HCG level driving me crazy!!!

Here is a HCG level chart, thanks to Briggsy's Girl!

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Weeks of pregnancy (mIU/ml or IU/L)
Week 3 HCG = 0 to 5
Week 4 HCG = 5 to 426
Week 5 HCG = 18 to 7340
Week 6 HCG = 1,080 to 56,500
Weeks 7 to 8 HCG = 7,650 to 229,000
Weeks 9 to 12 HCG = 25,700 to 288,000
Weeks 13 to 16 HCG = 13,300 to 254,000
Weeks 17 to 24 HCG = 4,060 to 165,400
Weeks 25 to birth HCG = 3,640 to 117,000
4 to 6 wks after birth HCG = Less than 5

After my results today, I have sat down with a chart and doubled them every 2 days, the average supposed to be 1.5 to 2 days.

By 7-8 weeks, if double every 2 days, they will 435,200!!!

How many ladies doubled evey 48 hours, and do these seem very high to you???!!!

They are currently at 850ish, at 4w 6d, but im almost certain I am only 4w 2d, ( I have a 32 day cycle, not 28) which would make the numbers even higher by 7-8 weeks. Will have to wait for the scan to get exact due date.

So, thoughts anyone??? I know I shouldn't obsess, but hard not to when the doc is suss about the levels too!!!;)

Maybe TWINS!!!

Purple - Hi hun, thought this might ease your mind abit with the HCG levels. The levels wont double every 48hrs all the time, it starts to get longer in time for doulbing.

I found this bit of information at the beginning of my pg to help ease my mind.


For HCG levels <1200 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is 48-72 hours.

For HCG levels 1200 to 6000 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is 72-96 hours.

For HCG levels >6000 mIU/ml, the expected doubling time is >96 hours.

Dont forget everyone is different too with the way their hcg levels rise. Mine this time seemed to take forever to get to a decent level.

Hugs hun.

I was going to say a similar thing to csab..I didn't think that they double every 48 hour period for weeks and weeks, I thought it was at certain stages that they double, but at other times numbers may not rise that quickly. Anyway, csab explained it much better then me!

Definitely not a straight forward thing to predict anyway.

doubling time is avr 48 hrs between 4-6 weeks at 7-8 weeks doubling time slows to about every 72 hours

dont freak if numbers seem high ask for a scan

good luck

Thanks girls!!
*runs off to go over chart again, using new info*
Told you I was obsessed!!!:rolleyes:

Even after being quiet conservative, I'll still reach 435,200 just before 9 weeks, still HEAPS high!!

Looking forward to the scan next thursday, if only to ease my mind everything is ok....:pray:

*goes to check how numbers look if double evey 4 days instead!*

Even if I double every 4 days from here on on, which would be pretty unusual, I'll still be at least double by 10.3 wks!!!:doh::doh:

Off to find something else to sink my teeth into!!!:lol:

Otherwise i'll just go nuts!!:cryinglaugh:

Can you not ask for an earlier scan? At least it'll tell you if it 1 or 2 and it will stop you from wondering. Will you be excited if it is 2? I would love twins!

Honey my hcg levels were 957 at 4 wks and 2 days and then 4697 at 4 weeks and 6 days. My initial hcg result is like urs and then i wanted to have a 2nd hcg test to compare the 1st one with. At no stage did either GP i saw to get the results indicate that there was any probs in fact they said that it indicated the pg was viable. I asked the GP at the 2nd appt whether a higher result meant twins and he said that the numbers are largely due to the size of the placenta which may or may not indicate twins.

Oh thanks babe!! I've already lost one twin years ago, and my b/pressure is REALLY high, so my doc is suss.:rolleyes:

But your all good, hopefully i am too!!!
Thanks again hon!!:hug:

Just to let you know too that there is another hcg guide posted here on BB - it's the 3rd sticky down on the First Trimester General discussion thread - this forum.

I just looked through my pregnancy diary and here are my BETA's for TWINS... i just lost one though the other day.. BUt still pregnant with 1.

9dpo bhcg 9
11dpo bhcg 43
16 dpo bhcg 143
19dpo bhcg 381
24dpo bhcg 1643
30dpo bhcg 3943
32po bhcg 5039
THEn..
60dpo 43,465

My doc was really worried that my numbers were high, i thought they were ok.. but i was concerned about ectopic.. then when I lost one the other day.

Best of luck and i am sure all is going to be great!

Gosh hon, I'm so sorry, I've been there too...:hug:

If my numbers only double every 3 days, and everything stays ok, my numbers will be still higher than yours..:(

To be honest I'm pretty worried about something being wrong besides twins....:rolleyes:

I dont know what, as most times the numbers get lower, but i just feel funny about it...:(

Jodie - maybe they are so high cos its triplets... :p
hehehehehe

:cryinglaugh: Oh god, just imagine!!!:cryinglaugh:

lol triplets, that's just cruel!

Re the HCG doubling, this can vary massively, and my understanding it's quite non-linear. So you can't just plug it into a spreadsheet and "chart" what it will go up to.. as partic after 8 weeks the rate of increase will really vary - but also I've read (does that make it true haha?) it that it can vary a lot before the 7-8 week mark tho too. Plus from what i saw, the studies that predicted those change rates were pretty small, and there's a bit of "disagreement" about it. Plus that's for 85% of women. For 15% of women, their rate of change might be slower or faster at a certain point (this was me s-slower - which freaked me out, but turned out to be fine).

So you might find your levels change in their increase quite drastically depending on when it is. I do agree that if you're only 4 wks 2 days, they're on the high side though.

From my perspective, I ended up having 5 serial HCG's (which nearly did my head in) and NONE of it seemed to really correspond to what it should. So honestly, IMHO take it with a grain of salt... main thing being that it's a great HCG level, and it all sounds pretty good so far! Looking forward to hearing the next instalment in your adventures!

Take care :hug:

P.S. I think my brain must be s-s-s-slower! :lol:

I seriously have too much time to think of this....:cryinglaugh:

Didispunk had 381 at 19dpo, and I have 850 at 18dpo!!! Thats heaps!!:cryinglaugh:

Cant wait to see the doc on Thur, and see if we can get another blood test!!

Jodes you can google HCG charts for singletons and twins and compare the different ranges...
I found one not long ago...

Do you want me to have a look?

Sorry purple.. I didnt mean to worry you.. Just i remember looking online like a mad women trying to see if mine were ok or not or? what was going on.. I was soo stressed about it!!!

Cant wait to hear your great news after seeing doc.. as all will be fine!

Thanks Ash, that would be great, if you get a chance!!!

By most charts I can find, I am double for the average numbers at 18 dpo, and still over 100 higher for the range, in singletons.

I am over averge for the twin numbers as well, but still around the middle, so I guess I have no more idea than before!!!:cryinglaugh:

Off to the doc tommorrow, and I'll ask for another HCG level blood test. I am dying to know how this going!!!;)

I'm totally confused - and this could be a totally stupid question. But did you say yours was taken at 4 weeks 2 days - meaning that timeframe from LMP? Or did you mean 4 weeks 2 days after ovulation? because if it was from LMP, wouldn't that mean you shouldn't be comparing with 18 dpo from didispunk?

Sorry - happy to be called stupid if I'm barking up totally the wrong tree here? I'll just blame preggi brain :D

EDIT: :rofl: I just added up what your days dpo would be... quite right you are... might just shut-up now! Can't wait to hear the next results. Erm... for some reason I think I was thinking there were 4 days in a week! HAHAHA!

No worries hon, you should see my calendar for working this out!!:cryinglaugh::cryinglaugh:
At one point I added a week and thought I was 25dpo, and nearly had a heart attack!!!:cryinglaugh:

I've never known my numbers before, and only do this time due to the doc being concerned. So tbh, I'm enjoying the google searches, but I still feel something funny is going on, and not in the twin sense. Not too sure, but I just feel funny... I am very used to pregnancy, and this is different...

Hi Purplemumma,
I just read on another website a post just like yours and she was worried about a molar pregnancy, a lot of girls came on and reassured her if it was a molar it would be more like 180,000hcg and your nothing like that. This girl went on to have a scan and there was only one bub. Hcg is individual to each woman, some get a really high one and it is only one bub. You would be suprised how many came and posted they also had a very high hcg and there was only one bub. Dont stress, the scan will tell you soon if one or two but it is a possibility like you said that you already have been expecting twins before so perhaps you are again. But just letting you know it can also be just one bub.

Jodie, how many DPO would you have been when you made the post, according to both a 28 & 32 day cycle?

Just wondering how you went on at the Dr's today. I have everything crossed that you get some news to put your mind at rest weather it be one or two bubba's. Twins would be excting- i'd love to have them. I am one and my sis has them. Dh isnt keen on trying for a no3 cos he thinks we'd end up with 2 instead of one :cryinglaugh:

Hi Ash.... Day of the blood test either 19 or 15 roughly... I thought i Oed one day, but 4 days later got HUGE O signs, and as I usually have a long cycle, I assume maybe the 15dpo...

My doc said no to another blood test!!! He said "get off the net, stop stressing, your numbers are great and your ultrasound is only a week away" I had to laugh!! I've never had repeat bloods before, so I'm not surprised.:D

Jodie, check this out huni :)

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...pregnancy.html

Dunno if I'm allowed to post this but here goes..

Singleton

Beta values main chart : multiple


Going by 15 DPO i'd say likely, 19dpo maybe not... but the ranges are so high/low for each so it's hard to tell!

I found a much better one last time i looked but i can't find it again

ETA - i dont know what's up with the links but i cant get them to post properly

Hi Congratulations on your pregnancy,
I hope this helps because I am going through a similar sort of thing at the moment but unlike you I have been a little worried that my levels are too low.
My cycle is irregular also, I am almost certain though of the day i conceived being day 20 of my cycle so when i had my bhcg levels done I would have been 4 wks or 14 dpo - my level was 139.
According to what I have read from your post, i am feeling a little better because that actually looks good. The reason I have been worried was because I too havn't had a scan yet and the Dr keeps quoting I am 4wks 6d and that would be a low level result.
I am having another done today 4w 5d or 19 dpo I will let you know what my results are.
I hate these early days, I have had a m/c before so I am always worried about my bhcg levels.
Good luck :) oh and these results are for a single baby

For 14 dpo those levels do look good!!! From what i can gather, its the doubling time that matters the most, but i'm not having repeat bloods anyway.!! Judging by weeks is hard, which is why I'm going by dpo instead!!:lol:

Cant wait to hear your re****, good luck honey!!!:hug:

I really hope so, I'm probably just worrying for nothing.
I am sure you are the same it's all I can think about at the moment it is starting to consume me!!
I'm off now to have the 2nd test, will let you know how things go :)

Hi Girls,

I was just reading your posts and it was funny as I was just getting a little concern/excited I might have more than one in there too. I have miscarried twice so am having BT's to check levels. I had my first a week ago tomorrow and HDG was 11 then today I had another test and was expected around 100 as it has been about 6 days since.

I had the test this morning and they called me to tell me the results. I was really worried but it was great news. She said they expected 100 but it was 300! She asked me if I was on Clomid and I said it was natural and she sounded surprised. I think I am either 4 weeks 1 day or 4 weeks 5 days. It seems high. I don't really care just excited that I have a healthy baby.

I am not really sure what Clomid does... is it likely to produce multiples?

Congratulations, we are due around the same time - according to my dates I am due the 22/01/09 and that would make me today 4wks 4d so if your EDD is the 25/01/09 then you would probably be 4wks 1d and that result would be on the higher side.
It may be a mutiple but every pregnancy is different, you will just have to wait a few weeks till you can have an ultrasound and see.
Hope all goes well for you and you bub or bubs, keep me posted when you hear anymore news!
Cheers :)

Here is what i can find on HCG levels going by dpo....

Days Past Ovulation (single preg)

10 16 3 245
11 24 2 152
12 36 2 208
13 63 4 575
14 101 3 2088
15 136 3 2088
16 198 5 2744
17 289 5 4591
18 399 7 6234

Sorry, I cant copy it properly!!!
1st column down...dpo
2nd column average HCG
3rd column lowest HCG
4th column highest HCG

Hope that helps ladies. Ill try to copy the multiple one...

10 29 2 57
11 57 2 173
12 78 4 348
13 184 10 486
14 265 23 1157
15 349 16 2010
16 538 16 2883
17 884 21 3193
18 1193 22 8060

Remember these are just numbers, and everyone is different. also the doubling time comes into play, so these are just a bit-of-fun guide...

Well I got my results today and I am so pleased to be telling everyone all is fine in fact excellent in five days they have jumped from 139 to 2300, I really couldn't believe what I was hearing !
I'm now on the higher side of numbers as I am only 4w 4d by my calculations maybe I'm having twins (lol)
Thanks to everyone for your help, advice and support :)