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I'm sure I have a slight addiction to the stuff! I cannot go anywhere with out a bottle of it, I have it placed through out the house and hate when others don't have it. I'm worse if I need to visit a hospital and forever pumping it lol
However, I've tried cutting down on the amount I use as my hands are now terribly dry and rough. What's the best hand cream to help repair them?
please tell me I'm not the only one with this addiction to sanitiser?!
Microshield make a moisturiser... :lol:
They are the same company which make the sanitiser and antiseptic soap wash used in most of hospitals. Just feeding your addiction... But seriously, hand sanitisers kill all the bacteria on your hands, including the good ones. Soap and water is a far better option on an everyday basis, save the sanitiser for when you are out and don't have access to a sink when you need to wash your hands.
Ok so I'm a huge germophobe especially when pregnant but hate using that stuff. As it is absorbed into your body so can't be doing you any good either. Maybe try baby wipes when you go out to wipe hands when you dont have access to soap and water and around the house just good ol soap and water. I'm an obsessive frequent hand washer and so my hands get quite dry also, coconut oil is great but also I find moogoo moisturisers are great too. For bad cracks I use the phytocare brand of paw paw cream that is petrochemical free and particularly put that on at night so I'm not washing it off straight away.
Eenee, the sanitiser actually evaporates rather then being absorbed. You wouldn't absorb any more sanitiser than you would soap. But the baby wipes are a good idea!
I usually rinse out some baby wipes (coz i dont like the stuff on them) and put it in a portable soap bar holder and bring that with me to the shops.
The hand sanitiser smells give me a headache lol
Sure you do, things are absorbed very readily through the skin so although it does evaporate some still absorbs through your skin. Especially if you note the smell feeling it leaves behind on your skin. It's why transdermal patches for certain medication administration work so great :) and also why I use chemical free soaps etc :) oh yeah I'm a chemical fearer also lol
Lol I just buy the expensive organic baby wipes with less nasties in them. Another thing you could try if you do that is those flush able nappy liners you can get in a big roll (they are strong enough when wet) that way you just need to wet them before you go.:
Results
The median of absorbed ethanol after hygienic hand disinfection was 1365 mg (A), 630 mg (B), and 358 mg (C). The proportion of absorbed ethanol was 2.3% (A), 1.1% (B), and 0.9% (C). After surgical hand disinfection, the median of absorbed ethanol was 1067 mg (A), 1542 mg (B), and 477 mg (C). The proportion of absorbed ethanol was 0.7% (A), 1.1% (B), and 0.5% (C). The highest median acetaldehyde concentration after 20 hygienic hand disinfections was 0.57 mg/L (hand-rub C, after 30 min), after 10 surgical hand disinfections 3.99 mg/L (hand-rub A, after 20 minutes).
Conclusion
The overall dermal and pulmonary absorption of ethanol was well below toxic levels in humans and allows the conclusion that the use of the evaluated ethanol-based hand-rubs is safe.
Peer reviewed study, sanitiser has been found safe for used in humans (even with excessive application; these results were taken after 30 applications over the course of 1 hour!). Transdermal drug administration is only effective for a limited number of drugs as the skin provides such an effective barrier. Transdermal administration relies on the molecular structure of the drug being very small. Alcohol/ethanol does have a very small molecular structure and is sometimes used as a 'carrier' for drugs with a slightly larger molecular structure to be administered transdermally BUT transdermal drug delivery relies on prolonged contact with the skin. By the time alcohol from a hand sanitiser could be absorbed into the skin it will have evaporated due to ambient exposure. The time it will take for the sanitiser to evaporate is dependent on both the conditions and the amount of sanitiser used.
It does stink though! :lol:
Why didnt i think of that!!! Lol i still have a bunch from when i tried mcns:
I use chux cloths in a ziplock bag for DS when we go out. They're washable, or I just throw them away if they look too gungy. That was what I used for baby wipes too - detest the thought of chemicals on a baby's privates! ;)
Ok. Self-confessed fellow hand-sanitiser lover here.
BUT: Thing 1. When you're at home and you've got a nice moisturising liquid hand wash and a lovely clean towel to dry with afterwards, actually washing your hands will remove any germies. Thorough handwashing technique will beat hand sanitiser anytime.
Thing 2. Nothing wrong with a bottle in your handbag for those times when you can't avoid touching the door handle on the way out of the public toilets... or when there's no soap ... or when the person using the ATM in front of you has coughed all over the place... or when you just really need some sanitiser to cleanse psychological ick factor (LOL).
Thing 3. For times when you really *need* the sanitiser, use one with a more moisturising effect. I use the Aqium gel - because it seems to have some kind of moisturising thing in there. It's one of the reasons it is used widely in hospitals.
Nickle, I love you. Get merry through handwashing. That is the best study EV-ah.
Off to raid the emergency bottle in my handbag now, then banish all soap!
Doesn't hand sanitiser have more ingredients that ethanol? What about the absorption of the other ingredients?
Wine does too but we don't worry about non-ethanol consumption there.
Mine is 62% ethanol (woo!) The rest water, propan-2-ol, some moisturisers inc vit e, lipids and glycerin. And a fragrance, for some reason. All of these are fairly normal stuff for hands.
Yep and like most things they don't list all ingredients on the bottle.:
Really? Legally, inactive ingredients making up more than .1% and active more than .01% must be listed. So all our cleansing products (and more) are not doing this? Why has no-one analysed this and/or reported to the authorities?:
Oh yes, because any extras fall within those tiny tolerances and are near enough not there at all. Rainwater contains more additional chemicals than do hand creams but we din't melt when caught with no brolly.
I do. I choose my wine based on the ingredients.:
I used to love Aquim brand all the time (the Mega large bottle!), then I discovered I loved the Aldi brand smell more lol
I like the Microshield one too.
Its an addiction I need to stop haha
Seriously why does everything have to turn into an argument use it if you will, but the original poster was trying to find ways to stop using it...........:
It's not an argument Eenee it's a discussion. Something that we welcome a lot of here on BellyBelly. And just because someone questions a point of view doesn't mean it's a personal attack or that you are wrong in what you see as a personal risk or belief.
Please don't let this get off track. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I do ask that everyone remains respectful no matter what.
Not helping with the addiction here, but sanitiser is way better at removing germs then hand washing alone. In fact it is so good that hospitals now recommend it over hand washing for hand hygiene.:
It will seriously damage the skin on your hands though. I am constantly using it at work and only heavy duty hand moisturisers will touch the dryness. It will also ruin your nails.
I have just started using the nature direct spray as a hand sanitizer it's all natural and smells good!
Sorbolene cream actually helps kill the rhinovirus that can lead to a cold. So putting that on your hands to moisturise is probably helping your germ killing. ;)
Avagard is the brand my hospital uses. I've just discovered you can buy it online *oh dear*!!!
Nice to see such lively evidence based discussion. (With full respect to those of differing views/opinions.)
Personally I've found the liquid hand alcoholic hand sanitizers less drying than the gels but I'm not sure what brands are available retail (speaking from hospital workplace experience).
My fave hand moisturizer is the l'occitane Shea butter one. It's one of my little indulgences.
Black-rose I have the nature direct hand sanitizer too but I'm doubtful. Does it really do anything? It's just essential oils isn't it?
I use it on the high hair after I've cleaned it and on toys etc but I'm not sure I would trust it to rid my hands of germs if I didn't have access to soap and water.
It's has clove and eucalyptus which are naturally bacterial this is from the website
EnviroMist is a natural disinfectant and odour eliminator made from a blend of water soluble organic plant extracts (e-oils): clove, cypress, eucalyptus, mint, pine, rosemary, savoury and thyme.
EnviroMist kills bacteria such as Salmonella, E-coli and Staphylococcus aureus which can cause food borne illnesses. It eradicates Listeria and Campylobacter which thrive in refrigerators and can cause food poisoning, as well as Pseudomonas aeruginosa and Streptococcus from damp and wet areas around the home.
I think pure alcohol is the common disinfectant in many cheaper sanitisers and that would really dry out the skin. Jurlique and Aesop do natural ones but they're heaps pricier.
Agreed, BUT OP doesn't live in a hospital. And the germ removal thing applies to not hopping germs from patient to patient. But alcohol rubs doesn't actually wash stuff away the same way that soap and water does. Handwashing is still better in instances where your hands might be actually dirty - which is probably most household applications.: