Pcos>clomid>pregnancy Signs??

I have PCOS and on my 4th cycle of Clomid [3 cycles on 25mg and finished 50mg for this month] which I am hoping for a miracle to conceive this month. We have been trying for almost 2 years now. I always get the signs of pregnancy 2 weeks before my period is due.

Anyone here have the same situation as me and fall pregnant? I am interested knowing your experience please. 2 weeks time I should get my period. My period cycle is 33-40days apart. I have been constipating and lots of wind in my stomach this month but thinking one of the side effect of Clomid. I don't feel any side effects while I was taking Clomid for 5days [day2-6 of my period] except for hot flushes BUT i am getting them after, is that possible?

Did anyone test here for pregnancy test not waiting for their missed period say 2 weeks before or a week before and positive regardless when you ovulated?
:pray:

Hi Ang3l6a6e,

Sorry to hear your anguish in TTC.

I am in a similar position. I have PCOS, High Insulin and have tried Clomid. Unfortunately it did not work for me :wall:.

But after 2 years and 3 months, we ended up trying IVF and have received some success :dance:. Even though we are early stages, I am trying to stay positive. I have a scan in 1 week and hopefully we are all ok :pray:.

I wish you well in your endeavours and with have my :crossfingers: crossed this month for you.

xxx Sue xxx

Congratulations on your pregnancy and hope you have a healthy and enjoyable one! :)
I am just hoping and praying I'd be successful with this 50mg Clomid for this month. My period should be coming in 2 weeks time and so I'm sure all the signs I am having now is pre-menstrual except I am having heartburn I think - difficulty in breathing, hungry all the time and lots of wind in my stomach.

What were your pregnancy signs? Isn't it it takes a long time and stressful with IVF? thats what ive heard. Sometimes i think why not go for IVF so we can have a baby already and not waste time waiting to conceive, right. HOw much did you pay for IVF? My doctor said after 3 cycle of clomid with no success, she's going to give me metamorfin :cry: it sounds scary..what is anyway and how does it work?

Hi again,

Thank you for your well wishes.

Unfortunately similar symptoms are felt for both PMS and Pregnancy (which is difficult sometimes). With IVF it is a little emotional, but you just need to know the facts about success rates. Basically I went through a couple weeks of injections and then had follicles removed. About 4 days later I had an embreyo put back in and I had complete bed rest for about 4 days to give it every chance (Zita West Book recommends this).

Where I went, you have to pay upfront for IVF. So it cost $3,508.00 and because I had Private Health Insurance, I didnt have to pay any surgery fees. Medicare gave us $2,000.00 back (due to being over the threshold - make sure you are in this!!!). So the whole proceedure cost about $1,500.00. I was very fortunate in every aspect of IVF (eg having follicles to retrieve, fertilization rate etc etc).

Metformin is a diabetic drug (I have been on this also) is for PCOS people who have high insulin levels (trying to reduce it). I am still currently on this during IVF etc. Some people find it difficult to take (as you can get nausea from it), but it is a gradual process of taking 1 tablet each day for a week, then 2 tables for a week etc etc.

Hope this helps and feel free to ask anymore questions.

Good luck for this cycle

xxx Sue xxx

yeah i heard IVF is pretty expensive but if the exchange is a good result, money doesn't matter right plus especially if you have private health insurance. ive been thinking about getting one but calculating and thinking maybe it's not worth it but instead just to save up the money i would pay every month for the insurance. how much is your health insurance? it takes 12month waiting period for pregnancy cover so maybe it's too late for me as we have been trying. I am just relying with medicare..that threeshold thingy.. especially seeing my specialist cost me a lot, we have received refunds already. they say via IVF, there's a possibility of havin twins? ;)

sorry i ask too much questions :redface: my side effect with clomid takes place after i take them which is weird, isnt is suppose to be while taking the clomid. i wonder if i can dose up my 50mg of clomid next month if this month isn't successful without the doctor knowledge. Have you done it before?

Hi

Ask all the questions you need. I can only give you advice on what has happened in my situation.

With Health Insurance - yes it is bloody expensive. We currently pay $270.00 per month (it has just gone up again). But at this stage we are keeping it until and maybe drop back a little later.

