Tooth decay :(

I think my 18 month old has tooth decay in his top 4 teeth. He does night nurse, but otherwise drinks only breastmilk and water during the day. I think his diet is quite good, very occasional sweet treat but we brush at night with him. I took him to the dentist and she says stop night nursing straight away, nothing can be done at his age but preventing it getting worse.

I've read that breastmilk doesn't contribute to decay though, and also read something about a diet change that claims to allow teeth to heal themselves. Has anyone else heard of this? I feel like a terrible mum :(

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A friend's DS had discolouration of his top front teeth when he was a toddler. They never found out what caused it. It faded away and was gone by the time he went to Kinder. So weird!

I really hope that's the case with DS :(

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Both my girls have discolored teeth even though we brush morning and night (well most days) we are on tank water so i wonder if it's beacause we don't have fluoride OR if it's because they eat so much fruit.
DP's cousins little boy had to have his teeth fixed (he's 6) even though his mum is meticulous with his diet and his teeth brushing, the dentist said it was his milk before bed and the fruit he was eating every day and that parents should be brushing their kids teeth until they are about 10 as kids just don't do it properly or for long enough :(

Am hopiong my girls don't have teeth issues too.

oh hun, some kids just have cruddy teeth and theres nothing u can do about it.
i hope it sorts itself out xxx

I new of a girl a while back who's front teeth were discoloured and she told me it was because her mum was on antibiotics when she was pregnant with her. Don't know if that's true or just a myth though :)

you should be brushing his teeth either with a flannel or baby toothbrush at least twice a day regardless of what he eats or drinks.

I was also told by my MCHN that BM could cause tooth decay because of all the natural sweetness but I figured its better for her to have the BF rather than fruit etc as the natural acidity in fruits can contribute to tooth decay. We started giving DD a sip of water AFTER her BF through the nights if she hadn't fallen asleep, to help wash away some of the BM :dunno: may try this as well??

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oh hun, some kids just have cruddy teeth and theres nothing u can do about it.

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^ yep this. If you want natural therapies to try to repair the teeth, google Weston A Price :)

My eldest has disgusting teeth. He has lots of decay, no matter what we do. Skybie is right, some kids just do have cruddy teeth! We brush his (he is 7 and we still do them for him) twice daily, he has a tooth moose, and still they are grose! My other 2, we brush twice daily and theirs look fine so far. Poor DS1 has had a tooth pulled out cos it fell apart after having a crown put on it, and he has had multiple fillings. It SUCKS!

Just try to make sure you brush every day twice, if not 3 times if you know he has bad teeth.

Dd was 2 when I first took her to the dentist she has discolored teeth. Dentist asked me if I give her tea?? Seriously say what?? Of course I don't.

My dd doesnt even get fizzy drinks AT ALL, not as a treat or birthdays or even if every other kid drinks it. She gets a teeny bit of juice and that's mixed 7/8ths to water!!

Then I figured out - she eats blueberries and strawberries almost everyday year round. They were stains and easily removed. But I felt so inadequate as a mum so I understand!!

Decay I'm not too sure but I did learn at the dentist the only non acidic drink is milk. Even water can be nasty on teeth.

Definately rinse after bm and flannel brush twice a day I'd say. But I do believe some people just don't have great teeth!

I didn't really brush my teeth till I was 12 and I got my first filling a month ago. So I'm lucky to have great teeth.

I wonder if you can get calcium supplements for kids?? Worth asking.


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I've read the blog of another Mum who stopped night bfing because of decay in her two year old's teeth. It's just genetic, unfortunately, that some kids are more prone to tooth decay than others.

Did your dentist recommend any other measures you could take as well?

Thanks for all your advice guys :)

I just bought him some kids fish oil and multivitamin supplements. Apparently boosting fish oil and vitamin D can help, and yes calcium, too. Luckily he loves cheese and natural yoghurt!

I'm definitely brushing twice a day now, and giving him even more water after eating. I still feel a bit crap though :( Mum said my siblings and I had the same diet as DS (no soft drink/cordial/juice, no lollies, lots of fruit/veg, eggs dairy and meat) and brushed once a day and I've never had a cavity in my life. I'm not sure why his teeth are bad :(

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Rooey, dont be so hard on yourself over it. I've got 4 kids and 2 have absolutely crap teeth and the other two don't. Nothing was ever done any differently with any of them and it's just the way it is.

why do you think they are decayed? where is the discolouration??
tell me more and i might be able to help :hug:

It's his top 4 front teeth, they are discoloured (yellowy-brown plaque looking) along the top of the teeth and the two front teeth look like they have holes in them :(

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he may have hypoplastic enamel, has it recently formed? did the dentist say it was definatly decay? where are you located in melbourne?

What's hypoplastic enamel? It's been there for at least 6 months, but it was just a white line that looked like plaque. It recently started to get darker. No she didn't say it was definitely decay, but it was a quick look because DS was not cooperating!

We're in Geelong. Do you know a good paediatric dentist in Melbourne?

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Great blog about healing cavities naturally :D

How I Healed My Child’s Cavity=

Great link! So, where does one get butter oil and fermented cod liver oil from?

