2 week old only gained 35g in 12 days - so stressed

I'm typing this while I feed so it will be kind if brief. Our dd was weighed on tuesday, she was 2 wks and 3 days, and the poor little thing has only gained 35g. I was devestated to say the least. We've been on an expressing mission since as well as breast feeding to see if she can gain something more by tom (Friday). My supply appears to be low as the most i've expressed is 75ml total but a few times it's been as low as 40, so 20ml from each breast. It's so disheartening. I'm taking fenugreek and feeding and expressing as much as possible in an attempt to boost my supply. I'm an emotional wreck though and so tired which I know won't be helping the situation. It's a vicious cycle.

Has anyone else had a slow growing bubs? Has anyone got some advice for me? I'm in desperate need of a confidence boost. I'm worrying about every tiny thing now - is her urine pale enough? Why isn't she pooing as much anymore? What if there is an underlying issue? What if my milk supply doesn't improve? And the list goes on!

Help!

Oh honey, massive hugs for you :hug:. I know this is a really stressful and upsetting time for you, so go easy on yourself. First things first, although it's not ideal, she did have a gain, not a loss! I have every confidence your supply WILL improve hun, given a little time and effort. It is not something that is going to happen by tomorrow morning!!! Your expressing efforts sound stellar to me, seriously. 70mls is a huge amount, simply huge.

Can you tell us about your DD's feeding patterns? How many feeds she would have in a 24 hour period? How long she feeds for? Does she have one or both breasts?

I would really, really recommend calling the ABA tonight hun 1800 mum2mum. You don't need to be a member to call, and I'm sure you will find the support invaluable. This needn't spell the end of breastfeeding for you guys, far from it!!! You can get through this, I'm sure :)

ETA I did have a slow-gaining bub, so I completely understand where you're coming from :hug:. As you can see we ended up breastfeeding for over two years!

Call the help line beautiful - they will reassure you more than anyone else can - sounds like you are doing just fine but talk to the ABA

Janie gave you some great advice. I had a really low weigh gaining DD too. She only averaged 100gm a fortnight and I was so stressed too. Turns out my girl is just a tiny tot and that is all she was going to do regardless. It sounds like you are doing an amazing job feeding/expressing. The amounts you are expressing are fantastic. I was lucky to be getting 40 -50 mls in total. It is so hard but try to enjoy feeding your little girl too. Why don't you have a nice bath together so you can relax and she can have a nice float and a beautiful feed. Or even spend the day in bed together with heaps and heaps of skin to skin contact. It would be beautiful for you both.
Keep us up to date darl and use the support and resources on here.

Hi, I can't remember the exact grams but I remember when the mchn visited me at home in the first few weeks she said my ds was not putting on enough weight and I had to express so I went out and bought a pump and spent the next few days an emotional and physical wreck trying to breastfeed and pump my grazed scabby nipples and he wouldnt take any expressed milk from a bottle I seriously cried almost non stop for days. Then my next visit which was only a matter of days he was weighed and had caught up! So I dont know if more milk had just come in or he had just started feeding better who knows but I think I was made to panic too soon. Sorry I cant be of more help I agree call the ABA they will give you some better advice, and just so you know it gets so much easier soon. I totally forgot about this period until I read your post. In the first couple of months once I stopped the expressing and started sleeping when he slept (day or night) I was alot happier. I'm also still b/feeding and he is nearly 2.

Hugs hun I know how you feel!
DS lost to much wg in hospital and then was slow to put on wg till about 8 months!!!!

I was expressing and also getting very small amounts, i found fenugreek upset my belly and also DS but other thing you can try are Blessed thisle and Alfalfa tabs I took both of these for about 8 months maybe more. I also got a script from GP for Domperidone which I took i total of about 200 tabs over a course of a few weeks.

Can your hear bub swallow milk? Is baby settled post feed? Does bub possit?

Keep up the good work. =ts hard work but you will get there! If I had listened to them telling me to FF I would be still BF at 14 months as I am and preg!!!

I had a similar thing happen where from leaving hospital C had lost 70g at 1 week 5 days and then the next weigh in the following week he had put on 540g!
I'm sus that it was a dodgy set of scales because that amount in a week is almost unbelievable. The MCHN was sus on them too and it was the same nurse who did both weigh ins.

How is her output? I'd be taking lots of notes about her nappies to keep tabs because if she's wetting and pooing lots then it is getting in there!

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Hi, I was hoping to hear back from you so I could see your answers, but my eyes are falling out of my head, so I'm going to have to go to bed, sorry!

