Long-term TTC & Assisted Conception April - May 2010

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wow I think I am the first one to post in the new thread...
am feeling a bit better today my cramping is not as bad, headaches are not as bad and am feeling better just a little tired I did have last night off from milking and slept for two hours then had a great nights sleep with no hot flushes. I started back on my herbs yesterday after loosing faith in them I think I am a convert again lol I think they are helping. no more pill now either woohooall in all feeling much better today.
thanks for all the suggestions guys so many bfp's hopefully those who have just had their precious emby's transferred are very sticky ones and I hope that you also have a few to make snow babies if need be.
I hope this good feeling lasts am feeling great for the first time in weeks.

Hi Ladies,

Chekigal: I had a hard time convincing my FS to prescribe Prednisolone, took me a good 2 months of arguing over it before she finally gave in.
With the 5mg tablets it costs $13.45 for 60 tables in the bottle.
For all my cycles now I am on Clexane 20mg, Cartia 100mg and Prednisolone.
Clexane and Cartia from Ovulation. Prednisolone 10mg from day 1 of cycle then at Ovulation increased to 20mg. I take them 1st thing in the morning with FOOD otherwise I get severe heart burn.

With regards to limits, DH has said this is our limits, there are no more Fresh IVF cycles, he is of the opinion that with his Sperm DNA Fragmentation being so high, I am just wasting my money (and when I say my money, I am paying for all of this not him :o). Note: we did do TESA for our last cycle which is supose to reduce DNA Fragmentation.
I have 8 Embryo's left so once their gone that's it for us.
Unless I win Power Ball on Thursday night then I can do IVF till the cows come home. :D

Ladies just a little reminder about NK Cells. Please ask your FS if you can get tested, its just a blood test and can save years of heartache in TTC.

AFM: Feeling very miserable and dishearted with the whole IVF cramp right now.
Well I did it, I rang and book myself into acp for the first time ever, I am very very nervous, the only problem is that I couldn't get in till 29th April.

Hello to everyone else out there, good luck to you all.

Hi everyone,

Glad to hear you are feeling better trueblue. It's amazing how more positive you can feel when your body is feeling nearer to normal.

Danyelle, coincidently I booked my first acp yeterday for next Tues. Where abouts in Syd are you? If you want to pm me I can let you know where my acp (recomended by my FS) is.

K78 - Congrats on your ET. Personally, I think that the fact you already have 2 blasties is fantastic. Fingers crossed you won't be needing your little frostie for quite some time.

chekigal - GL for this cycle. Have you heard back yet? As for how much is too much. I just don't know. Sometimes I just feel so emotionally tired of it all and other days I feel extremely positive. All the meds and cycling for so long just feels like you are wishing your life away to get to a point. Feels like you're constantly waiting. Other times I feel really strong and confident.

Juniper - hope your sniffing has started well and you can keep those nasty headaches at bay. Did you POAS?

JBM - I hope you are feeling a little better

KMM - Congratulations on your wonderful surprise and thank you so much for your kind words of encouragement.

Loops - Hey there, did you end up POASing? FX for a surpriseHow far away is your trip?

Hi to Lairdoz, Melissal, Truebabe and anyone else I may have missed (i'm sorry)

AFM - Am 1/2 way thru my 3 month wait. Tick tock. tick tock but am cheering everyone who is cycling on from the sideline.:cheer:

Hi Ladies

Kmm ~ Big Congratulations! :dance: All the best for a H&H pregnancy.

JBM ~ Hope you're feeling better soon and you can hav another go!

CK77 ~ Dont feel guilty hun - you're one of the lucky ones and we are happy for you! xo. Cattle farming is not so bad lol, as long as you have a break after transfer. Exercise and staying fit is good.

True ~ I had all those symptoms too hun, it'll pass. Very excited for you guys and :pray: you get BFP first go 2.

Juniper ~ :crossfingers: and GL hun.

Chekigal ~ 5 is great! Rest up and FX for you. Thanks for your wishes feeling ok. Weird tummy jabs lately though.

K78 ~ They do say Blastocycts are supposed to be more successful. 2 is good, ive never had any to freeze. I reckon the non expanded one will be fine too. Mine obviously didnt even make it to that stage so you're lucky. GL hun and FX

Danyelle ~ GL hun, hope you dont ever need to do another stim cycle again anyway! Stay positive xo

AFM ~ Still getting weird tummy jabs and so wondering and hoping again for a miracle. Highly doubtful but you can only hope. Also have had the odd feeling of nausea. Could all be AF coming very soon though, which will be good anyway.

Love and :bluedust::pink-babydust: to all!!

Tantee ~ Hi hun, sorry we must have posted at the same time. I havent POAS'd yet. Think I'm gunna wait until Monday because normally I would start to get AF on a Sunday. So If I havent by then I'll test. We leave for Tassie on the 9th May - not long to go and I can't wait - very excited.
I hope your wait for June goes quick. Im sure it will, we are nearly at May already LOL!
Wont be long until the cycle starts for you. GL xo

CK77 - We are about to have our 9th try (our 4th FET) in a couple of weeks and I always try and stay really healthy, exercising, eating well etc. I rest up a lot too after ET and just pretty much put my feet up. I stopped work later last year as we ran our own business and after so many years of TTC it all became too much and I really needed to just de-stress and I have to say I am very relaxed. My husband also does hypnotherapy so he has done some really great work with me to relax. We had a fresh cycle in Dec 09 and I remember just crying and crying from the moment we walked into the hospital because I was sooooo anxious about it working. After doing some work with hypno we did another fresh cycle with our new FS and I was so relaxed and calm about the whole thing.

Re prednisolone I am taking it for elevated NK cells and I firmly believe it made the difference as after 8 years and loads of transfers we got our first ever BFP. Sadly I miscarried a couple days later but my HCG was decent and it showed on when I POAS which has never happened before. I am taking 20mg daily and although I had some bad insomnia and have put on weight I don't care if it gets me a take home bubba.

Congrats KMM and good luck to all the others in the TWW or upcoming ET's.

Cheers

Chekigal, DH & I were talking about limits on the way home yesterday. He thinks we can only afford either 1 or 2 more after this one, so I guess we're almost at our limit. Of course, what Danyelle said about lotto would apply for us too. ;)

Danyelle, it took me over a year to talk myself into trying acu. I took a break from it after my last IVF because I need a break from all things TTC. I never realised how much I was missing it until I started back a few weeks ago! Even with my fear of needles I love it!

tantee, yes I POAS and it was BFN. I could just about convince myself there was a hint of a line there if I squinted a little and got the light right (and spun around 3 times on one foot while reciting the alphabet backwards and doing a vodka shot :shakehead:), so I'll test again in a couple of days. It's probably just wishful thinking though...

So, I started the synarel this morning. Now I just have to work out how/when to tell my managers... I'm tempted to wait until AF is here and there's no going back, but we have an agreement that I tell them ASAP and in exchange they accept me taking the required leave on short notice. Hopefully I won't have too many s/e this time and that will work out okay.

I think I have just come to the (not-so) startling conclusion (as I was writing) that I really hate doing IVF... :wall: I think I might go do this for a while: :hide:

Hi Ladies

Firstly congratulations to both Brunette & CK77 on their BFP's and CK don't feel bad that you got lucky on your first go

Loops12 I so hope that what you are feeling is a little miracle if not I'm sure its not to far away

trueblue glad your having a better day. Its amazing how differntly our bodies can react each day hope that you continue feeling good

Danyelle I truly beleive that your not to far away now that you have changed your meds and that you wont have to do another fresh cycle. You'll be surprised how good you'll feel with acp and that the stress levels will be reduced

tantee you haven't got long to wait now I know when I took a break I thought it seemed so far but its really not. Having a normal life for a while really helps

To those I've missed really sorry but hope your travelling well. I totally agree with Danyelle if you have had succesive attempts at IVF and have been told there is nothing wrong with you get more blood tests. After much persitance on my part I had testing done and now they know I have elevated white blood cells so they'll treat that with my next transfer

