Nice or Nasty?

Sorry if this is a bit long but trying to explain myself.

I have always believed there is more to life/earth than just US, i have dreamt people are PG before and it has been true, i have seen relatives in dreams and at time IRL that are no longer with us.
I have a strong connection to my brother and my great grandmother than have both passed and am not SCARED of seeing things, this said the last couple of weeks i have had an uneasy feeling:

New Years eve we had family over, my SIL's husband thought he 'saw' something in our outside room where he and the kids were going to be staying, he let the kids sleep in there for a bit but they ended up going home, he refused to stay @ my Mil's birthday which was held here.
I didn't think much of it and wasn't scared if there was/is something here, if anyone would see it surely it would be me right?

So a month or two back DD and i went out for the day, when i got home all the doors in the house were shut, i figured DP's cousin must have come and the kids had shut the doors. Was a little spooky but nothing to worry about.
DP's cousins DP came that arvo and i asked if they had been in the house, he said no.
He borrowed our trailer and said he would be back in about 20min.. no probs i played with DD on the tramp outside, when he got back he asked if i had shut the gate when he left, i said no.. for one it's a 1/2 a km to our fence as we are on 10 acres and the gate has been latched open since we moved in in October last yr... we both thought this was strange as my doors had been shut and now the gate when no cars had been in or out...

This didn't phase me and didn't make a deal out of it as DP thinks i am nuts.. hehe
Then DP went out with friends one night, i left the kitchen light on and watched movies in our room, every now and then i thought it felt like someone had walked past the bedroom door, a slight flicker in the shadow from the kitchen lights, to be honest i figured if there was SOMETHING here it was just checking that DD and i were ok in the house, it hadn't done anything and wasn't coming in to see me.

I have lived by myself since i was 18, i am used to being alone at night so when DP was working late for about a week it didn't worry me at all, UNTIL...

DD was playing at the window at about 6:30 while i cooked tea, she normally talks to the dogs and i figured thats what she was doing having a giggle until i looked out the kitchen window and the dogs were there... i thought i better go see what she's up to.. as i walked in i could have sworn i saw someone move away from the window on the outside... all of a sudden the dogs went NUTS... i checked outside and there as NO-ONE and we can see pretty much the whole property so if there was someone there i would see them.
DD stopped chatting at the window which had me a little spooked, for the rest of the night i had this strange feeling i was being watched from outside, it was by no means the calm 'someone is checking up one me' feeling i had had previously.
That night i took some sraps out for the dogs and could have sworn someone spoke, i checked towards the shed and there were no lights. The dogs were doing laps of the house and sticking very close now to any window or door DD was at.

I have had this feeling a couple of times now, even when DP went out last week, i feel it is outside and is not coming in but it really is starting to give me the creeps.
We NEVER lock the doors in the house but i am thinking of locking them ALL, i don't leave outside lights and i NEVER shut our curtains...

Any ideas on what this might be, i think if it was an actual person they would have had their chance a million times to get into our house with or without us in it.. i am so not sure but that calm feeling is gone... if it is a ghost i want the happy protective one back!

sorry it's so long.

I think you need to ask them what it is that they want babe.

Yeah the prob is other than that quick flash i thought was a person when DD was at the window i haven't seen anything, i have tried talking out loud but it's still there.

Hmm maybe when DP is not around i will go to all the doors and windows and when i get that being watched feeling i might just sit and have a chat... lol

The odd thin is the nice friendly being cared for feeling was INSIDE the house and i knew it was inside, this other feeling is very much a can't get in but i'm being watched feeling.
I don't think it's the same thing, well unless we have done something to p it off but other than moving plans we haven't done anything to this house.

Hmmmmm any other ideas are greatly appreciated, maybe it's my PG hormones tricking me?

I think its a different visitor.

Have you got a feeling on the sex of the visitor? Have you seen anything, shadow or anything? is there something new in the house or outside the house?

We had a man in a fedora hat who I picked up in Kew, he came with us to Dh family home but he never came inside and would "walk" past our windows. He always frightened me but he disappeared around the time we had probs with my pregnancy with Nikita (same as most of our other activity in the house)

Maybe one of the other girls might know some protective methods??

Nae x

I have a feeling the outside one is a man.. the figure i saw move away from the window was definitely a man, at first i thought it might have been my reflection (i'm quite tall and broad) which often shocks me... lol but no there was definitely a man at the window.

The inside one i am not sure, i get the feeling of someone older just checking up on us, very calm, not intrusive just wanted to make sure we were ok.

Nothing new inside or outside that i can think of, we are planning DD's 1st birthday which is going to have a lot of guests so maybe this person is getting annoyed at the intrusion?
but we had people for MIL's 60th and i didn't get an odd feeling.

Could have also been maybe this person/thing felt ok watching us while DP was working lates? When he has been home at a normal time the feeling is not there?

Maybe i have an admirer... lol

Have you tried smudging? That can clear negative energy. I usually do it when i move into a house - not sure if it works outside the house, but you could circle the house.

I've googled stuff on smudging and ghosts:
How To Get Rid Of Ghosts
Smudge a House to Get Rid of Ghosts - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com
Ghosts 101: Haunting First Aid, How to Reduce the Scariness/Malevolence
Smudging/ Burning Sage and GOOD spirits - Ghosts - Supernatural Message Boards
smudging ? Spiritual Jewelry & Personal Development Tools

They seem to indicate the ghost needs to move on before smudging, or they just come back.

btw - are you 100% sure it's not some local weirdo hanging around? Don't want to freak you out, just concerned.

tashybabe - thanks will def look at those...
Definitely not a local weirdo, my dogs would have attacked anyone STRANGE within a 2 foot radius of DD as they are very protective (not that they bite ppl but you know what i mean) and they bark the 2nd there is a stranger around, so no-one could actually get to my door without me knowing about it, the dogs were happy until whatever i saw did a runner... lol
Also i ran straight to the window and i can see everywhere so if it was an actual person i would have seen them trying to get away.

Well DP has taken DD to bunnings so gonna start tea, see if anyone comes to visit me while i'm home alone... :p

only just came across this post...how is it going now?

i have to say that i am a little concerned by this one. and like Nae my feeling is that this is a different person. i guess my main concern is from what you have mentioned with your feeling of uneasiness and also, i never really like the ones that watch. honest, i do think it's rude and usually let them know: not in a 'get your freak on and be angry' way, but just a common courtesy 'we all share this space so deal with it' way ITMS. had this one in a house our friends lived in in Fiji. the house over time got a 'heavy' feeling and i would feel rather constrained when visiting as though we were intruding. turns out the person was unusually attached to my friend and found others that were around to be a hassle and interference (this included her DH and DD). Increasingly she (was a young child of about 12ish years i could gauge) became a little more confident in dealing out uncomfortable feelings...and this DID coincide with my friend and her family deciding to move out. so maybe the increase in activity from your visitor has a correlation with plans for you guys to move? maybe this person has been there the whole time (i'm figuring that they have a connection to your DD?) and is slightly concerned about said moves. either way, i think they are overstepping the boundaries (no pun intended :lol:).

keep your ears and eyes out and trust yourself (and your furbabies!), if it does get too uncomfortable at times, i would take yourself and DD out for a bit (also it might be worth checking out some strategies for closing off DD from the visitor): i think the closing of the gates and doors is going too far in its disapproval (of whatever it is unhappy about ITMS).

P.S. it's a good thing that your DH is able to get the visitor to leave, maybe channel some of his energy through the house for when he is not there?

A bit of an update, funny you chose yesterday to write Cassius2 as i was just thinking i really need to update on here.

So i haven't had much time here without DP of a night as he hasn't been working that late and whoever is watching me doesn't like when he is around so there hasn't been much action BUT:

The last time i wrote DP had taken DD to bunnings, i was cooking tea and just had this odd feeling someone was near the lounge, the dogs weren't pacing but they weren't just kicking back relaxing like normal.
I didn't look at the doors when i walked in, just went and sat on the couch and turned the TV off, i felt as if someone was watching me so i just sat and had a bit of a conversation with them.
I told them it made me uncomfortable to be watched all the time and it wasn't polite, if they needed something or wanted to watch over us i would prefer they either came out and showed me what they needed or they watched from a distance.
I told them to stay away from DD and to let the friendly back to watch over her if thats what the problem was.
I got no response, no movement nothing but felt the person had gone and then the dogs were berserk! not 2min later DP pulled in the drive.

Every now and then when i'm tidying of a night i get the feeling someone is outside but they are not close to the house and they are not trying to get in.
Then the other night i felt friendly back in the house, i had to get up to DD in the middle of the night and nearly tripped on something, i was cursing the whole way to her room but then just felt a sudden CALM, it was odd.

I have a few theories i have come up with about my 'watcher' as i have nicknamed him.

* DD was born at home and i think there may be a strong connection with this house.
Please feel free to read my birth story for more insight http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/foru...ome-birth.html
* I think thats why it has a strong feeling toward DD & I and NOT DP
* DD turned 1 nearly 2 weeks ago and we had A LOT going on
* We started the plans to build etc

I think maybe the connection with myself and DD had the watcher a little upset, maybe now as some things have stalled with the building process and as DD is now 1 and still here it has calmed...

What do you guys think?
Sorry if this makes NO sense what so ever... lol

That makes sense to me. If the watcher was there when you gave birth to your daughter alone in the house, then I imagine he/she/it might feel proprietary towards you both. A bit like dogs get - all protective and territorial. Rather than a calm protectiveness though, the watcher may just feel territorial. It may be scared you'll leave him/her/it. It's good you expressed your boundaries and the watcher is keeping away.

Do you get a sense of the gender? Could it be another woman who wants to stay close to the baby?

Birth certainly creates an enormous amount of psychic energy and babies are a connection between the earth world and the spirit world - they are new fresh from spirit. That's why I believe small children when they do things like predict the gender of unborn children - I think they really do know.

tashybabe - the watcher is a man, i saw him one night at the window playing with DD, scared the crap out of me and he took off.

The friendly one i have NEVER seen only felt watching over us and checking up on us, i think this may be a woman now though, the more i think of it.

I am hoping the watcher has realised the boundaries, i don't mind if he is there or if he wants something but either let me know what it is or **** off. :doh:
Hopefully things stay nice and calm, am not sure how our visitors will react when #2 comes along, hope there is no jealousy from them rather than DD!

Well he is watching from a distance at the moment so hope it stays that way, it's still an eery (sp?) creepy feeling but it's better than feeling it at every window and seeing him play with DD.

Hows verything going with the watcher lately hun? It has been interesting readng your post. Hows little Ava going?

Was up a bit last night with my teeth and i had a feeling he was outside but not making himself seen, i think he had gotten the point! YAY!

Ava is ok, waking a bit at night and seems 'lost' in her cot tried a night light last night but no difference, thinking it might be her teeth.. poor girl.
She falls asleep in my arms but the 2nd she is down she wakes again. HMMMM
Also wondering if it coincides with when i add more milk to her bottle instead of water.
We had 3 really good nights, slept right through, not even a dummy run now back to 2 bad ones!

hmm that IS interesting! do you think that they are a pair? (like the watcher and the calming one?). seems that they might be connected somehow?

...if she is cracking it with all sleeps just check that it aint an ear infection...we got busted a few weeks back with DD...no temp or anything, the only symptom was crappy night sleep and grumpiness :o ...just a thought... :)

Avasmum

i just read your birth story all i can say is a big WOW that was great reading ...

Im so glad you and Ava were ok and that everything went smoothly as in a breach foot first birth can be....