So I'll just quickly say that it's really normal for babies at this stage to need to feed at least 8 times in 24 hours, even if they're not demanding it. In fact, it's often the babies that don't demand it that need the extra feeds! Once they have some extra milk in them, it kind of helps them to 'wake up' and start demanding food on their own. Rather than expressing, you could try offering some extra feeds, and see how that goes. Liviam's suggestion of spending a day in bed together is a brilliant one, and the first thing that really worked for me and my DS! Within 48 hours he was feeding much more effectively, and frequently, and therefore putting on more weight. You just feed her whenever she looks like she might want it, without looking at the clock and worrying about time. And inbetween you just lie around and read, watch tv, and REST!

So you could try feeding for approx. 20 minutes on one side, maybe changing her nappy, and then offering a similar amount of time on the other side. She may be less interested in the second side, that's okay. Still offer it to her and see how it goes. Making sure that you are offering her feeds at least 8 times in 24 hours. I think you'll be amazed at what a difference that can make.

To give you a real confidence boost, it sounds (with limited info) like your supply is not the issue - it's just getting the milk into your bubba, which is pretty easily remedied :).

ETA the others have made good points too about weighing practices. Sometimes things like a different set of scales, what your DD was wearing, if she'd just done a big poo, can all make a difference to weighing a baby. But it is important to see good weight gain in very young babies, so I think you're doing the right thing in looking for some support. I hope you're busy on the phone to the ABA ;).

I'll second the idea of offering extra feeds, whenever she opens her mouth! And staying in bed with your baby, skin to skin, sleeping together as much as possible for a few days. All you need to be doing right now is feeding your baby and letting your body rest and do what it needs to do. Also, allow her as much night feeding as she wants.

All the best!

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Also, allow her as much night feeding as she wants.

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I'll second that, for sure! I'd go so far as to encourage it, although it may go against the grain when you're so tired ;).

Taurean - just wanted to say that your expressing efforts are stellar... when DD was in hossie and I was on the express train at two weeks I was sometimes getting 40ml total if I was lucky but I just kept up the expressing ie more frequently and I found that with the pump I was using (medela swing) that I would get more on the stimulation cycle so sometimes I would just do that cycle two or three times.

What kind of pump are you using?

Also what TMTM said - when we got home on gate leave (cause DD had had a loss of 20grams and we had to go back to hossie on Monday ie two days) each time she was awake I would whack her on the boob and stroke her head (tip I picked up from hossie) if she started to fall asleep... for some reason it still makes them suckle

We are here for you hun :hug:

Taurean, I was in exactly the same situation as you with my DD. She continued to lose weight until she was about 11 days old then started to put it on and was 160g over her birth weight at 2 weeks 2 days. I was freaking out big time when she hadn't started to put weight on after 11 days and was trying to express and feed her that milk as well as offering the breast at least every 3 hrs (whilst being an emotional wreck and crying because I thought I was starving her) My midwife was happy with the 8+ wet nappies per day and loose yellow poos and suggested 3 hrly feeds even if she was asleep. DD went on to have some big weight gains each week after that (300, 450, 380 before it slowed to about 150-200g per week)
Try to to stress as hard as it is, and I hope that you have a good weigh in tomorrow

Wow, you girls are amazing! Thank you so much for so many beautiful words of encouragement and such great advice! I'm pumping again so this will be a bit brief but here are the answers to your questions

Izzy feeds between 3-4 hours. Sometimes it's two hourly hut generally closer to 4. I've been waking her when she over sleeps. She was doing lots of poos until Sunday and now she's down to 2-3 a day. That concerns me a bit. Im confident there are enough wet nappies though and they are often heavy - she's in sposies. She was taking about 45 mins to feed before we started this 'system'. She spent most of the time on one breast then finish on the other - max 10 mins in second breast before snoozing. She's very placid and content after a feed. She did have her night and day confused making her a little unsettled at night but she seems a lot better the past 3 nights. Not sure if it's because she's now getting more food though. She has quite a bit of awake time early morning and early evening but she us content and happy just studying her surroundings.

I spoke to the ABA today and she said just feed her as much as I can and not to restrict her time on the breast at all - health nurse had said 15 mins max the express then offer her ebm. That just wasn't working though. I like the normal feed and top up with ebm better. ABA also said not to focus too much on the amount I'm expressing as babies are much more efficient at getting the milk. Hmm, I really need to renember that!

I think I've just expressed 70ml which I guess is pretty good for this time of the day. Will offer her the breast now then top up with ebm if she's still hungry. I'll pop back in tom with an update too. And I love the skin on skin lazing around idea! That's our morning sorted out.

Thanks again girls. I do feel more positive now. We can do this!

Ps we are seeing a lac consultant on Saturday too. I have flat nipples which could be causing her grief. Have bought a nipple shield but have been a bit stressed to master it yet

Taurean, 70 mil after a long day is GREAT!! And her output sounds terrific. I hope this is just an issue of the scales being off or weighing her at different times of the day or something.

What your health nurse told you makes no sense - take the baby off the breast after 15min then try to stimulate production with a pump, which is less effective than a baby and then offer the milk out of a bottle? What the ABA person said was spot on - as much time at the breast as she wants. Four hours is a longish time to be going without feeds at that age, so I'd really be working on feeding more frequently than that or making sure she stays on the breast for as long as you can coax her to, even if that means changing her nappy to wake her again. But then i've had babies that once they've had enough, they've had enough and nothing will coax them back on again :)

Keep up the good work, and good on you for asking for advice and persevering. You're doing a wonderful job and your placid contented baby is proof of that.

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Wow, you girls are amazing! Thank you so much for so many beautiful words of encouragement and such great advice! I'm pumping again so this will be a bit brief but here are the answers to your questions

Izzy feeds between 3-4 hours. Sometimes it's two hourly hut generally closer to 4. I've been waking her when she over sleeps. She was doing lots of poos until Sunday and now she's down to 2-3 a day. That concerns me a bit. Im confident there are enough wet nappies though and they are often heavy - she's in sposies. She was taking about 45 mins to feed before we started this 'system'. She spent most of the time on one breast then finish on the other - max 10 mins in second breast before snoozing. She's very placid and content after a feed. She did have her night and day confused making her a little unsettled at night but she seems a lot better the past 3 nights. Not sure if it's because she's now getting more food though. She has quite a bit of awake time early morning and early evening but she us content and happy just studying her surroundings.

I spoke to the ABA today and she said just feed her as much as I can and not to restrict her time on the breast at all - health nurse had said 15 mins max the express then offer her ebm. That just wasn't working though. I like the normal feed and top up with ebm better. ABA also said not to focus too much on the amount I'm expressing as babies are much more efficient at getting the milk. Hmm, I really need to renember that!

I think I've just expressed 70ml which I guess is pretty good for this time of the day. Will offer her the breast now then top up with ebm if she's still hungry. I'll pop back in tom with an update too. And I love the skin on skin lazing around idea! That's our morning sorted out.

Thanks again girls. I do feel more positive now. We can do this!

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Your bubba sounds gorgeous :D.

My MCHN also suggested that regime (once things got really desperate for us), and it totally stuffed things up for us. Once I spent a few days just having DS on the boob almost all the time, things improved alot. So I would second what the ABA counsellor suggested to you, just lots and lots of feeding. TBH, I think that is more important ATM than top up feeds (JMO), because they can be detrimental to your supply. If your DD got to a stage of losing weight, less output, and being very unsettled after feeds, then top ups might well be required, but I think in your case that extra feeding will really, really help. Maybe for the next little bit you could make sure she doesn't go longer than 3 hours between feeds? And of course feed her as often as she wants!

I know it's very hard to trust your body when you've had a scare like this - but you can, you really can. You body is making oodles and oodles of milk Taurean :D. That is so fantastic! Trust your body that it can nourish your baby, remember that it grew her for 10 months ;). I know top ups make us feel more relaxed in the short term, but they really are a PITA. When you can breastfeed successfully without them, you will find such pleasure and relaxation in feeding your daughter. Remember that babies are designed to feed frequently, sometimes 2 hourly around the clock! Yes, it's tiring, but it's what they need, it's how they survive. I hope that once you see some good weight gain, you will be able to relax into trusting your body and breasts to do their thing. I really believe you can do it!!!

Good luck today, and please let us know how it goes :hug:. I feel positive that you will see some good results for your hard work, but please don't expect too much of yourself, or your DD. It's only been a few days, and sometimes it takes longer than that to see that things are improving. Often it's good to look at the bigger picture with babies weight gains - don't forget that ;).

You're getting great advice here, I'll just add my voice to the chorus.

70ml is heaps to express at once at this stage. I happen to have very good supply of milk, even an oversupply. In the first couple of weeks I couldn't express more than 20ml at a time (now I can get 150ml or even more sometimes). I would not be doubting your supply at all.

By the way little things like whether she was weighed before or immediately after a wee or a poo will make quite a difference in how much she weighs at that moment, so she could well have put on more weight than the measurements suggest.

In the first few days, while we were in hospital, DD had a bit of jaundice. So we had to feed her 3-hourly to try to clear that from her system. Some things we did to wake her up enough to feed were:

- don't let her sleep for too long without waking for a feed

- feed one breast, then change the nappy to wake her up, then offer the other breast

- express a bit of milk so there's a drop on your nipple, and try to get this into her mouth so she gets the taste of it and remembers there is milk to be had if she sucks

- stroke her head to wake her up, stroke other parts of her

- gently wipe her head with a cool wet cloth to wake her up (yeah, it seems mean, but it worked for us - I called it "bugging the baby into feeding more").

- If you are using the normal, front hold, tuck her bum in closer to you to get her to suck again with more enthusiasm. No idea why this works, but it helped us. It was a suggestion of the breastfeeding advice midwife in the hospital.

I hope your worries about this are over soon.

Great news! Izzy gained 40g in 3 days!!!! It's not huge but enough apparently and a very 'nice' gain. We are heading in the right direction again. I also managed to express 110ml on one sitting thus morning - 80ml out of one side! So my supply doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm so happy!!

All the advice you girls gave me was fantastic and the words of encouragement really gave me that confidence boost I needed. Thank you all so SO much

ps we had over an hour of skin on skin breastfeeding in bed this morning. It was beautiful and so good for both of us. We will be doing it more often. :)

Woohoo! That's awesome, keep up the great work!

dont stress! my boy lost half a kilo in his first few days and i fed as much as possible but it took ages for my milk to come in and he has only just reached his birth weight at 3 weeks of age and this is with formula aswell!!

Thanks again girls. So much great advice and wonderful support.

Just a quick update...we saw the lac consultant yesterday and she was brilliant. Izzy had gained another 50g in two days - yay! It's a slow gain but at least she's gaining. Hopefully she will just pork it on now!

Lac consultant said my supply seems pretty good so I'll continue to take the fenugreek but I'm often pumping 90ml or more now. Yay :clap: Attachment wasn't too bad but she has shown me another method which seems to work well. The two things she did find wrong were that Izzy is a lazy feeder and we both have thrush - boohoo!!!

Izzy generally nods off well before she is finished her feed and just comfort sucks. The LC said that her lack of weight gain is most likely the cause - she is too tired to work for her food, the poor little girl! It should improve once she puts on a bit more weight as she'll have more energy. So we're feeding 10-15 mins max on each side then I offer her 50ml or more of EBM then I express for about 20 mins and save that for the next top up. It seems to be working well, just a bit exhuasting.

As for the thrush, well lets just say it's damn painful! I'm using Daktarin on my nipples and Nilstat drops for Izzy. I've posted in the breastfeeding forum to see if anyone else has some advice. I'm going to try and get into the gp tomorrow too.

I am determined, we will get there..

Woohoo on Izzy's weight gain babe!!! Boohoo for thrush though, hopefully it clears up soon for you both!

Just another quick update....

Although i've been in a lot of pain with thrush and staph in my breasts, it looks like all my hard work has paid off. Isobel was weighed on Friday and she had gained 280gm in a week!!!! We are so thrilled!

We plan on continuing with our current routin for another week when we need to take the hired breast pump back then I will see how Izzy goes without the EBM top ups after every feed. I will slowly drop the EBM bottles this week so hopefully she'll learn to take more from the breast and not just expect the top up, IYKWIM.

Cross your fingers for us. I desperately want to continue breastfeeding. Let's hope little Izzy has now got the strength she needs to live off her mummy's boobs :)

Woohoo Taurean! That's awesome hun, well done :)

It's sounding fantastic hun, good for you! Have faith in your body and your baby that they can do this together! Feel positive that you can start slowly dropping the comp feeds NOW :). You could try doing it one at a time, or reduce the amount in each comp feed until she has none.

I will warn you that the next few days or week may feel a little hairy ;), you may feel unsure at times if she has had 'enough', and want to give her a comp (when you were planning not to). But if she has had a good feed at the breast, and she isn't too distressed, then give her a big cuddle, or pop her in the sling. If she seems to be looking for more say, 20 minutes later, then pop her back on the breast. Once your DD, and your breasts, realise that this is how it's going to be happening from now, things will settle down and become easier. A good way of getting around this (potentially tricky) time is to spend as much time in bed with your DD as possible, just laying around and feeding her LOTS. It will seem less stressful this way :).

