12mth sleep - whats going on?!

We are going into the 3rd week of middle of the night get ups and 0400-0430am get ups - is this normal for a 12mth old?
Miss B will wake up between 2-3 times a night, each time not settling unless she has some bottle even if its a small amount and is now up at the crack of dawn every single morning!
We have tried i assume everything - from black out curtains, to putting her in cooler/warmer clothes incase she is cold of hot and nothing is working!
Im exhausted - it is so like having a newborn again!
Just wondering if this is normal for this age of if its another one of those growth spurts or sleep regressions?
We have even given her panadol incase teeh are bothering her but not even that helps!

Oh and we haven't changed her night time routine at all!

In summer/late spring its wake up early central here too! The birds here are sooo noisy - its so annoying!

Eva is still waking in the night, but she is teething so that could be making it worse. Also now its heating up I think she;s getting thirsty - maybe B's the same? Maybe try water instead of milk?

ahhh good suggestion - thankyou! maybe we could even leave the water in her cot with her - wonder how long that will take tho for her to catch on to it and start drinking it?

can anyone else offer any sort of advice? is this normal?

This may not help you too much, but I found that when I stopped offering that night feed, he eventually just started sleeping through. He would cry for a bit and then go back to sleep. Now DS just wakes up starving super early in the morning and won't shutup until he has his brekky. I hope you are getting some rest x

OH MY GOD... Bell is 11.5 months and doing exactly the same!! I have no advice but know I am feeling your pain! I think I have had about 8 hrs sleep all up over the last 3 nights!! Its crap-o-la!

I am going to try water tonight as well.. I think she is just tirsty!

Hope we work it out asap!!

Kate

well, Jacob was up every hour from midnight last night, I see a trend here....

Hmm maybe this is a nearing 1yr old thing?

kylieb77 - oh i never thought of giving up that last night feed - im just not too sure she is ready - its routine for her to have that last bottle - eek - is that something i should be looking into doing now? i have no idea when thats meant to be done :redface:

Kate- as painful as it is its really good to know im not alone! we have been trying the water thing but its not working here! let me know how you go! However in saying that yesterday she slept in until 6am with only 2 get ups but was back to the many get ups and 4am final get up this morning!

STARRY - im beging to think its a nearing or have turned 1 thing - maybe its a massive growth spurt they are all going thru? whatever it is im over it!

I see a trend here also! Do your little ones not want to go to bed till late either?? Bella will NOT go to bed till at least 9.30!

She used to be a 6.30 - 6.30 bub.. how I miss that!

Kate

Kate - no she is still going to bed at her usual time! we have even tried keeping her up in hopes she will sleep through but nope dosent work! so she is in bed 1900-1930

Jacob has dropped a day sleep, so down to 2, he is so cranky by 5pm, but will not go to bed till after 8pm!!! driving me nuts!!:wall:
It is just getting impossible to get him to sleep too, he used to just do it, now its a struggle, I have even started wrapping him again!

HJ - Lucky you!! Bella JUST went to bed now and it is a real struggle! AGGHHH

Starry - yep sounds the same - 8pm would be a n early night for Bella!!

Ah well no one said it would be easy - just worth it!!

Kate

oh hun, i know u have been struggling with this.

Water is a good idea. Mia has her last bottle at 6pm and if she wakes during the night, she gets water. Then she goes back to sleep. Some other ideas for waking.. what are you putting her to bed in?? could there be mozzies/bugs in the room that are annoying her? Is she having too much sleep during the day? Mia has 1 sleep only now and also goes to bed at 7. Is she on cows milk? how long has she been on it? I found the cows milk gives Mia a bit of an upset tummy when its hot. Whats her bedding like? Are her sheets 100% cotton, it will breath more in the summer making her more comfortable. Is she waking coz shes hitting the sides of the cot? mayb shes getting too big for it? Have you tried introducing a pillow to her cot?


just throwing some ideas out there... HTH

Hj - re your question about the bottles. My MCHN told us that after 12 months they only need 3 serves of calcium a day and no more than 500 gm of dairy all up. So in theory they don't even need a bottle!! Logan has milk on cereal, yoghurt at lunch, slice of cheese, and he has a small sippy cup half full of milk after his bath before bed. He is 100 % on cows milk now too (I just stopped bfing this week).