Getting back to your friendly ghost: mmm very interesting i love these stories and i have weird things happen to me as well

cheers bubno.3

Cassius2 - i am not sure if they are connected, since i had my chat with 'the watcher' he seems to have backed right off, i can feel him there and it's still a little creepy but it's from a distance, no more playing with Ava at the window.. thank god!
Since he has moved away i feel 'friendly' back in the house, only ever at night and i think it's a lady and she doesn't want to be seen, she doesn't make herself known to me and keeps her distance but i feel at peace.

I have this strange feeling that 'the watcher' is not ALLOWED in the house, maybe this is why he seemed to determined to watch us, maybe they were a couple or separated couple or something she got the house, he didn't but he feels connected to it and possibly to myself and DD with her birth?

maybe i am just making crazy things up in my PG brain... lol

Re: Ava it mainly seems to be at night, she doesn't seem to have an issue with day sleeps, once or twice a week she might do short sleeps but otherwise it's normally 1 long one for 1-2hrs or 2 shorter ones for about an hour each, if not longer.
I think one of her teeth is nearly through so just hoping it's that!

bubno.3 - thanks very much, am hoping #2 doesn't want to make the same kind of entrance as her sister!
Yeah i am always interested in this kind of stuff, and have SEEN ghosts before but this 'pair' intrigue me... what is there interest in me or DD? and why no interest in DP?

Avasmum i just pm you

Interesting. :think: You said you feel that that outside watcher is male... do you have a feeling of what culture he might come from? I sensed something quite specific from reading your posts... and if so you might be able to make the sometimes negative energy from Mr Outside if you consider his cultural perspective? You also might be able to engage the help of people of their culture (if you think they are connected) to "move on" in the ultimate sense? They are both hanging around because something is unresolved... it's not really a choice... I suspect that it would be better for everyone if they could get some help to "pass" properly. I'm going to read your birthstory now :)

Bathsheba - i am not 100% on culture at all, i just saw a man (although he was in a hurry for me not to see him).
I would be happy to HELP them move on if that's what they want, he has definitely distanced himself since our one sided chat and i offered that he tell me or show me what he need but he choose to keep his distance.
Re: the friendly i am not sure on her, she seems very peaceful and does not want to be seen, she just wants to check up on us and make sure we are ok... well thats my feeling anyway.

Did you get a chance to read my birth story? Did it give you any more insight into my visitors?

Bit of an update as i can't remember it i mentioned this, last week or the week before i think we went out for the morning, i came home and did some cleaning while A was at marks aunts, went back and picked her up and when i came home the 2 sliding doors in the lounge room were LOCKED.

The odd thing was when i left i remember shutting the fly screen and NOT the glass door, when i went to open it (expecting it would open) i smacked straight into it! WTF!
Now it was ONLY the two doors to OUTSIDE in the lounge.
DP thinks i'm insane and imaging things!

My theory is that as we don't lock the doors (never have only have a key to the kitchen door) maybe someone was coming near the house, we weren't home and 'the friendly' decided to make sure they couldn't get in.. then forgot to unlock for me to get back in?

So am i going nuts? told DP i want to start locking the doors when we are out, he says don't be stupid BUT some days last week when i was going to get the mail i saw a car at the top of the drive, we live on a mainish road and often people pull over if they are trying to find something etc.
By the time i got to the top of the driveway (on 10 acres) the car had pulled away, a day or so later i noticed what i thought was a similar car in the same spot as i got back near the house, saw it across the paddock and it wasn't there when i checked the mail.
SO DP was home alone on the w/end as i went away, he said at about 11pm he noticed something out the corner of his eye (we have the shutters down on the front of the house), then a car pulled up in the drive with it's lights on the side door (glass sliding), DP thought might be his aunty or something so got up and walked outside and then the car just took off back up the driveway (very long driveway)... WTF?
He didn't see the car etc so when i check the mail and stuff this week will be keeping an eye out....

