Soo upset ... over nappies

With all the problems in the world I know this is a small whinge but I am totally upset over it and this is really just a whinge to get it off my chest as no one really understands I can get so upset over nappies!

My DD has extreme eczema on her bum so I need to be very very careful about what nappies I use on her. Trust me I have tried everything. I even converted her to full time cloth (bumG, BBH, Hautes, Pocketchange, HH) but it didnt help her much.

The only nappy that really works for her is the OLD DESIGN huggies nappies.

I search far and wide for them and when I say far and wide I mean far and wide.

I ring shops up and ask them if they have any OLD DESIGN nappies and usually they dont understand what i mean so i have to go there and check myself.

I have even bought boxes from chemists (but they usually jack up the prices so much that i cannot afford their prices anymore, so I buy them from the supermarket and then ask the chemists if I can swap them. Some are more than happy)

I search on ebay, usually they only have pick up.

The other night i thought i hit JACKPOT! 3 boxes of OLD DESIGNS!!! I bought them.

They got picked up by a friend of mine.

I was absolutely over the moon

I tried them. THEY ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SUCKED!!!!! OMG!!! They leaked and leaked and leaked.
I have no idea what it is but they leaked but I think it is because they are not the OLD DESIGN with the fast absorbing layer (I THINK). They made my DD's bum weep from blood because the moisture isnt getting absorbed enough.

I am so sad, DD has a very very sore bleeding bum which she ALWAYS TRY TO SCRATCH and I am out of ideas how I can these old design nappies.

I just wasted $100 buck and I dont know how to get that back as the seller is not returning my emails =(

Anyway, thanks for reading ladies. I know its something small but when you've tried to do the best for your child and it just fails it hurts.

Hi phoenix.
Have you tried using the raw silk liners with your cloth nappies? They are supposed to help with rashes ezcema etc?
It also depends onthe inners/linigs of the nappies that you used - ask around (I apologise if you have done this and I missed your post :( ) in the cloth general discussion thread as there are a few mums in there who will have some suggestions in there regarding fabrics/liners etc?

As for ebay I would leave neg feedback if they dont rely to you and sold you something that was not what they said it was.

I would ring huggies themselves and ask them what they can do.,.

Sorry to hear your DD has such a sore bottom

Hi Ladies

Thanks for the advice. For the cloth nappies Ive only tried 100% bamboo liners. They didnt work because they didnt wick the moisture from her bum.

Maybe I should give cloth another try with raw silk (where can we get that)

I did ring Huggies, the lady was nice about it so i sent over 27 nappies! (3 from each plastic packs)

Hopefully they get back to me soon.

Thanks once again, it was good to get it out.

oxox

Sorry to hear you are having a hard time! What about trying micro-polar fleece liners?? They are 'stay dry', so her skin would stay dry. (Sorry if you have already tried this)
Hope that helps. Good luck! :)

Yup already tried them. I think the material is too scratchy for her sensitive bum (even other it feels soft)

Thanks all ladies. Lets see what huggies says and I might get some raw silk to try (where can we find them?)

Thanks!

I'm sure you already did this...but I'm gonna say it anyway, LOL....when you were on the phone to Huggies did you ask if they still had any old stock of the older style nappies? Surely they would still have some lying around?? If you explain your situation and tell them that they are the ONLY nappies your bub can wear they might be able to hunt some up for you.

As for the leaky Huggies...we were just talking about this at playgroup the other day. A friend of mine bought a box of Huggies and every nappy had one side of the gusset missing (the elasticy bit inside the nappy) and they all leaked. She called huggies and they sent her out a new box.

Good luck...I hope you find some soon.

As for the raw Silk liners...I have no idea...but I'm sure one of the more seasoned cloth girls can tell you where to get them.:D

Just google raw silk nappy liners. There are some from a WAHM naps site.
Alternatively you could make your own if you are handy with a sewing machine or have an overlocker :)

HTH

Hi, hope you get some where with huggies! I agree with Marlene, I would be telling them about your situation and see if they can help.

For the cloth - All the nappies you mentioned have microfibre tops which is synthetic and quite a few bubs have problems with this fabric against their skin. Have you triedn natural fibres against the skin, organic cotton velour is good (swaddlebees, new BumG AIO - not pockets) or flanellete or raw silk liners against the skin but some can find these too abrasive if there is already damage to the skin. I wish I could send you some to try but I don't have all that many that are natural inners - maybe try second hand???

Good luck

Just wanted to say good luck hun :hug: hope you find the old style huggies and heaps of boxes of them. Otherwise the girls have given you some great advice hopefully something here helps your DD.

Thanks heaps for the support ladies. When I rang huggies I broke down LOL (funny now because Im thinking, wow! I broke down over NAPPIES).

I have tried the swaddlebee but somehow DD's bum didnt agree with them too. I also have the Bamboo BBHs.

I havent tried raw silk though.

I put Moo Goo on DD and her bum still is so sensitive *SIGH*

The lady said they dont have any old stock available and if they do find out there are issues with this batch they will send me the new boxes only, hopefully they had fixed the issues they had when they brought out the new designs!

I'm so appreciative of you ladies are so understanding because as I was typing this page i was thinking *geeze its about NAPPIES* but when I see DD's sore bum I feel so sad especially when she is struggling to get changed.

Honestly i just wanted to burn the 3 boxes of nappies because the amount of time it leaked through DD's pants is crazy. So frustrated!

Currently I'm using them with a BBH cover. Any other options (other than burning them) for 3 boxes of useless nappies?? LOL

once again LOVE YOU ALL FOR UNDERSTANDING!

Hmmm.... ....sell them to newly lactating mothers to freeze and use on their engorged breasts??? ....sell them to friends of expecting mums to use for the game they do at baby showers where you melt chocolate onto them for participants to guess the chockie...???
Sorry, not very helpful, but hope it provided a little laugh. Sorry about your DD's sensitive bot, it must be pretty hard for both of you. I hope you can find a solution!

phoenix - what are you using to treat the ezcema - might be that you need to resort to a full on ezcema cream til it settles down, and as much nappy free time as you can manage?
When DS had really bad nappy rash, which was only 1-2 times thats what we had to do after trying everything natural. Then when it settles started again.

I agree i didnt like microfibre against my DS bottom either, but had some boosters that were m/f but with a softer sherpa or fleece topper on one side.

I use Moo Goo as I wanted to avoid the steroid creams. It only helps a bit though =(

I may have to try airing her bum a bit more as I havent tried that.

Thanks for the advice!

hi phoenix, I dont know if you have already explored this, but is it possibly fungal? my ds has a very sore red bum, has had since we used targets brand nappies at 2 wks old :doh: I wasnt able to ever completely get rid of it, I have now started using cloth nappies and it seemed to be getting better then all of a sudden it was the worst it had ever been! the nurse at the hospital yesterday suggested I use clonea (generic canesten) cream on it, and even after the first application it is looking better.

Hmmmmm ... I never actually thought it was fungal. Just thought it was eczema. I know that when I use the old huggies her bum gets better like straight away, any other nappies including the new one triggers it again.

Might take her to see the docs to make sure it is not infected.

My DS had eczema, and I went to a naturopath. They put him on a probiotic, and honestly it made a world of difference.
Maybe give it a go>? It can't hurt?? You get the powedered version for the chemist and just add to food or milk. (I am not sure how old your DD is, but if eating or having cup of milk, it goes a treat)

hon

PM me your addy babe...I'll send you some velour liners for you to try. they are super soft on an eczema and super sensitve bum (speaking from experience) I tried for ages to stop the redness..it really did my head in, even silk liners didnt work but ive found that velour works a treat. the liners will work in a sposie as well to...just remember not to throw them out with the nappy :) (I'll make sure their nice and bright for you)

the nappies you mentioned probably didnt work as they dont have a kept dry layer hon. And the only thing we have found that works for us are bamboo layers nappies with velour linings.

hear form you soon ;)

Big hugs for you and your DD. :comfort: This is not a cry over nappies, it's about a poor little bottom that must be hurting and I think everyone can understand how upset you must be feeling when you're going to incredible lengths to do the best you can to solve the problem. I haven't got any advice on the bad batch of nappies but I hope you are able to sort something out. How old is your DD? I think I'd be asking for a referral to take DD to a paediatrician or skin specialist about her poor little bottom. I feel so sad for you both. :cry:

Definately get your DD's bottom checked for fungal infection. I sounds very similar to what my niece has. If you have heaps of nappies and don't know what to do with them then put them on EBay.

Maz - you are such a wonderful lady!!!

Hugs sweets

Thank you all for being so understanding.

We actually have seen 2 specialists for her eczema and even went to the Children's Hospital but all they did was to give her creams with steroids which I didnt continue with.

I did some research and give her Mega oil from Graham's Alternative medicine range but that doesnt seem to help.

I have also been to a chinese herbalist in Melbourne and his cream works really really well but I am still wary as to what is in there.

I havent tried a naturopath.

I don't want to put the nappies back on ebay because I dont want any mums experiencing the same thing as me.

If anyone wants to see how crap these batch of nappies are feel free to PM me and Ill send you some samples! They are even useless for mopping up the floor ehehhe

Maz you are way too kind!!

Once again thank you all for the support! Im just so over the moon that you all understand how i feel!!!!!

I got some raw silk liners online from nurture nappies. I haven't used them yet as I got them JIC and haven't needed them so I don't know if they work or not.

What do you use to clean DD's bot? If it is eczema that might be making a difference. I get eczema on my hands and heaps of cleansers (washing liquid, soaps etc) make them pretty bad. Maybe you can hunt down an alternative? Perhaps talk to a pharmacist?

:hugs:
Can't really relate to eczema on the bum but ds has pretty bad facial atopic eczema. The most recent doctor told us steroid cream r bad for young bubs so he prescribed us ELIDEL. Its non-steroid. Prior to this doctor, ds was put onto antibiotics (both oral n cream) to treat the infection. I'm not sure how it'd work on the bum, but also try wet dressing? also as pp had mentioned, give lots of nappyfree time if u can. I'm not sure whether its feasible for u n ur Bub, but maybe ec is a good alternative so u don't need nappies?
As for the huggies, I've never had a leak but I've notice that nappies from older batches would feel like cardboard. Sounds silly but maybe nappies have due dates too cos of the chemical?

hope u find a solution, all the best xo

Just a quick update. I rang Huggies to see what the progression was of my complaint was. I must admit they are extra nice people. She told me that they did find problems with the boxes I have. They were 10g LIGHTER hence why it was leaking and causing an issue.

I tried making DD go nappyless but all she did was scratch scratch scratch until her bottom bled and trust me, gloves on her hands will just come off her in a instance!

It's getting better now though, I've been changing her nappies like every 10 mins or whenever I feel she did a pee.

I use disposible wipes and hand towels but I usually rinse the disposible wipes with water first as even the non fragrant ones can react.

Thank you all ladies for the support!!!!

that is great news from huggies...are they willing to help you in anyway????

Ive jsut ordered some eczema cream from moo goo hon and OMG it is fantastic!!!!!! we still have a little patch but Mateauz whole butt was covered, I even put it on my ezcema on my hands only once and its almost cleared up.

google moo goo. Its all organic to and smells good enough to eat

Ive been using Moo goo on her, it helps a bit not overly much (maybe because when I change her she itches so much the cream probably comes off)

Ive also got some of their new psorasis and eczema cream as well! (yet to try on her bum but have tried it on her hands, didnt see a difference though)

oh bugger :( poor little chicken.

I hope that its only childhood ezcemer and that she grows out of it hon.....she must be in so much pain :(

Her skin has improved so sooo much since she was born so im hoping it would go away too.

I was looking back at her photos and couldnt believe how bad it was before. Her scalp was oozing with sappy liquid and she was sooo blotchy on her face.

The only thing that helped us was an alternate chinese medicine man in Melbourne (we're from syd) but I am trying to use his creams sparingly.

I went to the children's hospital and they told me to stop using his creams (as they do not know what is in there) and they prescribed me with steroid based creams. I had every cream under the sun (most of which were unopened)

Problem with these creams is it doesnt stop the itchiness, whereas the chinese creams did.

Anyway, so much conflicting information.

In the end, I stopped going to the children's hospital (as they refused to do an allergy test on her) and used the chinese cream only when it gets really bad.

Ahhh ... sorry I just ranted on again about DD's eczema LOL (tend to do this alot)!

Hon, if the chinese creams were working then use them. Medical professionals are usually overly sceptical of eastern/alternative medicine when it can really help so don't worry about the fact "they" don't know what's in it. Ask your chinese herbalist?

Eg - I was booked in with an orthopedic surgeon at 12-14 for curvature of my spine they wnated to put a rod in my back and a brace - also my knee had a problem that was wearing away all the cartiledge - I was told I would need knee replacement by the time I was 20.

One trip to the chiropractor who found I had a twist in my pelvis - over a period of a year with chiro my spine straighten and my knees got better - the orthopod refused to accept it was from the chiro?????? Go with your gut and use the cream that works

babe...you gotta go with what you know works. our Pead turned his nose up at me when I said I had been giving Mateauz honey for his blood....he said no infant under 12 months should have honey blah blah blah.....funny how Mateauz has no signs on brian damage on his u/s isnt it compared to the one before I started honey. (I also breast feed him until 7 months which he was happy wiith) and the clots are gone..

I have had a few experiences with my youngest and skin problems. The oozing rash on the face as a wee bub and the bleeding bum thing are both very common here. The one thing which changed it all for us was a dairy free diet. Have you tried taking her off all forms of cows milk protein. Because what you are describing sounds like classic cows milk protein intolerance - not allergy, but intolerance. This one they can grow out of unlike an allergy.....my bub is almost 2 now and can tolerate some cheese now and then without leaving her bum bleeding.

When I say totally take it out, I mean all additives containing skim milk powder, whey protein, or other dairy derivatives. There are lots and lots added to everything, but there's always a dairy free alternative for all products (even chocolate).

I would bet that after a month to 6 weeks off dairy you would notice a complete turnaround, but I noticed the change happen after 3-4 days to a week for sure.

Unfortunately the chinese herbalist does want to reveal what his "secret formula is". He's a bit ****y as well.

I am just wondering, because her bum is getting better, do you think it is because I switched from formula to A2 cows milk? (Although, I did read some studies that it is not proven that A2 is more beneficial).

Can you give me some tips on how you change your bub River? It totally stresses me out when I change DD because she's always always scratching and once i put the nappy on she is CRYING SO MUCH i have to quickly pick her up and distract her.

I try to give her toys to play with before hand but once the nappy goes off, no toy is good enough, she would scratch and scratch!

Even if A2 milk isn't much different from normal dairy milk (I have no idea if it is or not except that I know a diabetic who drinks it instead of reg milk), it'll still be much better than infant formula. Sorry I can't be of more help.