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Hi Girls
I am after some advice from other people with PCOS that are TTC that are currently using clomid or have used clomid.I have just taken my 5 tabs for 5 days(50mg) and am now at day 14 and still have not ovulated.I have been using ovulation preditors but nothing yet....Has anyone else ovulated late or got any advice?
Thanks
Kirsty
Hey Kirsty,
I don't have PCOS, but I took Clomid (days 5-9, 50mg) and O'd quite late (but earlier than I had off Clomid). I didn't get a +OPK until CD19 and I O'd on CD21. That was my 1st cycle of Clomid and I got pg that cycle. I hope you have the same luck with it!
Is your doc monitoring you via bloods or u/s? My OB kept an eye on my follicles from around day 13 which was really helpful.
Good luck!
Hi Kirsty,
I have PCOS and had 4 cycles of clomid. On my first cycle (taking the lowest dosage clomid for 5 days from day 3-7) I had my ovulation confirmed by bloodtest on CD21, but think I O'd on day 17. On the other cycles I wasn't monitored at all by my doc (which is a big no-no) so I used the OPK tests and got a positive on CD 15, then didn't ovulate on cycle 3 at all (used OPKs for two weeks!) and then on the fourth cycle got a positive on CD 16. So... it was a patchy result for me. I thought that if clomid made you ovulate, that it would do so in a 'textbook' fashion ie you O on CD 14 and then AF (or BFP) on CD29. But it wasn't the case for me. In fact, my cycle were long, 32 days, 31 days, 37 days and 31 days. In my case clomid didn't work and I have since moved on to IVF.
So don't panic - it can still happen for you, but just be a little slower than you might have hoped. Fingers crossed you O soon and then get a BFP.
Hi again
Have had my 21 day blood test and they came back quite good.I did 'O' on about day 10-11 :D and my progesterone level came back at 33.Is this level good as at day 22?I'm pretty sure ovulation occurs at about 15.I'm just not real sure about progesterone levels. :-s
Thanks
Kirsty O:)
Thats great news Kirsty! I have heard that OPK's are unreliable for women with PCOS. Fingers crossed you get a BFP!
*hugs*
Cailin
Hi Girls
Just an update....I'm not pregnant this month as AF has arrived.I guess I just start over again, have another appt with my specialist but hopefully because my body went well on clomid 50mg he won't up the dosage as all thoses hormones were hard to get used to again(and not just for me but for hubby too!).Am a little disappointed 8-[ it didn't happen first time on clomid but at least the clomid is having the right affect on my body.
Thanks for the support and info
Kirsty :D
Big *hugs* Kirsty. I am so sorry to hear that AF arrived. Sending you lots of luck for this cycle.
Take care.
Hi
I have another question regarding ovulation and clomid.I have just done a OPK and it has come back a faint positive but its day 17.I guess my question is how late is to late to ovulate?Angel you said previously that you O'd on day 21 and got a BFP.Do I still have a chance?
Hey Kirsty,
I reckon that as long as you do ovulate and you BD around the time you O then you're in with a great chance, doesn't matter if you O on CD14 or CD40! Plenty of people with long cycles still get pg!
Good luck!!
Hey Angel
Since you know so much about clomid I thought I'd ask you about taking your temps while on clomid.Did you find that they were accurate?Its just that I read a rather disheartening article on the net saying taking your temps while on clomid is a waste of time! ](*,) Also I have had a triphasic temp shift a couple of days ago, where my temp goes down 9-10 days after O and then it has bounced back up again.They also said this is not accurate as the clomid does this!I'm sooooo frustrated!! #-o Where as normally it indicates implantation....help I'm losing my mind! :-({|=
Aww Kirsty *hugs*. It can be really frustrating can't it! I too read that clomid can cause higher temps and pregnancy-like symptoms for some people. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to tell if those things are due to the clomid or a pg until after you find out whether or not you are in fact pg.
My temps were always fairly erratic anyway, so I couldn't really tell if the clomid had any effect on them, but I think it's probably something that would vary from person to person. If you have a look in the 'Charting Your Cycle' forum you'll find a link to my pg chart in the successful conceptions sticky thread if you're interested in having a look.
