Ok, I know what TYPE of MCN I want, but do they work, and what brand???

I have a GORGEOUSBB lady who is lending me her MCN's to use on Little Girl when she gets here, and for me to just post them back when I'm done, But we'd like to put all the kids (the little ones!) in cloth.

So I think that the AIO, with extra inserts, (so a AI2?) one size nappy, is for us.That way all the nappies will fit all the kids.
I could never afford to change the sizes over, or buy covers as well... :(

So.. I have found Bum Genius, Happy Heiny's, Bum Wear and Cheeky Butts all have a one size nappy, with extra insert, for about $28. As some of them are already AIO, it makes them about 6 thick for night time, without buying even more inserts. :dance:

Are these One size nappies ok, and are these good brands????? I'd like to grab some now for the boys....

(Kane is in nappies full time, and Zavier just has one night nappy, with usually just one wee in it in the morning)

Thanks ladies.... :hug:

Why dont you try and grab one of each? You can test them on Kane and then decide which ones are best for you...

Chances are you will like all of them - so it wont be a waste - and if you dont like one or two, then hey its about the equivalent of 2 packets of huggies which you were just going to chuck out anyway :)

I have bought two types and all I have really been able to do is pour water in them and see how much they absorb, and how quickly. Also tried to see how easily they would pour over the sides - but both seem to handle liquid pretty well!

I am thinking I might grab a couple of itti bitti d'lishes just for when the unit is extra tiny too....

sorry that probably didnt help at all!!

PurpleMama, when i first looked at MCNs and sized nappies in particular, i thought, OMG, every few months, i will have to buy X more of the same thing. This didn't turn out to be the case.

i used mainly prefolds and covers for the nb/small stage.

once my bub hit 7kg, i moved her into nappies that have the SIze 2 option (weight range is from 7 - 16kg). She is 22 months now, and 11kg, so i think she'll easily be in those same nappies until TT-ing.

So my fear about having to buy ALL the sizes, wasn't as bad as i had thought it would be.

THe thing with OSFA nappies, is they are good for MANY bubs but not ALL bubs. At both ends, the tiny newborn, and the bigger toddler, they are not always the answer.

You have to think about the boosters too. A microfibre insert (that comes free with many pocket nappies) may be great for one child, but not enough for another child who wets more. Six layers of microfibre is different to six layers of bamboo.

So getting bamboo trifolds and boosters, to CUSTOMISE each nappy for the child who is wearing it, will really assist you.

Putting a trifold inside a cover is a good nappy combo too (lay in a microfleece liner to keep baby dry).

THe reality is - kids within the same family CAN have different body shapes. I would suggest side snapper products to you as an option, as side snapping nappies are very adjustable. They adjust waist and legs INDEPENDENTLY. The same MCN Side snappers have suited my bub BOTH when she was a chicken legs, and when she changed into a chubby legged baby. So that flexibility is excellent.

Nothing is guaranteed. You COULD find ONE nappy that suits all your kids. But that is a possibility, not an absolute.

WHy not get ONE of each of the type you are interested in, and road test them on your kids? You will learn SO MUCH about whether those products suit your kids or not, just by using them for a few days.

THen whichever product meets your needs the best, get more of those.

The products you mention, all have PUL outers. PUL is not the most breathable fabric for overnight. Once the absorbent material is 100% saturated, the baby wees again, and the wee has nowhere left to absorb, so the PUL can wick (wet thru).

Malden mills AIO's like Kester Kovers AIO or bits for bots AIO, is what i would suggest to you there.

If you want any covers, the size 1 (birht to 7kg) adn size 2 (7 - 16kg) tots bots covers are on special at nurture nappies right now, great price.

Sure, the birth to 7kg stage - bubs grow so fast, it's not the most economical time to buy sized stuff (although it fits so much better), but the 7+kg stage - that is the economical time to buy sized stuff in my opinion. That weight range - 7 to 16kg is very generous.

Getting to understand what various MCN fabrics do, and what fabrics are in the products you are considering buying, will help you to make wise buying choices.

Do you sew or knit?

fairy fabrics have a great fleece soaker pattern (for your night nappy solutions)

on nappycino, on the DIY KNITTING forum, you'll find great links to free online knitting patterns to make shorties, longies (esp for night nappying). THe great thing with these handknitted wool items, is that even when they are a bit too big, they still work as waterproofing nappy options. You have to handwash and lanolise them, wich is easier than it sounds, and they only need washing every month, not every day like other covers.

buying a few metres of bamboo fleece or terry and sewing up simple rectangles e.g 30 x 40cm of bamboo will provide you with lots of trifolds. Just fold them in three. or make long skinny boosters, 60 x 10cm.

I can sew and knit but haven't had time in years!! :lol:
But getting the fleece and terry for inserts would be easy and doable for sure, MIL would even do it for me... ;)

I might grab one of each, find what I like, and make the extra absorbent inserts myself, a compramise I guess!!!

Off to check the other brands you mentioned too....

Jodie - another brand is Green Kids - one size fits all - pocket nappy.

I only mention this because I have a couple - and I use it for DS at nighttime - and during the day - I just adjust the stuffing. Plus, its not as expensive ($23). I'm planning on buying more (cos I love em) so can probably spare one of these for you to road test if you like?

Oohhh, the Green Kids sound good!!!

I also found the Haute's ones as well... $25, breathable PUL, one size, with 2 inserts (microfleece)...

Off to look at Green Kids....;)

No nOT the Hautes. The breathables are, IMO, awful! They make baby feel soooooo unbeelievably wet from all the breathing and wicking. Otherwise they are okay, but they feel wet when they aren't.

Jodie, a good way to go about it is to buy the bare minimal nappies and lots of extra inserts - as the nappy bits themself only take maybe, half an hour to dry... So to do it cheaply you could buy maybe say fifteen of them and then have 2-3 times as many inserts, which are usually less than a third of the price. We have just started doing this and it works a treat.

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No nOT the Hautes. The breathables are, IMO, awful! They make baby feel soooooo unbeelievably wet from all the breathing and wicking. Otherwise they are okay, but they feel wet when they aren't.

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Oh, bummer!!!:doh:

Yeah, I thought i'd buy a lot more (or make!) inserts, and change them frequently, not the whole nappy, and put in two when going out...

Which would be best for this???

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THe reality is - kids within the same family CAN have different body shapes. I would suggest side snapper products to you as an option, as side snapping nappies are very adjustable. They adjust waist and legs INDEPENDENTLY. The same MCN Side snappers have suited my bub BOTH when she was a chicken legs, and when she changed into a chubby legged baby. So that flexibility is excellent.

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Okay, is that the little snaps on the front of the nappy, not just the velcro band around the waist?? I'm such a MCN virgin!!:redface:

The Bum Genius has snaps and the velcro....would I get a better fit for all 3 with this maybe?? And just get lots of GOOD inserts??

Actually Happy Heinys have the snaps too.... :doh:

We use Hautes and I havent really had the problem with the wetness. I think there are two types of Hautes though - "breathable" and "traditional"... so maybe i have the traditional type. I have both snaps and velcro. I personally prefer the velcro as i find it easier to do up, easier to adjust.. unfortunately though Claire is able to undo the velcro now!

We also have Bumwears. They have such cute little patterns on them! I bought one for her maybe a year ago and it never fit that well, but they slightly changed their design since then, and it now has an extra snap to secure it better around the leg. The newer design fits better on Claire. She has really skinny chicken legs.

I find bamboo is good for inserts. Microfibre is als good (and dries quicker than bamboo!) but it seems to leak when it gets squished too much (ie: when it gets sat on during a long car trip).

I think I will need the snaps, as both Za and Kane will probably undo the velcro!!! Green Kids look great, but I'm trying to stay away from ones with covers, as its a pretty big cost with 3!!!

Okay I'm narrowing down my needs....

*AIO or AI2
* lots of good inserts or material
* snaps for width and length of nappy to fit all 3
* good price

So far the ones that fit all are Bum Genius, Bum Wear and Hautes.... (if they dont feel wet!!)

Jodie - Green Kids don't need a cover.:)

:doh: I'll have to go have another look.... I must be mixing them up with another brand... Maybe they dont come with any extra inserts???

I seriously have a headache from the damn computer today, I'm sick of MCN!!! :lol:



Yep, they come with no inserts... another $10 for one...But if I make my own, (or mil does!) it is the cheapest nappy!!! They'd be good for Little Girl with the velcro...

I justt wanted to mention - the one nappy DS has taken off - was one with snaps. Hasn't pulled off the velcro ones - as yet.

We usually put a pair of pants on him anyway

Righty O, I'm gonna grab a Bum Genius, a Haute and a Green Kids, and use them on my boys. * I think*

I'll get MIL to make some more inserts for me, and I'll see what I like for the boys. Little Girl's will have to wait, but hopefully whatever I stock up on for the boys will be good for her too... :pray:
Ill get my first ones in boys and unisex colours and get pink with the ones that are good on her later...

What should we make the inserts out of, and can I get that at Spotlight???

Jodie - you may want to take a look at the trial pack from green kids - that will give you a day and night nappy - and templates for your own inserts - if you know what i mean?

I LOVE BumGenius!

Green Kids are okay, I find the insert takes ages to dry but I like the opening for the insert the best, no poo can get in like BG. Noah leaks with the GK at night but not BG.

I have a Hautes and I HATE it, after a few washes it got really pilly and old looking, I could probably post you mine if you want it, it is too breathable so there is a wetness factor after an hour or 2. A waste of money IMO, I don't even use it when I run out of my BG and GK, I just put him in sposies until the rest are dry.

With 2 bad responses from the Hautes, I might give them a miss!!!

I might get a trial pack from Bum Genius and Green kids, to give them a fair go...The template for the inserts would be great too!!!:dance:

Im a fan of Haute......i use and stock the Breathables...ive never had a problem with this wet feeling?

Bumgenius are a good brand....very popular

Green kids are good...but IMO dont fit the OSFM category all that good. They dont fit DD2 and she is only 10kg....

Happy Heinys i love!

Bubblebubs i love

Swaddlebees are another OK kind too!

I'm another GK fan. I have them for both my DDs and love them. I've tried hautes, Bum Genius, monkey doodelz, pea pods and happy heinys and the GKs won no contest.

I agree that not all nappies fit all kids - I know Monkey Doodelz have a great rap from other mums on BB but just didn't suit DD#1. I've found the GK to be great for both girls though - started using them on DD#1 when she was about 7 months and have used them on DD#2 since she was about 4 weeks old, weighing about 3.6kgs. DD#1 is still using them too, and she now weighs about 10kgs.

I don't use MCNs overnight though - I've tried the GKs with boosters and also I have a couple of Wild Childs but I found they all leaked. So, DDs are in huggies overnight, which get them through uninterrupted until morning.

I made an order!!!!

1 Haute Pocket One Size Pocket (includes 1 Microfibre inserts)
1 Green Kids One Size Pocket- Anytimes (excludes insert)
1 Kangas One Size Pouch Pocket (excludes insert)
1 Happy Heiny One Size Pocket (includes 2 microfibre inserts)

All for $77.50, posted!!!!!

Now I'll just get a Bum Genius, and I can try them all!!!!

I'm sooo excited!!!! Cant wait to stick a cloth on Kanes little tushie!!!!:p


Will just have to get MIL some material to make a pile of inserts for me...

Yay! How exciting.

I like the insert in the hautes. You get two - a small one and a big one and they snap together.

I've got a bum genius. Its ok, but I found the tabs started looking a bit ratty after only a few uses. The inside bit (that goes against the bum) isnt fleece. Its something else (dont know what exactly..) and I find that it doesnt seem for come out quite as clean as the other nappies... like the poo stains it worse or something.

I guess thats not a big deal though for some people - I just like it to look clean (why do they make them WHITE!!??)

The Nappy Hunt is on for the month of September
If you go to the Diaper Decisions website, and join the AUSTRALIAN nappy hunt, even if you don't participate (it's a treasure hunt where you visit many MCN websites searching for icons) you STILL get sent (just for signing up) a Nappy Hunt Discount Code.

Many MCN shops sponsoring the hunt, give you great discounts, for using that code AT CHECKOUT.

what you have bought so far
1 Haute Pocket One Size Pocket (includes 1 Microfibre inserts)
so you would have chosen either APLIX or FRONT SNAPPING CLOSURE

1 Green Kids One Size Pocket- Anytimes (excludes insert)
that only comes as APLIX CLOSURE, good to get the bamboo insert and booster

1 Kangas One Size Pouch Pocket (excludes insert)
i think that one is a front snapper closure too

1 Happy Heiny One Size Pocket (includes 2 microfibre inserts)
i suspect this has a microfleece inner

the fabric inner of the Greenkids and the Bum Genius, is SUEDECLOTH, a stay dry fabric.
the other stay dry fabric that many pockets and AIO's have as their inner, is called MICROFLEECE.

for your older two, you may need bamboo inserts, to make the nappies last a decent time.

THE SNAPS.

it's WHERE the snaps are:

ON THE FRONT, THE TUMMY
those snaps are to make a nappy into a OSFA
set on the smallest setting - for the newborn
set on the largest setting - for the toddler
it alters the LENGTH or RISE of the nappy

when i mentioned FRONT and SIDE snapping nappies to you, that refers to snaps DOING UP the nappy each time you put it on your child.
These snaps are at the waist line, going across the nappy. (for front snappers)
Whereas the rise adjusting snaps (only on OSFA nappies) are going vertical down the nappy.

it's much easier when you have two lined up together, to compare

if i was allowed to post URLS, i could post links to photos of what i am talking about - you know, a picture tells 1,000 words!

Babysoftlandings also has a mixed package of pockets (special deal) where you buy a selection of pockets. Actually Darlingsdownunder might have a similar thing too.

Nurture Nappies has a MIXED PACKAGE where you can try out all the styles (fitted and cover, pocket, aio), Berry Baby, DarlingsDownunder (Poppit's Pick), and Baby Blossom do mixed packages too. Great way to decide what you like. You "roadtest" them on your bubs, then at least you know what you like, adn what suits them.

Wonderful that your mum can sew inserts for you. Bamboo is expensive to sew with, so practise and make ALL your preparation BEFORE you cut into it!!

Wash it twice as hot as your machine goes/
Hot dry it twice too
this stuff does shrink, so don't skip the washing before you sew

That sounds great. Only thing I would say though is that one of the great things about the GKs is their inserts - you may be a bit disappointed with its performance if you don't use a GKs insert.

Jodie, I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE my GK's. I use funtimes and anytimes during the day and the minky ones at night (just 'cos they're so nice and soft and snuggly). They have fit DS since he was 6 months and he's now nearly two, but yes I agree, any "One Size" nappy is not going to fit at either end of the small-large scale.

As for the GK's inserts, I only use bamboo and yes, they take forever to dry but the absorbency is so reliable (unbeatable). I always buy seconds bamboo inserts, just email GK's and ask about them, I think they are about 30% cheaper and I can very rarely tell why they are seconds (they always look fine to me). I have more inserts than nappies so I can leave them on the clothes horse overnight to do a bit more drying. I use one bamboo insert per nappy for days and two bamboo inserts at night.

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Many MCN shops sponsoring the hunt, give you great discounts, for using that code AT CHECKOUT.

Babysoftlandings also has a mixed package of pockets (special deal) where you buy a selection of pockets. Actually Darlingsdownunder might have a similar thing too.

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Yep, thats how it was cheap!!! I got the package from Darlingsdown under, but might check for others as well...

Thanks for all that info!!!! :hug:

It might be easier to just get some bamboo inserts instead of getting Mil to do it!!! ;)

I'm glad so many of you like the Gk, I cant wait to get them!!! :dance:

PM, I hope you dont mind, going through a bit of the same thing as you and just wanted to ask a very reated q instead of starting a whole other thread -

Guys, need your advice!

So far I have 12 BumGenius'

5 Cushie tushies

I was going to get some more bum g's (they just look so good) but ..... I can only get pink! Wanted different colours in case the next was a boy...

So, I was thinking of getting

2 x itti bitti d'lish
2 x green kids
2 x (damn now I have forgotten the name!!) - what woudl you advise to add to this arsenol?

Cat - once you see the ittis - I don't think you will be able to stop at 2.. pmsl!!!!!

Have you thought of the other nappies you wanted? A couple of others I have in my stash are Mandy Macs (fitted - they fit both kids, and are really good, and cheap too!), widdlewuns, happy heiny, haute, cute tooshies, baby beehinds fitted (fitted but fit both of them), errrr.... and all my night nappies (snoozywuns, good night sleep tight and my green kids too).

Can't remember what else i have.. I need food to think... I'll be back if I can remember others..

he he - so you think I should get 4?

Oh its so bloody hard, I cant think of the other ones I was looking at - they are all just so cute and I just want to buy them all! (damn financial constrictions!)

oh - thats it - berry plush! (the light goes on!)

Hmm.. I have a berry plush here - and I hate it!!!! I'm going to sell it (when I get time to load pics of course!!) It just doesn't perform as well as I want it to - but it would make a great cover.. LOL

And I have a habit of ordering 5 ittis at one time - cos I get a bit out of control - then the chicks from IB email me saying do I want another one for the 6 pack cos it works out cheaper - and you get free postage.

And yes. They are cute. Thats why I'm broke.. pmsl!!!

ok - so would you get two ittis and two GK's and wait till bubs is born to get any more (OMG can I handle it?)

PMSL....

Cat - its up to you babe... BUT .. I can tell you that I only got two small Itti Bittis- and she is fitting into the mediums now - even though she is only 5kg - so if you were going to buy some - don't buy too many smalls cos they are sooo trim...

What I did when I first started was get trial packs off some of the websites - they offer good prices. And if I don't like them - I sell them (I've sold 16 of DS' nappies to date).

I did get the Green Kids trial pack and thought it was great. I have to get my butt in gear to order a top up pack... always seem to get distracted!!!!!

wanna sell me your small then? :lol:

Shhh.. can't discuss stuff like that..

but PM me.. LOL

As I paid for my trial bundle by direct deposit, I didn't expect them to get it for a few days, and thought it would be posted by maybe next Tue or Wed, but I just got a email, and its posted and on its way!!!!! :cheer:

I am already so addicted, and I dont even have them yet!!! :rolleyes:

yup... its a sickness....

Hey PurpleMamma,

i got my packages yesterday!! YAY!! So exciting. Still waiting for my BBH.

So far I love the Bumgenius's I got, so absorbent. Tried it on DD last night till morning and nappy was heavy but she felt dry. Too bad all the websites are out of stock!!

Can't say much for the pocket change and happy heinzys though.

Pocket change leaked on teh sides and happy heinys with both inserts doesnt seem to be draining the wee properly.

She's got itti bitti (medium) on atm to try for the night. The itti bitti did look quite small though, it just fit her so I dont know how its going to last until she's 12kgs (she's only 6.9kg atm).

Anyway, wish i knew about the nappy hunt discount earlier, would have saved a bit =(

Please let me know how your trial goes!! ITS SO EXCITING!

I think ur choices are good.

Green Kids are a great choice and the inserts can be bought cheaply from Green Kids if you email them and ask about there seconds (they are $60 fro 10 insread of $10 each) and is nothing wrong with them!!! I used Green Kids every night on my DD with a GK insert and a microfibre booster, and we have never had a problem.

Just remember those its only the ANY TIMES that are recomended for night time. Funtimes and Minkytimes more day time use as not as waterproof. I find GK to be quiet bulky also so thats another reason its a night time nappy for us.

-BumGenius is a great choice - I LOVE MINE just be sure to get v.3.0 and a trial pack or pack of 3 is a great start.

I agree on the haute breathable whilst i have never had a leak she does feel wetter...

Another AIO that might be worht a look is an ITTI BITTI D'LISH or CLASSIC they are GREAT, perfect for a day nappy, nice and trim and look great.

trying to think of more!!!
Oh Baby Safari have a good Side Snap Nappy thats meant to be good and easy to use, i havnt got any yet but want too!!!!!

BbayBehinds are also a cheap option for AIO's, they do NOT last as long as an itti or g/kids but i got some for $18 each much cheaper then some others and they are great for day time use when you know they wont be in the nappy for a long time or a nap, i had a few leaks but mostly due to too much wetting!!!

hope i havnt blabbed to much, trial packs are a great way to start and soon u will have a fav 4 sure.

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Just remember those its only the ANY TIMES that are recomended for night time. Funtimes and Minkytimes more day time use as not as waterproof.

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Actually - it states on GK website that the minky ones are fantastic for night time use - and we do use them in this house for that reason.