Trying to Conceive After Miscarriage or Loss May/June 2010

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Just a quicky, not sure if AF is really here, very light and coming and going grr.
Will be on later or tomorrow morning to catch up properly :)

forshelby - sorry didn't mean to make you question more but praying that it's all for a good reason hehe ;)

possum - how are you travelling??

damprye - hope AF makes up her mind whether she's coming or going

AFM: very crampy last nite and this morn....did get 1 round of bding after i chucked the craps at DF. Told him I was going to bed at 9ish hint hint he said he'll be in soon!! 2.5 hrs later :o :o was not impressed as i was in a nice comfy asleep grrr

Ooh, new thread. :)

Possum - When is AF due for you? looks like you me and Reet are almost cycle buddies. :D I know it's hard to hold off testing. I think I'm finding it relatively easy right now because I keep flip flopping on my symptoms. I feel fine for a few hours, then crap, then fine... so I'm still very undecided. Anything interesting happening in your camp? lol. I like to compare and read till my eyes feel raw.

Damprye - OMG! Test again in a few days, maybe? Sounds really interesting that you still aren't full flow. i don't know about you, but I usually start properly within 24 hours of the first 'pink'. I call it pinking. LOL

Iona - I could have written that myself. I find just saying I'm going to bed isn't enough of a hint for DP. Usually I have to be kind of blunt if I want to DTD. I find physical cues are the easiest. I don't think I need to explain there. hehehe.... glad you still got a round in though, good luck!!

AFM, Crampiness is starting again, and I feel kind of heavy. A little constipated too, and vague on and off tingling in my boobs. One thing I did find noticeable last night was that my nipples seem different. It's hard to describe, but the little bump things seem more obvious, and I swear my areolas are bigger. Also, around the bottom edge seemed a bit weird. Almost... raised and puffy? But just the edges around the bottom. 6dpo today. I find all these 'symptoms' really vague and confusing, and it's very possible I'm just experiencing weirdness after stopping bcp :rolleyes:. Still not convinced of any of this stuff, but thought I would share, just in case.

Hi to everyone else, and I'm sorry if I missed a few. Let's hope this thread is as action packed as the last one!

Kit- Hope you and your lil tiger are doing well.

Dory- I am so glad that your fur baby is doing well and yes totally understandable. Week 23... wow :dance:

Murray- Having you here gives me hope along with everyone else with stickies ; )

Millyd- Before the site upgrade you could click on add attachment but that is no longer an option so there is only adding it to photobucket that I know of. Congrats on it getting darker and sending you lots of sticky dust and :pray: that it is third time lucky.

Hubba_bubba07- Congrats on being into the second trimester, I bet it is a relief : )

TTCALoveChild- Yes definately a lot of pages lol. I hope all goes to plan : )

Reet- Glad to hear thet DH is getting serious and I am dying to know what the result is :D

T-hopes- hi girls - I hope all goes well and that you can TTC again real soon.

Possum- Hope all is going well : )

Iona Macca- Guys can be a lil thick at times lol. The cramping sounds promising, yet another sign of O : ) Sending out plenty of baby dust your way

Forshelby- I am stalking for Saturday ;) The signs are looking good at least even if early. When I fell pg with DS it was on day 7 of my cycle so perhaps you O'd early : D

AFM- AF has turned "old" so I have no idea what is going on and still not heavy enough to even wear a liner. Still have that weird sensation down there and was feeling rather naucious earlier and very headachey yesterday, possibly all that was just because of "AF". Normally when I get AF it starts off as a morning warning... gives me just enough time to get to the toilet after waking and then I have to go straight onto using "super" pads. This time is so not like me. I wish my body would get back in tune already :rolleyes:

Hi Damprye,

I don't think I O'd early, because of the +OPKs on cd 14,15 and 16. Plus that was when I had EWCM. We didn't really bd much before O time, and even then we only snuck 2 rounds in (one 3 days before O and one on O day, from memory). Pretty sure my O day was accurate give or take a day. As for your weird AF, I really think you should test again tomorrow or the next day. If it's unusual to be so light, I would be running for the HPT. A friend of mine had a fake period twice in her first trimester, so there's still hope for you, I think. If not, maybe you're just lucky not to suffer the usual crimson wave this month? lol This stuff is so confusing!

Damprye - I would test - when I fell pregnant in january I had 2 days of spotting thinking that AF was on her way and then nothing...took me a couple of days before I did a test!! FX that it is all that we are hoping it is xoxox

I think that it may just be my body trying to get back on track after last month. I just don't *feel* pregnant, not yet. It is just really annoying me that everything is not normal. I am just really hoping that I still O on time and that this AF kicks in properly and doesn't bugger up TTC for June. I should be able to do some BDing from the 6th till the 13th so FX that my body does get "in tune for June."