It is sometimes possible to have a dip in temp in the middle of your LP without being pg, even if you're not on clomid. I've read that it's due to a hormone surge (can't remember which one at this point in time) but you don't necessarily have to be pg to get it. However that said, it can be a really good pg sign. I had a temp dip then a rise at 5DPO with this pg.
I'm sure all of the not knowing is driving you absolutely crazy! When do you think you will test? Sending you lots of luck and BFP vibes!
Hi Angel
I think I might test on 13-14 DPO just so I can be sure.....only one more day!!!!I just don't want to have the dissappointment of a bfn.But so far my temps are still climbing and my boobs are sooooo sore and normally approaching AF they are starting to get less sore.I guess even if this cycle is a waste I know that the clomid is having an increasing affect on my body.
Fingers crossed..............
Hi Kirsty
I just wanted to say HI and to hang in there. I am a PCOS sufferer and used Clomid for 5 cycles - I am now 11 weeks pregnant with our first child!!! =D>
For me I was started on 25mg of clomid, then moved to 50 mg and then moved to 100mg - it was the 2nd cycle of 100mg that did the trick - my ovulation levels were something like 130!!! The increase in doses were all under specialist supervision.
In regards to using the OPK - I used the ones from Safeways (fortel is the brand) which are rather cheap compared to what you get in the chemists! I was meant to ovulate around day 14 but my cycles were all different so I brought a couple of packs and started testing from day 11 onwards!! I got a VERY strong positive on the OPK on Day 16 and by Day 30 I tested positive for pregnancy!!!
I used to chart my temp etc but once I was on Clomid they were all over the place so I gave up in the end and depended on counting days, OPK and of course a pregnancy test!
My husband was also very good throughout - I was very discouraged after the first couple of cycles and my husband kept reminding me that we had to give it a few cycles for my body to adjust and get into a routine with Clomid. He was very right - 5 cycles of clomid wasn't a big deal compared to the amount of time we have spent and would have spent trying to have a child without Clomid (it would have lead nowhere).
By the way - I had terribly sore boobs on Clomid!!! The headlights were on full beam ALL the time as well!! Eeeekk!!!
Anyway, I think I have written enough of a novel now - I just wanted to share our experiences with you to give you some hope. I am sorry it is soooo long!!! Hang in there - I know how frustrating it can be but if it works it will all be worth the wait (apart from the nausea anyway!!! LOL)
*Lots of baby dust to you*
Jules
xoxox
Hi Jules
Thanks for the inspiring story, it has given me added incentive to keep going.........I was going to give it 4 cycles on clomid then try something else!!(now I'll leave it a bit longer!)I'm only on 50mg and its my second cycle on it.My specialist hasn't given me any indications that hes going to up the dose.My last cycle I tested at 33 at day 21 so this time round I hope its more, but I won't find out till monday as hes away!!! ](*,) He seemed happy too at the progesterone count of 33 so I guess its good(at least I O'd!).
Its funny you said your last test came back at 130 as thats the exact same count my sister got on her first cycle of clomid 50mg and she got PG!
Thank you once again as you've made my day a little brighter as I continue to wait............................one day till testing!!!!!!!!!!!!! \:D/
Hi Kirsty
Glad I could help your day be a little brighter =D>
Do hang in there .... I know it is really hard having to count each day out and all the waiting. I too thought I would only give Clomid 4 cylces but in the end so glad I stuck it out for another one!!
It takes a while for the body to regulate on Clomid I think - at least you have started to ovulate. I hadn't ovulated as such for over 18 months so it is not surprising it took a few cycles to get everything going!!!
That is interesting about your sister having the same levels when she got pregnant!! Wonder if it is a standard thing for all that get pregnant??
Do try the OPK thing - it will cost you a little bit but if you can start testing around day 11 or 12 then do it every day you will find it much easier to time when you need to do it as such!! The fortel packet tells you the best day to do the test. Clomid can interfer with it but only if you test a couple of days after Clomid or while you are actually taking it. The OPK helped us so much with the last cycle - and it obviously worked!!
