Day 5 blast transferred had already fully hatched

:) Hello again

On Saturday I had an FET of a Day 5 blastocyst. It had already completely hatched prior to freezing. I know this needs to ultimately happen , but will this lower/improve my chances of the blast implanting? In other words, would it have been better if it had only been partially hatched?

I also wonder if this could mean it would implant sooner as I am already feeling some gentle cramping?

Thanks
WTH ;)

PS: I did a search and couldn't find this anywhere so please redirect me if this is covered in a previous thread.

They do need to hatch before they implant, and I know they say hatching blastocysts are the bees knees when it comes to transfers... but I've got no idea if it's a problem if it has already fulled hatched! I've not heard of it before.

I would certainly imagine that it would lead to earlier implantation... and having experienced the feeling that can only be described as like an alien trying to eat its way out of my uterus, I'm convinced that sometimes, implantation CAN be felt.

What I do know is that sometimes embryos don't survive thaw, and if that was the case, then your clinic wouldn't transfer. So if it has survived all that, then there's a good chance it will go further.

BW

Were you able to ask your FS about it? Or could you even ring the lab at your clinic to ask them?

Sorry I have no idea but it sounds good to me!

I also felt implantation - it was like someone had pinged me!

Good luck
Sue x

:lol: ROFL BW - an "alien"? I agree that implantation CAN be felt.

As for the blast being fully hatched, I don't know if the standard protocol is to freeze them partially hatched, but it had to wait as it was having PGD performed on it. The nurse was optimistic about the quality - 95% of the cells survived the thaw and it was rehydrating itself (not relying on the rehydrating solution).

I don't know if what I am feeling is the progesterone or wishful thinking ATM.

Thanks for your thoughts x :)

Thanks MummaSue - I am feeling a bit pinged but don't know if I am over-thinking every "ping" I'm sensing IYKWIM

WTH ;)

Good luck!

I don't have any advice, but saw this and wanted to wish you luck WTH. All the best!

(btw, it's HannahD)

I don't have any idea about the hatching part as I have only had 1 transfer of Day 5's (all the rest were day 3's) but if it is hatched and survived the thaw then that's got to be a good thing as it is already so far down the track for you. Good luck and I hope it is already snuggled in nice and tight for the long haul.

Oh, did you find out the sex of the embryo if you had PGD?? You don't have to answer if you do know, I'm just being nosy :)

Hellooooooo Tuesday's Child :D - thanks, hun x

Hi KellyD - thanks also for your well-wishes. We did not ask about the sex of the blast. I don't think you are allowed to unless you are testing for a sex-related genetic issue.

Hey, i just came across this and thought i'd let you know that my little fella was fully hatched when he was transfered :D
Good luck!

Jaki80 - Woot! That's the BEST thing you could've told me :dance:. Congratulations on your PG - not long to go :D

Glad to help :)

Hi WTH, great to see you, just wanted to let you know I have just done an FET, my embie was also fully hatched, my FC called it 'nude' lol, and I have just gotten a BFP, I would assume implantation would happen almost immediately from transfer. And I did have very faint lines on internet cheapies from 9dpo.

Wishing you all the best with this cycle, I hope it is a BFP one xxx

Hi hun, I had a fully hatched 5 day old frostie (actually it was 6 days I think :think:) transferred last year and now he's sleeping next door! All the best hun, it looks good so far!
I had cramping a few days after my transfer that lsted for a week from memory (or maybe two, I still have preggy brain :o)

Baby Dreamtime - a HUGE congratulatons to you hun! I am so happy for you! Look how far you've come - you have been so strong sticking it out and now your dream has come true :dance:

Miss B - that is very reassuring for me to read this morning. I have just POAS and it is BFN (14dpo so pretty sure it will stay that way). I have one more in the freezer and it is a 6-dayer. Will now swat up on extra things I can do to help with implantation. I did accupuncture with DS, but not this time around and am now regretting it. Thanks for popping by ;)

Hun I did a hpt the day I got my results and it still was so feignt I miss took it for a bfn. I had to hold it up in different lights etc to see where the line was! Don't give up hope. I also did one at 9dp5dt that was neg.
14 dpo, what is that past transfer?

Jaki80 - I am 9 days past transfer, AF due last night (but I am on progesterone pessaries until BT). Traditionally (when I have been PG including the MC's) I have always got a BFP by now. But thanks ;)

Hun, I'm not sure if this worked for us, but both times I fell pg with IVF, we DTD the night before transfer. I read somewhere that it's supposed to help with implantation (it might actually mention this on the flyer the IVF people give you). I have also had a friend that did do acupuncture and she had a BFP with that.
I got my very very faint line only 10 days post transfer hun...........there is still hope!!!! GL hunni xx

Hi Miss B

Do you mind if I ask if you transfered a 3 day or 5 day old embie?

Basically I am now figuring out what I can do better next time around. It will be our last chance. I did a natural FET cycle this month, but maybe the other type has a higher implantation rate (I have absolutely no idea).

Thanks to everyone for the kind support on this wall. DH and I feel so blessed to have our two children and I went into this cycle feeling very relaxed (if it's mean't to be, it's mean't to be). But today I feel totally crushed :shakehead:

WTH x

Hi hun,
I had 2 blasties transferred (on separate occasions) from the first and only cycle I did in 2008. Basically my FS told me that it's still the fastest way to get pg as implantation rates are higher with a 5 day old blastie. At the time of going for my cycle I had a pretty big fibroid in my uterus, so he was concerned that if we go day 2 or 3 we might be taking too long to get pg. I had one fresh blastie transferred in 2008 and I got pg, but sadly I lost my angel at 21 weeks because the fibroid went ferral on me. We then made the decision to remove the fibroid and waited 6 months for my uterus to heal, and then I had a FET in July last year which also resulted in a pg. We are going again later this year hopefully, and I have a feeling he'll want to go to day 5 again. I am concerned that because I am older now, we might not get to day 5, so will ask if he will consider day 3. I had my 'egg reserve' levels checked and they were fine, so he said the quality of my eggs should be OK. He will just increase my dose of gonal (I was on 225 I think). Talk to your FS hun but he is probably coming from the same angle as my FS. GL hun in whatever you decide to do, I really hope you get your number 3 very soon!
B xoxoxo

:comfort: Miss B - I am truly sorry to read of the heartache you went through with your first loss x

I do respect your concern about doing a cycle this year. I wasn't much younger (38.5) when I did the cycle which resulted in DS. I'd be more than happy to share with you some information about how I attempted to improve my egg quality. Feel free to PM me anytime.

WTH

Thanks sweetie :hug:

I will PM you if you don't mind, thank you! Would love to hear of what you did :p