enrolled nursing

any studied enrolled nursing??? just wondering if you did f/t or p/t study and how many hours a day you were at tafe!

Hehe, looking forward to reading this thread Jols!

hehe thought youd like!!

Have you looked at the tafe website? I hope we get some responses here, particularly if someone has done it PT at Box Hill - 1.5 years sounds good!

boxhill's the one im looking at.. doesnt state contact hours etc... maybe i'll email them

Yeah, I'd contact them Jols. I'm sure they'll give you all the info you want!

Full time is usually 4 days a week (Mon-Thurs) and part time 2 days a week. The day is similar to a school day, around 9-3 etc. If you talk to them about your current situation they can do their best to accommodate but generally, you have to get to TAFE for all 4 days, one way or another... basically, each day is made up of different subjects so you have to have done Monday's at some point, Tuesday's at some point, Wednesday's at some point and Thursday's at some point if that makes sense. If you want to just do mornings one term then afternoons for another that could possibly work but it really depends on how the particular TAFE structures the subjects in a day/week so the best thing to do is give them a call or go in for a chat -- they do try their best to make it work for you. At least, that is how it was at my local TAFE.

Hopefully someone with information more specific to your particular TAFE stops by soon!

Have you considered the program where you can be sponsered by a hospital/medical facility and study at the same time? therefore you get practical training to consolidate your theory AND you get paid. A lot of nursing homes do it and St Vincent's Private used to do it (not sure if they still do).

Good luck ladies!

MG

MG - wow that sounds like a good idea - do u know if that is done in Brissy at all???

not sure - but if you contact your Department of Human Services or similar, they should be able to tell you. I know the Govt in several States ran some programs to try and get people into the industry a few years back - not sure if it is still being done. Or contact the venues you would be interested in working at and ask if they have anything like it.

I am studying Div2 at the moment through chisholm in berwick - I am doing it part time (2 days a week) but full time is only 3 day but with twice the workload which i know i wouldnt be able to handle with my girls and the rest of my life going on.
My hours are wed 3pm to 7.30ish and fri 8am - 3pm and i am somehow managing to get my study done although there is a fair bit of homework to do!

Apprenticeships Plus do Div 2 as a traineeship. You get placed at an aged care facility (min 15 hrs per week) and go to school (Australian Catholic Uni in the city) for 1 full day per week (9-3.30). You get paid for work and for the day at school. The traineeship goes for 2 years and also includes medical endorsement. You also do placement in other areas (accute, psych etc).

Hope that helps - Good Luck!

Cindy that's great you're doing your Div2! How are you liking it? Are you hoping to do Div1 one day, or are you happy to leave it at Div2? Would love any feedback you have on the course, as well as how you're going doing it with two kids! Are you working at all ATM?

Thanks for that info Ubba. I like the idea of doing it as a traineeship, but I guess I would have to consider finances and family stuff. Can you request a cap on how many prac hours you do? Or can they make you do many more than 15? Being paid for being at school as well is pretty good, but I'm guessing it's not a great hourly rate :lol:. I'd always thought I would have to work at my current job PT while studying, which is okay, it pays pretty well. But it would obviously be better to work at what I'm learning, I think I learn better on the job anyway.

Hey there!
I am working - LOTS I manage a dental surgery 2 days a week AND i spend most of my weekends doing TUpperware parties. It is hard to get time to study but at the same time, i am loving the course so i make time for it.
I have the girls in child care one day a week which means that on that day (fridays) I finish between 1.30 - 3 so i go home and study for a few hours before i pick the girls up. And I am lucky that on the wednesdays (i start at 3pm) DP takes the day as his RDO and has the girls for the day but I usually leave home about lunch time and go into the library at school to get some more study done.
THe workload is pretty full on and i couldnt imagine doing it with the full time course load (double the subjects I am doing but with only 1 extra day) A big part of our course is lab sessions and also clinical placements, we are doing our first placement in a few weeks which will be great!

With regards to doing Div1 -I am not sure, I am still not sure what area of nursing I want to work in, the Div 2 course has the medications and IV endorsement in it now so that means we can do alot more than just cleaning people and making beds ! THey are employing more and more DIv2 nurses in hospitals - even in ICU these days so I am thinking that I will work a few years - TRY to work out where my heart lies and then perhaps go to uni and specialise... who knows - also Holms Glen tafe is starting a TAfe Div1 course which will be great - should keep the hecs debt to a minimum.

