of Junior being able to be placed onto my chest for b/feeding immediately after a c/s??
Was anyone able to hold there baby immediately for longer than 5 mins?
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of Junior being able to be placed onto my chest for b/feeding immediately after a c/s??
Was anyone able to hold there baby immediately for longer than 5 mins?
All depends on your Ob. If you go public you never know who its going to be so it's pot luck. It's worth asking, begging or pleading with your hospital though if you are public, so they know it is an important issue to women.
yep im going public...ill definitely beg!! It seems that most babies get taken away straight away for "checking" and the mother goes to recovery while dad has the bub.
I want my baby straight away and to feed him straight away and I dont want him "checked" until Im ready to go with him. I wonder if they will listen to me?
not definitely-- ill find out more next week.
Danni I think with the majority of us, the c/s has been emergency so we've not been in the frame of mind to fight IYKWIM. After a long labour ending in c/s I had no idea what was going on so didn't even think about BF or anything at the time.
If you're having an elective c/s you can make sure your intentions are known before the date, as well as having the presence of mind to argue at the time. It is most definitely possible to have bub stay with you so long as he's ok. Usually in the time when you're being stitched up bub will have their apgars (which can be done as normal) but also their first injections, but they can wait until you're ready anyway.
At the (public)hospital I went to you can't.
They say its to do with the room temperature in theatre being too cold - I thought skin/slin contact would regulate the baby's body temperature?
:rolleyes: Surely they can put a blanket over the two of you???? Sorry Rachael, not directed at you, that just sounds like a silly excuse to me.
Yep, I know. I was arguing about it at the ante natal classes!
Danni,
This is a HUGE issue and one that needs women's voice.
The largest public hospital closest to me has brought in a policy that babies go straight to their mother. Ray Ray you are absolutely correct skin to skin contact has MANY benefits one of them being an aid to regulation of body temp. Sarah, you are so right - a blanket over both Mama and baby is an answer to the cool air problem (mind you hospitals are airconditioned so go figure. :rolleyes:)
Danni, if you require a c/section and you feel this is very important then you need to be VERY direct about it. It needs to be written in your chart. You need to tell everyone who comes near you. It may not be possible to b/f until you are sutured up but your baby can be placed onto your bare chest. Some obs will pass the baby straight onto the mothers chest as a matter of course.
I hope you can get your needs met - :hug:
thanks guys, its reassured me a little! So i need to march in there and have it written on my forehead and on my lower abdomen too ;)
Caro: breach baby
Im a public patient though so there is no chance of a breech vaginal birth.
Yep there is time for him to turn but he may not. In the mean time he is putting a lot of pressure on my cervix which is killing me...so the sooner the better!
I hope he turns for you Danni......!
Hi Danni, I have a friend who had an elective caesar in the public hossy at Wollongong a year ago. She managed to get in the head midwife's ear about BF in theatre, and the midwife came in, attended the birth and made sure she was able to BF bubs straight away when he was born.
My friend says it made a huge difference in her empowerment and also her recovery time after the surgery. You will need midwife support as well as OB agreement, so maybe work on the midwives as much as the OB.
Good luck, I'll be very interested to hear how you get on, as I'll be having a CS this time in a "Breastfeeding friendly" hospital so will be advocating for the same thing.
:)
no it doesnt seem fair but i guess they are a very busy hospital? i dont know...there is no excuse really
Danni, have you checked out the spinning babies website?
Dani a friend of mine just had her breech bubba turned. It took mere seconds (thankfully bubs was cooperative) and she is a public patient. In fact she's had all of her babies turned as they all sat breech lol. Also the spinning babies website is fantastic!
Sending some turning vibes for your danni!
Tallon turned when DH told him to with a firm voice at the bottom of my belly one night LOL. We also did the torch thing. I physically couldn't stay head down and bum up for the amount of time you're sposed to to turn the bub, so we just did those things. Whether they worked or he was gonna turn anyway, I guess I'll never know :)
WRT the skin to skin.. I thought they could check bub on you these days without taking them away? Tallon was only taken after a while to be put on the scales and measured.. but all the 'checking' was done on me. Of course.. that wasn't c/s.. but I don't see why there'd be a difference?
Good luck :)
thanks guys-- will check em out :)
Danni,
My fourth baby was breech and she decided to go head down after acupuncture and various other things...
Something you can try that I did and I have seen it work successfully with other women...
Babies respond to light and sound - they move their ears and eyes to it. So, shine a torch on your lower belly - just above the pubis. Play music (something quite noisy - loud but not too loud) down there too. Do this 3-4 times a day for about 30 minute increments. I know it sounds a bit out there but I have seen it work and I did it in conjunction with acupuncture.
Maybe some of the BB Melbourne women could give you some advice on a good acupuncturist nearby to you.
Talk to Junior and tell him if it is safe for him to be head down that he please move that way. That may sound out there too but your baby DOES understand you and respond to you...
Goodluck Danni. :hug:
thanks Deb, Junior and I have discussions a lot ;) Although they are a bit one-sided at the moment.
not yet, i will soon.
Acupuncture in the CBD - Iva Baloun is good, lots of successes with her.
You seem to be really leaning towards the c/s though Danni, from the sound of your posts?
OK, Danni, time to get tough with the powers that be. Write a birth plan - you can definitely have one of these even with a C-S! Emphasise the importance of skin to skin contact and immediate BF after birth. Emphasise that you do NOT want your baby taken away from either your sight (if at all possible) or your DH's - there should be no reason that the baby's daddy can't be with the baby after the procedure.
Whoever you have in there with you needs to be yours and the baby's advocate and MUST feel as if they are strong enough to state your case to the medicos.
I hope baby turns for you, Danni! If not, find someone to stand up for you when you're unable to :)
Well said, Shannon :)
Same goes for birthing in water in a hospital that doesn't 'officially' do waterbirths but allows labouring in water...they can't make you get out!
Whatever you decide on, Danni, make sure it's done YOUR way. One way to phrase it in a birth plan is to say that 'if there is no medical necessity, leave the baby with mother for skin to skin contact and immediate breastfeeding'. And then put in the clauses about if they DO need to take the baby, that the father remains with the baby at all times etc.
I had a mostly natural birth (the placenta needed to come out early cos of excess bleeding, and it was a birth centre, so they didn't want to do this, but had to) and even my birth plan had a contingency for an emerg C-S with these clauses. They KNEW what I wanted, in all scenarios.
Inverted positions, meditations where you visualise the baby turning, acupuncture...try it all, honey!
ok i have looked at the spinning babies website and only found a short bit on breech babies? it didnt tell me what to do?
I find it so hard to be in any postition except seated at the moment. Can my fit ball help?
Accupuncture would be good but the CBD is way too far from here, and the local guy costs a fortune. I might have to ring around and see if there are any cheaper ones.
At the moment, I am not too concerned if he turns or not. he's the boss!
With the amount of pain Im in, id rather have him out-- safe and sound on the outside.
I originally said I would never have a c/s no matter what, but after speaking to a few people who recently had them, its not as bad as I thought. There are so many pros and cons for both vag birth and c/s So i dunno!
Ik: thank you. Im definitely going to do all of those things.
Shannon: I think im too scared to attempt the vag delivery. Being a public hospital and lack of OBs there (mainly midwiveS) and they are always so busy..im too scared of something going wrong.
If the BFing is important to you, vag birth will give you a far better initial experience, purely for the physical comfort bit. As you may not have an option (well, they'll let you believe that), I'd be getting in contact with the ABA group in your area, or an ABA phone counsellor, and speaking to someone about advice on feeding after a C-S, in terms of positions etc.
Baby is 'the boss', so to speak, but it's getting your hormones and vibes, so the more endorphins you can run through your bloodstream, rather than adrenaline, the more chance you have of that kidlet turning :) Adrenaline will interrupt the 'normal' flow of things and disrupt what should be occurring, endorphins will allow the natural systems in your body more scope to do what they should be doing, because you will feel too good to think about it and they will have the freedom to act without your input IYKWIM? In other words, relax, do stuff that makes you feel good. Even if this baby doesn't turn, it can only be a good thing to kick back and let your body do what it's going to do, right? I mean, your body knows better than your mind does about what to do from here...how much thinking did YOU have to do to grow that baby in you? You DID it, but not because you worried about it or had much conscious input into the baby growing process! Birth is similar - the best you can do with that pesky mind of yours (and mine, and any other woman who has birthed before) is to think positive, think loving, zen thoughts, and have faith in your body :)
Put it this way, if you are producing those feel-good hormones, endorphins, your body is physically incapable of simultaneously producing adrenaline, which is a stress hormone that interrupts normal programming (much like a storm warning during TV watching!). That is not just a hippie theory, it is physiological fact. Knowing this saw me obsessively doing my breathing, because deep breathing promotes endorphin production. Make sense?
Anyway, I think I've said enough!
Thinking of you and wishing you the very best experience you can have, regardless of the birth method :hugs:
thanks Ik, certainly does make sense :)
Having a baby two to four weeks earlier than they are due (cos due dates aren't always right!) carries risks too. If you do decide to have a breech birth, you can ask for midwives and doctors who have experience in breech birth. Or you could opt to see an Ob who does breech birth regularly, but that would mean private fees tho.
If you choose a caesarean, I certainly hope you can make some ground at the hospital, they need to start listening to women and supporting beneficial practices like immediate skin to skin and breastfeeding... all the best with what you choose :)
Thanks Kelly...i wish I did have the funds to opt for a private ob. Meredith's birth story truly was an inspiration!
Believe me, I will definitely make it known to EVERYONE in the hospital that no one is taking away my baby if I have the c/s. They wouldn't dare try ;)
Somehow I believe you Danni! :p:
good sez! Cos its true :D
Ok, maybe we can get this thread locked now? My initial questions have been answered and Im happy with the information I have now....It seems to be getting way off topic here and my choices are being judged
I don't think anyone is being judgemental, but happy to close it for you.