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Nope I'm not pregnant, I was just thinking about next time.....
Has anyone been able to book their c/s for their due date? I always read about them being done at anywhere from 37-39 weeks, is this so you don't go into labour beforehand? The reason I ask is that historically I go overdue with my babies (8 & 10 days) so there would be no reason why I'd have to have my c/s booked in earlier than the due date.
Hey babe
With DS I was booked for the 10th January - he was due the 16th. So 39 + 1.
I think it depends on the OB though, cos my sister's OB books hers in usually at around 38.5 weeks - last one was at 37 weeks.
I read a post of yours a little while ago about choosing the date of your babies birth being very 'arbitrary'; so despite not willing to put your body through the motions to try for a VBA2C, why don't you wait to go into labour, so it's an emergency C/S?
If you have a history of going over, it seems possible that it would happen again so if you were to book an elective date I would request it at 41 weeks. Elective CS babies already run the risk of needing to be in SCN because they have not had the chance to get rid of mucous etc, so imagine booking yours at 37-39 weeks, when you have a history of being closer to 42weeks... just seems wrong, and I imagine it would only make the birth experience less empowering, whereas if you do choose an elective, this will be your chance to have a perfect birth and you want the results to be that little one is in your arms after birth.
I hope this has made some sense. Big :hug:
Hey Sarah, ours was booked for 39 weeks exactly, we were given the option of booking for 3 days later as well. When we arrived at the hospital, I was already 8cms, and the OB told us next time I might have to be booked in for 38 weeks.
Nic
Nic if I arrived at 8cm I would be stoked!
CM the problem is mentally I can't prepare myself to go into labour to just have another c/s. I would love to have a VBA2C but mentally I can't do it, I can't get my brain to stop thinking about what happened the last two times & I know it would affect the labour. The thought of deliberately going into labour & then going striaght for a c/s doesn't work for me either. However if my c/s was booked for 40 weeks (or even if it had to be earlier) & I went into labour before that I'd be going for it. Sounds silly I know, but if I happened to go into labour I'd go with the flow and try my hardest to get that baby out but I'm not willing to prepare for labour again just to have everything come crashing down a third time.
which one :rofl:
Nikolaus - emergency....no SCN straight into my room
Wilhelm - due on the 25th Jan - c/s 16th...waters broke on table - again straight in my room...no SCN
Vyolett....emergency on the 2nd Sep as I was in labour and yet again my waters broke on the table :rolleyes: BUT booked for the 5th of Sep - due 13th september - no SCN - breast feed in recovery
Mateauz - due on the 13th of Jan - c/s the 8th....waters broke waiting in the prep room - in SNN due to cord being around his neck and being blue and not breathing when born
I also had generals with all 4.
I wouldn't think about it to much hon.......wait until the later part of your pg...you know your body and at what stage its at
so despite not willing to put your body through the motions to try for a VBA2C, why don't you wait to go into labour, so it's an emergency C/S?
going through one failed VBAC is heart wrenching enough but the risks of complications after having 2 c/s is extremely high..internal bleeding, internal tears of the c/s scar, let alone the emotional scaring involved to your mind for maybe failing again. Its not as easy trying for a VBAC after having an unsuccessful one
:hug: darl, I can totally understand where you are coming from. If only I went into labour in the first place.. LOL
Sarah like you my babies are late being born at 41 and 42 weeks.
Anyway even with my late arrivals every pregnancy is different, I wanted the latest date possible for bubs arrival, OB said that he doesn`t like doing them any earlier then 38 weeks and usually no later then 39 weeks.
Our blue bundle of joy will be arriving on 17th June, at exactly 39 weeks, I was given two dates, the other date was 5 days earlier which was too early for me, OB was happy I picked the later date and it was nice to be given the choice to do so, even weirder is right along we had a feeling bubs would be here on the 17th!!
I do find it a bit strange that this bubs will be arriving so early compared to Matthew and Adrian but I also see their point to doing it at this stage, the last thing they want is an emergency c/sec.
In saying all this I also see a number of women have gone into labour or are very close to dilating when it comes time for their c/sec, I wonder if this happens as the brain isn`t worried about going into labour IYKWIM.
In some ways I wouldn`t be at all surprised if my body does something weird on me and decide to go early.