Hello All!

Possum- OMG i think we're in the same boat.. i am SO freaked out to test! i so dont think i cld handle seeing a bfn.. ive never felt so scared to do one.. im not sure why i am this time.. Good luck with urs!

Iona macca- I hope u caught that eggy!!! Dont u wish sometimes u didnt need a man to impregnate u.. it wld be so much more simpler if u cld do it all by urself.. no waiting for them to come to bed.. etc. haha :)

Forshelby- Oh ur symptoms do sound promising! i cant wait til u can test!! yay!!! lets hope ur next few days go quick! Now u just have to wait to see that implantation bleeding!! about 5-8 days after ovulation i was checking every time i wiped looking for blood.. it never came.. haha.. i am so turning into a crazy person!!

Damprye- Arent female bodies just so bloody frustrating!!! oh i hope urs is being all weird cos ur UTD! when did u last test?? And if ur not UTD then i hope ur body is in fine form ready to get in tune for june!!!

AFM- Well still waiting for af to arrive.. day 32 today.. im getting so scared.. theres a big chance the clomid didnt work i guess which means i didnt 'o' so af wont come.. but i so so so hope thats NOT the case! omg omg omg.. this is so so so stressful.. DH leaves tomoro for work.. i think he wld have liked me to do test so if i am pg he cld get excited at seeing the line.. but i just cant do it.. i wldnt be able to handle seeing him get upset.. i can handle things much better on my own. but omg omg omg.. this is doing my head in!! i keep thinking af is coming.. i keep getting random little cramps.. i do remember getting them when i was last pg.. i was always saying to dh.. nope not pg.. af is on its way.. but she never came.. oh i hope that happens this time!! Ash Grunwald concert is on next weekend and i wld love to go.. so if af hasnt arrived by then i will test.. cos if im not pg then i will defintely be drowning my sorrows with a few alcoholic beverages! I think i might test wed tho.. surely af shldnt come any later then day 35 if its going to come..
Im so sorry ladies for this craziness.. but i think i am going CRAZY!!! :) xxx

well hello lovely women, lots to catch up on after a few days away, makes me smile though to see you all in here, giving each other lots of love and support x

MatthewsMum - sending you a hug for Matthew's anniversary and hoping that your FET will bring you much longed for joy. Glad your flu is finally lifting - you've had a hard time of things of late, time for some sunshine for you x

Kit - so sorry to read that you have lost Tiger's twin...but also glad that Tiger is doing so well and that's lovely news of a good strong heartbeat - big hugs to you, thanks for asking after me x

T-hopes - you poor thing, I did that prep and it's bloody awful - you will have discovered that for yourself by the time you read this so I'm sort of glad you won't read it before hand. Eeek. Anyway, I just wanted to wish you all the best for tomorrow and hope the lap goes smoothly and you are back on your feet soon. I'm sorry it is nearly a year since you conceived your little one - I hope you'll be getting your BFP very soon x

Dory - congratulations on 23 weeks! Each milestone that passes is a testament to your strength and courage and love. Lots of love to you and glad your kitty is home and on the mend and getting lots of love. I've just had 24hrs in Melbourne for my niece's 1st birthday and stayed with my brother who has two cats - one is a Main Coon (spelling? She looks like a snow cat - soo beautiful) and the other is a little moggy with one eye who I adore. They both decided to do speed laps around my bed this morning so I'm starting to feel a bit deliriously tired! I got a few cuddles too so happy with my little trip away.

MurryCod - can't wait to hear about your test tomorrow and so thrilled that line is getting darker clever girl!! I know you will feel like moving on at some point - it'll be lovely to be around others going through the same thing and sharing all that excitement and I can't speak for the others but I want all of you lovely BFPers to stay for as long as you like so we can keep sharing the excitement of your pg but also to just be here for you on the days when it all feels a bit scary. Same goes for you Kit x Oh and about your friend, I was thinking that maybe when you tell her, you could say that while you know she'll be excited for you because you really care about each other you also know she'll feel sad so if she needs to express that and you are OK with it and she feels safe with you, she can. Maybe hinting in advance helps too, like someone else said - even by text 'cause that'll give her time and space to prepare for the news. I'm so sad for her - and for you that you weren't able to share being pg together like you were so hoping for, and I hope she has a miracle soon so you can

Crafty - bring on June 17th!! I must have missed an earlier post but a few girls mentioned you're going to try giving up chocolate and caffeine - good on you!! It really makes a huge difference, especially for ovulating and it's hard to start with but gets easier. I can't recommend strongly enough having your main meal at lunch to help with sugar/coffee cravings. I know that's probably logistically difficult with a family to feed too but it has made a huge difference for me. Anyway - you won't be doing it for long 'cause you and Ferrals are our next BFPs!! x

Foreshelby - or will it be you?! Those symptoms sound so promising!! Fingers crossed xx when are you testing??

