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Lenny
nothing2lose
MadB
Wednesday 10th July 2013 :grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - waiting for August cycle, repeat lap in June
Curtysgirl - taking a break
JoeSpratt - taking a break
Sarah4Kurt - taking a break
Beau30 - taking a break
CatyO - taking a break
Juniper - CD0
Jasmine00 - CD1
N2L - CD5
Glorious - CD7
Miss B - CD10
Bestrong (Rosemarry006) - CD17 5dpEPU
Myturn - CD25
Awesty - CD26
Treenie86 - CD26
Emma - CD28
Williever - CD29
Ceejelz - CD47
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW(Stalk them here....LTTTC Two Week Wait 2013 # 3)
Bunnyfeet - CD23 4dp5dt
Rai - CD29 15dpIUI - 5/7 +HPT & hCG 19 @10dpo, 8/7 hCG 58 @13dpo!!
Got Their BFP in July :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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Juniper, hope you dont mind, i edited to put me at CD5.
How rude! :nahnah::
Of course that's fine. Had been wondering how you're doing. :hug:
Lying low at the moment. Concentrating on WOE stuff. Hoping my efforts at better health will pay off when it comes to TTC. I doubt it but you never know.
Im ummming and ahhhhing about going back on DHEA and melatonin. I have a script which will expire in a couple of months so i have to decide....
First post! Girls how many days after your last Pregnyl shot can you have your BT? I have 3 Pregnyl shots to take since EPU does that sound normal? Took my 2nd yesterday and its stirred up the ohss I'm so swollen my bra won't even close today :(
N2L, stranger things have happened, so you never know... It's a crazy, sometimes-unpredictable world we live in...
Bunnyfeet, I have the three booster shots at 3, 6 and 10dpo for my IUI cycles and my beta is scheduled for 16dpo. There would still be some residual pregnyl left at that point (based on what my HPTs are showing), but much too low for it to be a (healthy) pg. I think the official instruction I get is actually to have the b/t 7 days after the last booster, but I ignored that in favour of the contradictory "16 days after IUI" instruction.
Bunny- Not sure how long Pregnal takes to be out of the system.. I didn't use it in my last 2 cycles and I can't remember much from before that! Bigger about the OHSS Xx
AFM- Had my appointment with the FS. He did another scan (so much fun while the witch is still in the house) but said that he can't see any reason why I am bleeding again. He said the only logical thing he can think of is that I didn't respond well to the Progynova. He wants us to start another FET cycle but wants me to take clomid this time to stimulate my ovaries to produce some follicles and hence produce estrogen. He thinks this will be a much more effective way of getting a better lining. Sooo I am supposed to have my Beta HCG done on Friday (apparently it is an auditing requirement that one be done before commencing another cycle) and then start 100mg Clomid on Saturday.
What do you ladies think?? I am a little scared of jumping straight back into another FET cycle :dunno:
Juniper- I guess CD1 for me? And I guess WFT again??
Jasmine, if you don't feel ready, there's no reason why you need to jump straight back in. You can always ask to delay a cycle. I'd be feeling nervous about progressing without having my body return to normal first.
Thanks for your advice everyone! Though I did quietly crap myself when I read the $$$. Have agreed with DH to go and get the info then we can decide what next.
Juniper - bummer to hear you haven't had any luck yet but god you deserve credit for sticking with it, you must be on strong lady!
I'm on CD 26 so AF due any day now!
Bunny, thanks for sharing this to me, I think it is a good idea not to take any med. during the cycle. I am going to try this I think it might work on me too because as I know soda can reduce acidity. Can I buy the bicaronate of soda in chemist warehouse? I think I can find liquorice tea in supermarket. My GP give me Nexium to take as I am not going to start my cycle.
Juniper, I think egg quality is crucial, I don't have confident for this frozen embryo, so I have to do the other stimulation cycle again. I don't know what I can do to improve my egg quality.. I have to try DHEA if my doctor agree fot it.
Jasmine, it is good your doctor give you Clomid instead of Progynova, I might discuss with my doctor with that because my linning is not as good as I normally has when I was taking Progynova.
Ugh. AF due in a few days. Constant cold and sore throat. Cramps beginning....... Sometimes I feel happy to have a new start to a new month, but this time I just want to smash things!
