Arghhh when is this "phase" going to end??

Ok so Miss M is 14 months old, and is having a problem at night - she wakes up at around 11.00ish (or whenever we make it into bed for the night) and then will NOT go back to sleep until around 2, 2.30. She makes it so difficult to get mad at her, cos she's so happy - and just wants to play!!!!! But its driving me and DH mental because we just want sleep!!! So far its 5 nights and counting of crappy sleep.

She has a nap during the day for anywhere between 1.5 - 3 hours, and then will go to bed either at 7 (falls asleep on the bottle) or goes to bed at 8.30. It doesn't seem to matter if she has had 1.5 or 3 hours sleep during the day - she will still want to party at night.

Our day usually starts at 5.30 when DS wakes up anyway - but he is in our bed from around midnight anyway. So between her partying on next to us, and him kicking the crap out of us, my SPD, getting up to pee at night - I'm on about 1.5 - 2 hours sleep - at the most.

And I'm tired :cry: I don't think it would be that bad if I had already had the baby, I could disappear into another room with that bub, and leave Miss M with DH so we would both have crappy nights sleep still.. haha... but since I'm in pain every night and it hurts to roll over, but hurts to stay in the one spot, I'm best to stay in the nice king size bed cos otherwise if I stayed on the couch I would NEVER be able to move the next morning.

Arghhhh - I don't know if anyone will have any advice or anything, she's just needs to STAY ASLEEP!!!!!!

Vent over. Time to go be a zombie again.

awww :hugs: maybe you and i and our pains need a nice river cruise with some nice tropical drinks and put our feet up and have a nice massage.

Your doing it it tough i couldn't cope on that little sleep, i complain if woken up at night eeekkk as i dont fall back to sleep. Josiah is still in our room at night but not during day we are weening him. but normally ds whom is 4 wakes everyone up in the morning, Ild trade him if ya want. Josiah wake sup about twice for a dummie insert.

he opens dd's doors as they have a shared entrance door way to her room. She has two entry points. Im waiting on a cupboard to cover the door way up. And throws things at her when she is asleep and pulls at her doona and pokes and pinches and be's an absolute rat bag. Not to mention he trashes his room in the morning and gets up to stuff. he also annoys and wakes up our 8 year old who he shares a room with, to be a pain in the butt.. terrible twos nope ill go with 4's.

Big hugs i hope you can find a balance. Is it possible that hubbie does one night every efw days so you can sleep you need to rest up sweet :hug:

Well DH is right next to her, so he actually "deals" with her (ie telling her to go to sleep, to stop playing peek a boo, its bedtime.. sleep time...) and puts her back in her cot all the time - and he's the one that cops all the head butts from her - but we're all in the same room so neither of us get sleep.

And besides, I don't think I could make him do it on his own while I slept. He just started a new job, is still on probation and its pretty rough of me to expect him to be like a zombie at a new job - we need him to make a good impression so he can get a pay rise at the end of his probation period, and believe me - he needs sleep to function. He's like a brainless dimwit without it.

Whereas, I'm just home with the kids, I can be a brainless dimwit here.. LOL

Big :hug: :hug: :hug: babe. I thought I had a problem with madam waking up twice a night for the last 9 months! I assume she won't just play in her cot by herself? Maybe DH could put a mattress on the floor in her room and sleep there so she can stay in bed, DS can sleep with you and you can get some zzzzzzs? Just a thought, I am sure you've tried plenty of things but it must be so hard being pregnant as well! :comfort:

:hug: hun, maybe stop communicating with her verbally when she wakes, shes getting attention, good or bad its still attention to her, maybe start telling her to lay down,try a couple of times with less talk each time, if she doesnt then remove her back to her cot :dunno: sorry probably not much help, hope you get some sleep soon

Thats what I was thinking. If you both keep your backs to her & ignore her. Well try. I did it to DS last night & he just came & layed over the top of me kissing me all over the face...kinda hard to ignore...
Umm...thats my only suggestion I think. I just hope its only going to last a day or 2 more & she'll be over it. Sorry hun.
Hope you all get some sleep soon.

AJP - her cot is next to our bed, with the side down, so she just crawls into our bed no matter how many times he puts her back in there - she's such a cheeky bugger! LOL

I'm sure if I suggested to DH that he get a mattress on the floor (which we don't have a spare one anyway) he would say that its not comfortable, wouldn't be big enough (he's 6 foot 7 and his feet hang over the end) and friggin cold!!! Its absolutely freezing in her room at night, which is one of the reasons she is in with us, and probably why DS still comes into our bed and sleeps in the middle of us.

Bloody tassie weather.

ETA - Skye, we've tried the ignore thing, doesn't work, she just shrieks louder and throws herself on us - usually starting with head butts. Oh and she's been going through this stage on and off since birth - I just want to get some sleep before the baby comes :(

ETA2 - actually I'm thinking its developmental, cos I'm sure the last time she did this was just before she started crawling for real, not just rocking, and she's been walking around the furniture and behind her walker lately, so is probably getting ready to walk on her own. Which is great that its developmental and not a problem - but not so good at this time!!! LOL

Um, for us it is still going at 22 months :redface:

Is there any chance you can sleep in DS's bed? I find it easier to jump in the single bed just to get away and get some sleep occasionally..

Wish I could help with the kids, but Tassie is a bit far to drive today..

Well, if its developmental I gotta say, be happy its now & not, say, the week you bring the baby home from the hospital!
Sorry I have no other idea. None of mine have actually done that...(I'm suprised, they've done everything else!)
Does she have a bottle then? Maybe a warm bottle will help? If she doesn't have one & if you really want to introduce one then...