MillyD - understand the need to retreat for a bit and congratulations on your BFP - lovely news. Hope all goes well for you for a happy and healthy pg.

Reet - maybe you too? Fingers crossed. The thing with the men is, they don't have to do so much they just don't think about it like we do. After all the years and all the things DH has seen me go through, we still have those moments too! Glad you've made up and hope the sperm test comes back all good. Oh and glad your puppy is on the mend.

hubba_bubba - hello! long time since I've seen your name here hope all is well with you

Iona - so are you in the TWW now? Hope you had a good trip away and hope you caught that egg!

Damprye - so frustrating waiting for our bodies to get back to normal - hope it's not too much longer but agree with the others maybe test?

TTCaLC - lovely to have news about your busy household and good luck TTC this month - home schooling too?! You're amazing. xx

I know I've missed some of you so sorry about that - Possums, Saffy, and anyone else - love to you all.

AFM, tired from my trip so off to bed. Enjoyed my little niece's birthday but need to sleep now.

Alice x

Reet- My fingers and toes are crossed for you :D when I was UTD last time I was absolutely petrified of testing lol

Alice- I am glad you enjoyed getting to see our nephew :)

AFM- I can't remember when it was I last tested lol, I think it was a couple of days after I was late but I got a :BFN: but that is normal for me whether I am or not UTD so I think I will just leave that for now and see how it goes. Earlier tonight I had a single clot and now AF seems to have completely disappeared so who knows what is going on there, ah well I will just have to wait and see if she comes back tomorrow.

forshelby - what are your symptoms today???

damprye - hoping your body sorts itself out and either AF comes or you get that BFP

Reet - OMG, you are going to keep us in suspense until the weekend!!!

Alice - so glad that you had a lovely time at your niece's birthday

Hi to everyone else and happy monday. It was so cold this morning didn't want to get out of bed lol

AFM: FF has put me as 1DPO going off my OPK's...we did get a round in last night as well so FX that we caught this egg!! Was a lil put out last night, got an email from DF's friend's girlfriend who is pregnant and due 5 days after lil one was due....had heaps going through my head, like why wait 3 months for you to write this email etc and your not my friend, don't give me your pity!! I know it seems harsh but I didn't need and when I do see them I don't make a deal about anything I just go about my business....umph I think it was more about getting on my nerves that I feel this way - oh well

talk to you girls later - have my last day of classes for the uni sem today - time to get into study mode as well
xoxox

hi everyone,thanks ladies for your kind words & thoughts,thinking of you all

MurrayCod - How are you feeling my love? How are you? I am thinking of you. Waiting to hear from you?

MillyD- Congrats for the BFP. Wish you H&H pregnancy.

Crafty - New cycle = new thread = New month = its needs a BFP. C'mon Crafty- its your turn now, hope you are charging yourself for the big O-day. ALL THE BEST.

T-hope - Goodluck for procedure, Hope everything goes well and your recover soon and start ttc again. xxx
Anita - How are u? all the best for this cycle sweetheart. You are too busy, where do you store all that energy.
Mathew's Mum - thinking of you xx

Kit - how are you? hows ur Tiger, hope things are good now. take care

Hi ladies, I hope everyone is well.

Alice - I'm testing on either the 5th or 12th. Depends on how I feel. It's all pretty nerve racking!

Iona - I love that you're asking about my symptoms. You're a good stalker! lol. So far pretty much the same, although yesterday I had a few new ones. I'll post them below. But first, I'm sorry about the email you received. The frustration is understandable. I would have felt the same, I think. Maybe she didn't know what to say and just wanted to say something? I don't know. People act strangely when they don't know how to deal with someone elses pain.

Reet - Test, girl test! That goes for you too, Damprye!!! lol. If you wait until the weekend we could be testing together. :) Do you have any symptoms? I feel like I've listed everything in the book so far. I'll look like a right goose if af arrives. LOL. Guess I'll have to put it down to post bcp weirdness. I don't know. Good luck, anyway, and I REALLY hope you get your BFP. :)

AFM, here are my long awaited 'symptoms' for Kit, and my new stalker, Iona. hehehe
-TMI WARNING: a little constipated this morning
-still creamy/watery cm though not a crazily large amount.
-sciatica on and off
-mild nausea when in the car again, and walking around a shopping centre
-couple of pimples, which isn't unheard of for me, but seems a bit early
-still having random boob twinges and crampy tummy
-lower back pain, still. Really strong this afternoon
-hungry for carbs. more specifically, salt and vinegar chips.
but the most interesting of all is those little white bumps around my areola. There are LOTS more today, it's almost like there's a puffy line of them right around both my areolas. Weird. I do remember having them when I was pg last time, but don't know when I noticed them. I'm not sure if they were so 'edge like' either. But yes, definitely a puffy edge thing going on. I think this might be the one that convinces me if it continues. What do you think? I know I can't will myself to have little bumps on my nipples. If I can, WOW I have super powers. :D Also, the only time I've noticed these bumps increasing is when I was pg.