With IVF - at Repromed in Adelaide - because their success rate is really good, if you are 38 and under (I am not sure how old you are), they will only put in one embreyo per cycle, until I think if you have gone 3 times with no success they might do 2.

I really don't suggest you take Clomid without Dr's advice. What I have heard is that if you have done 3 cycles with Clomid it is a small percentage you will conceive after that.

I did 4 cycles with Clomid, but they only allowed me to do the 4th was because I was getting ready to go into IVF and my cycle was a little more regulated and that they could guess when I would be starting.

Can I ask a question - are you see a normal GP or are you seeing a specialist in fertility???

xxx Sue xxx

by the way i am turning 26 yrs old this july, been trying for almost 2 years with no success so thought of seeing my GP first had all the test on why i couldnt conceive in at least few months. i was on birth control pill for i think 3 years and i was told either i conceive straight away after i stopped the pill or max one year. I have been seeing my specialist and did few test such as hycosy because they found mild PCOS from my ultrasound and making sure there's nothing wrong with my fallopian tubes nor my uterus which thank God it was good THEn i was prescribed CLomid. My specialist started me with the lowest dosage of 25mg for 3cycles with no success [she's being careful not to start with normal 50mg as I have PCOS -might hurt so much] then 4th cycle i took 50mg this month for another 2cycles.

woah $270 per month of health insurance is too much! that can help with my mortgage already. how's your pregnancy going by the way? i hope everything is okay. as for me im just waiting for my "week" time of period to come [2nd week of april] to know any result will be, at the moment i have flu and have like a gum infection?! what im worried is i can't take any medication until last night where I had fever or high temp so I took that lemsip paracetamol and vitamin c so i feel better today, i just didnt care otherwise i cant go to work but i guess paracetamol or panadol is safe to take right? im avoiding it as much as possible though.

hi, i've tried clomid in the past, worked on one occasion (on third cycle) now have almost 11yo, i have tried since up to five cycles a few times with nothing. I have PCOS as well, i've been on metformin (diaformin) for over twelve months now and lost about 20kg. When starting on metformin one side effect is diarohhea or cramping, my gyno didn't tell me about this but dietician did. If you start slowly and build up the dosage you should be ok. i started with half a table once a day for a week or so, then added another half every few weeks until i reached two a day. my gyno has just added another table per day (so now on 3). Gyno is now putting me on tamoxifen but i don't know anything about that one.

Hi Ang3l6a6e and welcome Mollycat,

I was on Metformin (Diabex) first and then I tried Clomid with it. As well it hasn't helped.

I think it is really hard when you have PCOS (mine is also very slight, they are not sure if I have it or not) or unexplained fertility. Ang3l6a6e have you had a "tracking cycle" where they watch your whole cycle and check bloods etc and tell you when you are ovulating???? Though it didnt get me pregnant, I must admit it did relieve me somewhat to think that everything works OK and its just a matter of time.

Hope you both have a great day

xxx Sue xxx

Sue, how long did you take the metaformin with the clomid before you got pregnant? yeah i think it's really hard with PCOS to conceive straight away or within maybe 3 months for normal people especially if there's nothing wrong with the couple except that PCOS which cause the ovulation to be irregular too but i heard many people or read from the forum that they were successful in 1-2 cycle of clomid and maybe 3% of conceiving naturally with PCOS.

For what I have read in the forums, doctors monitor their patient when they're on clomid regularly but as for me my specialist didn't do any monitoring while im on clomid, not even when she prescribe me on 50mg from 25mg of clomid for 3cycle. She's very confident though that she knows what shes doing coz she have lots of successful clomid patients and knows I am ovulating as it's Clomid's job to do it. I confirmed that I am ovulating because 2 months ago when my period came late [on the 45th day of my period cycle] which for the first time of 45day cycle, I took a blood test on my 41day and there I found out that I ovulated BUT negative for pregnancy! :( what i dont understand, i ovulated it was pretty good BUT no pregnancy? so i asked my specialist that question plus i asked is there such thing as weak eggs..something like that..where i didnt conceive that time. she said there's no such thing as weak eggs or anything like that.

i noticed im putting a lot of weight with taking clomid too and eat a lot.

Sue did you ever got sick which you think you are pregnant [while you were on the clomid and waiting for pregnancy]? Now, around my gums on my right and left mollars are all sore, cant even chew!

did you guys ever experience side effects of clomid 2-3 weeks before you get your period or 2 weeks after you take clomid?? coz as far as i know you experience the side effects of clomid WHILE taking them right..mine's after or maybe just part of PMS?? weird..

Hi Ang3l6a6e,

I never actually got pregnant on clomid and metformin. Though I am still on metformin until the 12 week mark of my pregnancy.

With my miscarriages, I wasnt on clomid or metformin either. I just got pregnant by myself.

With my first round of Clomid (I was only on 25mg), the fertility clinic I was going to made me do a tracking cycle with it. Which was really good because when I was taking clomid, I ovulated early than I normally would. The other 3 rounds of clomid they didnt monitor me.

With clomid I also put on a lot of weight (about a kilo a month) and now with IVF the weight also continued. Though I eat really health and do the low GI stuff (which is good for people with PCOS). I think taking any medication in conjunction with fertility, makes you put on weight!!!

As Mollycat mentioned, Metformin can help you lose weight - but it didnt help me. It only helps certain people and I wish I was one of them!!!!

I normally get pregnant symptoms before my period was due even before I was pregnant. I think when you are looking for any signs of pregnancy you can interpret them as being pregnant.

I think the only true indication is missing your period and having a positive pregnant test.

I wish you all the best this month

xxx Sue xxx

I think everybody is different then with our signs & side effects but I wish I am one of those women who have good side effect such as losing weight instead of putting on weight with fertility drug. I thought metformin and clomid is unsafe with the baby? I am not sure how metformin works anyway.

yeah i think i better stick with positive test results, not even missed period coz mine could be anythin. I am sick of relying on any signs of pregnancy as they are normal for me for my PMS which I hate by the way.

Not sure how I can contact you but since I have been in contact with you, I prefer to ask advice from you and plus whoever can read this message too. At the moment, you are the only one I know.

I took twice pregnancy test yesterday result positive and one this morning, still positive!! but im worried and wondering if the sticks are very accurate to have all positive results. i went to see a GP this morning and she reckons I don't need to do blood test to prove it coz i asked her few times if she's sure not to take a blood test and she is confident and that positive test results with urine is good enough. She said I am 6 weeks pregnant counting from my period I had last month and will have to do dating ultrasound on the 8th week so that's in 2 weeks time. I have to see my OB-GYN on Thursday [17th] and don't know what she will do. Not sure if I should see GP for the rest of my pregnancy or the specialist who will deliver the baby as well and which will cost a lot of money as the GP reckon.

Did you have a blood test to prove for pregnancy?

Thanks.

Congratulations!!! :hooray:

Hi Ang3l6a6e,

Congratulations :dance:. You would be pregnant. Yippee.

Anyway with Dr's, I never had a blood test with them, they did do another urine test in the surgery to confirm, but never a blood test.

When I was at repromed, because of the medication I was taking (IVF), they always give you a blood test to confirm.

I think the next few weeks will be the scary one for you. When they do the scan at 8 weeks, they will be checking for a heartbeat. If they find one, bascially your % rate increases that everything should be OK.

Because I have private health, I am seeing the Ob the whole time. Though friends of mine have done joint share care with their local GP and the public hospital.

I wish you all the best and keep me in touch how you are going.

It is so exciting and again - congratulations

xxx Sue xxx

Thanks Sue & Celsie!

I am just going crazy thinking could this be it?! or maybe because I can't still believe it, or probably because I didn't have blood test to confirm it?

But as you said Sue, you never had a blood test which went all well. :)

I really hope this is it and to deliver a healthy and normal baby. :pray:

I am now in dilemma if I should see my GP or my OB throughout my pregnancy?! I have an appointment this week with my OB though, it's because I was on Clomid perhaps. Is it too early to check if I conceived twins or one?

Now the first thing you have to do is try and relax (I know this is hard).

Please please dont stress yourself.

Go with your gut feeling on which way you should go, personally whatever it takes to get a good result!!! Do you feel comfortable going through your GP?? or would you prefer to go to the Ob? I kind of think it this way - what ever it takes, money etc etc - who cares when you have that baby in your arms. You will work it out.

About the twins or one, they probably would be able to see the sacks and maybe something in it (depending on their machines) though not sure on heartbeat yet. Some people are able at 6-7 weeks see a heartbeat and sometimes it is too early.

Good luck with your Ob and tell me how you go

xxx Sue xxx

Hi Ang3l6a6e,

I have heard of a lot of people that have done clomid with no success. My Endo wouldn't even consider it.
I now have 2 children, 6 years of trying and 18 months on Metformin.
Hang in there. if you were pregnant constipation is way too early.That doesn't come till your about 4 months, and wind isn't a symptom of being pregnant.
Sore boobs is a pretty good sign, feeling sick and sensitivity to smells is pretty much the start of it.

Hi Ang3l6a6e,
Congratulations! :clap:I am so excited for you! I am just about to start my first cycle on Clomid so it is really inspiring to hear your story. Wishing you a very healthy pregnancy. Keep us posted on your progress.

I also have PSOC and have been taking the pill for 10 years before decided to conceive. Unfortunately my period never resumed but I knew that it may take up to a year so I waited and waited and when I got to 8 months I started to really worry and went to see my doctor who diagnosed me with PSOC. Because I didn?t and still don?t get my monthly bleed I am taking Provera which makes you bleed on Day 10 after which I will be commencing Clomid (from Day 2 of my bleed to Day 6). I also have to get HyCoSy procedure done on Day 6-10 and then hope for the best. I am due to start Climod tomorrow and I am feeling VERY anxious about the outcome. Especially when I see my husband jumping around and rubbing my belly thinking that we will have a baby there soon. I?ve told him that our chances are only 1 in 3 but he won?t settle down so I am feeling the pressure.

I am so glad I have found this forum as the hardest thing I find is not being able to share this with your family and friends. All they do is just hassle about why after 5 years marriage we still don?t have any kids and to be honest I don?t want to be telling them about problems we are having. But what do you say when they keep asking ?When are you having kids??. Every time I hear that question I either walk away or change the topic as I don?t want to break down.:crying: It isn?t easy! I wish they would realise that not everyone gets pregnant by just having sex.

By the way have any of you guys had HyCoSy done? How long does it take and is it painful?

:grouphug:

Sue: Yes I will try not to stress. I am getting blood test results tomorrow. I really can't sleep without this blood test to confirm. I have heard blood test is a way to know how many weeks I really am besides the 8th week ultrasound in 2 weeks time. Thanks for the advice. I probably just see my OB if it will help me better and safer as long as my pregnancy is all good and the baby is normal and healthy, that's all it matters. Is it normal to feel I am getting my period and some like period pains, getting white discharge which I do get this 2-3days before my period? Do you think or have you tried having sex while you're pregnant for few weeks only if you don't mind me asking? Cos im worried if it's safe.

Natty: Good luck on your clomid, hope you'll be successful too like me with 50mg [full tablet]. I really feel blessed and lucky with first round of 50mg but I had 3 rounds of 25mg initially. I did all those tests too before putting me into Clomid making sure there's nothing blocked fallopian tube or not good uterus but thankfully they're all good. I have also heard that taking pills for a long term isn't healthy so I stopped my pills after 3 years I think and had my normal period after that. Yeah don't you hate when people ask "nothing yet..", it just putting you into more pressure right plus you feel bad because you know your husband want a baby already, that's normal. That happened to me but these past few days and before I found out I am positive we didn't think about it that much already especially my husband but I keep praying to God hoping and hoping for our dream will come true so don't lose hope and don't forget to pray.

This is really hard to share with your family and friends that's why I prefer forums as well and luckily there's Sue who has been helping me since I started this forum. She's very helpful. And I can also help you as much as I can but of course I don't have much experience yet as Sue does :)

Regarding the Hycosy - Yes I have done hycosy, one of my test. Hycosy is to check if your tubes are blocked or scarred which you get normally with abortion, and they check pelvic and uterus. I had pelvic ultrasound first as my step 1 actually where they found polycystic cysts. I've done my hycosy [full bladder] right after my period I think day 7-8, and nope not painful, a bit uncomfortable because they sticking something into your vagina :D but it's alright. The doctor who did hycosy test [forgot what its called hehe] was nice and she even said that most of her patients do hycosy fall pregnant after a month because it cleans the fallopian tubes but i wasnt one of them up to now. who knows you might be one of them so dont lose hope ok :) i was so relieve when she said that. If you need to ask anything, just ask away.

Polygirl: Clomid is proven a lot of people have a success on this including me, maybe depends on your situation too. For me, first time I had the constipation this month and lots of gas/wind which I thought it must be just the clomid effect PLUS i had a fever/flu this month too where I suspected something wrong but at the same time, it's getting into winter so it's normal for me to get sick but never have fever. But besides all these, main thing is I just keep on praying and wishing and hoping for a miracle. I have sore boobs now. I always get this 2 weeks before my period comes which I had this already and now sore again with some kinda sharp pains like a period pain on and off.

Yeh l know the feeling, been there.
My best revenge after hearing that very question was " yes actually we have been trying for 6 years, the doctor's have told us we can't have them, and thanks for reminding me once again".
It works like a treat, they shut up sooooo fast, and you don't have to worry about that damn question from them again. If their gonna make you feel like ****, make them feel like **** too.
Then you can walk away and have a good cry if you need to. Just make sure you slam the door in their face first.
I never got treated beter in my life after that, and you don't have to worry about passing it on to other family members and friends, cause the old grape vine starts working over time.
It also becomes such a relief to just get it out there, and you might actually find you get heaps of support you didn't expect, that help lift the burdon also.

cheers,
polygirl.

Dear Ang and Polygirl,
Thank you both for your feedback! It really does help knowing that you are not alone out there. I?ve been trying to relax and not think about what?s ahead of me but I find it extremely difficult especially when almost every day another person you know makes an announcement of their pregnancy or you get yet another invitation to a christening or another photo of your friend?s baby or your mother in law makes a cheeky comment to you when someone pregnant walks by ? there is NO escape. Every day you have to put on a happy face and pretend that everything is wonderful and you are not in a rush to have babies even though it is ALL you think about.
Anyway I just have to keep on praying and hope that Clomid will be good to me otherwise I will be slamming doors in people's faces.

yeah thats what i hate too when they keep askin bout having a baby, its like cant they think what if theres something wrong with the couple and it just frustrate them more when they keep on asking but here we were kept sayin probably not a time for us yet..blah blah blah..but ur right they could just shut up when u tell the truth to them and they're the one who will feel bad. i think i just told them, i have irregular period thats y its not easy for me.

every baby shower and christening invitation i receive, i always make an excuse not to go :( especially with my husband, we'll just feel sad. i dont mind if by myself i can take it but seeing my husband with around them makes me feel sad knowing he wanted a baby. dont worry ul get there. just have a trust on clomid and relax and avoid stress, most especially keep praying. :pray:

Hi guys,

I understand how you all feel.

I remember when I lost one of my little angels and a couple of days later my SIL gave birth to her little boy Fletcher. Of course we had to go to the hospital and while we were there, my husband's best friend turned up with his little boy (who was born a couple of months before) and both his brother and best friend where standing there with their babies feeling so proud and I looked at my husband and nearly cried for him.

Also my best friend had her baby on the same day I was due.

Though there is hope for all of us, especially with all the technology they have.

Ang3l6a6e I have had heaps of white discharge since I have been pregnant, so much so, that I think AF has arrived or I am bleeding and go to the toilet to check!!! I also have had constipation and have had to increase my fruit and veggies and drink heaps and heaps of water to overcome this. I havent had any morning sickness, but definately on and off sore bb's.

My husband and I have decided not to have sex until after 12 weeks, because I have had several miscarriages, we have decided to play it safe.

Natty I also have PCOS, but I still have regular periods, so I don't know the consequences of not having periods. Though I have had my fallopian tubes cleaned out and like Ang3l6a6e said, it also didnt work for me. I have been on clomid (25mg) but also didnt work for me (though I have heard of lots and lots of success stories). So I went down the IVF cycle and I have been very fortunate to have success on our first go. They have diagnosed me as unexplained fertility, because there is actually no reason why my DH and I can't conceive naturally - though it just doesnt happen!!!! :wall:

Good luck to you all on your endeavours to have a child.

I am here if you want to ask any questions.

xxx Sue xxx

constipation too early???? i had it from about 4 weeks!!!!

anyone here had a "severe" or bad lower back pain and front like period pain that lasted for almost 2minutes? worried and wondering if this is normal as i had it 2am this morning lasted about 2 minutes i guess..thought i would bring myself to the hospital! thank God it went away.:pray: i just hope it's normal and part of the pregnancy. is this really normal??

went to see my OB yesterday and gave me fees of her delivering for my baby which will cost in total approx $5k-$7k with 80% rebate from medicare of around i think $1500 threeshold. i was thinking public hospital coz its free? or might as well to stick with my OB throughout the pregnancy huh.

what are the symptoms if there's a problem with pregnancy or if there's complications??

Hello Ang3l6a6e,

Sorry I didnt respond until now, but how are you going??? is all OK????


xxx Sue xxx

I got pregnant after 2 months on clomid( I have PCOS) first month on 25mg I ovulated and 50mg second month got a BFP.. i was pregnant wtih twins and lost one.. I am blessed to have one in there though.

I have a son 15 months.


You will get there!

Hi didispunk,
Thanks for your message! Great to hear that you were able to conceive! Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy! :goodluck2:
I just finished taking Clomid and had HyCoSy procedure on Thursday which by the way was the most painful thing I ever had to go through, particularly the bit when they inflate a small balloon like thing inside of you. I don?t even want to try and imagine what it feels like to give birth. Ouch! I was holding my hubbys hand and I think I almost broke it... Anyway, supposed to be ovulating now so fingers are crossed! Really really nervous but trying to stay positive.
Ange, how are you? Is everything ok? Haven?t heard from you for a while so getting a bit worried.
Hugs to all.

im ok thanks for asking..im 8 weeks pregnant and been feeling sick lately..u noe that morning sickness thing. i even have to go home early from work. i feel better these past 2 days though. im hoping for the best for all of us. :)

Hi everyone I'm new to this site, but have been reading everyone's posts with interest. I am expecting baby no.4 in December and wanted to give some hope to those who suffer PCOS. I concieved my first daughter very easily, but unfortunately when it came time for baby no.2 it turned out to be a bit harder. I went through a long 15 months of trying (I was only 21/22 at the time) before I finally went to a specialist. I had unexplained fertility problems and possibly PCOS (which my sister has, so I think it was a mild case of this) and was put on Clomid 50mg. I fell pregnant the first go and ever since then have not had any trouble concieving naturally. In fact I fell pregnant with no.3 when my second daughter was only 6 months old! I then got an implant - implanon after my third daughter was born and within 2 months of having it removed found out I was pregnant with baby no.4. So it just goes to show, I didn't think I was going to be blessed with 2 children let alone 4...you just never know!

Hi Ang,
I am so happy for you! Hang in there, it?s all for a good cause.
Unfortunately I just found out that I didn?t ovulate this time, so feeling very sad but fingers crossed for the next cycle. :pray:
x

hey angel,

just checkin in to see how ur going?... ur not too far off the magical 12 weeks. Are u going in for a scan?

Hey im 18 years olds and only just registered to this site. I got giagnosed with pcos about 6 or 7 months ago when i came of the pill to start a family with my partner. I had a regular period straight away but they soon stopped after a couple of months.
I went to see my gp and he said it was normal and things could take up to a year to get back to normal, so i waited and still no period. When i strated to get worried that something was wrong i went back to see my gp and hye told my they needed to carry a few blood test. When my results came back they were all normal, i then had a set of testosterone test and they came back high. He then booked me in to have a scan at my local hospital and that day they reviled that i had Polycystic ovary syndrome. When i left the hospital i didnt know what it ment or what the condition consitsed of and i felt alone and confused. On a later date a returned back to my gp he explaied what the condition was and told me i could never have children, i was 18 and felt like my whole world was ripped apart in the space of 5mins. I was refrered to a gyno at a different hospital who was very helpfull and explained things to my much clearer. On my 1st appointment i was put on 500mg of metformin and i had to increase the dose through 3months. Within the 1st month i had my period and the following months after. I then went back to meet my gyno and he was happy with how thing were going and intoduced me to 50ml of clomid. I have to still carry on with taking 3 metformin tablets aday and If things go well then i am due to start my 1st lot on the 17th of this month. I have to take 5 pills on the 2nd day of my period for the next 3months.
Has any one else on here been giagnosed with pcos around the same age as me and was able to concieve? None of my friends understand what im going through and its so hard for me to be happy for my friends when tell me they have fallen pregnent becuase i wish it was me.