Trying something new

Hey Ladies,

DP and i have been looking at other methods to help us conceive :)

He's been encouraging me to have weekly massages and to try accupuncture (He's been googling stuff everynight haha) so I decided to stop off at our local acupuncturist and see what they can do. After talking with the lady there and telling her what I'm there for, she say's I might be cold inside (one of our long time family friends did mention this to me years ago out of general chit chat) she also rubbed her belly and said to me 'You need to exercise and lose a bit of weight too' :lol: well DUH!! i know that already, but she has a point and the past few weeks my diet and exercise has been non existant!

So, the lady recommended I have weekly sessions of accupuncture and massage at a total cost of $85 which saves me about $40 a week :dance: she also says weekly massage will assist with weight loss - if that's the case, i might have to take up residence there!! :lol:

So here's to trying something new!! :D

Hi Naenae - I'm going for my first acupuncture session tomorrow to help us TTC...fingers crossed we make some progress!

I need to lose weight too, but with a hubby, a 15month old and working full time, weight loss is on the same list as finish my uni degree - lol

Good luck - and awesome about the massage...I might be asking about that too! :D

Sounds very positive!!

I had a bit of trouble with TTC #2 and decided to see an Chinese Doctor at the 9 month mark. I felt the treatment really helped get my body working properly again - just generally - although I had not even noticed it wasn't IYKWIM.

I fell pg in the first cycle while having the acupuncture!! So apart from feeling on top of the world, I was on top of the world! I continued to get weekly treatment through my first trimester and am about to go back for some Labour prep treatment too.

Hope things fall into place for you too. :crossfingers:

Naenae - Sounds great! I did acupuncture for a little while too and he said the same thing about being cold inside & to eat 'warm' foods - like soups, caseroles rather than salad etc....

Kel - how did you go today?? and I know what you mean about the weight loss and working full time. DD is 8 and by the time we come home, do homework get lunches ready and so on, its late, and I couldnt be bothered taking time out for myself!!

Jackrose - That is so awesome to hear! Fingers crossed for us and kel too!

Rhichichi - I read last night about eating warm foods and with winter coming up that wont be too hard! :)

Next week will be our DTD week :D so im thinking of maybe doing accupuncture twice? Do you gals think it might help? I'll ask anyway.

hi ladies, i too have done acupuncture, but only once i need to go and have another one soon !!. so does anyone know for how long to do acupuncture for?
thanx helen

Hey tweety, I've heard its good to continue accupuncture for the first trimester (Ive read this helps reduce the risk of miscarriage, dont know how true this is tho)

So far, the accupuncurist has advised one session of accupuncture combined with a massage once a week if sufficient. (At least that's what they recommended for me)

Hi naenae! Just new to these posts! I've also been trying acupuncture to help ttc & pcos. I was told I was cold inside too, been trying to drink wRm water thru the day too.. No luck yet, but fingers still crossed!!

I go to a student clinic; and the young girl tried 'moxa' on me, which is an interesting experience!! But tummy felt warmer afterwards, and I slept well!!

Good luck with the acupuncture, hope it all goes well

Ps where do they place your needles?! If u don't mind me asking!

Welcome to BB Lans :)

Well, today was my first session of accupuncture ... weirdest feeling I've ever felt. He put a needle near my ankle, one on the inside of my calf near my knee on both legs, about 5 in my tummy, 2 in my left thumb, and one in my finger next to my pinky on the right hand.

The only ones that I could feel were the ones in my fingers, and when he pulled out on my right hand side of my tummy near my ovary. I asked why, and they said it was the increase of circulation.

But I'll tell you something - After around 5 mins of the needles being in, i felt pulsating inside near my left ovary for a few minutes, then my right foot went numb and tingly and heavy, then the right ovary area started pulsating for a few mins, then my right foot went numb tingly and heavy again, then i felt pulsing in the middle (I guess where my cervix/uterus is) then my right foot went numb, tingly and heavy again - weirdest, but nice feeling.

When he was pulling the needles out OH THE TINGLES!! Then he started massaging me which was nice, but i started giggling because he tickled my leg!! :lol:

I think it might take me a few sessions to get used to ... but fingers crossed!

Fingers crossed for you too lans & kel!

Sounds good naenae! I agree a very weird experience, especially when the needle goes in and hits the "spot" lol!! I have the needles in similar spots, feet, ankle, legs & tummy. Haven't had any in the fingers it thumbs, but have had a needle in each wrist and one between my eyebrows (third eye area)! I notice when I'm upset I get a bigger reaction of tingles etc!