AFM well I'm finally back on the wagon. Booked in today for a natural thaw cylce. Got my scan next Friday and with a little med's change up after the transfer hoping that this one will be my month

Just wanted to say "hi" and introduce myself. I'm halfway through my first-ever stim cycle after TTC for 6 years (on and off) naturally. When DH finally consented to get tested this year (typical guy -- had his head in the sand for years about our having a problem), we learned he has 99% poor morphology (nothing else wrong, though), so we'll be doing ICSI. As for me, I had an exploratory lap/hyst/dye last month and the FS said everything was perfect, plus I've had no other issues ever with my cycle, so I thought DH's poor morphology was our only problem other than the fact that I've obviously aged over the past 6 years and am now 38! ;) But now I've just found out that my AMH is only 6.9, which apparently is going to create problems, so I'm kicking myself for not making more of stink with DH about getting started on the AC journey a couple of years ago. Live and learn, right?

Anyway, I just had my first scan today. (See my other threat in the IVF subforum asking how many follies it is normal to see at the first scan.) I had 7 follies that were big enough to count, and some smaller ones. It sounded low to me, but the doc seemed quite happy with that considering that we didn't know how well I'd respond to the Puregon (I'm on 275). I have another scan in 2 days, and he thinks we'll probably end up doing the EPU on Tuesday. I hope Tuesday works out b/c one of my parents is flying in for a visit on Wednesday morning and I'm not sure who would pick them up from the airport if DH is busy producing his swimmers and I'm doing my EPU then! (Plus, it would be awkward having to explain what was going on considering that my parents don't know I'm doing IVF.)

So, that's my story. Nice to meet all of you. I've been lurking in this thread for a week or two now so I feel like I "know" you girls to some extent although I haven't posted here until now.

Good luck to everyone with your cycles this month!

KitKat72

Hello All,!
Im just jumping on the IVF rollercoaster..couldnt find which forum was best suited to me but I thought Id jump in here.
Anyhow me so far:

TTC #1
Off OCP 18months but formally TTC since Dec 2009
Irregular cycles since off OCP with main problem being spotting (spot/bleed from 5dpo)
Hubby has had 2 x varicocele ops - found out today has a lowish sperm count 9000 and low motility
Have had 2 US and numerous blood tests.
Saw FS today and had US who said I have 3 follicles at 10mm at cd11, thought I was going to ovulate friday but not the case!! FS thinks I may not be ovulating, hence the spotting. So both male and female infertility factors!
Plan for repeat US Monday cd16 which will hopefully show me about to ovulate, if not will start treatment to cause that. Will also be having some hormonal support post ovulation to hopefully stop spotting.
Trying to decide how long we give this ago as FS has given us options of IUI or IVF.
How long have other people waited before going IUI?
Thanks!

Hi guys,

Wow a lot has happened in such a short space of time.

Hi to all those ladies who are joining us for the first time, FX your visit will be short.

Gongrats to those ladies who have achieved their BFP's :dance:That is great news!!!

Hello to everyone else, sorry i don't have time to catch up with everyone at the moment, bell is about to ring (I'm a school teacher).

AFM - i am still waiting for AF to arrive i am getting a bit nervous. I am now on day 51 of my cycle and according to POAS ovulation kit i ovulated the Wed after easter so that is now 16 days ago!!!! I am to scared to do a preg test, but really don't feel that AF is on its way. I will cave on the weekend if still nothing. So i am now just praying we have a little miracle on the way!!! Will catch up better when have some spare time.

Loops: do u have any headaches chick I have my fx'd so tight for you that a little miracle has happened and that this one is even stronger than the last one and very very super sticky

Thanks guys I think I spoke too soon though I woke up this morning and I have the shortest temper this morning poor dh has copped it a bit. I don't mean to take it out on him but unfortunately he's always there when I am cranky.
I was so hoping to have lots of good days no headache though so at least that's one thing might had a mid day nap maybe that's why I felt so good yesterday cause the day before I had a nap in the day time. AH well it's a beautiful day and I shouldn't be feeling like this so I best be off to feed some baby calves and puppies we are now down to 8 but after the weekend we'll only have 6 puppies and maybe even just 5
Hello everyone who has just joined may your stay in here be a super short one.
Renee: fx'd that when you finally do cave in and poas it comes up with a big neon sign saying bfp
hello to everyone else will be back later for more persies

Hi all you lovely ladies

After lurking for a couple of months, I've decided to come out from under my chair and join you all again. My goodness, so much has been happening, its hard to catch up!

