Reflux formula's your opinions please

I just put Ella on Nan AR yesterday because she has been real vomity and i dont want her to bring up her zantac.
Anyway she had a bottle at 6pm and slept until 12:30 had another bottle and slept until 6am it was fantastic no fussing during the night i only had to put her dummy in twice the only problem i had was getting her to burp she just didnt seem to have any wind so i put her back to bed without getting a burp out of her and it didnt seem to bother her but i am worried she will have wind later because of it.

What AR formula are your babies on and what do you think of it was there a noticeble difference in bub and did it constipate them.

I found that it was best to buy the formula and buy the thickener separatly.
The combination of thickened formula and losec (zantac) seemed to slow down my bubs digestion considerably and led to him not feeding as often.
I didnt find wind to be a problemit seemed come out the other end lol. But when I bought the formula and thickener separatly, I was able to mix it to only 1/2 strength thickening KWIM? This enabled him to keep it down yet kept his digestive system working better.
Karicare sell thickener, or you could buy 1 reflux tin and 1 normal and mix them 50/50.
Good luck, we found it took some tweaking in the early days.

Thats what i was thinking of doing buying normal NAN HA and mixing 50/50 as her reflux is moderate and i dont want to constipate her

We tried the Novelac Reflux formula as its designed to thicken once it hits their tummy but it constipated DD2 really bad. Am thinking about doing what the other ladies have done with the thickener as she was so much better those couple of days she was on the reflux formula.. my only issue is with teats and the thickened formula. What flow does everyone use??

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We tried the Novelac Reflux formula as its designed to thicken once it hits their tummy but it constipated DD2 really bad. Am thinking about doing what the other ladies have done with the thickener as she was so much better those couple of days she was on the reflux formula.. my only issue is with teats and the thickened formula. What flow does everyone use??

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I used a #3 when I had it on full thicken and I think a #2 for 1/2 strength (that was from DS being 4-6 weeks old at the time)

I am using fast flow #3 with the reflux formula she normally has the newborn i find the fast flow with the reflux formula is the same drinking time as the newborn teats with normal formula i am going to try mixing 3 scoops of the reflux formula with 2 of the normal formula as they are both NAN and see how she goes because her 1st poo this morning was a lot thicker than normal like play doe where hers are normally like peanut butter (sorry for the description) and i want to avoid constipation and both formulas are 100% whey so it should upset her tummy.

Thanks for the replies re the teats. DD2 is happy on the #1 teat so will give #2's a go with the half strength thickening and see how that goes and if not move to #3.

We use Novalac Reflux here. DD was constipated when we 1st started, but it settled soon after & we have never had a problem since. It is great that, as SS said, it thickens once in bubs tummy, so is much easier to drink :)


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I started the half nan reflux formula and half nan HA with number #2 teats and oh what a difference she is sleeping 6 hours feeding like a dream and her poo's are normal so far and we have had no issues with wind so touch wood i have found the right combination for her.
The formula is thick but not to thick and she is burping without bringing it all up :D

Aww that's awesome to hear, F5. It feels great when you find something that works! Happy bubba = happy mumma :) good luck & I hope the great feeds continue for you both

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Good to hear. Its such a blessed relief when they can just drink happily.

What is HA and where do you get it? My little mans reflux is getting much worse and Im considering switching from BF to FF for thickened feeds as the losec is doing it's job on the acid but my BBs aren't handling the extra feeds to cover the stuff he brings up :-(

NAN HA and S26 HA are just improved formula's with omega 3 and iron ect the AR formula's are anti regurgitation or reflux formula's. so NAN AR is for reflux NAN HA is a normal formula.

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What is HA and where do you get it? My little mans reflux is getting much worse and Im considering switching from BF to FF for thickened feeds as the losec is doing it's job on the acid but my BBs aren't handling the extra feeds to cover the stuff he brings up :-(

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Danielle I have a tin of Novalac Reflus stuff that I am happy to give you. J was just so cranky on it. Im only 15min from you. Its only missing 3 bottles from it

I tried every reflux formula on the market for DD. None worked in stopping the spew.. it was just thicker and harder for her to bring up.. Long term use of AR formulas arnt reccomended, so I just didnt bother with it in the end.