Still not totally convinced, but feeling a little more confident as time goes on. I wonder if I don't have enough symptoms though, but last time I didn't feel strange until a few days before my period was due. Still feeling a bit of disbelief that I could be so lucky as to fall pg on the first try. It seems really unfair, actually. Honestly, I would feel really guilty for rubbing it in, so to speak, if I am indeed pg. Ok, that's enough obsessing for today. lmao.........

Hi to anyone else I missed, and good luck to everyone in their BD bonanzas and TWW's.

oh forshelby....i am praying that af doesn't show - those symptoms sound so promising!!! I've been waiting for your reply all day hehehe

Oh a new thread yay.

Lol, Iona.... that's very flattering that you were waiting for my next post. I'm still worried I'll feel like an idiot when af shows :redface:. If af shows. I forgot a couple of things earlier, too. So, to tide you over until tomorrow.....

-smells bothering me (my chicken kiev smelled dirty..... don't ask me how, just dirty), could also smell petrol which had leaked in the garage from the other end of the house. DP said he couldn't.
-feeling sick after a meal
-lightheaded even when sitting down at my desk today, feel kind of off-balance
-TIRED. (maybe just lazy?)

I'm trying so hard not to get my hopes up, but I have this feeling I'm pg that I can't shake. Just like last time. Every day that passes I feel more hopeful. Once again, could I REALLY be feeling like this so early? Can somebody please just tell me I'm not this lucky, and supply a pill of the chill variety?? :D lol

I wonder if I took an OPK what would show up. If I'm PG would it be +? It should be - at this stage of my cycle. Now I'm curious.

Sorry, a lot of me-ness going on lately. Will behave for the next few days, I promise.

Ok I am going to test in the morning.. i am so so so scared.. i just cant wait any longer though.. its all i am thinking about. I may as well find out and then obsess over being pg or not pg! Im just dreading if im not pg all the blood tests and gyno appointments im going to have to go thru to find out where my hormone levels are at and why af isnt coming. I have realised I absolutely HATE hpts!!!! oh i wish i lived 50 yrs ago when they didnt exist.. things wld be so much more simple.
Forshelby, OMG ur symptoms are so good!! i have never heard about ur areola thing which is going on.. i just went and looked at mine and they're no different! :( the only thing i have noticed is a LOT of creamy cm.. and slight cramping. The cm cld be a result of anything tho i guess.. my hormone levels cld be out of whack and causing it. Oh i hope not tho. I was so positive last week.. i dont know where its all gone! maybe my gut instinct is telling me im not pg.. who knows.. i will tomoro tho i guess! Wish me luck! Eeeeeeeek!

Alice: lovely to hear from you. What a beautiful post you did for everyone. Glad you had fun on your break with your niece and the two cats. I had great visions of the two moggys running around the room.
Reet: Good luck for test in the morning. I reeeeeely hope it's a BFP.
Forshelby: Don't worry, you don't have to be embarrassed in AF shows. You will join a long list of us who have been fooled before by AF symptoms that feel like pg symptoms! But i hope your nipple bumps cannot be wrong!
Damprye: Hi. Will you test again soon? Has your cycle been acting up for long?
THopes: thinking of you. Hoping you are resting up after your test and all went well.

Porsche: good to hear from you. How's it going?
Saffy: It's been a while. I hope you are ok. You seemed to be having a hard time last time you posted.
Sunbeam: You haven't posted in a while either. Was thinking about you this week and hoping all is well.

AFM: I'm still holding strong. I don't want to test before AF is due cos i'm scared of seeing a BFN... or seeing a BFP that disappears soon after. I'm making myself run to the toilet and pee quickly first thing in the morning so i can't be tempted. (Whose trick was that? Was it you Murray Cod?) I've had little 'niggles' (cramping) on and off for a few days but very mild. Also some sore boobs... but i've been down this path before and it just let to AF. So i'm driving myself nuts thinking 'i am...no i'm not...but maybe i am!' Keeping distracted with work and DD who hurt her foot this week.

Hey Possum- thanks for thinking about me!
I have indeed been MIA but I am fine, I actually broke my computer and it is going to cost a fair bit to fix so am waiting a few weeks to save up for it. Between DH hogging his computer and being quite busy I have just had time to read but not post ( although did a sneaky one in LTTTC after miscarriage for our friend murrycod when she got her two lines!) Sooo hope to get back into the groove soon, still lurking tho! (esp when on nightshift tonight and it is quiet!)