Kate - yep they are worth it!

STARRY - how long are jbabys naps?

MM - im going to keep trying with the water - we have changed her pj's to summer ones now - but she still wakes up warm - she dosent sleep under covers - and she has cotton sheets, not sure if 100% cotton tho! She only has 2 sleeps a day and they now range between 30mins - 1hr each - so do u think that is too long? could try cutting a sleep but its hell if she dosent have her naps! she isnt on full cows milk yet - just half cows and half formula! thought that it might of been an upset tummy so i put her back on formula and that hasnt changed anything! She has had a pillow since about 6mths old!
and as for getting too big for her cot - my gosh i dont want to think about that - she is growing up fast enough as it is - but u know what thats prob somthing to think about cause she moves around HEAPS in her cot!

Kylie - was it hard stopping the bottles? how did u go about doing it?

Jacobs naps are from 40mins - 2hrs, depends how he gets woken up :rolleyes: usually I can settle him back down and he will go back to sleep.
I find with Jacob anyway, the better he sleeps during the day, the better he sleeps at night. He is feral if he doesnt have a nap!!!

DD 14 months old has 1 big afternoon sleep around 3 hours, she would sleep in the morning but with kindy etc it can't happen otherwise I have to wake her up!!! Don't try to cut her sleep, they say that sleep promotes sleep.
Keep with your regular routine, I would say go to cows milk fully as soon as you finish the can of formula and don't continue feeding her at night, otherwise you make a bigger problem for yourself, I say keep up with the water, every chance she is thristy. We put DD in our bed, it suits us as we kind of co-sleep and she is more relaxed becasue of it. we have nights where she sleeps from 8.30pm to 7.30am and others where she wakes up a couple of times, I agree the birds are a pain and they do start around that time, if bubs is in a light sleep its enough to wake her, we just chuck her in for a cuddle and all go back to sleep for a bit longer.

:hug: Ds1 went through this too..it gets better :hug: xxx

STARRY - sounds like jbaby is a good sleeper during the day! and ur right its the same with B the better she sleep during the day the better she will sleep during the night!

blackduckies - thanks for that sleep promotes sleep advice - i wont try and cut her sleep - it does make sense and she does sleep better if she has her naps!
will take on ur advice and go straight to cows milk once the formula is finished! however how does that work when u go out? the milk wont keep well or is that how i should start weening her off her bottles by not taking them with us and just take water instead? my gosh not sure how i will handle cutting back the night time bottle but i guess its gotta be done! Thanks heaps for ur advice and tips!

Boomba - when does it get better??? hehehe

i wouldnt be giving her milk during the day. There is really no need for it. It wont benifit her in any way. A cheese sandwich will have the same nutritional benifits. There is no way i would give Mia a bottle overnight (unless she was really sick). When she wakes, i fix her up (blanket,teddy etc) and she goes back to sleep. If she wakes again straght away, i always have a bottle of water next to the bed for her, and i give her that and she has a drink and happily goes back to sleep. I think for B, its more of a habit, feeding through the night and its the only thing she knows.


i hope that didnt sound too stuck up.. if it did, im sorry xox

LOL no Holl it didnt sound to stuck up so dont worry about it!
Miss B went awhile there without having a bottle during the night - it has just become a recent thing!
Im going to look at stopping her day bottles also - she dosent ask for them i just give them to her as force of habit i guess! and she drinks it - however never drinks much of it!

have u ever thought.... hay.. shes gonna wake during the night and fuss coz she knows when she does, your gonna get up and get her a bottle? Good idea about the midday one :)

its the only way to settle her - we have let her cry, we have tried resettling, but nothing works except the bottle! and when i say we have let her cry im not talking just for 5mins!

Im interested in trying something.... i'll see what people suggest. Goodluck

STILL not having any luck with sleep! however another tooth has come thru?!