Renee - :crossfingers: for you, I sooo am hoping that its good news... good luck with the POAS on the weekend.

Terry - so pleased to see you're back on the wagon! Hope you've enjoyed your break from this madness. :crossfingers: for you too, that it is a resounding success!

Loops - hope you're recovering nicely, sweetie, you went through so much, :pray: that there's some wonderful news this month! Enjoy your trip to Tassie.

HI :hello: to all the newcomers!

AFM - I'm in the thick of my first IVF cycle, and a bit nervy. I had my egg collection yesterday, feeling OK today, even though they got 36 eggs (I had a heart attack when I saw the number on my hand, the joys of PCOS I guess). Am on OHSS watch at the moment, on Monday my E2 level was 29000. Off to acupuncture again this arvo, which I think is helping. We're planning for a day 5 transfer on Monday, if I don't go downhill in the meantime.

I'd love to pick your brains about the embies if I could - of the ones that fertilised (they did ICSI on the viable eggs), I was wondering if we should freeze a couple on day 3, or go for broke with them and go for just blasties? We have to decide by tomorrow, and I have no idea what to do...

Thanks in advance for your help. Hope you're all having a great day!

Hi Leabie, If it's any help, most FSs prefer to use day 3 embies on frozen cycles. Debate rages about day 3 and day 5 for fresh cycles. On my last stim cycle I kept more out from the deep freeze as I hadn't seen a blasty on my two previous stims - and this was against my FS advice. Some were frozen at day 3. I got a good number of blasties, which was great at the time, but when we started doing the frozen cycles they don't want to use the blasties - only as a back-up if the day 3s don't thaw well. Still, having said that, they will use blasties in frozen cycles if there are no day 3s. Hope this helps, hun!

Welcome to the newcomers!

Hi to all the other lovely ladies!

Thanks so much for that Brunette! I think I'll stick a few day 3's in the freezer.

CONGRATULATIONS to you!! So excited to see your news. Hope you have a happy & healthy pregnancy!

For the people who are doing acupuncture...at what stage in your cycle do you go? Im thinking of starting (It cant hurt, right?!) just trying to work out when I should make an appointment, dont want to go and they say they cant do anything until next month etc. Also, has anyones DH had acupuncture? Just wondering if there is anything to say it can help if he has it to?

Yeah Leabie, I think freezing a few just in case is a good idea. For the cycle we got DS we put 4 in the freezer at day 3 and ended up with 3 blasties.
This time the embryologist recommended thawing the 4 day-3s and seeing if we could get any blasties - only one made it. So we still have our 2 'backups'

It's interesting (in a way) and I'm not sure why, but some people seem to do much better with blasties and some with day-3 embies. Blasts seem to work better for us.

Albi - I guess it can be helpful at any stage, but I know it's often recommended before and after transfer.

:goodluck: Renee.

Hi everyone else - Hope you're all travelling well. I'm mostly just back to lurking these days

Hi Ladies
Just a quick one as Im at work and busy.

True ~ No headaches for me hun, hoping thats a good thing. Might get POAS tonight and do in the morning. Not holding my breath but it would be a wonderful miracle wouldnt it.
Good luck with the pups - they are so gorgeous. How are you with the needles or havent you started them yet?

Leabie ~ Hi hun, welcome back and thank you. Im hanging in there and just trying again. GL to you sweetie, FX

Hi to the newbies and wishing you all the best.