ATM I am waiting for IVF to send my paperwork back and then we can get going, hoping all this will happen before my next AF but that might be pushing it cos my FS only comes down where I live every fortnight, if not I will have to wait another month ( by which time I will be 38 if you don't mind!)

Sorry this is a self centred post but I have been watching everyone when I can and just wanted to let you know I haven't vanished into thin air, good luck to all you girls with promising symptoms, esp you Reet I hope you get a nice surprise in the morning!! I'm only 4 days post O so nothing to report here of course. Possum you should wait til AF is due then you will be proud of yourself!! The sore boobs are annoying I always get them and spend weeks pressing them to see if they are getting sorer- which of course they are -from my pressing!!
Anyway, good luck to all testing soon and I will try and post as often as I can xx

Iona- heres hoping you caught that eggy :)


Forshelby- I wont be testing, I'm kinda too scared instead I'll just go with the flow, I am taking m/v just in case and to help prepare for when I do. I have a few symptoms, mainly that others are pointing out lol. I LOVE McNuggets dipped in soft serve icecream atm lol.
Do not feel silly *if* AF shows up, I am sure many of us have been in the same boat before.
I'd say try the OPK ;) there have been reports that it has shown pregnancy before actual HPT but even so it is still not always a + before the HPT is so do not gfo on this as a *real* basis.
The me-ness is fine, I am a bit like that atm lol.

AFM- Well AF is still coming and going but I will just have to put up with it and move on, it should be fully finished between tomorrow and Thursday so what happens will happen. I am starting to track my BBT now and back on my "diet."

I have a bit of a catch up to do, so I have some old persies:

MurrayCod, Dory and Millyd Congratulations to all!! :-)

Kit I'm sorry you lost the twin :-( That's really sad. The silver lining is that you now know why you were bleeding, and thankfully Tiger's HB is strong and your H levels are great!

Reet :crossfingers: for a BFP for you this morning!

T-Hopes I hope your bowel prep went well yesterday

Forshelby those symptoms do sound very promising!! :crossfingers: for you too!

Sending baby dust to everyone on the TWW!!!

AFM I am *still* waiting for AF. It's been 8 1/2 weeks now and I'm going a bit nuts. I've gone 3 HPTs all BFNs, so def not preg. I'm about to go and see my Dr to get the referral.

I had a bit of a breakdown Sat night while visiting a friend. Another friend gave birth Friday, so I spent the morning buying materials to back the cot quilt panel I bought her ages ago - same time I bought myself one. I decided I wasn't going to sit at home alone and sook, so went to a friends house to watch movies and play video games. I was doing so well until he told me one of the guy's at work wife was preg again. I instantly burst in to tears lol. It was kinda funny to see him try to comfort me while I was sobbing. Poor guy lol.

I think I'm just very frustrated that it's taking more time than I expected, and I was feeling like I'm going to have another 5yr wait before I get another BFP. I'm sure it will be fine. I'm sure I will be "Swooning in June" ;)

Oh MsKara I am so sorry to hear that, I know how horrible that extra long wait is especially when you get so many bfns. I hope your body gets back into the swing of things soon or that there really is a lil emby hiding in there.

Kit – how are you and tiger going?? Hope all is well

MsKara – hugs sweety, I know hearing about people’s pregnancies is hard. Out of all my close friends, there is only one that isn’t pregnant!! She is the one that I have been hanging out with most, as I don’t handle seeing any of the others except my bestie who has 3 weeks to go but was trying for 2 years and was about to take the IVF route when she found out she was pregnant!!

Reet – how did you go this morning?? Hoping it’s what we have suspected!!

Forshelby – oh sense of smell – that’s a good one to. I had that with Luke. What about your taste, with the pregnancy in Jan – everything tasted like metal a week out (10 days before I tested)

t-hopes – hope your recovering well from your lap

Murraycod – how are things going sweety

Damprye – good luck this cycle!!

Saffy – hi sweety, glad you are still around!!

Possum – FX that this is your cycle, when are you testing??

AFM – nothing to report, I just like checking up on everyone else heheh

Hey everyone!

Everything is going well here, had a 20c piece size glob of brown blood on sunday, but absolutely nothing since then, and no cramping, so not too worried. I figure it's something to do with Twin? Just hanging out for 12 weeks really, morning sickness is quite bad (Hurrah!) and I've had to develop a new way of sleeping with a pillow between my boobs so neither one of them actually touches the bed (I tend to sleep tummy down) cos otherwise they ache and wake me up. But, I love it! It's so much sweeter this time around, I hear women complain about morning sickness and I still wanna slap them and yell ''be grateful!'' So that part of me hasn't faded, lol. I can't wait for you guys to experience this again. You will, I have faith :)

I wanna ask something though, I told my friend (the one who's also TTC) bout Tiger, and her voice was soo flat, and I could hear a catch in her voice, she got off the phone pretty quick. So I texted and said it was ok to be happy for me and sad for herself at the same time, that I understood that it was hard news to hear. She wrote back and said she was really really happy for me and she didn't know what I was talking about. So, umm, I'm not sure I believe her? I'm just gonna give her some time. What do you guys think?