Fingers crossed for you Naenae, hope it gets everything moving!!

Kel how'd you find your acupuncture session?!

When I was having accupuncture done last night, it gave me a chance to sit back and think about what is going to happen in the next few months. DP and I have given ourselves til September to get a BFP, and after that it will be off to a fertility clinic. I was laying there thinking about how invasive ivf/iui is going to be, and the fear of the unknown. not much frightens me, but ivf/iui does ...

I guess I'm putting a bit of pressure on myself and I guess DP is too, cos I dont want to have kids after I'm 30 (personal choice dont want to offend anyone) and I'd like to have 2 kids by then ... so fingers crossed!

hi , ladies i too had acupuncture last week and she put the needles simular places but not on the tummy and i did ask and she said they dont put the needles in the same areas, well this is my second time, the first one i had done i did have them in the tummy, but i didnt feel a thing, this time i had it near my thumbs and she took my pulse !! and the other two above the rists, well i felt that one, i couldnt move my hands !!
The ladies where saying it should be an on going treatment though, but for how long i dont know???? any way at least we are trying everything can and aswell, anyone taking menstrocare, how have your experences been with getting ur af's?? I have been on them since jan and i slightly got something in feb and at the beggining on this month, but again it started off as light and i dhould be finished by now, but a little heavier and my back KILLS like anything and on top of that i have the flu !!!! i will have to wait till next month and see if they arrive again or maybe we could be lucky :pray: ;):lol::dance: good luck to everyone :D

Hi ladies!
How's everyones acupuncture going?

Tweety: Ive got no idea how long to do it for, I've booked in for weekly appt up until the student clinic finishes in June. The teacher there mentioned it would take several months for my body to start fixing itself! Anyway I try to think about it as relaxation, however, sometimes I wonder when they hit a bad spot!!

Know what you mean about the wrist needles... Arghhh!!! I found putting my arms over my head let my wrists relax a little more.. If that makes sense! I noticed last night when they did the moxa, my tummy seem to warm up a lot quicker than it had in previous weeks.. So maybe I'm warming up in there!!

I haven't had AF for several months, was really hoping that acu would help.. Keep hoping!! I haven't tried the pill you're on.. Maybe I should try it out?!

Stay positive everyone :)

hi lans,

Well i have been on them since jan and the lady said that it takes some ladies 2 to 3 months to get a af, and i saw mine in feb it was just spotting but it was there :lol: and now at the end of march !!! i am happy that its working ,it has a lot of different types of herbs in it and i think each one plays a diff role and i have searched each and everyone :lol:, just to make sure, but i havent experienced anything bad from it, just the oppisite, and i just went to a health shop and i told her my symptoms, so just inquire about them or search on the web, i know i have millions of times, oh and ladies i have read they have done studies on acp that it could cure PCOS whooooooo hoooooo, if anyone wants to email elenifillou@hotmail.com me for the info please feel free :dance:::clap:
cheers helen and believe that it WILL happen !!!!:D

Hey ladies,

How are we going??

Well, it's almost time to dtd, and i've been taking my supp's in the morning as usual, but this time i decided to take EPO and today is my first time i've actually got LOTS of CM :dance: the previous gyno said CM wasnt that important, but after speaking with my naturopath, clearly it is and makes sense why.

I'm now on menstrocare too, this is my 2nd cycle. It has changed my period slighly, well on day 28 (this cycle) i spotted very lightly, and then day 29 was the full flow. the naturopath said to take it from the first day of the full flow, not the spotting day, He also said my period should be 29 days because a pill cycle is 28. 28/29 days, i dont care as long as it is regular!!:lol: Other than that, the menstrocare really hasnt changed anything.

Im starting to wonder if CM was/is our issue? I normally dont get CM, i do occasionaly, but not every cycle .. time will tell!

So, how's everyone doing?

hi naenae83,

Thank you for the information ( menstrocare) about spotting and when it really counts :D, becasue i had spotting on 2/4 and then after a week, i actually had a flow yupppyyyy !!!!!
so now i have to wait and see when abouts i ov, i have invested in the maybe baby ov tester and i have been doing it just to get the hang of it :lol:.

Oh, when you get your af's do you stop taking the tabs or do you still continue to take them?
Thanx helen

hey helen,

I take menstrocare even through af :) I seem to be suffering with a constant lower back ache in the first 2 weeks which is annoying

We're in the 2ww now, last month of o'd on day 14, but this month I o'd on day 12, so it is a good idea (well for us it is anyway) to keep up those OPK's :)

Do you take any other supps? How are you finding the menstrocare? how many cycles have you taken the supps for?

I had my 2nd session of accupuncture today ... OUCH!!!! man it hurt this time. the accupuncturist also done moxibustion, that truly WARMED me up inside!! So surreal! Lets hope this month will be our month!

Another of my relatives is expecting!! that now makes 5 people in my famz UTD! Lets hope I am lucky number 6!!!

Hows everyone going??

Hope all is well :)

Hi Ladies

how are you all?

Naenae- how u feeling with ur moxa & 2nd acupuncture session? Ive had a few sessions where its been a bit painful when that needle went in! Ive had moxabustion done a few times now; and like you find it really warms the tummy up.. altho it seems to take some time for me! And then i stink the train out with that smell on the way home! :)

Not much news with me.. taking a break from the acupuncture for a few weeks.. feeling a bit over it. We've been TTC since Sept and no luck. No AF for almost 3 months... which at any other time of my life would be awesome! lol.. however not now when all i was is to be UTD! Ive got an appt with the Royal Womens Hosp next month to see if they can help out .. Also in June an appt with an endocronologist (ive got PCOS)... Why cant it just happen like they tell you about in school.. you know.. if you have sex you fall pregnant straight away... so nooo sex! lol

My poor DH has been working so hard to build up some savings, working 18 hour days.. then was struck down with shingles.. so we not having a good run! However, on the upside im on holidays next week.. so maybe a bit of RnR with bring on AF and O and a baby? Lol.. i wont hold my breathe!

Just wondering ladies, you are both on Menstrocare.. do u have to see a naturopath to get that? Im taking Vitex, but thought i should try out Menstrocare to see if it can encourage AF to show!

Good luck with ur acupuncture!! And heres to loads of baby dust for us all :)

p.s. naenae.. just read you are in the tww.. how u feeling? Have u done any sneaky testing?!

Tweety--> How you going? How do u find the Maybe Baby? I was thinking of getting one.. do i think its worth it? (Mind u it probably isnt much point at the moment, as no O'ing going on here!!)

Hey lans - sorry to hear Af hasnt shown for 3 months! that sux big time! I actually posted earlier in a new thread, cos ive noticed a few days prior and post O I feel nausea on and off for a couple of days. I'm thinking it might have something to do with my hormones?

LOL @ what your taught in school - if only it was that easy hey!!

Oh accu really hurt this time LOL seriously, I could feel a couple of the needles in my leg and hands sting, i swear he hit a nerve cos my leg jolted! :lol: i kinda liked the moxa i could definately feel the warmth! I had to tell him it was hot, at one point i thought he was burning me (Could that mean im not cold inside??) The lady Mary (she's beautiful!) came in to see how I was going, and she stayed with me for around 15-20 minutes soothing me, this time around I was quite tense and made it worse when the needles hurt :lol:

My naturopath gave me menstrocare and ovarianne to take for the first month, along with polyfem. Now (2nd cycle) I am just on menstrocare and polyfem, a womens multi vitamin. He also gave DP a mens multi and zinc supps. The multi's he gave us were better than the menevit/elevit.

I feel for your DP doing 18 hr days! Thats crazy!! I hope he doesnt have to do the 18 hr days for too long, he would burn out rather quickly!

I've heard accu helps with your AF? Maybe you should see a naturopath (your choice of course) and see what he/she recommends? Can't hurt ... can it?

DP and I have until September to get a BFP, otherwise we will be off to a FS :( obviously something no one wants to do hey!

Sometime I wish i could think about other stuff when Im having accu. All I seem to think about is how invasive IVF/IUI is going to be, and its scary! I think about how accu feels, and wonder how much more painful IVF/IUI will be, and how uncomfortable it will be!

Wishing lots of baby dust for us all :) :pink-babydust::bluedust:

hi naenae83,

Oh ok, so i shouldnt stop taking the tabs when i get my af's, cool thanks, i don't take any other supps ,oh, only diabex for the insulin level, but i might look into taking a natural supp aswell !

I used to take multi vitamin pregnancy platnum ( natures own) which i might start taking them again i guess, well i might have to ask first?!!

