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A few foods Im not sure about. Can we eat:
Yoghurt?
Sour cream?
Cottage cheese?
Cream cheese?
Mayoniase from the supermarket? Do they all have whole eggs in them?
Pavlova?
Ham on a pizza or toasted sandwich?
Burger with lettuce/ salad on it from Maccas or red rooster?
thanks to anyone who knows!
Do not quote me on this but:
Yoghurt - yes (great source of calcium and good for heartburn and thrush!!!)
Cream Cheese - yes, I read somewhere the yes and no cheeses and cream was a yes. I wanted to make a cheesecake so wanted to make sure I would be ok about ricotta, cream cheese and marscapone so I hope it was ok LOL
Cottage Cheese - I may seem a litle ignorant but is it in water?? If it is then its a no
Sour Cream - good question
Pavlova - I argued about this with my chef friend - she says yes because it is cooked egg, I said no coz the cooked part is only on the outside so it will be interesting to see what others say.
Ham on Pizza is cooked as long as it is cooked very well go for it.
Not to sure about the rest so Ill let someone else answer for you. :D
People have differing opinions on some of these so this is my take!
Yoghurt? It's fine!
Sour cream? Pasteurised so it's fine.
Cottage cheese? I never eat it but I'm pretty sure it is pasteurised too
Cream cheese? Fine!
Mayoniase from the supermarket? Do they all have whole eggs in them? If you get whole egg mayo then no, but if it is just your basic Kraft mayo then yes, because it is heat treated... I eat it, others avoid it if they haven't just opened the jar and eaten within 12hours. I think as long as its not the good stuff ;) then its fine to have a little on your sandwich etc
Pavlova? MMmmmmm not sure about this one but if it has any raw egg then no, I thought it was pretty well cooked?
Ham on a pizza or toasted sandwich? Steaming hot is fine.
Burger with lettuce/ salad on it from Maccas or red rooster? Mmmm I don't get burgers with lettuce so Im not sure but there could be a slight risk as the lettuc probably sits there for a while before they make it... maybe ask for no lettuce??
Good luck!
Cottage cheese is fine.
Thanks everyone....what about UHT milk? Is that pasturised?
UHT = ultra heat treated, so maximum pasteurisation there!
For a full list of can and can'ts see the Food Standards Australia website here.
All of the above YES
UHT Milk -YES
The things you need to look at with dairy is: is it pasturised? So no SOFT chesses, no French chesses, goat, brie, etc.
The whole eggmayo will be labelled as such, the normal (Praise, Kraft, ec) Mayo is not egg mayonaise.
Make sure your salad is washed, and try not to eat fresh ham, salami, etc, ESPECIALLY salamis, because of the way they are nade and what they are made from. Its pretty gross actually! lol And they are huge risk of infection.
HTH:)
x:)
yep everyone is right. With the burgers with lettuce and stuff. Ive been eating them (more of a craving really) from macca's. Nothing wrong with me. But i do check all my fast food before i eat it to make sure its cooked propley and stuff :)
Holy - yeah I got wicked cravings for maccas chicken burgers for while lol
If you go fast food, esp chicken, you can tell them you are pg and get them to make it fresh, and make sure its cooked properly, they are really nice about it too :)
It's so hard to know what is right or not... all these bl**dy restrictions!!!!!
I eat all of the above! Well, I do now...!
At first I was pedantic about no lettuce on burgers or anything like that... but I always eat that kind of thing so I figured if I was going to get listeria (sp?) I'd have gotten well before now. Just use common sense, cold burgers when they should be hot is really not healthy for anyone... That's the way I think about it. Plus my body (and supernose!) usually tells me if something isn't right.
BTW... I'm sure I'll send some people into a panic but I craved Subway for AGES and I have been eating it from about 14 weeks on ... Bubble is fine and strong in case anyone is wondering!!!
lol i have also been eating subway since about 4 weeks pregnant and my bub is very healthy. But as Alisha said, u pretty much know by the mummy nose and senses if something isnt right.
Most things are fine as long as from a reliable source.
I must say thought i asked in red rooster fro me to make me a fresh rooster roll and they refused and said no they were all made yesterday morning and we wont make any more till tomorrow.
Maccas is great at adding and subtracting what you do and dont want!!!
I hope you told RR where to shove it then!! lol
d!cks.
I did i was so annoyed as i really felt like one of those rolls.
Dont know if i will ever eat RR aagin!
I ate Maccas and ham and pavlova because they were all cooked (eg. I didn't have cold ham)
:)
OHH i would love a pav!!! ITs my fav but dont see it many places lately!!!
Maccas another fav of mine.
Ham i used to love but at 14 weeks i stopped wanting to eat it and have onloy managed to eat it for 1st time on thurs so hope that i can eat more now!!!
MMhh i am hungry now dinner dinner what to have
Thanks guys!!!
What about if say I did get a burger like a chicken burger or a fillet o fish (yum) what about the sauce it has on it? Would that be a creamy whole egg mayo? Or shouldnt I worry about little things like that! I want a fillet o fish! WITH the sauce! lol.
I have eaten maccas in all my pgs and everything was fine. Maccas now in most places cook to order so even better!
Well if you pregnant before the 90's you could eat whatever you want!
I doubt a fast food outlet would be using good quality whole egg mayo. Have a look at their website, there should be ingredient listings for all their products.:
Thanks Astrid, I went to the wesite and DAMN the sauce on the fillet o fish has egg yolks in it!:wall:
Oh i am addicted to Pav at the moment , every trip to the supermarket ends with a pav. Woolworths has them in a little tub so they are like enough for 2 people, hmmmmmmmm me and bub that counts for 2 people right.
Most of what you've listed is fine except for mayo and salad not prepared within your own home.
I've seen 5 doctors during this pregnancy and they've all said no mayo due to the raw egg content - store bought or home made. Some of them also mentioned creamy dressings in general so that rules out all "white" sauces or dressings the take away places serve on their burgers. They also all said no salad unless you know it's been thoroughly washed - and how can you know that?
The thing that I found shocking about listeria when I got educated about it from a leaflet from the midwife clinic at my hossy is that it can live in your body for up to 70 days and you probably wont even know you have it.
The symptoms include flu like symptoms and sometimes urinary tract infection symptoms, very rarely the usual runs & vomiting that you get if you have "bad" food. That's why you don't tend to know if you have it.
If it crosses the placenta it can cause m/c, ruptured membranes, pre term labour and stillbirth. It is very rare in Australia but 70 or so cases are reported each year so it is still a real risk.
Apparently they only discovered that it could be passed on to us through the food chain in the 80's which explains why all our mothers and grandmothers think we are being ridiculous when we avoid the "risky" foods - they simply didn't know about it back then.
Listeria can actually lead to speticemia (blood poisoning) meningitis (brain infection) which can cause misscarriage or still birth. Other people who are at risk are newborns, cancer patients, AIDS patients, elderly and any one who is immuno suppressed.
I do think it is up to each of us to way up those risks of what we eat, when I asked some trusted medical friends what the actual risk was, I decided not to bother avoiding foods unless my gut was telling me to. The stress of what to eat or not to eat was not good for me. My gut has been quite good at warning me so far, managed to avoid a bad case of food poisoning due to it, amazing what your body can detect from meters away if you listen to it.
Astrid I aggree as a midwife i educate woman about listeria and foods to watch out for, but to be honest I still have most of the foods on the list if I want but i am selective at where i will buy it from.
Some peopke go way over the top and become psycoticly obbsessed with what they will and wont eat.
You wouldnt eat something normally if it smelt off or tasted funny so why should pregnancy be any different!
I really wish the risks were outlined with data, like other things we are warned about, so we can make informed decisions. Just a blanket "Don't eat", to me, is really not helpful. I suppose I am a numbers person and like to see "there is a 1 in 100 risk of....".
I personally don't care how low the risk is - and it does appear to be quite low if only 70 people get it here each year. With having already suffered 3 unexplained losses I'm not taking any unnecessary risks whatsover. I can live without all the "risky" food for 9 months. I'd hate to turn out to be one of those 70 odd people who do get it.
Food risks... another one of those personal choice things... a lot like having an amnio or CVS for example. There's a risk with that but so many choose to have it anyway.
I do think there's a lot of scaremongering pregnant woman... The final straw for me was the report that said pregnant woman shouldn't be near the city and if they live near busy roads that they should shut their houses up because otherwise xyz will happen. Basically we can't even breathe!!!!! Apparently vitamin C causes cancer now, what a riot! A well manipulated study can show anything, so I generally ignore and just listen to my body.