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I fed DS until he was 2 and 1/2 and towards the end it was mostly night feeding and don't seem to have any problems with DS teeth. So I don't think your night feeding is the cause of the problem. Goodluck finding a solution... can I dentist clean the plaque stuff?

Yeah I really don't think his night nursing is a problem either. Dentists can definitely clean plaque but I doubt DS would tolerate it at his age. I'm going to find some butter oil and fermented cod liver oil and pray!

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it could very well be tartar rooey, which is calcified plaque, some people no matter what you do are prone to it, check the inside of his lower bottom teeth, is there brown stuff there too?

There doesn't seem to be. I hope it's just plaque.

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id go and see a pediatric dentist hun before you do anything, there are several in melbourne that are good, otherwise suss out if anyone knows a good one down that way

Yeah I'll definitely do that. Thanks :)

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The best fermented cod liver oil is the Blue Ice brand (most others are not fermented and are just modern ruined, unhealthy cod liver oil). The only places I know of that sell it in Australia are greenpastures and nourishingecology. It's really foul stuff- we have to syringe it in for our son so we get the liquid and not the gel blend for him. Otherwise the next best choice is Melrose cod liver oil which you can buy in shops.

I meant to say the night nursing is not a problem either. Such a myth created around the fact that people think formula feeding and breastfeeding are comparable. The issue with sleeping and feeding comes from bottles being left in children's mouths when they are asleep. The bottle keeps dripping milk in and the saliva levels go down while asleep so the teeth start to rot. If a baby falls asleep while breastfeeding and the nipple stays in their mouth the milk doesn't keep dripping as they need to suck to bring the milk down so the same issue doesn't occur.

All my kids have good teeth apart from the 4 year old, who is one step away from having the front to taken out :o
She has the same diet.
The dentist said that her addiction the citrus fruits hasn't helped, she loves oranges and mandarins :rolleyes:

Ok, Blue Ice fclo/butter oil ordered! I'm going to take it as well, there's gotta be some benefit passed on in my milk as well?

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What an interesting article about the butter oil - I think I am going to order some aswell.

I hope that it works for you Rooey!!

Thanks Ash :) I'll report our progress!

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Rooey5 I feel your pain!
DD2 has two of her front top teeth gone. Not the front two, but the two next to those two. started off with a bit of discolouration and now they are both virtually gone. We've seen a ped dentist who gave us some tooth hardening mousse. The first dentist blamed it on breastmilk, the second and third dentists blamed it on her diet. With all three I laughed when they gave me their reasons. Firstly I know breastmilk was unlikely to cause such damage, secondly our diet is really good, the girls dont drink lots of juice, they dont have soft drink or junk food that often if at all and we mainly eat healthy foods. Also I brush their teeth at least twice a day (my girls are freaks they absolutely love brushing their teeth and will brush them at every opportunity.

That been said, Dh has a really bad family history with teeth, and it seems DD2 got his genes there. And I was really sick when about the same time in pregnancy as to when teeth form, and apparently this is being shown to be huge in how healthy teeth are in young ones.

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And now Im off to research butter oil :D

How are you going? Has your FCLO arrived yet?

It has, it's gross lol. I'm having half a teaspoon a day (it's a butter oil/fclo blend) plus some coconut oil, and Dude is having a quarter teaspoon. Hopefully it helps his teeth!

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It's foul! :lol:

I float mine in some water in a shot glass and skull it back so that I can't even taste it :)

Lol that's what I do, too! How do you give it to your kids? Dude's 19 months so he can't really shot it, at the moment he has it off a teaspoon with jam.

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my 11 month old happily eats it straight off a spoon but my 3,5 yo would just spit it out. We tried rubbing on his bum at nappy change but decided it was important so we got the liquid and I combine it in a syringe with butter oil and squirt it in his mouth. He has a piece of apple (his favourite food) straight after.

If he likes it with jam then go for it! I'd use 100% fruit jam though.

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I new of a girl a while back who's front teeth were discoloured and she told me it was because her mum was on antibiotics when she was pregnant with her. Don't know if that's true or just a myth though :)

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My niece also has a discoloured tooth and her dentist put it down to the same thing.

With the BF, I'd always been of the understanding that it wasn't an issue because when they suckle the nipple is drawn towards the back of their mouths and the milk doesn't really touch the teeth if that makes sense. If you are giving it in a bottle or a sippy cup then it is a different story.

HTH

Just to throw a totally different idea into the mix....
Stomach bile is very corroding on teeth, so if your LO has been sick a bit, throwing up I mean, this could also be a reason


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Bbb think you have hit the nail on the head for me! Ds has reflux and one of his teeth is badly misshapen and pointy. His reflux always gets worse with teething so I think it could explain the way the tooth has formed.

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Bbb think you have hit the nail on the head for me! Ds has reflux and one of his teeth is badly misshapen and pointy. His reflux always gets worse with teething so I think it could explain the way the tooth has formed.

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Hmmm yes I had perfect teeth, never a filling, until I had bulimia, next visit to the dentist was 6 fillings !


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