I am interested to hear what people thought about antenatal classes.
Can you also tell me if you would recommend them or not.
Thanks
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To your question... we didn't go to antenatal classes. We did hypnobirthing or calm birthing. The reason we didn't go to antenatal as well was we didn't want to undo the good and calm things we were learning... about how the body works and that it's not something which has to be painful as it's natural etc etc. If you have time and can find a hypnobirthing practioner in your area I'd recommend that over antenatal... just my opinion though :)
Thanks for the heads up cass. All changed.
I got the hypnobirthing book and dvd as it came highly recommended and I am glad to hear someone else recommending it. Cant find a hypnobirhting place in my areas that offers classes so am hoping the info that I read in the book will be helpful but am worried about DP as he is my support person and nto sure if he is going to know what to do.
The best thing I learnt was to always say "Can we have 5 minutes to think about that" whenever a doctor wanted to do anything/perform intervention. Our fantastic midwife made us say it out loud during the lessons. At the time I thought it was pretty silly but on the big day I was so glad I remembered it!!! My doctor wanted to hurry things along, but once we asked for our 5 minutes we spoke to the midwives who agreed I was doing really well on my own and we told him "no". Bubs was born with no interventions whatsoever (apart from gas), it was a fantatic birthing experience, even though he was posterior.
I wish I had of remembered those wise words for birth of DS2. I will be hammering it into my head for #3!!!
We did the hospital classes with ds1 and found them to be totally useless in preparing you for labour. Second time around we did a calmbirth course which was just amazing, I totally recommend it, it really helped you to relax and let go and to not tense up, and to stay calm and focused, I was so calm and quiet that the midwife didn't realise I was fully dilated. I found it was also really useful in helping you deal with any issues or fears you may have about the birth so that you are in the right head space. I see you're in Sydney, there are a number of calmbirth classes around, try googling it.
Dh said he found the Active Birth class we did more useful for him than the normal classes. They really helped him understand what was required of him as birth support. I found it fitted in quite well and filled the gaps that the normal classes missed. I like the classes as they were run by the family birth centre, so were very focused on minimal intervention and also focused in the early stuff when bubs finally arrives.
Our classes were run by our hospital and I'm glad we did them as it gave us the opportunity to ask LOTS of questions and also got to meet a great bunch of people who were due around the same time and whom we've kept in contact with. I was glad to know exactly what we could expect and what could/would happen. We got to see the birthing suites and all the ins and outs, so to speak.
As i had GD during my PG I wanted to know about the additional things I could experience as I'd been told I could expect intervention but as it was I went naturally 11 days early and went with an epi for my birth (threw up terribly with the gas) with no other intervention required. My OB/midwife were fantastic and didn't try to rush my labour along.
The classes showed DH some massage techniques which helped during the labour and also some basics like putting on nappies and how to support breastfeeding which for my DH was useful as he'd had extremely limited interaction with babies prior to ours. As DH has no idea what to expect with the birth it also focused on preparing the hubbies for what was going to happen, what they might expect to see, how they can support/help in certain situations, things that they may need to make a decision on if we were unable to etc etc.
As it turned out, our antenatal leader was our nursery attendant as DD was in nursery the first night from low blood sugars so it was a HUGE relief to have someone that we got to know so well during the classes looking after her. We also had the midwife who showed us breastfeeding techniques ended up delivering our DD along with my OB.
I guess it really just does depend on your Dr/OB and hospital. I loved our combination and will use the exact same thing again for any additions to our family. I think the more questions you ask during the classes the better prepared you'll be no matter what the outcome may be. I found the classes gave me an open mind to all the possibilities and meant that I was completely prepared if I was able to birth without any intervention AND the possibilities if i needed intervention which for me with GD was a good chance. I am ALL FOR natural birthing without intervention (our bodies are made for this exact purpose) but I also know that there are times when intervention is needed and as long as that darling baby is born into the world safe and well that is all you can possibly ask for, however on the emotional homefront, preparation and an open mind will ensure baby is healthy and you are too, with whatever outcome may be.
You may find that a combination of an antenatal class at your hospital, so you know the hospitals options and then a natural birthing class such as the ones suggestion will give you a really broad range of information to take in and keep on board.. That way you will be able to find a middle ground, should you need to, that makes you comfortable and makes for a relaxing and successful labour.
P.S. I so love reading about everyone's different experiences with this type of thing but its disappointing that what one person found really useful can be absolutely a waste of time for others. Don't you wish this stuff was all regulated so we all got the same great information!!!
P.S. Water_Lily80 - Great phrase!!! Should be one to keep in the memory log.. I had 1 midwife really early on in my labour who wanted to give me sintocin after an hour or so (got to hosi 3cm dialated. Up to 5cm in 1 hour).. She asked my OB and he gave her an immediate NO as did the other assisting midwife. Thankfully the pushy one went off shift shortly after but I would have been giving them a good "Can we have 5 minutes to think about that"..
I learnt nothing useful at my antenatal classes as far as content was concerned but it was good to meet some of the midwives, meet some other parents and get to know the hospital staff and procedures better. it was good to bounce questions off the midwife so I could gauge how they would react in certain situations in our birth. We didn't go for no. 2 but we did have a hospital appointment at 36wks with the midwives which was just as good.
To push like you are doing a poo! lol no honestly!
PP- my BGF at the time told me that and it always stuck with me... lol its so true!
As for the OP's question... we learnt that there are VERY nasty and old fasioned midwives out there.. took two classe's with this one and never went back! :(
The antenatal classes I went to would have to be the biggest waste of money! I cant believe I paid for them... Honestly, I didnt really learn anything useful and I dont think I would have been any worse off without them. It was all very clinical and hospitally talking about birth as a medical event. They werent particularly pro-natural or anything. They did show massage techniques, not that DH even used them though - I dont think he touched me at all.
I went to hospital run classes - I'm sure a private run class would be better. I see youre in Sydney AliBaby, I have vaguely heard of a place in Rozelle or Balmain or somewhere near there than runs antenatal classes completely indepenent from hospital.
Ali, sent you a pm hun. Hope it helps you.
some private midwives also offer in home, private classes (this came as part of the homebirthing with my midwife for us) but you dont have to homebirth to have private classes - AND lots of health funds cover this!
best thing we learnt? too much to list, but i doubt we would have had such personalised classes at a hossy ;)
just something to look into if you are interested :D
(we havent had our bubs yet...but i've had some flulse labour pains...)
What was the most valuable things that DH and i Learnt at Birth classes where:
- changeing nappys
- active labour possies
- that the teacher midwife we had was FANTASIC!
- to trust our bodies, and to listen to them
- If you feel like screaming turn it into a mone and use that engry to push harder
- Watching DH go sqweemish over new born babies poo! (thats for me ;) )
Our Birthclasses where really good. the teacher we had was very pro-natural birth. she was also VERY realistic with the sounds/noises/actions we'd most likely assume, so we got an idea of what we're in for...
1. That my ex husband was an inconsiderate moron;
2. That I do better reading books and talking to experienced mothers than listening to a nullipara talking rubbish about how losing one's mucus plug is absolutely a sign of imminent labor.
3. That the emphasis on "PAIN" and "PAIN RELIEF" starts well before the first contraction is ever felt.
I bet you can tell that I was a real delight to have around in antenatal classes ;) Maybe I just got the wrong ones!!
Thank you so much for all your replies.
It has actually put my mind at ease that Dp and I are not doing the classes at the hospital. I actually asked my midwife about them and she said they were a bit of a waste and for her to say that to me I sort of thought that I wouldn't be missing much.
I feel like I learn so much more from everyone at BB.
I do like the tip about asking for 5 min to think about something and how to push.
I already know how to change nappies and hold a newborn. And I relly dont think DP needs to see a birth video from the 18th century! :ROFL: If anything I can show him one on You Tube. I am actually going to get him to have a chat to a mate of his whose wife just had a baby as i think he will get more out of speaking to someone who has been through it and knows how to be supportive.
Cass- thanks for the PM. I think the hypnobirthing will be a much better option for me and DP.
Question- what is the difference between hypnobirthing and calmbirthing? They sound similar.
Thanks again for all your honest opinions.
Ali, if your midwife told you the classes at the hospital are a waste of time, then I think that speaks for itself...
I agree with Toomanytoomany. At the classes I went to, the midwife asked everyone what they wanted to know about. There was about 10 couples including us, and I remember 8 of them saying "i want to know about the pain relief option and the drugs", one couple said "tell us about c sections" and I said "I want to know some good ways to manage without drugs, some breathing techniques and good positions to push in so I dont tear"... Needless to say, because everyone else wanted to know about drugs, thats what the midwife talked about most.
Karina- what you wanted to learn about is exactly what I want to know. :)
Well I wanted to learn it, but it seemed that no one else really did! So we learned about epidurals, pethidine, gas... a little bit on massage which DH didnt seem to retain in his brain, rupture of membranes.... and a little bit on induction.
Acually, I did learn something new at the class! - to have lots of sex late in your pregnancy because it can bring on labour because theres something in sperm similar to whats in the drug they use for inductions... or something like that!
in that case hun forget the hossy classes!:
read
new active birth
hypnobirthng - the mongon method
men at birth
gosh i cant remember the other one i read....
check out belly belly's on line store, i am sure you can get most of them there
GL hun, you really can do it without drugs
that nothing ever goes to plan and that its ok
Thanks Kitten- I have the hypnobirthing- Mongon Method on my bedside table and the CD that goes with it. thanks for the heads up on the other books.
BeautifulMadness- My birth plan is to go in with an open mind as I ahve no idea what to expect. Thanks for your advice.
Ali, I'm really not sure what the difference between hypnobirthing and calmbirthing is... it does sound similar to me also. I can only vouch for the hypnobirthing - Mongan method. Just a side note from something our hypnobirthing practitioner told us... don't listen to the CD from the book too early on... something to do with there are certain relaxation/visualisation techniques that you shouldn't do until closer to due date.
Thanks for that tip. Should I save the cd until I go into labour?
Had our first class last night. Most valuable thing I learnt: When feeding, shove as much boobie into baby's mouth as you can, not just the tip of the nipple! I really didn't know that :p Apart from that, nothing! I learn more on here!
Nah, you can listen before that Ali. I think like the last 4 weeks?? Crap... let me email my lady and ask her...lol. Will get back to you!! I will tell her you're too far from anyone to do the course but got the book ;)
.... email sent to her :)
Definitely "Streetlight feeding" .... it is in regards to nighttime feeding of baby:
* Dont turn on any lights (only use the light of a streetlight outside)
* Dont talk to baby
* Dont make eye contact with baby
* Dont play with baby
You need to make nighttime feeding as boring as possible for them so they dont look forward to it everynight.
To be honest, I found antenatal classes pretty useless. I read a lot of textbooks during pregnancy and by the time the classes came when I was 32 weeks pregnant, I pretty much knew all the theory stuff (if only theory was all there was to it!!!!!!) :lol:
Ali, she said that by 33 wks it's ok and recommended to listen to the cd... she said it's best not before 12 weeks... (to be honest I thought she told us longer but nonetheless).... the reason is that the cd has you visualising your uterus opening etc...so listen and visualise away honey!!