Info about private midwives please

OK so yes I am already thinking about number 2.

Someone said in another one of my posts that forewarned is forearmed so im starting early :D

If I MUST go to that awful horrible understaffed and overcrowded hospital again...I want someone with me who actually cares about me. (apart from DH of course)

And if I have a ceasarean again, I want to be able to have my baby in recovery. This can happen if you have your own midwive right? (i hope so)

Also, what costs am I looking at and hoew does it all work?

thanks xx

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/find-a-doula/

danni, I too am looking into having a doula with me for my next baby. As I haven't used one before, I can't give you my experience. See if you can track down some doulas from the link, and email a few with some questions, and talk/email their references. That's what I'm doing at the moment.
Good luck.

Hey Darl, I think it has to be a midwife rather than a doula doesnt it?

yeah, maybe. I didn't realise you could have your own private midwife.

hey danni im in melbourne and was thinking maybe you went to the same horrible hospital as me!! cause thats what i think of mine..
if you have another c/section put it into your birth plan that you want baby in recovery with you!!!

hey maddysmummy, i went to sunshine and am very happy to announce to the world how horrible it was.

they said NO BABIES in recovery cos we dont have enough midwives...so thats why im thinking to get my own?

Why do you have to have a midwife to go to recovery with you and the baby?? If it is 'routine' that one stays after a natural delivery then why isn't is the same after a c/s???? And if one doesn't stay after a natural delivery then what is the difference?

Mmm I had never heard of that before. I had Sammy with me in recovery with a particular midwife popping in with me every now and then but not constantly.

Jo

Our hospital (cairns base) said the same thing caro. If I ended having c/s, then you need to have sufficient time to recover. Also, the recover room is for all surgical patients. And usually there isn't enough room for a baby and/or partner to come in. My hospital said if they did a c/s during the night, when it's the quietest, then they let baby and partner go in with the mother. But during the day, it's too busy.

Just to add my 2 cents *lol* I'm going to the Freemasons, and they have the same policy as Sunshine...for all C/S no babies in recovery :( When I questioned it, it came down to staffing levels...not the fact that it was a different type of recovery unfortunately.

I'm with you Danni...next time round I'm going to be more prepared...unfortunately a little too late for me at the moment. Just hoping this baby decides to come on their own!

Hi Danni

it is your right to have your baby with you in recvovery after C/s...most women are led to believe that you can't have your baby with you. The only reason you couldnt have your baby with you is if there are complications with either of you, and then safety is the issue. Otherwise simply tell them that your baby WILL be staying with you, and even tell your Dr b4 hand if possible. It is your baby afterall. You dont need a midwife to enforce this...but an empowered and fearless birth partner (which can also be a lovely doula, or even a friend if hubby doesnt want to make waves with the staff).

hope this helps :)
yogababy

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Because you are recovering from major surgery. Its a medical issue and recovery is completely different
With a natural or vaginal birth there is no *recovery* as in surgical recovery.

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Yeah I know but I don't get what that has to do with having the baby there with you. You have a nurse in recovery with you to deal with any issues. The midwife would be for the baby and why would the baby have any other issues if it was a c/s delivery and not natural.
I am just curious!
And I agree with yogababy, who has the right to take a baby away from it's mother at birth. No-body!

Hey Bec

hospital protocol means that a midwife must be with a neonate...and a nurse is not trained specifically in the care of a newborn. Also a C/s baby has a potential for increased complications...such as respiratory issues, simply as they dont have the squeezing action on their lungs to help remove 20-50mls of amniotic fluid. They can also get cold quickly, theatres are cold, and they have not had the natural hormonal release associated with a vaginal delivery.

it is rather medical isnt it :(

:D yogababy

Is a neonate classed as being from either vaginal or c/s delivery?? If it is either, and it was an elective c/s I could understand not having the staff, but if it was an emergency then they would have had to have the midwife there for if it was natural anyway. Surely skin to skin is the best way to warm up a new baby, dad could do it if mum was unable.
Yes, definately too medical!
Thanks for the info!

sorry bec...neonate is the term for brand new baby
and you are sooo right skin to skin is the best way to warm up a baby. Thats why its so important to have a birth plan especially if you have a booked c/s...then you can make the birth of your baby special...not just another routine c/s

:D yogababy

Danni, why would you need another caesar? Why do you even need to go to hospital for that matter?

Are you going to plan a VBAC Danni? Or will you have an elective c/s?

At this stage Kel, I am planning a VBAC but with so many cervix probs i have to be prepared for another c/s

Oh no I must have missed something! What cervix probs do you have hon? Even women who have had cervix surgery previously and even parts of their cervix removed have had successful vaginal births, from what the midwives tell me, it's often slower to dilate due to scar tissue, and patience is needed. Slower starts sometimes but all goes beautifully. I would definitely suggest chatting to a private midwife before you make plans so you are armed with some facts and experiences to get in the right frame of mind, and so hospital policy doesn't get in the way of you having a perfectly safe vaginal birth.

Plan for a VBAC, or if you just plan for a c/s then you definitely will have one ;) Surround yourself with the VBAC cheer squad to keep positive and see it's possible and yes, be conscious that it may happen but at the moment from your posts sounds like you are resigned to the fact you will have one. :(

If you want to find some MIPPs, there is a list here: http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au...ndex.php?id=15

Ive had 3 or maybe 4 operations on my cervix due to abnormal cells and I have had a couple of biopsys and some of my cervix removed. Its pretty tough the doc told me with lots of scar tissue...and apparently I have a very high chance of losing my babies within the first 14 weeks.

My doc said that I can have a trial by scar, but if the labour goes too slowly they will do an emerg c/s. arrghghhh the decisions are awful!

I might speak to Alan? I wonder if he is in melb!

There has been a recent discussion about someone who had the same procedures and I posted heaps of replies from midwives, maybe in third tri or labour forums - they all said the same thing - labours all went beautifully, just slow to start. Many doctors have a problem called failure to wait - not failure to progress on the mother's part. I think there is nothing wrong with doing that if there is no sign of distress from the baby or yourself. So why just section when it's just not going fast enough for their liking, with no signs of problems? Definitely get yourself an IM if you plan to birth in hospital with challenges from the docs like you have mentioned.

ty kel, i definitely will

Hi Danni,

Lots of hopes and thoughts coming your way for a better experience next time. Maybe a different hospital and different CP? I supported one woman with previous cervical surgery, she went fine, it is possible. Hope you find the ideal IM.

Hospitals do not say no baby in recovery to be nasty it is because of a few reaosn firslty a midwife must stay if the baby stays as theatre nurses are not qulaified to look after them and staffing in maternity units means that the midwife must return to the ward to look after other patients as they are not luckey enough generally to only have 1 pt if that was teh case they could stay with baby in recovery.

Also theatres are cold and sometimes babies can have breathing problems after a cs and sometimes mums can recover a bit differntly to others.

A cs is major abdominal surgery and can have major complications as can any surgery. If a mother has had a genreal anassthetic they can be very sleepy and unsafe to even hold a baby in bed, and after a spinal they cant move around the baby freely as numb.

Hi,

Just wanted to say first hand that previous cervical surgery doesn't mean things will go wrong.

I have had a couple of biopsies (?spelling), laser surgery to remove CIN3 from a large area of my cervix as well as an operation to remove a ovarian cyst that meant I have a 4 inch scar (like a c-sect scar) as well as only half an ovary.

None of this was considered to be a problem by my hb midwife when I was planning the birth of my son. In the end we didn't have a homebirth as we transferred after a couple of complications.....However!!! without my hb midwives I would have ended up with a very different birth to the one I had. I had an augmentation at the RWH but with no other intervention. My baby was birthed vaginally with no other drugs, forceps, epi's etc. She did an amazing job of keeping all the other stuff at bay so I could get on with birthing the baby.

You cannot go past the experience, knowledge and support of an independent midwife. Even (or maybe especially??) if you birth in hospital they are invaluable. Hospital was telling me one thing based on their policy....and she would give me the evidence and then protect my decision. :clap:

HTH