Im sorry I'll do better persies later but lots of babydust and stickyvibes to all!
AFM ~ Weird tummy pains still, gunna get a POAS tonight I think. Havent had AF since start of my cycle and my loss - so about 2 months. But I would think that would mean it would be more impossible to be pg. Dont know

loops: haven't strated the needles yet start them next wednesady which am still scared but I am just going to suck it up as I keep reminding myself it's not like I am meant to enjoy the needles it's all for a good cause we are down to 6 pups and yes they are very cute and am really attatched to this litter I think it's all the hormones I am on.
Haven't had headaches as such just sort of a dull feeling like there is one on the way that doesn't come which is progress and am enjoying it very much.
Ohhh chick I so hope you get that big neon sign in the morning but yes definately for you no headaches is a great sign do you have ANY of your usual af symptoms?
BTW have heard that apparently after a M/C you are super fertile and can get utd easily I think it has something to do with the m/c cleaning everything out I surpose the same way a lap/curette would.
I have all toes fingers and everything x'd for you chick let me klnow how you go

Sorry ladies -haven't had chance to catch up with everyone's news...

My FS did prescribe presoline (spelling?) - had heard a few bad symptoms connected to this so just wondering how others found it.

Had ET today - embies not doing so well - had a cell 7 and a cell 8 ranked as a 2.5 out of a possible 4 transferred - others not looking so good. Had a new emby divide so now that makes six all up ... FS will see how they go over the next few days rather than freeze now.

Just lying around taking it easy today. Have still been in quite a bit of pain since ET - but FS thinks all is doing well.

Have to say - so far best ET ever!!! FX:2ww:

Hi Ladies,
My AF arrived today, so am starting yet another cycle.... this time a FET with hopefully a blast to be transferred. Had a wonderful month off, so much so that I don't know if I want to do this again, but I know the prize is worth it if it all works out. Great to see some BFP's in here, I hope there are a few more in here soon!
It will take me a while to catch-up on where everyone is up to I think but hope everyone is well! :)

albi, I did acupuncture weekly for 4 months before my last IVF to allow her time to work on my egg quality as much as possible. For the actual IVF cycle I was still just going weekly until EPU. Then I went the the night before my transfer and was supposed to go straight from transfer back to acu but my transfer was cancelled. If your transfer is later in the day a good acu will do a treatment immediately before and then immediately after the transfer. There are certainly plenty of men who go to acu for fertility treatments, but my acu said it will only help (anyone, not just men) if they want to do it, so don't try to force him. I'd guess they may want about 3 months to work on his sperm quality, but even if you don't have that long every bit helps. Plus it's so relaxing! :)

Hi Everyone.

Welcome to all the new people, and hope you don't stay with us for too long.

I'm still lurking, but still waiting for scan on Sat (ooh, that's tomorrow:) and then I find ut when transfer date is. Sometime next week:) Hopefully adfter Tuesday as I am due to go see Kelly Clarkson Tuesday night and will be really upset if I have to sell my tickets...

I've been doing accupuncture on and off, and I do find it makes me less stressed. I'm not really sure when the right times are. The accupuncturist told me to go twice a week. I have an appointment for later today, and then wil go Sunday and/or the day before transfer. I was petrified of needles before I started with IVF, but hey, be get poked and prodded enough, whats a few more needles;) Accupuncture is fairly pain free - my new one thought twists the needles a little and that can hurt for less than a second before settling, and I fall asleep.

Happy Friday everyone!

Hi Ladies
Just a quick one. BFN this morning :( So hoping AF arrives on Sunday, I feel she must be on the way.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Hi All,

GL with your scan babytruj. Hope you get to go to the concert. I saw her last Sat night and she is BRILLIANT!!

Sorry to hear of your BFN, Loops. Big hugs xxx

Lairdoz - here's hoping this blastie is the one!

Chekigal - how are you feeling? Have you had any further updates?

Trueblue - don't stress about the needles. It's amazing how routine it all becomes (although I am a big wuss and DH has to do them for me and I had to go to the Dr's once when he wasn't home)

Hi to everyone else.... I hope you all enjoy your weekend

AFM: Am having a girl's night this weekend which is LONG overdue (I'm talking years!) although I will try to keep it down to only a few beverages. I am about 6-7 weeks off starting a new stim cycle but don't want to jeopardise my egg quality(I feel I am being a bit pedantic - but I tend to walk on eggshells when it comes to all things TTC. Am I being OTT? I need some perspective, I'm not talking binge drinking here but by having 5 or 6 drinks over the course of an afternoon and evening.)

