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DS16 went to his friends house last night, he came home earlier than expected and told me that his friend and the parents were taking ecci's. Now I don't know a great deal about ecci's and what they do but it just blows my mind why a parent would give a drug to their child :wall:.
Regards,
Dianne
Lol, that's crazy. Was he a good friend? How could your son just have learned this, did his friend not ever mention he gets ****ed with his parents? Totally would not be letting your ds go back. That's nuts.
No idea what would make someone think that is ok, then again some parents buy smokes/alcohol for their children which can cause just as much harm if not more!
Bet you are a proud mum though, well done to your son for his honesty and coming home soon!
They are not really close, he lives near us and see each other occasionally. This boy does also drink and smoke at home so DS may have seen him when he was on ecci's but thought it was the effects of alcohol.
Regards,
Dianne
:o You must be proud of your son for coming home & telling you.
:o Are you serious!?
I've heard of parents getting high with their children but ecci's are definitely not something i would give a teenager! Thats just absolutely crazy and i would consider dobbing them in!
You have yourself one smart young man who knew to come home straight away. I'm so sad that he had to witness something like that :( I was out clubbing with a very close friend when she pulled out a plastic zip bag and took one and offered one to me! i said no way but she put in my drink, obviously i threw the drink out but couldn't believe she offered me something like that!
What effect does an ecci have on someone?
Regards,
Dianne
The signs and symptoms of using ecstasy can include:
Increased blood pressure and pulse rate
Dilated pupils
Raised body temperature
Sweating
Loss of appetite
Jaw clenching
Nausea
Nervousness
Confusion
Teeth grinding
Vomiting
Hallucinations
Tremors
Insomnia
Panic
Visual distortions
The consequences of using ecstasy may include:
Chronic sleep problems
Cracked teeth through grinding
High blood pressure
Dehydration
Anxiety
Decreased emotional control
Lethargy
Severe depression
Memory impairment
Nerve cell damage
Serotonin syndrome
Death from heart failure
Rhabdomyolysis – overheating to the point
far out and I agree you should be proud
What kind of friend does that :o You said no but she still put it in your drink?!?! You could have called the cops on her. In fact you should have - teach her a lesson. :shakehead::
I have no idea why i stayed friends with her after that. I guess because i was 19 and niave i really thought she was my friend. We aren't friends anymore for a totally different reason.:
:o :o :o I can't believe any parent would be so stupid! Why on earth would you ENCOURAGE any teen, let alone your own to take drugs!?
My short term memory is shot to bits from taking e's in my late teens. Knowing what I know now about them, I wish I could turn back the clock and never have tried them in the first place.
Well done to your son, for leaving early and telling you what happened. :clap:
It scares me to think if something went wrong, parents are high, there is also a younger child in the family too.
Regards,
Dianne
and it would be for that reason that I would consider taking it further. I know I couldnt live with that on my conscience if something terrible was to happen. Maybe even an anonymous call to the police hotline thing??:
Big ups to your boy for staying well out of it and letting you know :)
Human Services are already involved with the family, I will be giving them a call. There is even more to the story but I don't want to say because it is so very upsetting.
Regards,
Dianne
:o :o What is wrong with some parents???!!! Good on your son for coming home!!
Well done to your boy for leaving and telling you though!
They sound like quality people! those poor kids. if theyre taking happy pills you can garuntee they take downers too, skuzz buckets
Well done to your son coming home early though
wow! you should be mighty proud of your son right now for coming straight home and telling you! The parents need a good kick up the back side for giving it their child in the first place
i see so many young people come in to work who take drugs and its awful seeing them so high and completely out of it! i had one guy who woke up the next morning and apologised profusely for being such a d*%k the night before. they had to restrain him and shackle him to the bed he was that bad!
:hug:
That's child abuse. I'd definately dob them in. Friggin irresponsible parents.
Well done to your son
That's terrible to read :( good on your son for doing the right thing.
Well done to your DS for being so sensible to come home and tell you.
That is terrible that they 1 are using drugs in company of children end even worse they are sharing them!
Hugs hun
I totally agree.:
Can I just say - Kudos to your son! And to you for raising such a responsible son! I'm sorry he was put into this situation by his friend.
MG
Serious? ! I would report them! !
Dianne :hug:. Fantastic that your son felt he could talk to you about this.
E is bad news. There's a whole cohort of adults around my age that bought into the 90s idea that it was a drug whose only side effect was love (!). But it plugs right into the part of your brain that handles mood regulation & healthy sleep and therefore also memory & executive functioning (ie the vast majority of brain functions needed in order to live a full life). I'm sure there are lots of people walking around now with cognitive deficits wishing they knew back then what they do now.
It does sound like there is a lot more going on in that family, so it's a fantastic opportunity to discuss with your kids how to have compassion & empathy for someone while still maintaining healthy personal boundaries. xxx
Ecstasy literally creates holes in your brain.
I have taken it. My memory is shot. I dont know if its the sleep dep or the drugs but I am no where near as intelligent or clear headed as I used to be. It impacts my life significantly and affects my self esteem. I also find every now and then I slur my speech a bit - no idea if others notice it or not but it feels like my brain is slow.
That's pretty low. I would definitely report those parents.
I noticed this thread is 2 years old, what happened with this Dianne?
Ecstasy does not literally create a hole in your brain.
It is actually trialling as a drug to help PTSD specifically in soldiers.
There was an incredibly interesting documentary about it done by the BBC recently and aired on tv here. People took the drugs and were monitored. I was very surprised at how safe it potentially was.
Of course, the actual pills people usually take contain lots and lots of weird and incredibly harmful substances. I believe the pure real MDMA would be very hard to come by.
Well thats what I was taught at school. And I'm pretty sure we watched a video about it too. :/
Whatever. I'm not claiming to be an expert.
I think honesty and truth is so important with children and teens. Telling them untruths about drugs, sex, religion, alcohol or whatever, just to scare them does no one any good. Why will they trust us later if we deny them the truth now.
There is a reason Class A drugs are classed as such.
My 37 year old self would be too terrified to take an ecstasy tablet because without analysing it in a lab, there is no evidence of what rubbish is in there - talcum powder, tranquillisers, aspirin.
I wasn't being rude Calluna, nor do I think I am an expert. I just found the truth about ecstasy very interesting.
Whoops, sorry - I didn't see the date.
Lenny, I would love to have seen that doco - I'm fascinated by all things neuro. My understanding about the PTSD trials was that MDMA was given as a couple of doses (ie only 2-3 times, max) during several months of intensive psychotherapy. ie, it was more an adjunct to make the psychotherapy more effective, not as a (safe) ongoing therapeutic dosage. Everything I've read about it suggests it's a total load kind of thing - so that higher dosages and frequency and length of recreational use is correlated with a higher incidence of cognitive deficits (and no one knows yet whether the observed deficits are permanent or not). Also, I'd like to point out that there are plenty of other neurotoxic medicines currently in use. Just because medications have a therapeutic application doesn't mean they don't leave behind lasting cognitive problems :). But you make a make a very good point that there is potentially all kinds of other nasty **** in street drugs.
ETA - I think the hole in the brain thing came from a show on the telly where they showed images of a PET scan of someone's brain who had used MDMA-based drugs. Of course, viewers didn't understand that it was a 3-D picture of glucose uptake in the brain, and not the brain itself. Some areas had no visible uptake and so it looked like a brain shape thing with large chunks missing out of it.
I saw that doco on abc late at night a few mths ago. See if you can watch it online MD.
Most drugs in their purest form have some medicinal benefit (in the right circumstances!). The stuff you buy on the streets is not pure, it's cut in someone's backyard lab with god only knows what. Not to mention the lack of accurate dosing, possible side effects, addiction… Anyway, street drugs are bad news. I really dislike the term 'recreational drugs'. It suggests that taking drugs is as reasonable a choice as walking the dog or kicking around a footy.
I'd be interested to know what happened to this family, too. I'm horrified on a personal level that any parent would give drugs to their child, but sadly, not surprised.
Wow, this was going back a few years now. This is a really sad story about irresponsible parents who in my opinion have ruined their sons life. I certainly did report them, one night the boy ran away from home and came to my house. He told DS that his step dad had hit him, DS in turn told me and I rang the police. The next day I also rang DHS. This kid has already been in Juvenile Prison twice and has mixed in with a very bad crowd. It makes me quite angry, this boy could have had a very different life if his parents had of led him on the right path. He would be 18 now so adult prison for him if he continues to break the law. It also makes me very grateful that DS was able to recognize the bad behaviour as he could have easily been led astray also.
Regards,
Dianne
oops sorry I wasnt trying to imply you did.:
that sounds familiar.:
Drugs Live: The Ecstasy Trial
It's on again tonight.