Am i going insane? Should i start locking the house, we have NEVER had anyone come in here, maybe that person came last time and my 'visitors' kept them out?

Hmmm i think i'm going NUTS! lol

i'd be locking up hun - even if your friendly wasn't the one to lock them last time, it's a bit suspect that a car has been coming and going like that. your driveway is by no means a short one - so for them to come up there, there has to be something going on...

if it WAS the friendly locking up to keep them out - good on her!

I am hoping it was her... hmm maybe my BP's were coming to be delivered and she locked the delivery guy out... lol no BP's yet!

Might start locking up, need to get a key cut for DP... worst part is it's for the kitchen door, the 1 door that sticks and is a pain in the butt to open!
Don't have keys for the others.

Heed BG's and your "Friendlies" advice darl! That sounds concerning. It reminds me of what happened to my mum. She always used to fret about me living in Fitzroy (a seedy part of inner Melbourne) she kept saying how much crime there was etc. Not long after one of her lectures HER house was broken into... or I should say "walked into". She lived near a tiny community of a few hundred people on a farmlet of her own.... her nearest neighbour was about 2 km away. So she was quite isolated but she thought she was safer out there than i was. She never locked up either. I'm not trying to scare you... just share a similar story. She kept dogs after that which helped a lot.

I read your birthstory too... I jad forgotteon but I'd read it soon after you posted it. Amazing and really well written. It does give a little insight as to why the woman "Friendly" might feel drawn to protect you. I still think that both spirits should be helped to move on... but of course that's up to you to pursue. Makes very interesting reading in the meantime :)

yeah it's a pain - but you don't want to have people coming in uninvited...

Yeah might start locking up i think... especially as DP's cousin is having a dam built soon and we will likely have tradies etc coming and going!

I would love to help them move on, really not 100% sure where to start.
Need to look at some more info i guess!

I don't mind if they want to stay but it's got to be whats best for all.

Do you think you are feeling attached to them? They can be hard to let go... it can be quite an ambivalent relationship in that you feel a bit nervous about them... but are drawn never-the-less. It's hard to explain. I don't want to make this about me or imply that you have a problem... but i have been through quite a severe addiction to ouiji boards. The spirit world can be quite charismatic.

Not so much attached to them as USED to them, i guess at the start i got used to the friendly checking up on us, she has never made me nervous.
The 'watcher' on the other hand took some time to get used to, i think i am just used to the fact they are there and not at all worried about their intentions anymore.

Funny thing is i LOVE the show the ghost whisperer... lol and i share the same birthday with Jennifer Love Hewitt you'd think i'd be trying everything to help them cross over.. :redface:

Not sure where to start and hard to do anything as DP thinks i'm nuts as it is. :doh:

Yep, attached wasn't the right word... I agree that it can be easy to get used to something like this. I don't want to sound like I'm trying to tell you what do to or anything... but maybe keep in mind that it might seem harmless enough to be used to something like this... but that it could over time become something more. Their familiarity could slowly change into a kind of discomfort at the idea of them not being there anymore, especially the woman. Think of things from her perspective: do you think she would prefer that you liked having her around? How would she feel if you basically rejected her? How much i wonder does she need you? I'm just wondering if something that start out as a simple acknowledgement of her presence could grow.

I don't watch the Ghost Whisperer... well, maybe a few half programs when my DD was into it... but to me it would be an unnatural situation for her to become such a big part of your life that life didn't feel "right" if she was gone. KWIM? It's a slippery slope between telling yourself: "oh, she's just around... I don't mind... hmm, what has she been up to today... where is she?... is she still around?... I miss her". They can weave themselves into lives more deeply than you might think.... not saying that she has negative intentions. I'm sure she doesn't at all. Just keep an arms length yeah? :hug:

I promise i will keep them at arms length, to be honest don't think much about them until i sense they are there, the friendly only ever seems to be around when DP is not home for the night... or possibly if it was her locking someone out but i wasn't home so not sure.