What other supps are you taking? this will be my fourth cycle i'm on menstrocare, and i dont have any complaints about them, well i am actually surprised that it has worked so quickly, really, see i always want things to work fast :lol:, and i know that i always ' jump the gun ' ( i wanted to get pregnant straight away ) but as the naturo path lady said , it is best to fix me first and then everything will fall into place :D, hope she is right !!!!

Anyway good luck with your 2ww :crossfingers::):)

hey tweety, i still take menstrocare during af . . Keep's it in your system :-) i'm off to bed now, but i'll post more tomorrow :-) night!

Hi lans,

We are in the same boat ! ( PCOS) and i too was taking vitex on it's own, and nothing was happening, although maybe i didnt give it enough time???

Anyway, i just searched about natural herbs and i made it a misssion to seek help, (other than the gyno, i did have a d&c and caz one ovary is blocked and of course the PCOS, he said to read up on IVF) but i dont want to go down that path,(yet) he didnt even consider me trying clomid !!

i can and i will do everything possible to do it and hopefully i can fix it for good :), i always think, am i doing the right thing, and my poor dh doesn't really believe the herbs side of things, but, i need to try at least something !!!!

Any way i'll stop moaning lol, but give the menstocare a try, just ask at a health shop, but only practioner's are allowed to give them, and it does have a lot of diff herbs, i was told by the lady that it takes about 2 - 3 months to get a af, and i started in jan and i saw mine in feb, and again in march :dance: so just give it a try ;).

all the best in what ever you decide to do :) , hope we eventually ALL get that bonus in the end :D

P.S about the maybe baby, i think its good, caz you do see the changes of the saliver and i am using it every morning, i have a couple of friends who have used it and they swaer by it, mind you i did um' d and r'd at first !! plus i am doing everything and anything !!!! LOL I keep thinking, i dont mind spending it on something that could will help me in the future , if you know what i mean ( Baby) ;) cheers helen

Hi ladies!

Naenae.. How u feeling? Hope af isn't showing any symptoms and u get a bfp!!! :)

Tweety.. How u feeling? Great news about af starting so quickly after menstrocare. I might have to take myself off to a naturopath.

Afm not much news.. No af still. Finally got my letter from the hospital re appt for help. Had to ring the bug boss at work tonight.. Had to spill the beans that we were trying & having troubles and need to see docs.. And is that ok to take time off work etc. She was lovely about it and now have to fess up to my manager tomorrow. I hate that something so personal has to be spoken about with ppl you normally wouldn't. Drives me crazy that I need help & I can't just rock up and smile excitedly and yell I'm pregnant!!!!!

Ahh enuf if feeling sorry for myself! Went to a gyno not long ago who was rude and told me to lose weight & come back in 6 mths. When I asked about clomid he told me that there is 10% chance twins, which I said was cool.. But he's like NO! More complications blah blah blah so negative about it all. Almost feel like it's discrimination, cos I need help that a doctor can make comment & judgements on my weight, and virtually refuse treatment; however if I managed to become utd naturally they just have to deal with it. Hmph.. Sorry!! Just needed to get it out!

I'm on vitex, prenatal vitamins, royal jelly caps & propolis.. Tried licorice root for 7 days as that's supposed to help too.. I feel like a druggo sometimes!! Lol

Baby dust for us all :)

Hi Ladies! How are we all?

My first cycle after the naturopath, I was put on polyfem, menstrocare and ovarianne. Now (2nd cycle) Im on polyfem, menstrocare and a womans multi :D

Lans - You poor thing re spilling the beans! It does suck when you have to spill your personal beans to someone you normally wouldn't confide in :hugs: for you.I know what you mean bout the situation driving you crazy! It drives us crazy too, we always sit there and wonder ... WHY? WHY US?? have you considered seeing another gyno for a 2nd opinion?

Tweety - we decided to look at other options too after being told our only option will be ivf :(. We have given ourselves a time limit, and if nothing happens by then we will be off to the FS, scary but if it has to be done, its has to be. We can only hope trying these things will help us with a BFP :)

As for me in my 2ww, its only 5dpo- and it seems to be going SOOO slow!! Not really feeling anything tho ... dont think think its even implanted yet :lol: .. fingers crossed tho!

:babydust: for ALL of us :):pray:

Well today is 7dpo, and I'm over TTC.

I couldnt be bothered having accupuncture anymore, or seeing a naturopath.

I do not think we are lucky enough to conceive naturally, so now I guess i need to decided whether or not we should bring our IVF visit up a few months.