Take care and hang in there kiddo!!
Jules
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Hi Jules
Your not going to beleive this but I did a HPT this morning and it came back positive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I still can't beleive its true! \:D/
Thank you once again for all your moral support!
Hey Kirsty!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!! =D> =D> =D>
I am so pleased for you!! *BIG HUGS*
Jules
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Kirsty, congratulations!! I haven't been online for a few days so have only just seen your good news. Wishing you a very H&H pg!!
Hi Girls,
I currently have PCOS, my doc put me on glucophage and clomid 50mg. I finished my third cycle on clomid and just started my period today. My question is, my insurance only covers genarics does it matter that the clomid I'm taking is an off brand? This is so frustrating! I have two more refills left should I finish those and request my doc for 100mg?
Sincerelly,
Alisha
Hi Alisha, this is an Australian site, so I can't respond to your question.
All the best.
Hi Alisha,
I don't think it would make a difference if you're taking a generic brand. They should all do the same thing. I was on serophene, it's clomiphene citrate the same as clomid, just another brand. As you can see by my ticker it still did the job ;)
Is your doc monitoring you in regards to ovulation and how many follicles you're producing? If you're not ovulating on the 50mg then your doc might increase your dosage and/or get you to start taking the clomid earlier in your cycle.
Good luck!
Hi Alisha,
Just wanted to say, welcome to bellybelly!
Hi everyone! Since I can't seem to get my dr. to give me any information ](*,) , I'll ask about it here. It's in regards to taking Clomid.
When your dr decides to put you on clomid, when do you start taking it? Do you have to have a period before hand, and does it have to be a real one, not an induced bleed? Do you only take it for so many days? When do they do an ultrasound to check the follicles?
My GP won't tell me anything about it, and he's not following through with his referral to a specialist, I don't know why, he's just dragging his heels. I'm really displeased with him. :evil:
So who can tell me about this? What is the go from first to last step?
Thanks in advance, and kind regards! \:D/
Hey Tigerlilly,
Grr @ your GP dragging his heels! Fingers crossed you get that referral soon.
With the clomid you'll take it over 5 days early on in your cycle. What days you take the clomid can vary as can the dosage. My OB had me on 50mg from CD5-9. Some girls take it even earlier in their cycles. Apparently the earlier you take it the strong it's effects are.
I'm pretty sure you do have to have a period before you start taking it, but it doesn't matter if it's a real one or induced.
My OB started tracking my follies from around CD14, but I think this can vary depending on your specialist and perhaps the dosage you're on.
Your best bet would be to get that referral and have a good chat to the specialist about it. Good luck with everything!!
Hi TigerLilly,
welcome to BB, hope the other peeps on this part of the forum can help with your Clomid question.
You'll get a better reception here than you did at your GP's!!! I believe that by law, he has to give you correct and appropriate information if you request it, especailly if he has put you on it!
Perhaps you could go to another GP and request your 'notes/records' be sent forward to them. (Are there any others you'd trust to go to in your area?) as they may be more forthcoming with the information.
As for the posting about generic meds, I used two different brand clomids when I was on it, and bizarely enough, one gave me much worse side effects than the other! So guys if you're finding the effects to be too much to bare, next time see about getting the other brand...
I told my dr about this because naturally I figured they must both be identical, to which he agreed. So dont know the explanation for it but definitely each affected me differently, so I figure its worth a shot!
hi there.....i have pcos and i am waitting till i get my period so i can start taking clomid 50mg...
ive been stressed lately and my period is late by 2 days and i took a pg test and it was naturally negative......
i do have a 2 y.o daughter which i am grateful for but would still like another 2 kids......
how does the gynaoe check if u r ovulating? ultrasound or something?
thanks.
Girls - in regards to generic brands of medicines - If you check the packets, you will find that they 'generally' will have the same contents. I used Clomid - and had a very very nasty reaction to it, it lasted 10 days. Because I dont ovulate - and I dont have the same rise in hormones - that is why I was so sick. And that was Not the generic brand.