Of course, it may all go so well and seem easy, and I really hope that's the case for you. But if not, try not to stress, just hang on in there and know that things will get better soon - you can do this!!! You've done a wonderful job so far :D.

Well done Taurean. That sounds like things are going much better.

Thanks girls! I think we are getting somewhere. I will keep thinking positive (boy that is hard at times!) and hopefully our breastfeeding journey will only get better and better.

Janie - you have so much wonderful advice! Thank you so much. I only decided today that Izzy and I are having a much needed bonding/pj day so that is the plan for tomorrow. I've made no plans with anyone and will knock back any invites or visitors. We are just going to spend some quality time together in bed. :)

I hope my little journey is inspirational for other new mums experiencing feeding and weight issues. There has been a lot of good advice from all the girls too.

Yes, "establishing" bresatfeeding when you feel you have to get certain things done/ready, for visitors - and inconsistent advice from hosp/ childnurse, can really get in the way of what you REALLY need, which is plenty of alone time with your baby. Most of my visitors didn't understand/respect breastfeeding, saw it more of an interruption of their visit.

having a wet flannel handy to rouse your bub, changing nappy halfway thru the feed, another thing we used, was to tickle the underside of baby's chin/neck, to rouse her to drink more.

i'm so glad things are going in the right direction for you, bf-ing didn't come easy to us either, but i'm very glad i persevered, many times it would have been easy to give up.

i hope you have the aba number on your fridge.
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congrats, you're doing a terrific job.

how are you going Taurean?

have you gotten your bonding time?
has the staph/thrush healed up now?

how are you feeling?

hoping it's goign well for you and your lovely Isobel.

i believe your thread WILL inspire other mums going thru the same/similar thing to you. so many mums get the wind put up them, after a CYH nurse does the weighing and gets out the charts.:rolleyes:

Would love to hear how you're going hun!

Hi Girls!

I'm still here and yes, still breastfeeding. It has been so tough though and I came very close to giving up last week. My lovely lac consultant saw us again on Saturday though and has given us hope again.

So what has happened? After Izzy's good weight gain, I decided (a little prematurely) to try to return to mostly breastfeeding with just a couple of top ups of EBM or formula. I thought things were going well beside two very unsettled days during that week which had us at the doctors where the diagnosed her with colic. As it turns out, she was actually just hungry - I was basically starving her again. I didn't find out until the Friday though when my LC phoned me and asked me to get Izzy weighed that day. She suspected the unsettled days were due to lack of supply and not colic. Turns out she was right. Izzy had only gained 100gm that week so we were back on the expressing mission again and almost instantly we saw a positive change in our little girl. I was so sad to be back to pumping around the clock again but glad she probably didn't have colic.

I got into the right frame of mind at first and just took it all in my stride. The thrush was still lingering altough I had taken 3 Diflucan tablets at instructed by my LC. My LC suggested I get onto Motillium to increase my supply and also get the GP to check my nipples again while I was at the doctors. The GP did suspect it was thrush and told me to start using the Daktarin cream again and continue treating Izzy with Nilstat. Bugger, more medication! At least I had the Motillium so my supply would start to increase - hopefully. That was on Monday.

By Thursday I had lost the plot. I was so depressed and my boobs were so sore. The thrush pain had gotten worse and I stopped breastfeeding Izzy and fed her EBM and formula. I just couldn't handle the thought of her little mouth around my nipples - OUCHIES! I had a big chat to my sister about switching to formula fulltime and she was so supportive and made me feel good about the decision. All the pumping, watching the clock and pain was causing me so much stress that I wasn't able to sit back and enjoy our little girl who was changing every day, every hour. I had a big cry to my mum and felt like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. I had given myself a week to improve then I was throwing the towel in. I phoned my LC to tell her what was happening. She begged me to hang in there and booked me in to see her on Saturday.