Am also looking forward to my first accupuncture consult on Tues. It's amazing how many of us in this thread are trying acp.

Thanks Juniper I think Ill give it a go then ;) And we will see about DH..he is still trying to get his head around cutting back alcohol and having vitamin supplements LOL

Tantee - honestly hun, I would let your hair down and have a good one. As you said, your next stim cycle is 6- 7weeks away so I don't think one sesh at this point would be too harmful. I hope lots of other girls aren't frowning too hard at me for these thoughts but I don't think 5 -6 drinks is too terrible a thing to do. Hope you have a great night!!
Loops - BOO to BFN, big hugs hunny but I am so glad that you can FINALLY move on
Babytruj - FX for a great scan tomorrow, hope all is looking good for a transfer on Wednesday!!! I tried AP for the first time this cycle and I've gota admit, I was a bit apprehensive but am now a convert and find myself really looking forward to my sessions.
Lairoz - YAY for FET beginning!!! FX that this one is it for you :pray:
Chekigal - welsome to the 2ww, hoping it treats you well with as little stress as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad your ET went well, mine was nasty this time round:shakehead:
Trueblue - honestly sweet, dont stress too much about the needles. I am a self-proclaimed enormous big sooky but even I can handle them. Although I do get DH to do them for me tho. I had to laugh when we did the very first one cos as DH was drawing up the liquid, I just remarked that I was a bit nervous. To which he muttered "don't kno what you've got to be nervous about", as he comes at me brandishing a needle!!!!
Leabie - welcome back and what a haul of eggs :o Hoping you manage to keep OHSS at bay and that you had a great fert report today
Renee - :pray: for that little miracle for you
Albi - welcome and hoping you r stay in here is short and sweet
Kitkat - a big welcome to you too. We were in a similar-ish boat to you and tried for ages before DH actually went and got his fellas checked out. In one way, Ithink that my GP has a lot to answer to because I went to see her A LOT about our fertility issues and it wasn't until I put my foot down about an FS referral that she actually asked for an SA. Sounds like you are off to a flying start and heres hoping all continues to look food for Tuesday
My poor wee brain is feeling a bit fried. I'm doing the 2ww hard this time round so have really just been lurking. 4 more sleeps to go before I am put out of my misery - I'm THE worst company in the world atm and tomorrow is my birthday so will be forced to be sociable. Not in the mood

Melissal - we all know far too well how tough this is but I was just reading in the 2WW about your issues with your BFP test. That makes it more interesting doesn't it! I will really be hoping for you that you join the BFP club as you deserve to be there :) HAPPY BIRTHDAY for tomorrow too!
Tantee - the best thing you can do is relax and NOT think about all this awful TTC stuff. You are more likely to be stressed if you aren't doing things that you can relax and enjoy. Have a great time and it is PERFECTLY normal to feel sensitive about TTC'ing, that's why it's good to experience other things to give you perspective.
Babytruj - Goodluck for the scan on Saturday!
chekigal - Your embies sound pretty good to me, I hope they continue to grow and turn into a nice BFP for you.
Loops12 - sorry it wasn't your month, but you have a nice holiday pretty soon don't you?
Trueblue - the needles really are easy. I found them theraputic if only because it felt like I was doing something and it certainly makes time go past quickly!!
Hi to all the new ladies and everyone I have missed!

AFM- Had a bit of a stress on only day 2 of my cycle as I have 2x day 3 embies and 4 x blasties in the freezer and they wanted to thaw both the day 3 embies, then rethaw one if they both made it to blast. I had no idea what to do, but I was kind of hoping to spend a bit less because the thaw and refreeze was going to cost us $2000 out of pocket which is crazy for a FET given this will be our 5th cycle already this year! So have decided on a blastie transfer but have absolutely no faith after having so many failures already this year.