Reet: Hurry up!!! What's the news?

MsKara: Oof, 2 so close together! That is hard. I'm glad your friend tried to comfort you, that sounds sweet.

Forshelby: Sense of smell is a big one, don't feel silly if it's not the result you want, it still means that your hormones are doing what they need to do, they're producing progesterone to help an emby, so if it's not this month, then it's some damn good practice and next month is the one! (I hope it's this one though, lol)

Dampyre: GL babe! Diet and BBT testing is awesome, knowledge is power!

Possum magic: Ah the running to the bathroom, lol. Very good plan! I hope your DD is doing ok, good luck with the distractions and I hope a BFP is just around the corner!

Saffy: I hope your IVF stuff gets on track super quick! Fingers crossed for a quick and sticky BFP!

T-hopes: How you doing sweet? I hope your resting up xo

Iona: Your in the TWW! In all it's psychotic glory! Hope this is the one for you babe.

Has anyone heard from Murraycod bout her beta's yet? I'm starting to get a little worried...

I'm gonna go eat yoghurt, meant to be revising for exams, but sleep just sounds so good. I've also found that not only is twilight good for TWW and the such, but it's also very good when your bleeding/cramping and trying not to hyperventilate with fear. There's nothing Edward and Jacob can't fix.

Love to everyone! xo

Kit - so good to hear from you, and glad the morning sickness is sticking round... tell me about revising, I should be getting into study mode but so don't feel like, my first exam isn't until 17th june but then i have one on the 21 and then 22nd so not long in between!!

No haven't heard from murraycod, been stalking the other thread and here waiting to hear from her. Hope all is ok!!

Forshelby - sounds promising. I have everything crossed! The combination of those symptoms does sound promising indeed.

Alice - thanks for asking after me and sending me such encouragement. I need it to be sure. I feel the burden of responsiblity to do everything I can to ensure bubs stays safe and snugly for as long as possible. Every day after 24 weeks means a greater chance of survival if born prem. 40% now, but rises with every day spent snugly. And thankyou for asking about my darling fur babies. Just about the make an appointment for number 2 to have a tooth extracted.... I spent 4 1/2 hours asleep during the day yesterday, with 3 snugly cats for company. So so rewarding.

Murray - how did you go yesterday?

Mathew's Mum - glad you are feeling better, and hugs for your special day.

Thopes - thinking of you today.... hope it goes well and you recover quickly. Big hugs.

Hi to everyone else. Just a short note from me today. I follow your journey's still, just don't always post.... so does that mean I am a stalker? Hugs to all.

Hi Everyone..
Thankyou for wishing me luck etc.. sadly it was a bfn... i am so f***ing frustrated. I got up at 6am stumbled my way to the toilet.. realised it was a negative.. made myself go back to sleep for a couple hrs.. it wasnt the best sleep tho. Last nite before i went to bed i told myself that if i dreamt of the outcome being a neg or pos. thats what i wld wake up and see.. the crazy thing is I woke up from a dream from the excitement of ringing dh and telling him i cld see 2 lines on test.. it was such a clear dream. I was so sure there wld be 2 lines. I wasnt really upset this morning, i think its hitting me now tho.. ive worked all morning so that kept my mind off it.. until dh rang me.. that made me a bit sad telling him, he was alright tho, i said to him.. i hope u dont mind me going to concert on sat nite without u (hes working away at moment) i need to have some fun! and hes like 'go for it my darling, u deserve it ' :) I was thinking that if this happened i wldnt go to gyno or anything and just let body do what it wants.. but now that im going thru it I just cant do it.. i booked a gyno appointment for tomoro arvo, even if its just to get blood tests done to check hormone levels.. i think my progesterone levels must be too low. Im thinking instead of taking clomid im going to go to health shop and get them to give me all the natural things, like vitex etc. What do u guys think??? try natural for a while or stick with provera to bring af on and then clomid to help me to 'o'..even tho it didnt obviously work.
GRRRRRRRR... everytime something like this happens its like saying goodbye to a dream.. i had started thinking i had a 5 week old baby growing inside me.. i think thats why i didnt want to test yet.. cos with each day that goes the more pg i am anyway.. it wldnt seem like such a long time to get to 12 week scan! Sadly thats not the case tho.
Anyway enough of my stuff, sorry no persies, i just dont have a very positive outlook on things at the moment.
Oh but mskara, defintely go to drs as soon as u can.. i waited 10 weeks after mc with no af, the gyno said 8 weeks is ok to wait but anything over that isnt right. I had to take provera to bring af on and then clomid to 'o'.. altho it all failed miserably anyway!! Good luck babe.

Reet - so sorry for your disappointment. Keep strng girl, but do take time to grieve this cycle. Hope you get a clearer picture of what's going on after your BT's.

Oh Reet, so sorry to hear about the BFN sending you heaps of hugs

hi all,reet-sorry it turned out to be a bfn...murraycod-we're all anxiously looking for your post..

Big hugs Reet. It's never easy seeing those single lines. Sucks big time!

Oh Reet I'm so sorry, I had 5-6 week cycles after Splat, then I was on Maca for 4 weeks and I know it was a 30 day cycle. Try Maca, it could work. Hugs darling xo

Reet - Sorry to hear about the BFN. I was convinced this was it for you. :( Big hugs, sweetie. I don't have any experience with fertility drugs, sorry. How long have you been trying au naturele? I hope you enjoy your concert and get some much needed you time.

Possum - Thanks for the encouragement, I'll be so disappointed if af shows. When is AF due for you? I definitely kwym about flip flopping between am I or aren't I? I change my mind every 10 minutes, lol

Saffy - I hope you don't have to wait another month to see your FS. Good to see you're still floating around the thread :)

Damprye - Nuggets and icecream sound great! I think a bit of sweet and sour sauce wouldn't go astray though.... lol. I don't mind the odd shake with fries dipped in. You should try it :) Let us know if you cave in and test though, I'm hoping for a BFP for you!

MsKara - Thanks for the baby dust. Sounds like you have a lovely friend to comfort you like that. And a guy! 10 points to him for that! With any luck you won't have to wait another 5 years. FX for you. I also like 'swooning in June'. Great rhyme hehe

Iona - No metal mouth so far, but I've had a few 'this tastes wrong' moments. My hot chocolate tasted savoury this afternoon... so gross, I said to a workmate 'ACK, IT'S POISON!' lol Not sure what it was all about, but I sure got a good laugh out of it. My symptoms will be at the bottom for you.. hehehe. Hope your TWW flies!

Kit - So glad your boobies hurt and you feel sick. Great signs. Thanks for the encouragement you've given us all, you're a special lady. I think your friend is definitely a little sad for herself, but trying to hide it so as not to put a damper on your joy. Give her time to process it all. We all know how hard it is to hear such news.

Dory - Thanks for your input, and I think it's great you're stalking us. :) Stick around!

AFM- had an interesting day today symptom wise. Here they are in list form for your convenience. lol
-nausea this morning. Thought I might actually be sick, but it passed. Also woke up feeling gross in the middle of the night.
- Boobs hurting more! and tingling again. Feeling heavy but not looking swollen as far as I can tell
- bumps aruond nipples hanging around, looking the same as before.
- goosebumps on my boobs which don't seem to go away? Noticed that one this afternoon.
- smells still strong. struggling with the B.O of one of my co-workers today, lol
- face feels hot, had a couple of hot flashes during the day
- back still sore
- AF cramps. Felt JUST like when AF first starts. checked, and nope, no af.
- increasing cm.... yay
So that's about all I can think of at the moment. I sniffed out 2 co-workers lunches from at least 10 metres today, lol. A pie, and some cheezels. They were impressed, lol. I'm starting to feel like this really might be it. I convinced myself not to buy any OPKs because they can be misleading.... but when I went to get some stuff for dinner, found myself buying them anyway. I have no self control! I used one a few minutes ago, and it was definitely negative. Not sure what to make of that. I've decided to disregard it since it's late in the day. Now I've got 2 HPTS in my arsenal though, so I'm glad if I cave, I'll have one left. I really don't want to see a bfn though, so at this stage, I'll be testing sometime after AF is due. I don't think I'll make it till the 12th, though! Looks like I'll have a very unproductive working week if I get my BFP on Monday morning, which is cd29 for me. I'm going to assume for now I'll be back to my old normal 28 day cycles. That would be exactly 14dpo, so I don't think Monday is too soon.

Sorry I broke my promise and got all excited again, :D. I'm so naughty.

Forshelby - sounding very promising there! You've got me convinced - fingers crossed for you x

Reet - sorry for your BFN :( concert sounds like good therapy. Kit recommended Maca and it is easy to come by. I've also been told Vitex is good - you can probably take both, I don't know, maybe someone else can help? You must be soo frustrated.