This is the bit I Dont get, I dont have a spewer (has done it once and think that was my fault) yet the GP thinks he has reflux. What other symptoms is there?
He was doing fine on the normal formula i was giving him. Think when this free tin is done I will go back to that or try the normal karicare one

Arching of the back when laying flat. General unsettledness etc. Kinda of like us when we have heartburn.

hmmm has the arching sometimes. Grrr they should all come with instructions

Kylz-Ella has silent reflux and doesnt spew either it was only on the karicare she spewed.
Her signs were waking as soon as she layed down or she would be asleep and the scream and wake up (from reguratating stomach acid) she was always moaning and groaning you could also see her gulping clear liquid( stomach acid) and it was taking her breath away.
Feeding was a nightmare arching her back and neck she would contort into weird positions to feed she would stop start pull off and on the bottle and scream drink scream drink until she finally finished IT WAS VERY DISTRESSING and she just seemed so uncomfortable all the time her voice would be hoarse and raspy from the stomach acid burning her throat and her breath smelt funky.

Now she feeds like a dream is very content and sleeps perfectly when she is asleep.

Its ok hun, babies are hard to work out sometimes. Feeding frequently is also another sign. If he doesnt spew.. then maybe you can see about getting him on Losec to stop the pain but still be able to keep him on normal formula?

Hang in there... all this goes away, eventually :)

Nope no spewing. Was definatly a freq feeder though was like every 2 hours. At one point he put on nearly a kg in a week. Maybe she was getting worried about his weight gain and just calling it reflux to not worry me. I might just go back to the normal formula with the thickener in it that way I control how much thickener goes in it

Mummamia-I gave up on the AR formula also it just got to thick and ella would not burp so i now just add 3/4 of a scoop of karicare thickner to her normal formula now and it makes it a little thicker then normal formula but still like normal milk and she drinks it well and burps fine.

Thats what i was doing ferrals I wasnt doing the full amount.

Kylz-I think that is the better option then we can thicken the formula to what is right for them.

See i knew i was right WHY DO I LISTEN.
Although she did say add thickener she didnt say get AR formula

We just have to hang in there and it will get better.

Sweetpea is awake time for feed.

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This is the bit I Dont get, I dont have a spewer (has done it once and think that was my fault) yet the GP thinks he has reflux. What other symptoms is there?
He was doing fine on the normal formula i was giving him. Think when this free tin is done I will go back to that or try the normal karicare one

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My lil man wasnt a spewer either..............till just the last few days. But he most definitely has reflux, going on the meds have proved that because he is now a totally different baby. He did the back arching, fidgeting, unsettled ALL the time, screaming in pain out of nowhere, like he would be asleep and just scream, as well as other symptoms.

This brings me to my question, my lil man has started vomitting alot now. He wasnt vomitting at all really before, but now im changing his clothes several times a day, hes going through heaps of bibs and we are all wearing his vomit too. I should put him on thickened formula now shouldnt i? Hes about to finish his tin in the next day or so, hes on S26 gold now, what do you think i should put him on? the S26AR? or something else? Its been awhile since ive had to do thickened formula.

Thanks Kylz, will keep that in mind, off to see doctor as he's just so unsettled :-(

krisitie from my experience i would stick with the same formula and just add a thickener to it. Karicare make one.

Kristi-As kylz said leave bub on s26 gold just add a little karicare thickner at a time until you get it to what bub likes Ella only needs 3/4 of a scoop to 180mls where the tin says 2 scoops per 200mls.

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This is the bit I Dont get, I dont have a spewer (has done it once and think that was my fault) yet the GP thinks he has reflux. What other symptoms is there?
He was doing fine on the normal formula i was giving him. Think when this free tin is done I will go back to that or try the normal karicare one

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DD2 has silent reflux. They dont spew up.. they will regurgitate it up then swallow it back down. So it is actually more damaging than regular reflux as the acids going back down cause double the damage. Signs for DD2 were/are crying when feeding and arching her back, crying when burping, frequent hiccups (and crying throughout them), she would wake after a small sleep due to reflux, you would see her eyes water and the area around her eyes go red, she would and sometimes still gets acid attacks, where whenever acids come up she cries hysterically.. sometimes she will dribble them out others you can hear her swallowing them back down. So even though they dont puke they can still have reflux.

DD2 is on regular Karicare. We recently saw a pediatrician for her silent reflux and she recommended to stay away from the Gold formulas (which she was originally on) as they cause alot of problems with their tummies too. Im also adding just half a scoop of the Karicare thickener to her feed (of 150mls) and that seems to be working well for her.. pediatrician said that was fine to do.. so like everyone has mensioned, you could just try putting in a little with his regular formula and see how he goes.

That's what I was doing and stupidly changed to an AR formula for convenience. He drinks fine. I can hear him gulping when he is drinking so I'm thinking it's more a gas thing but I'm having issues bringing it up. I have prescription wind drops but I dont know if they are working