My course has cost me $1500 plus books so far and that will be it for this year - not sure if we have to pay more next year yet....

GOod luck with it all! THis is something that i have been putting off for years and mid year last year I just thought - I have to do it! I figured i would sit the entrance exam and just see if it was meant to be.... So excited to see I got in though!

whats with dental nurses turning nurses :think: :lol:
thanks for the rundown cindy! those hours seem pretty good, i was wondering how id go with the kids too.
boxhill's fees are around $10k for the courese, why is it so much cheaper at chisolm? berwick is too far for me to go. might go look at holmesglen too.
i wont to do div 1 nurseing and figured this was a good stepping stone.

ubba i dont think i could manage working, kids and study!

i did a div 2 traineeship :)

Janie- Trying to think back...... pretty sure the hourly rate is around $12 per hour which is really sucky, but you do get all your training - plus it is hands on clinical training as apposed to classroom theoretical training like at TAFE. You still go out on clinical placements, I just feel you learn more on the job.

As for the hours, the minimum you are required to do as per your training agreement is actually 30 hours per f/n (plus your day at school). It is up to you if you want to negotiate more hours.

st vincent's private is currently advertising div 2 traineeships. go to their website...

why not do RN's at uni? its only 3 years, you get a better pay and HECS covers the tuition. I skipped the EEN's but i have 2 friends doing it now and they go 3 days a week. they love it, the aged care placement is awful! and we ALL must do it whether RN or EEN but its worth it in the end. uni is only 3 days a week too. Anyway you can upgrade later on if you choose. GOOD LUCK!!! we need more of you!!!

When I started (just out of school) I got $7.76 an hr, I'll never forget that hehe. But we only had to do 15 hrs a week on the job so 2 shifts and 1 day a week school

St Vincents also do their schooling at ACU.

i just checked out the traineeship at st vincents and i cant apply anyway as i have a certificate 3 under my belt in dental nursing

What a shame AJ! Still, have a look at your options.

Those wanting to do Div 2 (EN) as a stepping stone to Div 1 (RN), keep in mind that not all universities give you a heap of credit. You will get some, but not a lot. At most you might be exempt from 1 or 2 subjects each year... so it doesn't cut that much of the 3 year degree... just keep that in mind. I am not in any way diminishing the Div2 EN course - just letting you know what I have observed.

i checked out the new course starting at holmesglen in august (div 1 nursing) and they offer entry into second year for EN but i know a lot dont!
wish it was easier, i seriously need a careers adviser like you have in school :P

All the talk of div 1 div2 - its really confusing! I decided to go for div1 mainly as i figured I would like to make sure i like nursing before i go and do div1 (if i decide to) and specialise in an area. I didn;t like the idea of racking up a hecs debt if at the end of it I didnt like it! JMO though.

I am lovin g the course though.

Oh and with the fees-im not sure why chisholm would be so different to box hill - are you sure that wasnt the international student rate?
I know chisholm was more expensive than Vicuni-i have a friend who started there the same time as i started mine.

I did mine through Apprenticeships Plus. We did schooling at ACU once a week and we got placed at a nursing home.

I also did my Meds course in 07 but they are actually doing a diploma now that has the Meds course in it.

I started my Div 1 last year and I only got 4 credits for my Div 2 and they dont give you anything for the meds course (this is at ACU)

Hehehe Kobes, did you have Laurel and Caroline? I am spewing that I left the course early - because I couldnt see past earning such a pitiful amount for 2 years when I was working JUST as hard as every other nurse in the facility. Now I am JUST a PCA and I am really upset with myself cause I still work just as hard as the other nurses but dont have the qualification...

I applied to get into Div 1 and Midwifery this year but was unsuccessful. I will just have to keep trying....

I had Laurel hhehehe she was ok. I powered through it only because I knew it was the only way to get to where I wanted to be :D

And dont say you are just a PCA, PCA's are awesome :)

I am doing div 2 at Vic uni and really enjoying the course although the school could be ALOT more ogranised. They have been really bad with timetable changes, teachers not knowing what we have already covered.... Its disappointing seeing as you pay good money to go there.

Overall though its been awesome and I cant wait to get out there and work.
Part time is certainly enough though 2 days a week schooling and 3 days work is just enough to still have time to myself.

Good luck with it all