T-hopes - how did the op go? Are you feeling OK? I hope you get good news x

Kit - lovely to hear from you! Sorry you are sick but agree it makes you feel like something is def. going on which it obviously is! I remember my boobs being like that too - just couldn't lie on my stomach at all! Hope Tiger is getting all snug, bring on your 12 week scan. Yeah, Twilight is good for lots of things! I just read the last book in the Sookie Stackhouse set (TrueBlood) - was good but not as good as I was hoping it would be. Think season 3 is starting soon - something to look forward to! Rest up and enjoy! If it's the same friend from before I can't say I have much sympathy but I know you must care about her and you did a lovely thing sending the text, she'll be happy for you maybe just needs a bit of time with it. I hope she can be there for you as I know you would be for her if things were the other way around.

Dory - keep snuggling lovely and hope kitty number 2 has a quick recovery x

MatthewsMum - have you had your bloods yet? Do you know when you might be having the FET?

Iona - how many days past O are you now?? Do you have a test date?

MsKara - I like "Swooning in June" - hope it's your turn too! Sorry for all you've been through - hope things settle and you get some help from the FS. 8 1/2 weeks is a long time to wait.

Hi and sorry if I have missed anyone (I only went back to the top of the page this time).

AFM, went to see my TCM doc today and she basically told me the earliest I can expect to start IVF is four months if I stick to the diet and don't get sick. I feel so despondent ATM, ready to give up but trying desperately to stay hopeful. So I've decided I'm going to lurk for a while 'cause being on here I just keep thinking about timeframes and I really have to let that go for a while. She thinks I will have a much higher chance by waiting and that if I tried IVF now it would be a wasted opportunity and if I did fall pg I probably wouldn't carry the baby full term. I know she is probably right but it is hard to hear. Anyway, I will be popping in from time to time to say hi and wish you all the best in the world that your BFPs come soon. Thanks for all the support and encouragement - it's a lovely group in here and I'm looking forward to coming back in a few month. Take care everyone,

Alice xx

forshelby - i had the same prob with my last pregnancy with hot chocolate - I was so upset with not being able to enjoy my hot chocolate

Alice - so sorry to hear that your going but yay on being able to start IVF (except that it's in 4 months). Please drop in to let us know that your doing ok, we'll miss you!! xoxox FF has me testing on 12th that is when AF is due (well if I go back to 27/28 days but the last 2 cycles were 25 days)

AFM: still nothing to report only 3DPO and yesterday felt like it dragged on....

Alice: we'll miss you if you don't post but you have to do what's right for you. I'll be thinking of you even if you are only 'lurking'. You must trust your TCM dr a lot to wait on her advice. I hope that what she is doing for you is just the trick.

mskara: THat is very hard, hearing about other people's pg but also finishing a quilt for others when you had hoped to be finishing one for yourself can make you heartsore. I'm a quilter and i know it can take me months and months longer to finish something than i think i will. Are you going to keep working on your quilt? I thought it could symbolise hope: so that when you get your next BFP you will be ready? Or would it make it harder?

Reet: I know the 'heartsink' of that BFN. So sorry it wasn't +ive. I'm glad you're going back to the dr: i think sooner rather than later is better if things don't feel right.

Damprye: very strong of you not to test! Very impressed you are 'going with the flow'...and the ice cream McNuggets!
Forshelby: Sounds promising ooooooh, excited for you to test!
Dory: Yay for 24+ weeks.
Mathewsmum: hope you are 100% over your flu and feeling good.
Iona Macca: Good luck for the study: I know that feeling; where you manage to find umpteen things to do that are not studying!
Saffy: Hi, got my fx for your next IVF. But we had decided not to get a year older, remember???!!! Just kidding :D
Kitfaerie: So lovely to hear all about your MS and sore boobs! I reckon spot of old blood was from the bleed you had a few days ago and nothing new to worry about. I know it's hard to know how to talk to people TTC when you are already up the duff. THe SMS was thoughtful. Either you really did read into it something that wasn't there or she just doesn't want to seem like she's not happy for you so wouldn't fess up. But i think you did all you can.

AFM: Started feeling 'fluey' yesterday: a bit seedy, aching back. THen last night i started to get some cramping. I've had 'twinges' on and off for about a week but last night's was distinctively cramping one spot on each side, which to me feels like pg rather than AF coming. I couldn't help myself... i tested this morning... there was a second line. it's faint but DH agrees it's a :bfp: I'm scared to believe it in case it disappears. I'm going to test again after AF due date (in two days) to check it's getting darker but cautiously happy.

ah well so much for lurking!

POSSUM!! :) CONGRATULATIONS GIRL! :) That's great news - hope that line just keeps on getting darker xx

And thanks for your comment, and to Iona too. x

Possum - congratulations sweety, here's to that line getting darker and the little munchkin is getting ready to snuggle itself in!!