Heather - his bed is only a little Mammut one from IKEA - I doubt it will take my weight, I'm sure it has a weight limit on it.. LOL

ETA - Skye, she doesn't have a bottle then, she is only on 2 bottles a day. The first time she did it we tried a bottle and there was absolutely no interest from her for it, so we just wasted a heap of milk for nothing!! So its not cos she's hungry or anything, she's just a night owl.... unfortunately.

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Its absolutely freezing in her room at night, which is one of the reasons she is in with us,

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thats why josiah is with us too as his room is too drafty you can see the ground through the floor boards we bought thick rugs and have covered it all up but its still drafty.

My Dd did this and occassionally still does.. It drives me and DH mental as well.. Especially if we are just going to bed..

Do you think she is waking because the house suddenly goes quiet? Sometimes we have turned all the lights out then waited a while and turned off the tv.. or vice versa.. turn the tv down real low and slowly turn the lights out..

We also have a night light in the bathroom so there is always some light. Our Dd is a very very light sleeper so we have to be very quiet when going to bed (our room is next to hers)

I hope you get some sleep soon. Nothing more annoying then lack of sleep

We have music going in the room, but she is a very light sleeper - just us getting into bed usually wakes her up. Maybe we should just suck it up and put them both in the same room together.. LOL.... his room is right next to a heating vent, so his room is quite warm. I wonder if that would work.

Worth a shot Mel! I was going to suggest that, or just putting the side back on her cot. Ava went through this, pulling my eyelids open and single twinkle twinkle little star to me @ all hours of the morning. Drove me bonkers! i'd just get up without any eye contact, no words and put her in her cot. She'd have a spaz, but then realise that I wasnt going to cave and she'd put herself to sleep. But yeah that's changed again lol she's back in our bed from like 1am onwards *sigh*

Mel- Olivia did this last year....unfortunatley it was from about 9.5 months (Jan) til 19 months. I remember being 8 months pg and sleeping next to her on the floor. She would wake for 2 hours each night and scream....very straining. Then just before Rebecca was born, she suddenly decided she could sleep better, then great, now...well, shes back up and waking me at night ( i told her not to come and wake me so she stands next to my bed and fiddles). Hope she settles for you soon and the weather gets better so she can go into her own room.

Night number 1 of the "ignore" attempt.

She screamed, yelled and cried for about 2 hours - then eventually fell asleep. DH didn't say a word to her, just kept on putting her back down to go to sleep. So I probably got about... oooohhh...... 4 hours sleep last night (mostly in a row.. LOL)

I thought she would wake up when we went to bed cos we were having an HUGE fight (but thats another thread) but she only moaned and uttered a small cry and then rolled over and seemed to fall asleep again.

Hopefully the "ignore" works - cos all that screaming was breaking my heart.

:( I know the feeling. As you know I was in tears last night too :(
Be strong Mel xx

I know Skye :hug:

Oh, and when I say ignore, I mean, he put her back down in the cot, and didn't say anything to her - I'm guessing he was stroking her hair or something - hmm maybe I should check that given my other thread at the moment..

Oh no Mel... i just poke too soon. DD2 has just started this trick for the past few nights...first one from 11pm til 4am....ouch and the second was 11 til 130am. I dread it lasting any longer. I have been in tears today because now shes only slept 30 minutes and her sister has been having major tantrums. My question to myself atm is....do i really want #3???? Gosh, I am barely coping now!

haha!! bit late for me to ask myself that.. LOL

If it makes you feel better - Miss M only slept for 50 minutes today because the cat jumped into her cot and woke her up - and Aricyn has been terrorising her all day, pushed her off the couch and everything - so its NOT been a good day here - lots of tears!

No advice, but BIG :hug:. I have only just started getting any decent sleep here in the past few weeks and that's pretty hit and miss. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you hun...:crossfingers:

Oh Mel crap day here too on the sleeping front so I hear you on being tired. I've got everything crossed you have a better night tonight and little Miss M sleeps better too. If only they knew it was better for them too. I'll cross my fingers for you (and me too).

Thanks guys *mwah*

You sound like you are doing a great job in a stressful (or maybe tiring!) situation. Have you tried ear plugs, given her noises are mostly happy and/or you are trying to ignore her anyway? Might give you/DH a little relief.

Have you tried letting her stay up for an extra hour or two? I know it cuts into your time a bit, and pulls them out of routine, but with both of mine at some stage I resorted to that - just letting them stay up for a bit longer and tire themselves out. Eventually not all that long after they started going down and staying down earlier. Depends how you feel about routine, I guess...we were pretty laxed with both of ours so far.

How'd you go last night?

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Have you tried letting her stay up for an extra hour or two? I know it cuts into your time a bit, and pulls them out of routine, but with both of mine at some stage I resorted to that - just letting them stay up for a bit longer and tire themselves out. Eventually not all that long after they started going down and staying down earlier. Depends how you feel about routine, I guess...we were pretty laxed with both of ours so far.

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We don't really have a "routine" as such - if she doesn't fall asleep on the bottle at 7, then she goes to bed around 8.30. I don't think she should be kept up for another hour, simply because she wouldn't be having enough sleep. Plus, she is more than ready to go to bed at 8.30 cos she's all grizzly!

Liviam (weird calling you that!) - she woke up a couple of times last night (from memory) but DH settled her pretty easily. Still a crappy nights sleep - for some reason I had a panic attack at around midnight - most bizarre!!! Dunno why - wasn't thinking of anything in particular and on it came!