Dear AF,
You suck!
The end!
I've always been told that clomid is really bad for your lining :dunno:
Jasmeen, my doctor has advised me wait 2 cycles, this one which is the m/c and the another one, which we agreed, because anyway we think we will end up doing a FET on October or November I think.
Bunnyfeet, I had 2 Pregnyl shoots, the first one on the day of the transfer, which was a Friday, and the second one was on Monday, and I had the bt 9 days later, which was 16 dpo.
Awesty, our clinic charges $$6,583.70, but we paid only the Gap $3,547.45, then the Medicare refund was $1,675.50, so we ended up paying $1,871.95, plus $750 hospital, Anaesthetist $350 (-$121 Medicare Refund) and $600 Embryo freezing.
Bestrong, I struggle with heartburn and bicarbonate soda works perfectly, I get it from woolworths, and apple cyder vinegar reduces acidity too :) I have nexium tablets too, but I don't really have them very often I used to have one a day before I started having bicarbonate soda and other thing that I get from the USA Picot is the name of this powder and is the best thing ever :D
AFM I have been seeing an acupuncturist since April, one month before I started ivf, but she didn't gave me any herbs, because she said the herbs could interfere with the drugs I was going to have, so it was only the needles :)
We are going overseas and I wont be seeing her until I come back, that's why I thought to ask and see if I can buy some supplements to take with me. ATM I only have Elevit.
Juniper, could you please put me on a break on the list?
I have endometriosis, and I asked the doctor if it wouldn't be better if I had it removed, or whatever they can remove, before a FET, and he says is not necessary at the moment, but isn't it endometriosis bad for implantation? Or shouldn't he give me hormones or some sort of treatment to help? How can I have a surgery to remove endometriosis? Do I go and see oather doctor and ask it to do it? I had a laparoscopy last year and they found that I had endo, but couldn't remove it, because they could damage the bowel and they had to talk to me about it, before to proceed.
I hope what I said makes sense...
Nothing2lose, yeah I have heard the same, but that's when you use it for a few cycles and n high dosage. But I have never used it, so I don't really know...:
I'm in a "let's just get it over and done with" frame of mind right now. Wasn't impressed when AF sort of started last night, then disappeared all day and made me wait until 5:30 this afternoon to start for real...:
I had heard the same, but usually after a few cycles. I think most women are fine the first cycle or two, although there are always exceptions to any rule...:
CatyO, I definitely think it's worth getting your endo treated (ie removed). It will mean losing a little TTC time (usually the lap cycle and the following cycle), but worth it for the boost in your chances. If you have endo on your bowel, ask your GP for a referral to the best surgeon in your area. Or if your FS doesn't do that sort of work, ask them who they'd recommend. That's delicate work and you want the best person possible doing it. If you're in Brissie, I highly recommend my previous FS. I still intend to go back to him for my endo. I had endo covering half of my bowel when he did my first surgery and he removed as much as possible. He did say I'll need a bowel resection one day though, to fix it properly...
Juniper, l am in Adelaide. I think that's what lm going to do after holidays. If i do that early September l still can have a FET on November as we planned anyway.
CatyO, just bear in mind the good surgeons can have long waiting lists and then you wait again for a surgical slot. I got my referral in June last year and had my surgery in August - I had to wait 1 month for an appt and then 1 month for a surgical opening, and that was as an existing patient, not a new one who can often wait longer for that first appt... I'd get the referral now and start the ball rolling. If they offer a surgical spot earlier than you want, you just say you're not available at that time and ask if there's anything in early September. I've always just taken the first one because that's what I wanted (ie ASAP)...
Good point! Thank you very much Juniper, l better sort that out soon.
Thursday 11th July 2013 :grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - waiting for August cycle, repeat lap in June
Curtysgirl - taking a break
JoeSpratt - taking a break
Sarah4Kurt - taking a break
Beau30 - taking a break
CatyO - taking a break
Juniper - CD1
Jasmine00 - CD2
N2L - CD6
Glorious - CD8
Miss B - CD11
Bestrong (Rosemarry006) - CD18 6dpEPU
Myturn - CD26
Awesty - CD27
Treenie86 - CD27
Emma - CD29
Williever - CD30
Ceejelz - CD48
Waiting for Transfer
Hanging out in the TWW(Stalk them here....LTTTC Two Week Wait 2013 # 3)
Bunnyfeet - CD24 5dp5dt
Rai - CD30 16dpIUI - 5/7 +HPT & hCG 19 @10dpo, 8/7 hCG 58 @13dpo!!
Got Their BFP in July :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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I was wondering the same thing about Clomid.. I have heard that it can cause a thin lining but my FS really thinks that it's the way to go. I think he said I will take the clomid to get my ovaries producing some hormones of their own and then take oral estrogen as well if we're not getting a good enough response.
I'm still really unsure if I should go ahead with a FET this cycle or skip a month or two, but I guess we have till Saturday to decide since I'm not supposed to start the clomid till then. If we do go ahead I'm considering tx both our blasts and being done with it... I don't want any more cycles!! In a really dark place at the moment... I don't know why I'm handling this so badly.. I just want it over with and I want to be done with TTC..
I was wondering the same thing about Clomid.. I have heard that it can cause a thin lining but my FS really thinks that it's the way to go. I think he said I will take the clomid to get my ovaries producing some hormones of their own and then take oral estrogen as well if we're not getting a good enough response.
I'm still really unsure if I should go ahead with a FET this cycle or skip a month or two, but I guess we have till Saturday to decide since I'm not supposed to start the clomid till then. If we do go ahead I'm considering tx both our blasts and being done with it... I don't want any more cycles!! In a really dark place at the moment... I don't know why I'm handling this so badly.. I just want it over with and I want to be done with TTC..
Oh Jasmine I hear you. I'm having one of those days too big black cloud hanging over me. My advice is trust your gut about the FET do what feels right deep down. My mom used to always say if in doubt, don't. I'm sure by Saturday you'll know what to do. Hugs :)
My fs prescribed progynova for my clomid cycles. I think I had to take it from day 7-14. Same reason re lining.
Jasmine, honestly, if you're in such a bad place at the moment, it sounds like maybe you need some time to grieve your failed cycle before moving on? It was a big disappointment and there's nothing wrong with needing some time to work through those emotions. :hug:
Jasmine, when I had last cycle I was doubt that the Menopur 1200IU is too strong for me because I read the instruction book there was 600IU one, but it was too late for me to make the other appointment with doctor and discuss it again because if I do that I will miss a cycle. I think when my doctor saw my result he knows he made a mistake. I know it is bad when you are doubt about doctor's instruction and you don't have time to have second opinion from the other doctor. But sometimes you don't know it is working on you or not until you tried. Sorry, I don't really know how to advice you, and you have to make decision to go ahead or not, it is hard.
Catyo, thanks for sharing your experience, I am going to buy some bicarbonate soda today. Could I ask where did you buy this USA Picot, from internet? I really want to make my stomach feel better before I start the other cycle. Hope you will have a nice holiday, after all these stress you deserve it. Actually I am going to organise my holiday to go overseas too.
Bestrong you can gey Bicarbonate of Soda and liquorice tea in supermarkets. And take a really good probiotic supplement like Inner Health Plus that really helped me. My TCM Practitioner advised me against Nexium and Zantac
Bestrong, l get it from ebay, they send it from America, just type "Sal de uvas Picot" in the search bar.
But Nexium, Bicarbonate Soda, Picot l use then when l want to have foods that l know l shouldnt, because they cause me heartburn, like bread (any flour), potatoes, coke, coffee, so the healthiest thing would be to be on a diet to avoid foods that cause you heartburn, l guess...
CatyO just looking at what you paid last cycle, the $750 for hospital was that your health insurance excess? I dont recall that being a listed fee from repromed.. :/ i was thinking that all i had to pay was my hospital excess and then anesthetics would be covered.. argh I feel like little extra's keep popping up and whilst my mum is paying for the cycle I dont want to ask her to pay all the incidentals But we are also on a very tight budget.
I have scan and bloods tomorrow so I will ask for more clarification.
Glorious, I changed my health insurance last year, so it covered Assisted Conception, the thing is that I didn't read that it would cover it only in a public hospital, not in a private hospital, very silly policy as I don't think a public hospital does IVF... so I had to change my health insurance coverage again and until next year will cover the IVF in a Private Hospital, so this time I had to pay $750 for the hospital and $350 for Anaesthetist and Medicare refund for the Anaesthetist was about $120. And I paid the Repromed gap too. I had 2 appointments with my FS and it was about $169 for each one, that's not included in the Repromed Gap either.
I hope this wasn't more confusing :)
Oh I just remembered I got a call from the clinic and they told me that they had good news and I didn't have to pay the hospital (Theatre for egg pick up) and the anaesthetist because the government would pay it, I cant remember what she said, something about a budget... then they called me like 1 hour later and said oh I am sorry, I gave you the wrong information, you will have to pay the theatre and Anaesthetist because the budget ran out...
Thanks Bunny and Catyo, I agreed it is better to take nature products rather than medication. I really appreciate both of you telling me this.
I bought Bicarbonate of Soda and Apple Cider Vinegar today from supermarket, and I have already taken half tea spoon Bi-Carb Soda (baking Soda) in water, it is not nice taste, but it seems alright, less gassy at the moment. I will know it is working or not tomorrow morning because I feel very gassy in the morning. I can't find the Liquorice tea, I looked in the tea section in Woolworth, I did not see this tea. Anyway how to use Apple Cider Vinegar to reduce acid? Put a little bit in the water and drink it? I will go to search this USA Picot on EBay, thanks for the information. I heard "Inner plus" is good, I am going to buy some tomorrow.
My stomach has been bad for nearly half a year and I had my Gastroscopy done and it says I had mild chronic gastritis and mild Oesophagitis. For doing IVF, I start and stop the medication, it doesn't help. So now I need to concentrate to make my stomach feel better.
Bestrong, l have 2 teaspoons of Apple Cyder Vinegar in half glasss of water, twice a day. Some people take it wit more water and drink it during the day.
Just remember the name is "Sal de uvas Picot"
I have had heartburn for a long time, have had some test and all are normal, they tested as well for celiac disease, something like that and was negative, the dr told me just to avoid what l know would make me feel sick and have a nexium only when l indulge in the "bad" food, so l would enjoy having pasta for dinner, then l had to enjoy a Nexium...or be ready to spend the night sitting on the bed and suffering... As Nexium is omeprazole you shouldnt take it if pregnant, so l avoided it after O.
Zantac doesnt do anything for me.
Double post
Bestrong you'll find liquorice tea in health food section of supermarket I think my brand is red seal. If not try a health food shop. try and take the bicarbonate soda after you eat and always drink water after meals HTP :)
Friday 12th July 2013 :grouphug:
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - waiting for August cycle, repeat lap in June
Curtysgirl - taking a break
JoeSpratt - taking a break
Sarah4Kurt - taking a break
Beau30 - taking a break
CatyO - taking a break
Bestrong (Rosemarry006) - taking a break
Williever - CD1
Juniper - CD2
N2L - CD7
Glorious - CD9
Miss B - CD12
Myturn - CD27
Awesty - CD28
Treenie86 - CD28
Emma - CD30
Ceejelz - CD49
Waiting for Transfer
Jasmine00 - CD3
Hanging out in the TWW(Stalk them here....LTTTC Two Week Wait 2013 # 3)
Bunnyfeet - CD25 6dp5dt
Rai - CD31 17dpIUI - 5/7 +HPT & hCG 19 @10dpo, 8/7 hCG 58 @13dpo, 11/7 hCG 164 @16dpo!!
Got Their BFP in July :pray:
M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Becnxavi, Shellbell, Jo_white
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I hate the mandatory Bet HCG that the clinic makes you do even after you well and truly know the cycle has failed!! The poor lady who did my BT this morning at the local pathology is obviously not familiar with this this and politely smiled at me and asked me how many weeks I would be. Don't know who felt worse when I had to explain the situation and the clinic won't let you start a new cycle without the test... Now just waiting for the clinic to call this afternoon just so they can confirm for me again that this cycle was an epic fail... Rant over.
scan showed about 10 ish follicles (just me counting) largest so far 16mm, lining is 7.8mm. will most likely have repeat scan and bloods on Monday, I am hoping for egg collection on friday otherwise it is likely to be Wednesday..
oh hugs jasmine!
Hugs Jasmine :(