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Do you love them?
How long have you had them?
I've heard good and bad about these, and the good seems to be from people who haven't had them for long, and the bad seems to be from people who've had them for 5+ years and they start to cark it....has anyone here had them long enough to experience any potential deterioration? (I hope no-one here does, by the way!)
Just trying to educate myself! :D
I have had them now for 2-2.5 years now and love them! I fit soo much in and also love the fact that I can do smaller loads and the dishes arent sitting there for a while getting caked over. They remove almost everything too and I dont bother to rinse a lot of things prior to putting them in the drawers as I think that is double handling.:) I will tho rinse things obvioulsy that have a lot of food left/cooked on them.
A girlfriend of mine has had hers around 3.5 years and no complaints there either.
Sammi just had to get her's fixed and has had it for 5 years +...was a pretty packet to from memory
F&P when working works well, when not costs a lot of money. FIL works on whitegoods for a living and avoids the brand. If you are going to get one check out an extended warranty.
The thing that put me off the dish drawers Nelle (and I, like you, had heard really good, and really bad about them;)), was that the interior is plastic. To me, when you're exposing plastic to really high temp water, over and over, it will eventually deteriorate. Once I knew that, there was no way I was getting them (and instead got a Bosch, which I love, stainless steel all the way baby LOL).
It is a hard decision, because those who have have newly acquired them love them, but those that have had them for a little while decide they're crap. Personally, I think a dishwasher should last at least 10 years (and I can't afford them more often that that!), so I decided to go for one that will (hopefully ;)) have a bit more longevity.
heh heh why do I keep answering your questions ;)
I had to get mine fixed as the heater coil fried and that in turn blew the control panel :( They don't always go hand in hand but for me it did unfortunately. It cost me over $300 to fix! It is over 5 years old and had a LOT of lovin' I think I do use the top drawer a lot more than the bottom one which may have had some bearing in it, but it could have been one of those things. The repair man said he does a lot of these, but the parts are reasonably priced compared to other brands. Something to consider I suppose.
Having said that I really do love it heaps and the best bit was that because the two drawers are separate I still could use the other drawer until it had to be taken away to be fixed. I put off calling to get it fixed for a few weeks till I could afford it.
I LOVE how I can put delicates on one cycle and at the same time put dirty greasy stuff on a heavy cycle in the other drawer. The cycles are a tad longer than other dishwasher too I think but you get used to that. Like going from a top loader washing machine to a front loader IYKWIM.
Thanks heaps you guys! Although I'm not sure that gives me too much direction! I need someone to make me dish drawers with metal insides...haha.
Nelle you can come sus mine out. The plastic is not deteriorating at all but it has discoloured a tad.
We have one. We've been in this house for almost 5 years, and it was here when we bought it, so it's more than 5 years old. I absolutely love it! Never had a problem with it.
You girls seriously have me torn. :rofl: I know what I want, but I don't want it if I have to keep paying for it. Your input is really helpful though, the more I know, the better!
It's a hard one Nelle!!! They sure are popular! It does sound as though you're really keen........;) Maybe you should just go for it!
Sam, sounds like you got really unlucky, what a bummer. How handy that you could still use the other drawer though! As for long cycles, my new dishwasher takes longer too, so maybe it's just the way alot of them are now, like top loaders?
I'll see how I go hey. We're going and having a look around today. We're going from me doing (or not, as the case may be) the dishes to having a dishwasher so I suspect I'll be happy with anything really.
And price will pay a factor obviously, I've seen some cheap prices here and there so I guess I'll just have to hunt.
And if I do get the dishdrawers and they play up, I can always come in here and whinge that you guys misled me. :p
You are going to LOVE having a dishwasher Nelle!!!!!!!!! Whatever it is!!!! Have fun looking :)
We have dish drawers that we love and have had them for about 2 years. We bought ours in the paper for $50 because the person that owned them first thought they had stopped working and had bought themselves a new dishwasher. We have had very few issues with them (it has been blocked a couple of times, but nothing DH hasn't been able to fix himself which was the problem with it when we bought it).
