Public Tubal Reversal??

Hi Everyone,
I know this probably isn't the right place for this thread, but I had to give this spot a go....
I have done months and months, stacks and stacks of research into having a tubal reversal done.
All I can find here in Sydney is that I casn only have it done privately and pay close to $10,000 or travel to Melbourne, wait over a year and have it done in the public system at the Royal Women's Hospital.
Travelling to Melbourne of course is financially a better option for us, but the waiting will kill, plus scare me as I am now 33.
Does anyone out there know if there is a hospital anywhere here in sydney that does this op via the public system.
I would love any help/info I can get at all.
framaine.....

hi framaine. i live in qld and i had my tubes reversed 12mnths ago. i went on the waiting list and i waited a couple of years. anyway to have them reversed at that same hospital i think it cost about $3000

Hi, I think that any place you go to have the reversal you will prob have to wait for a while, Im not sure if thats the case if you are going private. I had my op done for free at the Royal Womens in Melbourne, they told me I would have to wait at least 12 months I had the op 9 months after the initial appointment. I know it seems a long time to have to wait but time really does fly !! Tell them you are available to go in if they have a cancelation, who knows you may be lucky.
Speaking from experience, try not to stress and all the best for the future.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you onemore, your words are very encouraging. My first appointment at the Royal Women's is on the first of October. I will be telling them that I am available at all times of course. A little earlier tonight it was confirmed by my gp that i have poly cystic ovary syndrom. He has started me on medication for that already, and the best part is that it helps me lose weight too, biggggg bonus. This will all help me get ready for the op when the time comes...
Tell me more about you, was the op a success??

Hi framaine,
Iv`e just gone 12 months post-op, unfortunately no luck yet but my GP keeps telling me not to worry its early days yet. Healing for me after the op took longer than expected, the wound didn`t heal untill about 7 weeks after the op. I had to fly from Melbourne to Kununurra (which is about 5 hours) a week after the op then a couple of days later my DH`s work had a 4x4 driving trip which I must say was a bit rough, so all this probably didn`t help that much. Then all the stress of trying to get pg only makes things harder.
I can tell you the more you obsess the less likely you are to fall. (It has taken me this long to realise though) The op does play havoc with your body, up untill the last 2 months af has been all over the place.
I am heading back to the Royal Womens on Aug 24 to have the dye put through to make sure all is still in working order, I`m nervous but excited at the same time. At least I will know what is happening in there.
If you want to chat some more send me a PM and I will answer any questions as best I can, nice to have someone to talk to about this..

Hi onemore,
Once again thanks for the help. I would love to talk more, but will need you to forgive my ignorance.
To date I haven't sent a PM on this forum and wouldn't have a clue as to what to do...
Help, would love to chat more. I have so much going on in my head. So many questions.

Hi framaine,
tried to send you a PM but it said you were unable to recieve them, I havn`t acctually sent one before now either so not sure if I done it correctly.
If there`s anyone out there who can help that would be great.

Hi onemore,
Sorry I haven't been around for a few days. I work in the wonderful world of retail as a store manager of a fashion jewellery store. Every Thursday is a huge day for me. I start at 8am and go right through the day till 9pm.
What I would love to know the most is, what happened at your first appoinment at the hospital, what were the questions they asked you, did they do any tests and what were they, and were you told there and then that they could do the op and you were put on the waiting list??
Lots os questions i know, sorry... I can only imagine how it must have been the same for you.
I can't thank you enough for being there.
Take care, Framaine..

Hi framaine,
wow 8am to 9pm I don`t think I could handle that, we own a servo/mechanical store and I work from 8:30-about 5, then get to go home and do all that boring housework and cooking tea, don`t like it very much. Although it is nice not to have anyone to answer to, and I can hop on line whenever I like.
The first appointment was nothing like I expected, I had been warned that you have to see a councelor to make sure you are making the right choice for the right reasons, so was a little nervous. The Dr we saw was wonderful, he asked us some general health questions, age, family history, previous pregnancy`s , why we want to do this etc. If they havn`t already asked you for your sterilization info from the Hospital where you had it done I would look into that as I had to have mine sent over before the first appointment. DH had to have sperm count test which we aranged to have done on the same day and you get the results from that about 2 hours after the test. They will also ask to take some blood from you for various tests.
Then speaking from my experience they should put you on the waiting list right away if all is OK

Forgot to mention, there is no councelor!!!

Thanks for all of that. Very valuable info indeed.
I don't have the info from when I had the TL done, but I do have an x-ray report that I had done not too long ago stating that there were still 2 clips and where they were. I wonder if that would be enough for them.
Plus would it be worth my DH having his sperm test done here in sydney before we go to the appointment. I wonder if they would take that into account and use it to save time both for them and us.
After you had the op did they put you on any medication to help with ovulating etc..
I am already taking metformin because I am also dealing with PCOS
(Polycystic Ovary Syndrome).
Once again, thanks heaps for the info and just for being there, it really is great having someone to talk to about all this with.
framaine

Morning,
x-ray should be fine I think they just like to know how the procedure was done, clips are much better than cut or whatever else they do to sterilize. I thought they would have asked you to provide the details when you rang them, I would take the x-ray with you when you go.
Would prob be easier for you hubby to have the test done closer to home, the only reason I had it done in Melbourne was because here in Tassie we had to go to Hobart which is at the opposite end of the state to where we are. Just give them a call I`m sure that would be fine.
I was not given any medication for ovulation, wish I was though.
Don`t know if I mentioned before but af has only become regular for the last 2 months, hopefuly its a sign of good things to come.
I go for the dye test in 3 weeks (to check the tubes are clear) so if all is ok I will ask them about clomid, I believe thats a pretty good drug.
Must go and do some work, take care and will chat soon.

Hey framaine,
haven`t heard from you in a while, hope all is well.
cya

Hi darl,
How are you, hope you are well. Sorry I haven't been in touch for a while. You know how it is, not enough hours in the day, not enough days in the week... (Remember i work 13 hours on Thursdays)
Plus I haven't been feeling the best the last coule of days. Mood swings are running out of control at the moment. Today i felt really flat, tired all day, everything I did was just one hell of a chore, and all I wanted to do all day was cry. Then to top it all off, i am now feeling really nauseous. YUCK!!!!
On the up side, I had an appointment with my gyno yesterday. He said all is going well, as well as the metformin medication he has now put me on the pill to try to control the hormones. Thank god.....
He said I have a fantastic chance of falling pregnant once i have the op. WOOHOO
While i was there he also did a pap smear and said the next time he has to do another one i should be a new mum, YEY.......
Can i ask you more about your situation, if you don't want to get too personal i understand. But I would love to know things like, how old you are, how long before the reversal did you have the ligation, do you know how long your tubes are, and do they know or have some idea as to why you haven't been able to fall pregnant yet??? If i remember rightly it was about a year ago now that you had the op done....
Anyway, enough from me for now, gonna see if i can try to get rid of this sick feeling.
Have a great weekend darl, hope it's not too cold down there.
Will talk again really soon.

Hey you, yea a womens job is never done. Hope you feel better soon it`s a horrible bug going around touch wood I havn`t got it yet.
I don`t mind talking at all I just wish I had have found this site before I had my op. I will be 29 next Saturday I had my tubes tied in 2002 absolutly sure I had made the right choice !! Started having doubts in 2004, took me ages to say something to my hubby and he wasn`t real keen on the idea of more children, I was a mess for about 6 months then we decided we would give it a go. In the begining my hubby said yes only because it was tearing me apart, I had this feeling of something missing and not just a baby, the fact I could no longer have children hit me like a brick and on the other hand I felt I deserved it because that was what I chose. I was on the waiting list for about 9 months, had the op June 28 last year. Iv`e been to the Dr and she tells me not to worry to much yet but being a bit anxious Iv`e booked to have the dye put through my tubes to check they are not blocked so fingers crossed.Any way I hope I havn`t rambled to much, have a good weekend sweet.
Talk soon

Hi Darl,
God our situations are so alike. I too, feel the same that you did. All of what you said, is me all over. Including the part about your hubby. My hubby was exactly the same in the beginning. Now he is all for it and is really starting to get into it.
When I had my ligation done about 7 years ago, I was pushed into it by both my now ex-husband and by my family.
I too, like you, felt like part of me is missing, that what makes me a women, my god given right as a female, was taken away.
As my hubby now says, i wasn't born with the clips, so it just isn't natural for them to be there.
I will certainly have my fingers crossed for you in a couple of weeks when you go to have the dye test done. I will be thinking of you and be here for you...
Please don't feel that you ramble about this stuff either darl. (I think I do the same).
I love to find out about as much about all of this as I can. I can't thank you enough for sharing your story with me and many others too.
Sometimes I think that this has consumed my whole life and i can't think of anything else. I have even already bought a baby name book. CRAZY HEY!!!
I can't figure out if it is just wishful thinking, or i have convinced myself it will work. Or maybe it was my hubby and his positive outlook on everything, saying that we both have had kids before with our previous partners so why couldn't we have one together. Plus, i not all that long ago had my taro cards done and they said it was there in the cards. The cards showed a baby, and a girl at that. My life long dream to have a girl. If I was to have a boy i would be over the moon, that goes without saying, but a girl would just top it all off nicely.
Anyway, (Ramble, ramble, ramble). My turn i guess. Hahahaha
Gonna get out of here. Work again tomorrow, but got the day off on Sunday.
Take care darl, talk again real soon for sure.
P.S. By the way, call me Charmaine. "Framaine" comes from both myself and my husband Frank.......

Framaine...you are not crazy at all.I have already started buying baby things!!!!!I hope its not bad luck so im sure a baby book isnt going to hurt.

framine........i live near newcastle and had my reversal at newcastle privatly through sydney ivf a doctor called dr woolnough, it cost us around $5500-$6000 cant remeber exactually, but we did get some money back through medicare ( not much) this doctor actually has a package of your stay in hospital,doctors bills etc, which you have to pay before or on the day you are admitted, after seeing him for the first time i was booked into hospital 2 weeks later, this might be a bit cheaper option than sydney, and your not that far away.......yes i had sucess from the operation, but it took me 18 months of trying, i had 2 m/c prior, and it was only after i decided not to try any more i fell pregnant, as i was obsessing about it........so onemore try and chill out....easier said than done....mind you we are ttc again so knowing me the obsessing will start again.:)

Thanks for the info chrissy. Unfortunately for us money is a huge problem. Not only do we have the usual bills, mortgage, rates, car, visa, etc, etc, we have to pay out over $800 a month in child support too, to kids we don't even see. (Sux big time).
Having the reversal done privately and paying out that amount of money just is not an option for us. That's why we are going to the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne, because all though the wait for the op is at least 12 months, it is at no cost.
Having this op and a baby means more than anything to myself an DH but if the money isn't there, it just isn't there... If only either one of us had rich parents...
We head off to our appointment on the first of October. So not too far away, but at the same time it feels like a lifetime too.
I'm glad everything went well for you and i wish you well on your next try.
Hi mumof5, thanks for joining us here. I think i have spoken to you before on another thread. Isn't it amazing how babies and wanting to have them, controls our lives and everything we do???
Feeling really really flat today. Only because i want a baby more than anything, and i am the most impatient person on the planet. I want to be pregnant and i want to be pregnant 5 minutes ago. If only money grows on trees so i could have the op done sooner. I've spent all weekend looking at pics of my beautiful baby niece who is just on a month old, and although i love her to pieces, she breaks my heart too. When not looking at my niece (auntie's little peanut), i was looking at videos of births on youtube.
I fear that for some reason they will not be able to do the op, or it will not be successful, and that she will be the daughter in will never have......
Maybe it is better if i go for a while, maybe come back when i have had my appointment in october. Maybe i need time out from all the baby stuff for a while and concentrate i what i already have and not what i want but don't yet have.
What do you all think girls???
God i can go on sometimes, so sorry everyone.

Framaine- I know what you mean i can so hear you. I wish i didn't have my reversal as i had to borrow the money in the first place and it didn't work anyway so its just been a waste of money. When one of the other BB girls (Crazymum2) told me about the IVF at Westmead and how cheap it was i jumped at the chance($1,450 For a complete hole IVF cycle). If i had of none before hand that ivf could be this cheap i would have gone IVF straight away and i could of had a baby by now. But we all make our mistakes and we all learn from them. Im very happy with what we are doing now and its only taken 8weeks to get to this point,only another15days to go!!!
take care
Em

Hi all,
yea I know I need to chill and this is nothing to what I was like 8 months ago !!
I go for the patency test in 2 weeks so it will be good to know what`s going on, although I am really scared about the results Im trying to be possitive.
I think getting baby stuff is just something we all do because I started getting a few things before I had the op and now my sisters have started giving us all there baby gear, my aunt gave me a pram the other week and Iv`e got about 5 boxes of baby clothes so hopefuly I will use them one day soon.
Chrissy all the best ttc and I hope your journey is a short one, if you don`t mind me asking, how many children do you have?
Good night everyone..

Sorry Chrissy (ttc#7) just noticed it.
Charmaine it is so tough and we have all been through it so please don`t be affraid to talk to us.
When I was at the start of my journey it seemed everyone around me was pg, and with the best of intensions one of my friends who was pg said to me "don`t worry we can share my baby" now that was a really sweet thing to say but the thing was it tore my heart out, I didn`t want to "share" someone elses baby I wanted my own. My cousin also had just recently had a bub and I would find myself there once a week for a cuddle only to leave and cry for the rest of the night, I can`t believe I put myself through that.
Charmaine, my app is Aug 24 shame it wasn`t a few days later, we could have met up. Take it easy sweety and be strong, where there`s a will there`s a way !!

Hi Ladies,
Hope you are all well and had a good day.
I can't thank you all enough for your support and words of comfort.
All is good here today. Pain from my PCOS is really extreme, to the point that i had to take my heavy duty pain killers, at work too. I am the store manager of a jewellry store, that does body piercing, i was that stoned from the pain killers, i had to get my 2ic to do all the piercings. She thought it was so funny.
Not gonna go on tonight like i normally do tonight. Just thought i would pop in and say hi before i head to bed.
Once again, hope all is good and you all had a good day.
Take care everyone, talk soon.
Charmaine

Hi Charmaine, sorry that you havn`t been feeling well.
Body peircer hay !! just the person I need. About 3 years ago I had my(don`t tell anyone !! ha ha)
nipple pierced and now I want it out but for the life of me I don`t know how. It`s very overated you know. So do I need to go back to the piercer or is there a way I can take it out myself ? It`s a ring with the ball in the middle.
Chrissy, this is probably a bit off topic and not real nice to talk about but was reading your post about m/c twice and wondered if you were to have an early m/c would you know ? It`s just that a couple of months ago af was 3 weeks late ant then she came with a vengance and (sorry if graphic) realy dark clotting, didn`t think much of it at the time but now just wondering if it`s possible I may have m/c.

Hi everyone,
Hope you all had a good day.
Onemore, nice to hear from you. About your piercing, that is a secret, hahaha
It sounds like what we call a b.c.r. ring. The ball is held in place only by little indentations on either side where it is attached to the ring. Because it is a sensitive area you may need to use a pair of plyers. Stretch the ring open with the plyers of course, and then the ball should just fall away from the ring. This can be done easily enough at home, but if your not too sure about it, head to a piercing place and get them to do it for you. Of course, if you do it yourself, make sure that your hands, the plyers and the ring is very clean (Sterile) before you start anything, to reduce the risk of infection.
Hey, i just remembered, only 16 days to go for you right???
Very exciting....
Things are getting that way for me too. In the next few days i should get a copy in the mail of my medical record from when i had the ligation done. That should tell me how long my tubes are, and the longer they are the better i'll feel, cause i know from my research that the longer they are the more chance i'll have of falling pregnant. Plus in the next week or so my hubby is off to have his little test (hahaha) done. That is one thing that is worrying me heaps, so to get that out of the way will be a great relief.
Pain wasn't too bad for most of the day, until about 4 when it hit with a venegence, so again i spent the arvo stoned at work from the pain killers. My 2ic thinks it's sooo funny....
Pain isn't too bad now thank god.
Good luck with your piercing darl, if you need any more advice, ask away ok.
Take care, talk to you soon.
Framaine xoxox

Hi Charmaine,
Thanks for the info, I will give the plyers a go.
Yea only a couple of weeks left till my appointment, I am a bit scared of what the outcome will be, not sure what I`ll do if the tubes are blocked. I am meant to be staying with family that night but I think I will wait untill I have the results to decide what to do as I don`t think I would be very good company, If its bad news I will just stay at a hotel so I can be on my own, but if the news is good I will want to tell the world, anyway fingers crossed all turns out well.
Hope all goes well for you guys, the sperm test isn`t that nice but I`m sure your hubby will be fine.
When my hubby had his it was so funny, you gota feel a bit sorry for them though, they send you into a private room with girlie mags and then the TV comes on with a blue movie, thats what happens in Melb anyway, he thought it was all a bit off-putting. He did get the job done though.
Take care and will talk soon

Hi onemore,
Just wanted to ask you if you will get your results straight away when you go in, or will you have to wait???
I am hoping and praying for you that it is a good result.
Also too, how long did it take to get the results from hubby's test??
Bit of a really personal question here, don't answer if you choose, but can i ask did you guys close the fun factory (That's what i call the fun stuff in the bedroom) for a few days before the test was done?? I hear that it is a good thing to do to help increase the chances of a good count.
Anyway, gotta fly, got lots of housework to get done today.
Might pop back in a little later on.
Have a great day darl, take care. Talk soon.
Charmaine xoxoxox

Hi Charmaine, sorry I`ve been realy rude !! please call me Kristy.
The test is done at 12:30 and then I see the Dr at 1:30 for the results, can`t wait but on the other hand I don`t realy want to know !!
The (wiggly) count test results only take about an hour, my hubby had the test then when we went to see the Dr about an hour later he just called the lab and got the results.
From memory the "fun factory" was open but Iv`e heard the little guys are stronger if left for a couple of days so If you want the count to be at it`s peak I`d hold off 2 days prior.
Take care
Kristy xxx

Hi Kristy,
So sorry I haven't been around for a while. Once again, crazy times around here. I could certainly do with another couple of hours a day, and a few more days a week too.
All is good here. How about you darl???? You must be getting pretty excited, yet nervous at the same time. Not long to go at all now.
How is everything with you and your family, are you still feeling the worst that winter has for us, or is it starting to warm up like it is here in sydney???
Oh, how did you go with your piercing????
Talk to you soon, take care
Charmaine xoxo

Hi Charmaine,
I`m ok thanks really nervous I was really hoping to be pg this month and not have to deal with everything else comming up !! wishful thinking.
We are all good here thanks, we spent all of last year in Kununurra WA so are really feeling the cold, starting to wish we never came back to Tassie, we have just started to get some rain the last couple of weeks, the weather is all over the place at the moment.
Havn`t had a go at the peircing yet but will soon.

Take care and will chat soon
Kristy xxxx

Hi Kristy,
Have to tell you a funny story, but one that may also at the same time make you feel a little sick too.
Last night at work, a couple in their mid to lat 40's, i think??? came in with their 20 something son.
The son ask me about some body jewellery for a piercing he had done very recently. Silly me asked him where as he didn't have any visable piercings. At that very moment, in the middle of the store, he undid the zip on his jeans and took out his pocket rocket from his pants, and said to his dad, "Cop that dad".
But that's not all,
The father then did the very same thing and revealed to his son that he had the same thing and neither one knew about it.
A mental picture burnt into my memory forever i tell you. Quite alot of people that come in for some reason feel the need to tell us all about their piercings, and some of them tell us their whole life stories too, but never before have i seen that in the middle of the store on a very busy thursday night, and i never want to again either.
Wanna swap jobs by any chance?????
Take care darl, talk son
Charmaine xoxoxox

Oh my !!! my first thought is OUCH and then eww. Would you say that is the most tender area to have a piercing ? or would the female anatomy be worse ? not that I ever intend to go there !!
Talk again real soon
Kristy

Hi Kristy,
As far as the piercings go, I'm not too sure, I only have my ears and my nose done. Mind you i have 3 holes in each ear lobe and 1 up high in my right ear.
When i lose the weight that i am hoping to before i have the op i have told myself that my reward to myself will be getting my belly done. I love them, i think they are really pretty, really feminine.
Unfortunately I am writing this while in bed. I woke up with the worst pain this morning. It didn't go away even when i was at work, so i took off to my doc.
He seemed to think that something is wrong with my right ovary and gave me some more pain killers and some anti-inflammatories. He said that when i see my gyno on thursday there is a good chance that he will put me in hospital and do a laparoscopy...... BUMMER. I hope there's nothing wrong.
Anyway, about you now, how you doing darl, nervous????
I can imagine that you well and truelly are by now. Only days to go now.
Just remember darl I will be thinking of you and here for you. You definately are not alone on this journey...
Take care, all the very best of luck, and i hope next time we talk you will have the very best news.
Bye for now, Charmaine xoxoxox

Hey Charmaine, how are you doing ? hope your feeling better.
I`m feeling pretty good thanks about the test, deep down I think everything will be ok and just need a bit more time, but I also want to be realistic and be ready for the worst outcome if that was to occur.
I finally got the ring out !! I have a set of small tools for jewelry making so used them, first I tried to use the pliers but that would`nt work so I thought stuff it I`ll cut the blasted thing out so got my little cutters and squeezed the ring but it was really hard so had to have another go and the ball shot off like lightning, still havn`t found it !! I would like to have my belly done later on, I think they look really pretty too. I also am trying to loose weight, not having much luck at the moment, it`s too cold to go outside walking can`t wait till it warms up a bit, better chance of falling with a bit less padding around the middle section !! but with work and home and the cold I just don`t seem to have any time left. I try to do 20 mins of exercise dvd every weekday morning, gets a bit boring doing it on your own though. Anyway I think I`ve babbled on enough for tonight so will goand will talk to you again soon. Thanks for being here for me hun.
Kristy xxxx

Hi Charmaine, well I`ve been and had the test. wish I hadn`t, both tubes are blocked and IVF is the only option now. I really can`t believe this has happened It just doesn`t seem fair. I just feel numb inside.
Anyway might go and will catch up later.
Kristy

Oh sweety, I really feel for you. My tears are your tears darl. You were my hope...
I'm not going to be patronising and say, stay strong, and look at the positives, because i know how i would feel if i was told the same.
I guess you and your hubby have a lot of talking to do, and some pretty heavy decisions to make too. I don't know how you guys feel abiut IVF and what your ideas on it are. Whether it is an option for you guys and you will consider giving it a go.
All i can say is, Good luck with it all, and I am always here for you. I wish I knew how we could talk privately, that way i would leave you my other details and we could talk properly, well at least voice to voice.
Please, please, please take care darl. WIll talk again real soon.
Charmaine xoxoxo

Hi Framaine- if you click on onemores name in the above post a thig will drop down. It says send a private message to onemore. Click on that

Thanks so much for that mumof5.
I have been following your journey too. It sounds like things are going well so far. Fingers crossed for you darl.
Keep in touch.
Take care.

Thanks Framaine all the best of luck to you too!!!!
Take care XX

Hi Charmaine, thanks for the support.
Sorry I havnt got back to you earlier wasn`t really upto talking and I was feeling sorry for myself and didn`t want to put a dampner on the whole reversal subject. Unfortunately doesn`t look like this was the way for me, but please don`t let this put you off and doubt yourself to go through with your reversal because let me tell you I would do it all again. It`s weird but now that I have settled I still have that feeling that my dream is still a reality, prehaps not the way I had hoped but none the less still a posibility.
Do you have a mobile? If you do you can text me my # is 0439 581 544. I would love to have a chat if the offer is still open.
Thankyou, Kristy