Also my OB has been very good with my dates, he`s gone on what I`ve told him not what the ultrasound or my last bleeding told him, there`s been no swapping and changing dates due to u/s dates like other OB`s have done to me in the pass.
It`s been good to know way in advance as to bubs birth date, I was told 6 weeks ago and I also know it`ll be after lunch time.
Very well said Maz :clap::
Sarah (and Maz), I am sorry if my suggestion seemed insensitive; I have seen other women suggest it for their own experiences and wondered if it was an option for you. I did not mean any offence, and I am sorry if it came across like that.
Hun, I booked mine for my EDD. We (my OB and I) talked thought my pregnancy, and always said I would labour first, but if, by EDD baby was not here, then CS would happed.
So my DS was blissfully born on his EDD by elective CS.
Not sure what I will do next time... I plan to think about it, if and when I get there... Good on you for facing it now, and working it out. :hug:
Don't be silly Cookie, you weren't insensitive at all & I definitely didn't take offense.
Having a failed VBAC (even though I don't think I failed exactly) makes it very very difficut to trust your body to do the right thing & can make you very frightened of going into labour again. Having one emergency c/s can crush your trust in your body, but having two (or more) is very very hard on your confidence.
CM - to be honest...its hard to hear suggestions from other's who haven't walked in our shoes.
Trying and failing for a VBAC is an extremely emotional crippling thing to go through as a woman. You question your ability as a mother full stop when you have unsuccessfully failed from wanting to do the most natural and god given trait so many other woman seem to breeze through. Its almost like a slap in the face! Going through trying to birth your child naturally only to be sliced open and having the child forcefully removed from your womb takes away some of your dignity as a female.
While others may see c/s as an easy resort....its the emotional baggage that moves in long after your baby has been born that is the crusher :(
Maz I'm sorry :( :hug:
DS was booked in for 23rd May, he was due on 2nd June so 38+4. However, he did decide to make an appearance over a week before the booked date on 11th May (36+6). I laboured for 2 hours beforehand due to getting organised to get to the hospital and waiting for the ob etc. My c/s was due to placenta praevia so once I got to hospital they had to slow things down until they were ready to do the c/s which was now classed as emergency.
Anyway, I think mine was booked for the 38th week because of the praevia and it was risky for me to be in labour I guess with chance of prolapse, haemorraghing etc. I guess for you, Sarah, there would be no reason not to request a date on or past your due date going by history.
When I arrived at the hospital for our c/s with DS and was told how far I was dilated then taken to a labour room..I was secretly excited and terrified at the same time. When they asked if I wanted to attempt a VBAC I got even more scared. I was lying on my back - though I don't think I would've moved to another position, so I knew this wasn't the best option, I was already strapped up to the monitor and they inserted the needle in my hand as a "just in case":
All I could think was, I've been here before..on my back, strapped to a machine, needles in hands, contracting, sucking the life out of the gas...it was a familiar path that had ended with my confidence being shattered first time, and which I wanted to avoid the second time. So I chose the c/s. I do have trouble dealing with it, but then other days I know it was right for my emotional well being.
Sarah, I think you are an ABSOLUTE LEGEND for educating and empowering yourself with attempting a VBAC with Juliette..
Nic
Sarah, after a hard preg, I booked mine yesterday for the day before my EDD.
I haven't had a failed VBAC, but I'm almost certain after a four day labour last time this one won't progress either. If I go before then, well great, we'll give it a go, but I'd rather have the whole experience positive, than be crushed again.
I was booked in for an elective at 38.5. Part of the reason for this date was my other being born at 34 weeks. I went into labour 12 hours before and ended up with an emerg c/s...
best laid plans and all:)...
If I have another baby I will have to have a c/s at 37 weeks due to the scar rupture during this VBAC attempt and the subsequent repair job. I don't think I will be risking it though - no more babies for me :(
Sarah, I say go with your gut instinct. If you feel that your baby would benefit from not being born until at least 40 weeks then go with that. Based on your past history I don't see why they would not agree with letting you book an elective cs a little later than the standard 38-39 weeks.
Im sorry you did not get your VBAC with Juliette and if you do decide to have an elective cs with #3 you know there are things you can request to help make it more special and less traumatic for both you and your baby so putting into place your "ideal" caesarean birth plan may help you to make peace with deciding to have an elective cs next time?
Oh, and back to the original question: my elective cs was at 38+1 weeks but only because I had PE and OB's wanted her out. She was born absolutely fine with no breathing problems too BTW.
Sarah
My first (Julia's birth) was emergency c/s after induction at 41 weeks.
My 2nd was booked as elective c/s on Tara's original due date so 40 weeks. I didnt go into labour with either of the births.
Maz - well said hon.
This is the reason why I did not attempt VBAC, after getting PND from traumatic 3 day labour only ending up in emergency c/s and long recovery afterwards, there was no way I wanted to be a failure again and go through long recovery. I made the best decision and Taras birth of a positve one. And instead of needing Panadine Forte for 6 weeks I only needed them for 3 days after the c/s with Tara's birth and recovered 3 weeks quicker full recovery time.
Did your labours begin hard Sarah?
I only ask because i do understand why you might not want to go through another VBAC attempt, but if your labours are manageable at the start (some women have a long prelabour and others go straight to hard and fast painful ctx) it might be worth "booking" an emergency c-section. That way baby can choose their birthday, they get the hormones and squeezes of some labour, and you can know going in that you're DEFINTIELY not going for the VBA2C, just waiting for bubs to let you know they're cooked, kwim? The risks of early, mild labour would not i imagine be greater than the late-PG braxton hicks ctx in terms of rupture, and it would just be a matter of you calling the Ob and heading in to be prepped for theatre.
Perhaps when the time comes you will feel differently anyway, your DD is still quite a little sweetie ATM. Time might make you decide a 39week c/s is fine, or that you want to have a VBAC afterall. And perhaps it won't. I usually find women become far more certain of things when they're actually pregnant, because the options look different once you're "there".
Could discuss this with your Ob? Give them a call and discuss it all with them? Babies definitely benefit from labour, but it's important for them to be born to a MUM who's in the best condition, physically and emotionally, too.
I will admit i feel sad at the idea of you not going for another VBAC, because you soooooo deserved one last time and didn't get it. Your VBAC journey was one of the most inspiring i've ever read, here was a woman fully informed and ARMED with the tools to allow Nature to do what Nature is supposed to do. The fact that the birth itself ended up being a c/s somehow seemed irrelevant. You set out to attempt VBAC and my GOODNESS you did! I have linked your posts to several friends via email and one of them is planning her VBAC in 3 weeks or so! You are an inspiration not because of the destination you aimed for but because of the road you built yourself. If every woman approached birth the way you approached your VBAC the WHO guidelines would probably seem grossly excessive! Your first c/s, i might be misremembering, but was it for FTP? Something which in retrospect you felt wasn't justified? But with DD you did EVERYTHING you could hun. Your c/s WAS justified. You didn't fail and nor did your body. For whatever reason, she needed to be born that way. It is so hard when one has had the same result despite completely different approaches, not to stack them up into a conclusion. Have you considered that perhaps DS could have come vaginally but DD would STILL have needed to be a c/s? That it isn't that VB cannot happen for you, but that it wasn't allowed to happen with DS and plain couldn't happen with DD?
If i am out of line, you must whack me smartly back. I would never discourage a woman from having the birth she WANTS to have. I just wanted you to know that for me, and for a few women i know who have also read some of your words, you were a powerful inspiration for VBAC, and not because you had success, but because you faced down the fear to try. You did absolutely everything you could to give vaginal birth a go, despite the comments from others, and i cannot tell you how much respect i have for that.
You have definitely done more than most do, and if next time around you want try a 3rd approach, whether it be pre-labour c/s or during-labour c/s that is completely justified. But never feel that the 2nd approach was a failure Sarah, you laid a solid path to success and that is all anyone can do, and far more than most actually do.
Big hugs
Bx
hey
my first C/sect was emergancy so didn't book
with the twins my Dr didn't like to book he liked you to go as long as you can he would see you daily if he had too. (lucky he didn't charge more and also had no gap) I went into prem labour but the plan was surposed to be at first sighn of labour i was to call him he would confirm labour and do c/sect. i think he had priority at his hospital cause he seemed to get anything he wanted.
so yeh didn't have a due date for the c/sect.