Keen As -your reaction was probably because your body wasnt familiar to those hormones.
Tigerlilly - go and get another GP. What you need is someone who is willing to help, not hinder.
Tragic - my dr tested for ovulation with a blood test at day 21 of my cycle. Testing for progesterone, which shows that you've ovulated.
Keenas - I've heard that you can have a reaction to the binding agents in tablets. So different brands must use different stuff to bind the drug together. I found this out because I thought I was having an allergic reaction to vitamins, and was told that can be the cause.
Tigerlilly - I didn't actually get around to taking any Clomid because the Metformin did the trick for me :) But I will quote the explanation in the letter from my OB/GYN:
Hope that's useful. As I said, Metformin re-established a cycle for me. I initally was put on Metformin with the intention of starting Clomid after 6 weeks. Apparently Metformin can help you respond better to the Clomid.:
Clomiphene is a drug that interferes in the feedback mechanism to the way the body measures its own oestrogen level. In short it tricks the body into thinking that the oestrogen level is too low so the body drives the ovary harder to release an egg that cycle. Clomiphene has a particular risk which is the risk of multiple pregnancy, so we start the medication in very low dose. We gradually, cycle by cycle, increase the dose until we get you ovulating. This minimises the risk of multiple pregnancy but there is still probably around a one in twenty risk of twins.
The normal protocol is to start you on 1/2 a tablet a day and you take it for 5 days in the menstrual cycle. You can start on the first day of bleeding or somewhat later. Many people do start on the first day of bleeding but I prefer to leave it until day three. If Clomiphene is taken while you are already pregnant then it can cause fetal abnormalities and by the third day of bleeding most women are sure that it really is a period and not a little bit of bleeding early in a pregnancy. If there is ever any doubt then we get a blood pregnancy test performed before you take the Clomiphene that cycle. I suggest you start taking the first dose of Clomiphene on day three of bleeding and then take it for five days only.
In the normal pattern of events you should ovulate around day 14 of that cycle and then menstrual around day 28 if you have ovulated. If you ovulate there will be progesterone circulation and we can test this on day 21. If the progesterone is positive in good level then the next cycle we repeat the same dose. If the progesterone is not positive with the next cycle we increase the dose to a full tablet. If that gets you ovulating we get you to stay on that dosage. If it does not we then progressively increase the dose until you are ovulating regularly.
Anyway.. good luck with your cycles girls!
ivana, thanku for the info.....
i initially wanted to go on metformin but the gynao said there were too many risks and he wouldnt prescribe it to me.....
at the moment i think im stressed ..i see a few ppl i know gettin preg and for some stupid reason i feel left out or something.also i dont want a huge gap b/w kids......
catcha..tragic
hi guys, im in the same boat, i have pcos...we do have one daughter 2 y.o but we have been tryin for 6 mths...im on my last tablet of clomid day 5 of periods.....
when would it be the best time for me and hubby to try?
ciao.
Hi Tragic
My gyno told me to BD like crazy from days 9-17, every second day just so you don't miss ovulation.He also said that we are likely to ovulate 7-10 days after your last clomid tablet.Hope this helps....
hi kirsty, thanku so much for your help...do u have any kids? if so did u concieve straight away with clomid?
we had daniella naturally........but since i have put on weight since the birth and we have been tryin nothings happenin....i dont smoke or drink or do drugs and i find it so frustratin.....today is actually day 6 since i micsalcuated b4...(yesterday was day 5 reds)...........
i think we r just goin to enjoy it coz if u think abt too much u put stress on yrself and yr hubby,,,,,,,,,
take care,,,ciao
Hi Tragic
I'm currently pregnant with baby number 1.We conceived second cycle of clomid which was alot quicker than we thought it was going to happen on clomid!I'm 27 and my sister is 24 and has the same condition and conceived first cycle of clomid after TTC baby number 2 for 18 months.She conceived her first bub naturally like you.Stress does play a huge part, its trying not to stress that is soooo hard!
I wish you luck and let us know how you go....................