Saturday came around and I was feeling pretty good as I had been bottle feeding Izzy for 2.5 days. My boobs had enjoyed their much needed break! Kate (my LC) visited us at midday and got straight into it. Firstly Izzy was weighed and she had put on a whopping 400gm in a week!! We were stunned! All the hard work had paid off! Next she checked us both for thrush and was certain we were clear although I was still experiencing the same pain. That had us stumped. I fed Izzy and Kate weighed her after each feed. She was finally sucking well (and attaching beautifully - yay!) and got quite a decent amount of milk from each side (the weigh in before and after each side confirmed that). We were all thrilled. Kate said to up the dose of Motillium and to do away with the pump and just BF and if necessary, top up with formula. No more clock watching either - demand feed and let her sleep - no more waking her for feeds! I was beside myself with happiness but still the pain was getting to me. Kate took another look at my nipples after the feed and spotted the culprit - the tips of my nipples were white. It dawned on her immediately - I have vasospasm in my nipples. It basically means the circulation is cut off to my nipples which causes all the pain. The symptoms are identical to thrush in the breast.

Finally we had some answers and a relaxed plan going forward. There is medication for vasospasm which I'm going to get this week. The pain in horrible so I'm wrapped to know I can take something to fix it.

So that is where we are at. We are breastfeeding and topping up where necessary with formula but my supply is definitely increasing (I have shot Izzy with breast milk several times now and I was leaking AFTER a feed this evening!) so things are a lot more relaxed. I'm so pleased! We just need the other tablets and we should be on the road to recovery. Yerhar!

I'll be sure to let you all know how we go with the other meds. Fingers crossed they work!

Thanks again for your support girls. It has helped us so much

Well done darl. You and Izzy both deserve the biggest pat on the back for hanging in there. What an awesome weight gain. So glad to hear that you and your LC have sorted out the pain. Sounds like everything is on the improve and youa nd Izzy will now go on and have a fantastic breatfeeding relationship. CONGRATULATIONS!!! You worked through the hard yards and now you both get to reap the rewards.

:hug: hun. You sure have had a rough start! I really admire your determination though - you are doing such a fantastic job hun. I'm really glad that your supply is doing so much better now, and that you know what's causing your pain. Hopefully the meds will help. Warmth, before and after a feed, can help also, so might be worth a try. All the best hun! You have done such a fantastic job to get this far, I hope it's easier from here on in.

Hi Girls

Not sure if anyone is interested but thought I'd give another update as I'm so happy because we are finally breastfeeding PAIN FREE!!! :dance:

It all came together about a week ago, just after DD turned 7 weeks old. The Nefedipine for the vasospasm kicked in as did the Motillium for my supply so I now have plenty of milk and my nipples no longer hurt. DD is attaching beautifully now (most of the time, anyway) and starting to feed a little faster. I don't mind if she takes a while though as I now know the more she sucks, the more milk I make :D

DD has been very unsettled during the day since about week 5 and I thought it was supply issues but we are pretty sure it's silent reflux and she started on Zoton for it yesterday. Amazingly, she slept for just over 9 hours straight last night but maybe it was just a coincidence. She has been really hard to settle all day again today so I'm glad we've also booked a day-stay at Ngala, the early parenting service here in Perth. Hopefully we'll learn some valuable tricks and be able to get our little girl to sleep more often during the day.

So, it does seem like our breast feeding issue are pretty much a thing of the past and now we just need to get the reflux and settling issues sorted and we'll be one very happy little family. I'm proof that you can get past all the breastfeeding issues with determination and support ;)

PS: Izzy has had a couple of gains of 300gms in a week now! She was 4.3kg last week - 8 weeks old. That was just over a 300g gain in 9 days. Woohoo!

Well done and congratulations to the both of you:clap:

OMG, what enormous weight gains!!!! I'm tipping that you won't be needing that Motilium for long ;). Well done to you both, you must be soooo pleased that you persisted Taurean :D

That is so good to hear hun. What a great team you and Izzy make!

That's fantastic!!! You should be really proud of yourself.

Re the settling, while I was waiting for a phone consult with the Queen Elizabeth Centre (a six week waiting list just for a phone consult!) for my amazing sleepless baby who was waking every two hours for a feed and not sleeping during the day, I downloaded their podcasts. And I never even needed the consult after that. I tried their techniques and they are brilliant. Tom only wakes once a night now, and has two good sleeps most days. He also has reflux, by the way.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link, but if you google queen elizabeth centre, noble park, you'll find their site and their podcasts.

All the best!

Congratulations - have been following your story as I'm going through similar issues regarding supply, weight gains and sucking. You are just a little bit ahead of me - Sam turned 7 weeks on Tuesday just gone so hopefully we won't be too far behind you. Its so great to hear the stories of it working out makes you just try that little bit harder again. Well done to the both of you :clap:

Glad to hear how great things are going for you :D

that's fantastic news! :dance: