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Can anyone help with my chart? I'm very very confused!
I don't understand the whole concept of charting. Ie. Temps going up and down.
My chart is looking rather peaky at the moment.
The link to it is in my sig. If anyone could help interpret and give me a better understanding I'll be very appreciative!!
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<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/Melzi19">My Ovulation Chart</a>
Just in case the link in my sig can't be seen or doesn't work.
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Link in your sig worked.. Your temp is quite low I noticed, is that normal for you? When you O you normally have a low temp, then FF detects O when there are 3 consecutive temps higher.. The progesterone increase is what causes the high temps I have been charting for over 12 cycles, and still get confused lol.. Charting is hard for the 1st couple of months, it's much easier when you have been at it for a while, so you notice a pattern.. Also you don't know you have O'd til after you see the temp rise. I hope you don't have to chart for ages and you get your BFP soon!
How do you put in a link to your chart??
My temp is often that low it's normal for me.
:) I sleep with my aircon on most nights... But always under the blanket...
I temp under my arm.
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Temping under your arm could be why.. Can I ask why you don't temp orally?
My temps are all over the shop too. I don't think I will get a BFP this month..
I sleep with my mouth open. That's why I don't temp orally anymore
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Oh and you put your chart in your sig by going onto ff and go onto your chart, share by copying on the code... And then put a link in your sig via BB control panel... I think. Sorry I'm not very computer savvy hope I explained it okay.
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Thanks, but Do you copy the BB code or the HTML code? I tried and it didn't work..
Bb code I think love...
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ok, lets see if this works My Ovulation Chart
ETA, I think it did :) , thanks
Your chart looks fine :) Looks like a chart of someone who is temping orally (or underarm)... if you want steady temps you will have to temp vaginally.
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Tanya at the end of this current cycle I will temp orally. Not too keen on the idea of vaginally.
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Your chart looks perfectly fine to me too! Nothing wrong with it at all. Oral temps would be a lot more accurate though. Don't be concerned about sleeping with your mouth open, a lot of people do that, me being one of them! My charts are displaying some nice patterns now (I have 5 really complete charts including my BFP) despite sleeping with my mouth open, the fan on, the evaporative air on, getting woken at random times by a toddler and taking my temps at different times! :rofl:
You really need a few charts up your sleeve before you will see patterns and be able to detect O by the look of your charts. It looks like O could be about to happen with the slight temp dip today. Have you got your digital OPKs yet? Remember it is possible to miss the LH surge too so you *may* be unlucky with the timing of your OPK and miss the positive. That happened to me last month! It doesn't necessarily mean you aren't ovulating.
You said in one of your other posts that your GP has confirmed you definitely aren't ovulating though, what tests did they do? I'd still keep on charting this month if I were you but try orally and see what difference it makes. The digital OPKs are much easier to use too so if you use them to detect your LH surge then you may just get that positive after all. FF will detect O if your temps behave themselves so keep on going, especially as you're halfway through the month now :) A full chart is really interesting to look back on.
All in all, your chart looks great and perfectly normal to me. O may be just around the corner. I O between cd14 and cd18 - it can vary each month. HTH
Taureen, I'm still charting but I've had negative opks ( and been poas since cd9... 2 a day so i doubt I've missed the surge.- and even then I haven't had o detected by ff... Or my doc. She said if I temp I should see that I ovulate even if my temps are taken at different times... Also the blood tests at cd3 are ok-ish, my fsh is a tad higher (meaning lower ovarian reserve this month to last month ?) Clomid apparently will help that, I'm not all keen on clomid but I guess if I'm not ovulating that is the only way ATM to kickstart it! Temp took another drop today... :(
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Hon, O is still likely on the horizon, especially given you've said in previous posts that your cycle is roughly 28/29 days and your LP was 10+.
You cam still miss your LH surge depending on the time you test and how long the surge lasts. For example, I do my OPKs first thing in the morning (perfectly fine and recommended for the OPKs I use). I test for roughly 4-5 days as I have enough data from charting now to know when I O. I missed my positive last month and it's most likely my surge happened in the afternoon or evening, hence why I missed it. However, thanks to charting, FF was able to roughly detect when I O'd due to the temp dip then steady rise (of three + days), other fertility signs I entered (CM - I don't often get EWCM either, etc) and previous cycles information.
Your temp dip isn't a bad thing at all. Temps do fluctuate and you'll only see patterns at the end of a full cycle plus when you have more charts to compare. I've got my charts (the full ones that is) in my sig. Feel free to take a look for reassurance.
:hug: Hang in there. You've O'd in previous months (at least that's what you've said in another post) so maybe you're just jumping the gun a bit this cycle. I know TTC can be trying and your onto your 7th month but it is perfectly normal and healthy to still be trying at 7 months. Charting is one way to help you along on your journey though and like I said, you'll only benefit from it when you have full cycles to review.
Taureen,
My doctor has just handed me clomid yesterday to take in cycle 8 so something must be up. And when I first started ttc o was usually on cd10-14 giving me a nice lp.
Don't know what's happening, I may be jumping the gun, yes. But my hubby has just left for work so I'm positive this month is out anyways (as much as I wasn't technically meant to be trying due to a health issue)...
Thanks for the reassurance though, I appreciate it.
I want my body to do this naturally. I know I've done it before!! I'm going to temp under my arm for this current cycle, then I will probably do oral temping next cycle. My temps do fluctuate like this all month... But I hadn't recorded them on ff. I'm not new to temping as such, I'm new to chart reading. :)
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And I'll let everyone know if I have o'd when I get my cd21 tests back!
I'll just keep doing what I've been doing and hope for o!
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I thought you'd had those tests already? Didn't the results come back low-ish but normal? Or have you decided to try the test again?:
Hopefully FF detects O soon. Given you're only on CD16 today, it could still be a couple of days away. You said in another post you O'd on cd18 last cycle so use that as your baseline :)
My DD has been up and down since 3.30am so your charts/history has kept me awake while I've been settling her, lol. I love charts, sadly I find it all so interesting!
I haven't obviously had the day 21 bloods done yet as I'm only on day 16 of my cycle.
I was just saying my fsh levels weren't the best this cycle.
So we shall see what happens. But quite frankly I'm a bit over it right now :( could possibly be that I'm tired and irritable from what's been going on lately.
Thanks for stalking! Thanks everyone for your advice...
I will let it be now... Getting too irritable with this all. (its not going to change the fact i still need clomid... Is it???) Sorry if I seem grumpy... (when you want something so bad to happen if can come across like that!) I do appreciate everyone's advice... Thank you xx
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Oh, are you having the test done each month? I was referring to the ones you had done last cycle (early March?) in my previous post. I've been stalking the various TTC threads for the past few months as I knew I would be joining the threads in March/April so I take a few interesting tidbits along the way incase I need help conceiving, hence why I remembered your post. I didn't know much about the cd21 blood tests and found it quite interesting. I'm very much a researcher!:
Anyway, good luck. I hope you O this month and get your BFP really soon. TTC can be very frustrating but there is a lot of advice and amazing women on BB to help make the journey more enjoyable
Yeah ive been having them every month for a while now!
Yeah the ladies here are all lovely with great advice!
I appreciate everyone's opinion :)
Although I'm very frustrated, I know people have been trying longer than I have. But now that the doc knows whats wrong, I want to get right on and fix it! I dont understand why they usually make you wait a full 12 months before ANY testing!
I've got a great dr I suppose. I found the men don't really look into things, they deem it as unnecessary. The lady doctors however, are much more sensitive to our needs and wanting to fulfill our status ad a mother.
To be honest, I feel like I'm a bit of a failure to my dh because I can't ovulate properly. My body hates me lol!
Up and onwards from here on in. Here eggy eggy eggy!!
A note to my darling DH's spermies -"c'mon and get these eggos preggo!".....
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Hey Hun!!
Maybe have a look thru the ff chart gallery - it will give u a bit of an idea of what charts look like etc. I love checkin out the chart gallery - obsession with analyzing charts haha
Also, don't look at clomid as a bad thing. I have a friend who had similar issues to you, tried for over a year, then took clomid - bang! Preg first cycle!! So take it I say! Did ur regular gp prescribe you clomid? I thought only fertility specialists could do that! U must have an awesome gp!!! So hard to find good ones!
Keep temping! It really is an awesome tool! I will keep stalking your chart if u don't mind :)
Good luck Hun!!! Xxx
Hey Melzi :)
I want to jump in here and so that you shouldnt feel like a failure to your DH! I am sure that he doesnt think that about you at all. You now hopefully have a solution to your ovulating prob and I really hope that you get your bfp real soon :hug:
As for your chart, I think your temps look fine. Maybe a lil on the low side but that could be because you are temping under your arm?? I really think you should consider temping vaginally because there is nothing that you can really do to after the temp of your insides IYKWIM (unless you sleep with your legs wide open!! :cryinglaugh: )
Good luck hun, and I am still stalking you even though I am a lot quieter on the forums these days...
:rofl: PMSL Ngala!!! I totally agree though. If you really want to see what your body is doing, arm yourself with all the tools possible! It will really help next month if you don't get your BFP this month. The more charts the better! orally is pretty reliable and don't sweat the small stuff, you'll still see patterns. I used a normal thermometer when TTC DD and it worked fine. I bought a proper BBT for this time round as the extra decimal place can help with accuracy but I certainly don't worry about how much I move before I take my temp (I sometimes take it to the loo with me!) and the time I take it varies according to when DD wakes. I've often had a restless (or sleep deprived) night due to DD waking. Temping daily, despite interruptions, is better than nothing.:
I'm sure your DH doesn't see you as a failure at all :hug: You've ovulated fine in previous cycles (at least you said you did) and you had a chem PG not long ago so your are ovulating it would seem. Why do you suddenly think you aren't? Like I've already said, your surge could still be on it's way (you said you O'd on cd18 last cycle, keep that in mind!) and remember, you won't see that O has been detected on FF until a few consecutive days of temp rises. Try to be patient hon, it all looks honestly good and normal at this stage.
Why has the doctor put you on clomid already? They seem to be jumping the gun too given you said in previous posts you've detected O in the past months. You have said the day of O has varied from month to month but hon, that is normal too! I can't understand what all the panic is about. I think you're doing just fine, you just need to ride out this month and keep charting and hopefully O will pop up on your chart very soon. It's so exciting when you enter that data one morning and BANG, O is marked on your chart. :lol:
We are all stalking, do us proud! :)
Stalk away JM- I don't mind at all. I will take the clomid and next cycle I'm keeping up the temping and hoping to have more ewcm! As I've currently had none for this cycle and a little bit for the last.
And Ngala- thanks honey. You always know what to say to make me smile. Lol legs wide open. Haha. I don't know about temping vaginally. How far do you need to stick it in??? (sorry if I'm asking an ewww question.
Dh rang me today and said he forgot to tell me that when I temped this morning my thermometer was sticking out the side of my arm with the metal point just outside my armpit. D'oh! I wondered why it beeped quickly this morning. :(
Vaginally may be the way. Any hints ngala? Or is it possible to just change to orally. What if you move around too much before getting the thermometer and moving undies inside and inserting it? Wouldn't that make your temps more unstable? And ewww? What about temp during af?
Curious now...
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See my post above regarding taking it orally. Switching to oral now will be fine. Your temps will just be more accurate going forward, that's all :D
Taurean,
I've had a fair few anovulatory cycles (as I've also said in past threads.) and my doc (she is also an obgyn) has put me on clomid because she thinks that I need it. She has spoken to my old doc and they both agree.
I'm just going to go with whatever they say. They are the trained professionals and I wouldn't do the clomid cycles without constant monitoring. So I am going to get a phone call telling me when I'm due for an ultrasound, and when to have my blood tests done. And I would never even entertain the idea of taking clomid unmonitored.
This clomid idea wasn't mine. I didn't want to go on it. I'd rather my body do it naturally. But that's not happening every month.
Anovulation Doesn't have to happen every month for you to be prescribed clomid. It has to happen and be documented (from what my dr told me) more than 3 times in at least 6 months ttc - and bingo... That's me. :( sadly.
ETA: Why do I feel like I'm having to explain myself to everyone? Why do I feel guilty for being prescribed clomid? :( hrmmm..... Down in the dumps.
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Doh for the point sticking out from under your arm!!
I am not sure how for I normally stick it in cause I was always half asleep but I think about an inch in would be ok?? Probably the same amount would go in if you were doing it in your mouth. Moving around a bit before putting the thermometer in should matter too much, I normally wiggled a bit before taking my temp. And you only need to slide your undies across a lil bit to put the thermometer in. :)
I normally sleep on my left side so when my alarm went off I would grab the thermometer that was on my bedside table, move my top leg up a bit and then pop it in. I sleep in boxers so I had no prob with moving my undies but I don't think that would be too difficult.
And you dont need to temp during AF. I normally missed my 2nd/3rd day of AF and then started up when it was a lot lighter plus I rarely bled during the night so it wasnt messy at all.
If you are still unsure about vaginally then go orally but if you tend to sleep with your mouth open, then you wont get accurate temps. I am sure after a few vaginally done temps you will feel a lot more comfortable doing it. I'm not sure if DH will be home IF you start your new cycle but if he is not, then atleast you could get a few in before he is home in bed and wondering where you are sticking the thermometer!!
:hug: I wouldn't feel guilty about taking the clomid. Your GP obviously sees that the clomid would be beneficial for you to help you ovulate. You know that you do ovulate, just not all the time, so this will help keep it regular for you. I think you should go with what your GP has suggested and give it a few goes. You may only need to use the clomid once!! And as I see it, you will still be achieving conception naturally, you just need a little help to get an egg out!!
No need to feel guilty! If that's what the doctors said you need and you agree with their advice then you are doing what's right for you and your TTC journey :) No one is asking you to explain yourself, we (or me at least) are just trying to help you analyze things so getting all the facts helps to do that.:
Plenty of girls have had success on clomid so hopefully it works for you too. Don't be sad or worried about taking something to help your body along, we all need a little help from time to time. I didn't take medications as such when TTC but I did chart my cycles (and was very anal about it! :lol:), I used OPKs, Preseed and raised my hips after DTD so I gave my body a helping hand too and that's ok :)
Hi sweetie,
I know this is hard and you have had a tough few weeks just to add that extra stress.
I think people ask questions so they can understand what is happening for you and to expand their own knowledge. We're all here to support :D I didn't know that they would give clomid if you have three anovulatory cycles, I just assumed it would only be if you didn't release an eggo at all...learning new stuff every day.
I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you're letting the team down, you and I have chatted about that before. :comfort: But we both know it isn't the case. You are doing everything you can TTC and taking clomid, if you do decide to go with it, is just another thing you can do.
About temping vaginally, I know it can seem a bit eww, I agree with Ngala, after a couple of days its not too bad. If you don't do it during AF, it shouldn't bee too much of an issue. I found that I wanted the more accurate temps over the potential ick factor of the way I was temping. You'll find after a while that you don't move about any more to temp vaginally than you do to temp orally. Just make sure you listen for the beep. I've had to re-test before coz I wasn't sure if I'd even clicked the thermometer on. :ROFL:
Try to relax and not worry about this for the next week, just remember to take care of yourself. And who knows, you and I might still end up with chrsitmas babies together.
I hope you start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel soon hon, and until then I am here with you.
Right... Vaginal temping here I come... Eek. Let's try explain that to DH lol he used my BBT thermometer the other day, I told him off! Haha he won't want to use it after I do vaginal temping. When do I start? Next cycle? Gah.
So over it at the moment tbh!
Although I can't do anything more to help my body ovulate or get pregnant for that matter ... I still feel like I should be doing more. :(
Thanks miloro.
And sorry everyone. Super bad day. It's not just on here I've had to explain things to people. It's in my group of friends at work, and in my social groups.
They just all want to know !! *** I don't even know!
Meh!!! Alone... With my thoughts...This sucks...
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Update for those stalking: temp took another dive this morning cd17...
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Have u got any opks handy?? Might be a good time to do one or the surge may have already happened... Looks like it may be an o dip, but you'll just have to wait abs see what the following days temps do! X
My opks were faint (extremely faint- hardly visible last night...
If there was a surge I've already had it!
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lol about DH using the thermometer after V-temping. My DH knows if it is in the bedroom or bathroom (where I sometimes leave it after reading it there in the morning) don't touch it!
I agree with JM though, it does look like an O dip. Watch your temps over the next 3-4 days for a better indication. Maybe your surge was only short and came last night. How did you take you temp today? Don't change to V-temping until the next cycle. I stupidly changed part way through a cycle and so I can't trust the chart that month.
Miloro it's the same faint line I get throughout the whole entire cycle.
I will watch my temps for the rest of the cycle (and i haven't switched temp taking methods yet.) I will switch to taking my temp vaginally after af has been and gone.
Erk- too much bleach on the floors... Trying to clean grout to take my mind off things. At least my floors are now clean and shiney! Until my dog tramples over it! :(
Now off to hang the washing on the line then do some more floor... Then food shop then get ready for 3 days of work :( oh and study.
Trying to keep busy.
I will be on clomid no matter what next cycle as confirmed by my doctors phone call. She just advised me to keep temping and wait for af!
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Just checked out your chart hun. Looks good - if your temp keeps rising over the next few days you know you o'd! I notice you have spotting tho?? Is that normal for u mid cycle? X
Heya JM. No mid cycle bleeding is not Normal for me. Although it was one spot on the toilet paper (pinkish cm) and that was it! So don't know what it was!
Just had the doc call. She wants to see me on Monday early to arrange blood testing on clomid... Fun fun! So basically just picking up A referral then heading straight to the hospital for my day op.
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