Good luck ladies - I hope you manage a BFP naturally!

hi naenae38,

Whatever you and your partner decide, GOOD LUCK ;) hope in what ever path you choose it will eventually bring you joy :)

Hi lans,
I am not too bad, i have been using the (maybe baby) for a couple of weeks now and i have seen today the pattern of oving, so now all we have to do is a little of planning (bedroom wise) and hopefully it works !!! ;) i am still doing acupuncture which i hope is helping aswell, anyway i have to do try everything i can ;). I am giving myself till the end of the year and if nothing has happend i am going to get a second opinion from another doctor, i dont want to just yet, i want to see what happens, i have a gut instinct that it just might work ;). any ways baby dust to all ;)

Hi All :)
I had my first session of acupunture today and he also did cupping (after *****ing the skin, so some old blood comes out).
The man was very informative and I felt comfortable with him and I have confidence in him.
Apparently I need to keep my feet warm and see him once a week until I ovulate, so once more next week as Im CD1 today.
So fingers crossed, heres to trying something new!

How is every one else going?

Hey girls,

I stopped the accupuncture. It just wasnt for me. I found it so uncomfortable. I am now on a liquid from the naturopath, this is my 2nd month and apparently its given me a 'clean out' so instead of a 28 day cycle, this month was a 21 day :rolleyes: I just hope this stuff is really working for me. Our deadline is still September.

BTW - there are now 8 ppl in my fam pg which is depressing :( H&H 9 months to them, but i wonder why not us? kwim?

I try not to think about it tho, i dont want to be too negative about it ..

Good Luck Kate - hope it all works out for you :)

so hows everyone else going?

Naenae - I've just booked my first acupuncture session for next week, but don't know how I feel about now after reading your posts. Fingers crossed anyway. I just wanted to say that if you end up having to go down the ivf road not to panic. I did it a couple of years ago and when the doc first mentioned ivf i nearly fell off my chair - but it got me the beautiful bub I'd dreamed of. Some women need intervention during birth, some need it during pregnancy and some need it to conceive. I'm just glad it is an option these days or maybe i'd still be TTC. Good luck!!!!

thanks Kaybee - The idea of IVF still freaks me out. when we were told the only option would be a referral to an IVF clinic it didnt really sink in until 15 minutes after i left. I was at the shops balling my eyes out. I just couldnt believe all our tests (SA, and O BT) cameback ok I thought we'd be able to do it on our own. Our first step would be iui - and that doesnt seem so bad (permitting iui is an option for us)

Try the accu - it may work for you :) I was just not comfortable having it done, but i know there are accu stories out there that are successful :)

BTW - I love your saying 'Some women need intervention during birth, some need it during pregnancy and some need it to conceive' I have never looked at it that way :) But your right on the mark!

Good Luck with the TTC journey - let us know how you go. Are you having sessions weekly? I also had a massage after my accu. That was the only thing i looked forward to LOL

Naenae

Not sure how often my accu sessions will be yet, but will definitely ask about a massage while I'm there! I know the whole idea of ivf is so scary - it's like admitting those things that only happen to other people are actually happening to you. Iui was an option for us but I figured that if I was going to get help I wanted the help that was going to have the greatest chances of working so I could just get in, get pregnant and get on with life. Ahhh, decisions decisions! Best of luck

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Naenae

I know the whole idea of ivf is so scary - it's like admitting those things that only happen to other people are actually happening to you

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Totally.

How long were you ttc#1? If you dont mind me asking - what type of issue do you/your dh have?

Basically we were just labeled infertile because the time that has lapsed and no pregnancy what so ever, and they couldnt find any other reason

Good Luck to you too :)

Hi naenae,

We were TTC #1 for almost 2 years before doing ivf. DH has good sperm, my hormones are fine, my uterus is fine, my tubes are fine, I'm fit & healthy and have never been overweight or had any health problems -it's sooo frustrating. Dunno if that's any help to you

OH yeah - it is frustrating.

It did help :) thank you. Its just nice to know Im not the only one.

Hi All,
Well Im not sure if it was the Chinese Acupuncture and the herbs, or the DHEA, or a combination of both, but we finally got our BFP :)
Im still putting a heat pack on my feet each night and keeping my fingers crossed that things go smoothly.
We were going to save up to do another IVF cycle after our Wedding in October, so this is a real blessing :)
I hope you all get your BFP soon :bluedust::pink-babydust:
xox

Congrats! What a relief for you!

Enjoy the pregnancy! Wishing u all the best :-)