As for the insides being plastic (I assume that it is the washing arm), the reason that is is plastic is to stop things that touch it by accident during the wash cycle from melting. Our last dishwasher melted a couple of knife handles and plastic cups because the metal would heat up so much, the plastic is there to stop the melting.
I guess we got a nearly new $1500 dish drawer for $50 so it is a bit hard to complain about the 2 years we have got out of it so far. We thought if it lasted us 6 months we would have got more than our money's worth out of it ... but it is still going strong.
TG, the F&P dishdrawers that I saw in showrooms were actually ALL plastic inside, not just the arm. The racks and everything. But maybe they're not all like that???
I'm not sure - ours is obviously a few years old so they may have changed them.
Well. How do you guys go about fitting things in your F&P drawers? Because the girl pointed out that I'd probably struggle to fit some of my baking trays or muffin pans in there? Stockpots?
I sort of fell a bit in love with a Bosch with its own cutlery drawer at the very top...like the Mieles do, apparently.
And Sez, it might give you a giggle to know we had a chuckle when I was saying 'yeah but Sez says' :lol:.
Hahaha Nelle, yes I am chuckling away! You know, I actually thought I was really keen on getting a Miele, but when I checked them out, not so keen. Obviously they're made extremely well, but Bosch (and Asko for that matter) have better features I think. Good luck making a decision, it's hard!
dh stacks the dishwasher each night, so I have no idea how he fits everything in, but he manages to. If it's up to me to do the dishes, I wash the big ones. I'm not very good at stacking the dishwasher :lol:
Yeah there were lots that I liked, it's so hard to choose. The Asko was cool but I didn't see any white ones so didn't look too hard - the whole kitchen is white so that's what we're going for with the dishwasher. Same with the Blanco.
I was looking at the LG's (something I want is childlock and halfload) but one of the salespeople told me that the LG half load doesn't actually use less water, whereas the Blanco and Bosch half loads use just over half the water, so sort of more a true half load. I sort of like the idea of doing a half load around lunchtime to combat stuck on breakfast cereal. Who knows.
ETA: Lol Jodi, perhaps your dh has more Tetris experience? :p I often sing the Tetris music when we're packing the car at IKEA. No idea how I'm still alive.
Nelle, I'm 90% sure that Asko make white ones. Have a look online, if you're keen. They certainly did recently, my SIL has one (and loves it).
One thing that you may or may not be concerned about.......the Bosch is sooooo quiet. The salesman told me that, how the Bosch (and I think Asko is similar) machines are ultra quiet. I wasn't too bothered at the time, it certainly didn't sway my decision, but now that I have it I LOVE how quiet it is. Even DH is impressed, and told me I made a good choice ;). Love the childlock too, I think that was number 1 requirement on my list hehe. Oh, and I don't have a model with the cutlery drawer, but they sure look good, don't they!!!!
I only saw this thread today; hope I'm not too late!!
We have had a dishdrawer for 3 yrs, I have replaced the moter 3 times and the drainage pipe once.
I think the fact you can do small loads is good, but that's probably the only thing. The 'quick; cycle doesn't clean, and the 'normal'cycle takes 2 hours. (111 mins) And doesn't really clean all that well anyway, the dishes have a rough feel about them sometimes'.
I just got back from retravision today, I bought a bosch to replace it, as that was recomended by my dishwasher repair man. The drainage pipe has gone again and I don't want to fork out the $700.
Teh dishwasher guy says he replaces the motors in them all the time, as they burn out very quickly, I only have 1 child so we don't have THAT much washing either.
I wish I had of given up on it years ago!! :wall:
No you're not too late - in that, just so everyone can sleep well at night and have some closure, I got a Bosch.
The seller was that I have a lot of massive trays and other big things that I hate washing, so if I can fit the tall things in the dishwasher that would be fantastic.
And I got the model with the cutlery drawer :heartbeat: which is awesome.
We had been haggling a bit, going from store to store to get the best price, and then when we walked in the store we'd decided on, it was another $150 cheaper, on sale that day, because they had a few and were trying to move a few on! So pretty happy.