32wks 4days today. Now they decide to bring up DS

hi all and thankyou, but today wasnt as great as what I would have liked and hoped for. Had my u/s today now my hope feels dashed.

Bub is sitting at the 7th percentile.

Heres the comparison to 3wks ago.

BPD was at the 5th percentile and is now well under the 5th percentile.
HC was at the 40th percentile and now sitting at the 35th percentile.
AC was less than the 5th percentile, yet thankfully the only one that has improved is now at the 6th percentile.
FL was at the 19th percentile and now sitting at the 8th percentile
est fetal weight was 1203g at the 8th percentile and is now 1659g and at the 7th percentile.

They want to rescan in 2wks, yet I am anxious already.

They think that the BPD could be due to the position of bub, and may be inacurate, but the Dr wasnt the one that did the u/s it was a normal sonographer today, which I was a bit uneasy about. Would have been nice if the same DR had done the scan, yet he wrote the notes. sigh.

Saw the baby dr / OB who decided to tell me that he didnt want to worry me, but with bubs growth bub may have DS. I then replied and said that there has been no soft markers whatsoever. he then replied and said there doesnt need to be any softmarkers. (this ended up really worrying me, I feel so upset right now) I keep mentioning my last bub and how small she is, and how she is fine just small. Anyway Im hoping that my bub is perfectly healthy. He did say bub maybe just small.
Ohh and mentioned the headaches which he checked the BP and said it is rising alittle but still ok, yet wants me to see the GP on Thursday and Saturday to have the BP checked. He then also mentioned that if I have anymore headaches that are like what I have been experiencing to call the birthing suite so they can monitor me. He also had me do some BT's.

Then it was time to see the physcisian (sorry spelling) He looked back at little V's records and seems to think this bub is following V's patterns but said nothing we can do just try not to stress. Well yeah thats easier said than done. He wants me to see him in 4wks, wants me to have a rest from the DR's appts. Wow one Dr makes a huge difference.

The OB wants to see me next week, but again something different each time with delivery times. He goes on to say that he thinks 40wks would be fine then maybe 38-39wks due to c/s's. However he wants to see the next u/s to see how bub is going and also to keep an eye on me. He said if bub needs to arrive or something is wrong with me, or the both of us then he will deliver.

So there you have it, still none the wiser about delivery, yet when I wanted to be left until 40wks they were stressing, then they stress me and they want to push it back. I was feeling very excited about meeting bubs and now I just cant be excited anymore. I am praying that bubs is healthy and the next u/s in two weeks shows some great growth. I am so worried about being stressed out even more now and when bub arrives. I was put through so much with Little V, I just dont want to go through that again.

Im so sorry everyone for the downer. I think my lack of sleep is just going to get worse now. Hugs all

I am so scared, I would have done the CVS earlier on if they were going to bring this up now.

Just wanted to give you a :hug:

big hugs hun no words of advice but to let u know i hope everything is ok n that this bub is ok.. gl xoxoo

oh CSAB :hug: It all sounds so confusing. Looking at the photo you have of Chikkabub is so cute!!!!! Sending you the best wishes & prayers I can.

Oh hugs hun, what a stressful time for you (I know that is an understatement really). I hope you get some answers and positive news at your next scan. I also hope that you have restful sleep.

Hoping and praying that everything will turn out ok for you and your family. (easier said then done) but do try to keep your mind on other things, there is absolutely nothing you can do now, just follow your instincts and your heart. hugs

Here's hoping that bubs is like Miss V. Huge :hug: csab. Fingers crossed that the next scan shows some growth.

Big hugs xox

:hug: hun... Not a fun place for you to be... Thinking of you . xo

Oh honey :hug: what a stressful day! Hopefully bub is just mini like V, it's reassuring at least that bub is following her pattern and you know she is fine. And there was one nice dr :comfort: Hoping bub is just another little pocket rocket and is healthy xxx

Just more :hug: that's a lot to deal with :hug:

Morning all,

I just want to say Thankyou to everyone for your support. I have been feeling pretty down and really needed to think yesterday so didnt post. Thankfully my sister came over and we went out for the day, which helped get my mind of things which I also think i needed. I had cried most of the night Tuesday. Yesterday (I Know this is going to sound like a stupid thing to do} I told DH that if bub isnt ok and healthy that I would understand if he left. He is under enough stress with work and didnt want to add to it. Anyhow he just said he wasnt going anywhere and not to be stupid. Yet also said we need to think positive thoughts. I just said that it is so hard when they say these things, which plant the seed of doubt in your mind. He asked why they are starting up now and I showed him the u/s reports from this time and last time, then I showed him little V's ones so he could see how hers were. (I have them all set up in some folders, one from previous pg and one for this one. It was just easier to have it all set up like that especially with having so much in the way of records from U/S's and BT's etc. } I do have a history of small bubs, my oldest was born at 40wks weighing just 2.5kgs, and he is very petite in size, small boned etc, as is Little V who was only 2.38kg born by my dates 11days early. Yet they put her at 38wks born. So I am really clinging onto this, and praying really hard that bub is just small like my other two and thats it.
I am so not looking forward to the hospital stay at all now, especially after my experience with V and all the stress I was put through and what she was put through. I am honestly scared of going through the same this time. I am just not sure I have the energy for all that stress too. They had me in tears everyday throughout V's pgcy then everyday in hospital until I couldnt take it anymore and asked to go home, which they tried to delay. Yet got my way 5days later at 10pm at night. Even had the MW's home visits for more than a month several times a week (which I actually thought was pointless especially coinciding with the pead appts. Then on top of the pead appts and hospital appts for heart u/s's and kidney u/s's as well as GP appts we also had to see the Genetics Dr's once I was home with V, then all the rest since then with V.
I am so nervous even more now this time round especailly after seeing what V has gone through, yet also due to the GD and how it will affect bubs. I am just not sure how I am going to cope.
I just wish I had a crystal ball to tell me that bubs is fine, and not to worry. Ive been trying to eat a heap of fatty foods to try and get bub to gain weight, yet it just plays with the GD. Stupid I know, yet I am picking at straws right now. No matter what i do it doesnt seem like anything is helping.
Maybe it is all my fault that bub is having difficulty growing, maybe I was just selfish wanting to bring another bub into my family. You know i thought to myself when they told me I needed Thyroid tablets, then had GD, then needed to be on insulin that, thats ok aslong as it is all me (my problems) not bubs problems, and that I can handle it being me, as long as bub is ok, I can handle everything they throw at me in regards to my health. (I am expecting alot of people to tell me I was selfish to bring another bub into the world now, especially if bub does have something wrong) The ones that I am thinking of arent even interested in this bub now, so wouldnt surprise me.

Anyway thanks for letting me ramble on everyone, and i am sorry again for the downer post. Just need to get this off my chest.

I can't really offer any advice, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you.

I've been told for 8 weeks now that my bub could have a chromosomal abnormality and been pestered for an amnio.
I got scanned a few days ago (I'm currently 30weeks) and my bub is sitting on the 8th percentile. Unfortunatley I'm not sure exactly what it means.
I know my bub is small, 2-3 weeks behind.

I'm not having an amnio, and I'm believing that my bub is OK.
I know its hard, and I've cried so much at the thought of bub having DS or some kind of disability.
But, you have to focus on the positives. Your bub is still growing, and if growth stopped you can safely deliver.
And the fact that you've had small bubs before, there most likely is nothing wrong at all.

Everythings going to be OK. Just gotta focus on the positives. They're hard to find at times, but they're there.

I'm thinking of you,

--Charlotte.

Gee Charlotte, I have been reading up on what you have been going through with your bub and I have to say, I feel for you. I will be praying all goes well for your little bub and yourself. Im sorry you have been going through such a hard time.
I am realy trying to keep up with the positives, and I am so glad to hear that you are clinging to all the positives too. It is really hard however when all you want to hear is good comments from our Dr's in relation to our bubs, with none of the negatives which seem to implant themselves more deeper down than the positives seem to. All we want is healthy bubs and seeming to get reminded of the opposite almost every week can get overwhelming, upsetting and exhausting.
I hope your little one gets to stay inside for a while yet, but we both know if our bubs are needed to be delivered early then it is for their wellbeing. We both dont have much longer to go before our little ones are here and with lots of luck we will both have wonderful outcomes.
Im sorry that you wont have bubs in the same hospital as you once he/she is delivered, but so glad you will get to stay at the ronald mcdonald house to be near your bub. Has to be a huge load off your mind apart from everything else you are facing.
ATM I am not sure if my bub will be with me after my c/s, as they have mentioned bub will need to be monitored in SCN once born to make sure there is no problems with breathing etc due to me being insulin dependant with GD. Have been told it all depends on bub.

Thankyou for your words, and for thinking of me, I too will be thinking of you. Praying all turns out well for the both of our bubs. Look after yourself gorgeous. hugs

Csab, I found with all our stress with our baby (which went up and down like a yoyo) that I needed to go to that dark place first before I could start to think positively again about things. It is completely understandable when you are in the throes of hearing awful stressful things at the hospital that you focus on these things. Particularly as you have been through a similar thing before it must bring up all sorts of feelings and fears. I would suggest to let yourself get as upset as you like, go there for a while. It is stressful, scary and hard, and it is fine that you feel all those things. I found that after I was so exhausted by worrying that I naturally started to focus on the more positive stuff, but only after I had really faced the other side of it. Then little by little the positives (like Charlotte mentioned - your baby is still growing, and V was similar size but OK), can start to shine out more. Give yourself some time and have a good cry whenever you need to if that is what helps.
I found talking to a genetic counsellor really helpful - is there one you can see at your hospital?
Andrea :hug:

Hi Cheryl. Wow I never knew before you had as many children as me.
Anyhow don't stress over bub. If you have a history of small babies then it will show up. Also sometimes between 32 - 36wks for some reasons unknown some babies slow down but then pick up again.
I had that with Samuel and daniel but it was worse with Tash as she didn't grow at all past 36 wks so was induced at 38wks and had to be resussed at birth. Placental breakdown. She is now a healthy 19 yr old, married and with her own son.
I know they all say that with GD you have bigger babies but not always.
I also have a friend who from 5 mths on was told her baby would be a dwarf as his measurements were way below normal. He was born perfectly sized and is a healthy little boy with big blue eyes, blonde curls and an active little chappy :)
I know I don't always trust my OBs scan measurements as the resolution on his machine is not as good as at the womens imaging clinic. A lot can depend on position, machine, technical expertise and genetics.
stress will not do your b/p any good and I reckon if will be high at your next check coz of course you are worrying.
big hugs and I'll be thinking of you and be here if you need to talk.
Jude

Goodluck Csab and Charlotte, I'm sure all will be fine

Big big big HUGS :hug: :hug: :hug:

Oh hun I am so sorry they have brought this up now :( I know what it is like to suddenly be facing what could be DS so far into pregnancy.

I hope you get some time with bubs in surgery after the CS, I did get the first touch other than my OB bringing her out and a short cuddle, then she was going down hill, I could see it myself and had to be taken away to SCN, and I think you would be like me, and know that if bubs has to go they do and it is for the best, having been there before it was much easier the second time. And if they are showing signs like Miss A did, then the quicker they get them on o2, they can prevent HMD, and in the end Miss A was off the o2 by that night. Much better for them to go off for o2 quickly, then in my case, resulting in a transfer to a NICU hospital.

If you need to chat about soft markers, let me know, I know all of them for DS, and even if there are some it doesn't mean that DS is inevitable :hug:
I am so sorry I missed this earlier :( xxoo

Hi all,

Sorry for me MIA, but needed toget through to todays u/s. Thankyou everyone for your thoughts, it has been really appreciated. hugs

Well had todays hospital appt and u/s. Bub has grown to the 10%tile. Which was good to hear. However the notes say Says there has been interval growth noted from the previous scan with the EFW at the 7th to 10th %tile. I think I will stick with the 10th%tile instead. Sounds better. They had mentioned me doing an amnio today, which I had said really it is too late for that now, maybe at say 20wks not going onto 35wks. Dont want to put bub through that stress, or me for that matter we are so close to the finish line.
Anyhow have another u/s in 2wks to see how bubs growth is going as even though the report says that the AFI, BPP and UA dopplers remain normal, Symmetrical SGA is present with no evidence of fetal compromise at this stage. Who knows what the next scan will say.
Yet on the bright side all the estimated measurements are on the chart this time, so FX next one is even better.

Ahh yes, I also have a date for my c/s, yet that will be a surprise, however I am still tossing up on whether to keep that date, or arrange for another date.

Beema - thankyou sweety, I know the soft markers as I had a few of them with Miss V. I hope I do get some time with bub, not sure how my chances will be while in surgery though. FX anyway. Thanks re the o2, hopefully bub will cope without it though. Thankfully bub will be FT when delivered now, unless next u/s shows a problem that is compromising bub. hugs

Judy - Thankyou hun too, Yes I do have as many kids as you. lol. BTW as well congrats on your BFP, just look after yourself hun and i will have everything crossed for a nice sticky little bubba. So glad you have seen a wonderful HB. Always such a relief to see that. Thankyou for the reassurances as well. Honestly sometimes i wonder why I put myself through this. hugs

TCB - Thankyou hun, I did go to that dark place before I was able to move forward and clear my mind. I just needed to get through to today. Thankfully today was somewhat better apart from the amnio suggestion, which why on earth would I consider it now being almost 35wks along. I hope your doing ok. I cant wait to hear your BA, it isnt long to go now. Look after yourself hun. hugs

Isodora - Thankyou hun, hugs

Sounds like positive news Cheryl! :hooray: for being on the charts!! Double :hooray: for 10%tile! In double figures :wiggle:
I know it's hard but try to stay positive, I will be keeping everything crossed that bub is just another littlie. Don't let the doctors push you around or upset you. You have learned from your experience with V so I'm sure you can be strong.
Thinking of you honey now and for the next few weeks as you and bub go into the home stretch.
:hug:

Ohhh thanks Pixie hun, your right I am trying not to let them upset me especially after little V. After having a conversation with Dh today, I have decided to push back the c/s date, as long as bub is compromised in any way then I think it may help with some more growth spurts, well FX for that anyway. lol. Now it is upto the hospital to agree with the change. The change will also have me closer to the 40wk mark. Then if bub wants to arrive before then, then it will be on bubs decision not theirs or even mine. it would be nice to give bub that chance to choose his/her own birthday.
Also have I missed something, sorry if I have but a huge congratulations hun on your BFP. That is wonderful, how exciting another little bundle on the way. Yay.... hugs

Thanks honey xxx

Hey, thats all great news!!

I'm so happy to hear that!!