Hello Ladies,
I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post my question. I want to know if anyone else has had low Hcg and then gone on to be pregnant. I've just finished the 2WW. Because my embryo transfer was on a Saturday my blood test was this Friday (one day early the nurse told me)
Anyway, because I'd done a HPT (I know I wasn't supposed to) which came back positive twice (with a faint line) I was expecting good news but the nurse said it was inconclusive and I should re-test again on Monday.
It seems that my Hcg levels are around 20 when they should be around 100. I'm devastated. I take heart in the fact that I haven't started to bleed yet (but tht could just be the Crinone).
Has anyone else been in this situation? What was the outcome? (I don't just want to hear positive stories)
Thanks
Good luck to you all
Maggie

Hi ladies,

Maggie Hi, that could indicate that you have had a chemical pregnancy or it could just be that one day too soon. I had two results similar to yours and both were chemicals. Don't lose heart but, it is a good sign that something did try to happen or is still happening. GL with it.

GL to all those waiting anxiously in the TWW and those who are part way through their cycles.

Well here it is ........ I did my POAS this morning and OMG:jawdrop: i got a BFP straight away:dance:I can't believe it!!! I am trying to get an appointment with my clinic to get a BT done today just to be sure, but there are no drugs which can cause a false positive this time. I don't know what to feel it has been two long years since we began trying and to end up falling naturally is a huge shock. I will keep you all posted.

Hi lovely ladies

Firstly...

Renee - OMG!!! :clap: CONGRATULATIONS sweetie! :dance: Sooo happy for your excellent news! Hope the BT brings lovely high numbers. How funny, that it ended up being on a natural cycle :)

Marcellus - thanks for your advice too. We've had a long chat with the embryologist, and decided to go for broke this cycle and grow them all out to day 5. If that doesn't work, next stim cycle we'll try some day 3s.

Loops - I'm so sorry to hear your news hun. Be kind to yourself, and have a wonderful time on your holiday, decompress and get stuck into that beautiful Tassie cheese and wine!

Chekigal - hope your feeling good and FX that the little embie is burrowing in nicely!

Albi - go the acupuncture - its great! I'm convinced that my acupuncturist is helping keep OHSS at bay for me, I love her. Doing it to grow strong eggies, then before and after transfer. The way I look at it is, I'll throw everything I can at this TTC thing! No regrets.

Babytruj - hope the scan today goes well and your transfer is next WEDNESDAY!

Tantee - have a great girls night. Me personally, I'd be having a few bevvies! We've got to stay somewhat sane in this crazy ride, don't we?!

Melissal - HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Hope you have a great day, only 3 more sleeps to go. Hang in there. Thanks for your kind words - OHSS is still lurking, but I'm doing much better than I should be, apparently!

HI to anyone I've missed! Gotta fly, got a girlfriend coming over for morning tea. Have a great long weekend!

Good morning,

OMG Renee!!! How wonderful. What a great surprise. I hope you can get in for your BT ASAP. You must be in shock!!

Leabie - Enjoy your morning tea. It is great to have some time out. I hope you manage to keep your OHSS at bay.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Melissal - Have a good day. I'm sorry that this month is so agonising for you. I hope the next couple of days are kind to you and you get a wonderful belated birthday gift. Some months are just harder than others aren't they?

Lairdoz - I think the blastie plan sounds good. You have had such a full on year already and it's only April. My fingers are crossed for you that this will be the last cycle you need for a long time.

Maggie - I'm sorry, but I am not much use to you as I have not had a BFP but I have heard that even a lower level can result in a healthy preg as long as the numbers are doubling and cathch up. Good luck on Monday, I hope your results are clearer for you.

Hope all you other ladies are doing well and have some fun stuff planned for the long weekend and take some time out from this crazy TTC world.
GL to those of you in the 2WW.

AFM: Think I will chill out and have a few bevvies with the girls tonight (thanks for the perspective ladies) -nothing crazy, but just relax and hang out with no distractions.

Hi Ladies,

I hope you are all having a good day and enjoying the long weekend. Maggie, I will be keeping my fingers crossed for you :pray:, and it is fabulous to hear of your BFP, Renee!

AFM, I had my 2nd scan yesterday. The doc has now seen 8 good-sized follies, including 3 (from memory) in the 20-22mm range. We are set to trigger tomorrow evening for EPU on Tuesday. Unfortunately, he also told me that estradiol levels were a lot lower than he would have expected for the # of follicles he's seeing (2970 at Day 7 of stims). He said that he would usually only expect 3-4 eggs from that level. So now I'm wondering if half of my follicles are empty, or if perhaps I'm just somebody whose eggs produce less estrogen than other people. I'd love to hear if any of you were in a similar position and what the outcome was as far as # of eggs produced at pick up.

Thanks everyone, and wishing you all good luck wherever you are in your cycle!

KitKat72

Hi all

Just a quick note to say BT confirmed BFP:dance:I can't believe it yet, still in shock!!!

Congrats Renee :hooray:

Renee, congratulations!! :confetti:

Maggie, I'm sorry to hear your hcg level was low. I went through a similar situation, but unfortunately mine ended in a chem pg. However, I spent a lot of time reading and it seems that it is certainly possible to go on to have a healthy pg after a low starting hcg. Monday's test will give you a better indication. If the levels are rising appropriately (doubling time of 24-48 hours) then that will be a great sign. My levels rose more slowly (doubling time of 72 hours) before finally dropping.

Melissal, happy birthday!! :happybirthday:

Wow! So many stories!!
It's great to hear so many stories from people who are going through the same as me. Makes me feel a lot less crazy for how I'm feeling!

Congrats to everyone who has had a BFP! Hearing those stories gives me a lot of hope.

KitKat- Asking about follicles? At my last US, my doc wrote on my chart that I had 10 follicles, 7 on my right and 3 on my left. Unfortunately at EPU they only managed to get two good eggs. I have fingers crossed for you that you do better than me. But like I keep telling myself- It only takes one.

I'm currently day 9 into my 2WW and I was doing pretty well until today. I've had a bad day today, feeling really down and starting to think that it hasn't worked. I've been really positive until now but finding this tough. I know that the feeling is probably just a side effect from the Crinone but that doesn't really help me pull myself out of it. I think I just need to give myself a big shake and stop being so stupid.

I'm finding the waiting really hard, harder than I thought it would be. I'm so scared that it won't work. I can't stand the thought of letting my husband down. He wants this so badly. ahhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anyway- sorry for the rant but I guess I needed a little release. I would love a big bourbon right now!!;)

Congratulations Renee - Wishing you a healthy and happy pregnancy! I am so happy to see some BFP's in here after so long without any. I have you are really enjoying this experience as you deserve it :clap::clap::clap:

Maggie - I have had three chemicals and at 20 it may be more likely a chemical than not, but it also might be a viable pregnancy which you can't tell until you have your next BT. Either way, it shows you that something happened and that can be a positive step in getting to your BFP.

glenny_c - I am sorry you aren't feeling so great today. I think it's human nature that we have our ups and downs on this crazy TTC path, but I hope you find strength knowing that you are completely normal feeling up and down. You won't be letting your husband down, so don't even think about that, I am sure he would never want you to feel that way. It's a tough gig this rollercoaster, but it's worth it in the end. I hope for you that this is also your month to get a nice BFP too!

KitKat72 - Sorry I can't help as I never really listened to the follicle counts, I knew there was nothing I could do about them. If it helps, my cousin only ended up with two eggs from 8 follices, one went to blast and is now her daughter.

Tantee - Hope you are enjoying some bevvies!

Hello to everyone else, hope you are enjoying a long weekend and getting to some Anzac Day events

Well I am back after my last failed IUI DF and I are finally doing our first IVF I am currently on cd8 been on syranal since cd2 nasty stuff it is, was doing 450 gonal f and 50 pregnyl every second day as well as 2 metformin twice a day, so I think I have the sniffing, injecting and ingesting all down to a fine art now. Had my first scan and BT today E2 was 11,000 and they were a total of 20 follicles that were big enough and another 30 that were undersize, so FS has dropped me back to 225 gonal f with another BT and Scan on Monday with possible EPU wed so keeping fingers crossed that all goes well.
Sorry no personals will catch up with everyone when have more time and news.
Good luck ladies and bring on the BFPs