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    Welcome to the Vegetarian chatter thread!

    This is a place for you to discuss your vegetarian lifestyle. Please try to remember that actual recipes may get lost in here and would be best posted in a new thread.

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    Subscribing but will be back tmrw for a proper post, Ninight

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    Hi all,

    I am posting my favourite nut roast recipe - very yummy for xmas. It can be made ahead of time, especially if you do not want the oven going on xmas day. We usually make two nut roasts for christmas lunch, accompanied by baked vegies (if the day isn't too hot) and fresh salads. We serve it warm with a home made tomato and garlic sauce. It can also be eaten cold.
    I found this recipe in a book called 'The Vegan Health Plan' by Amanda Sweet.
    Serves 4-6

    Nut Roast with Lemon and Garlic Stuffing:

    NUTMEAT
    100g wholemeal breadcrumbs
    225g nut meal (almond, brazil, hazel or a combination)
    1 large onion, chopped
    A knob of non-dairy margarine
    1 heaped tablespoon flour
    150ml soy/rice/oat milk
    150ml vegetable stock
    1 teaspoon miso or yeast extract (ie. Vegemite)
    1 teaspoon nutmeg
    Black pepper

    STUFFING:
    75g wholemeal breadcrumbs
    50g melted non-dairy margarine
    1/2 small onion, grated
    1 clove garlic, chopped
    2 tablespoons fresh chopped parsley
    Rind of 1 lemon, finely grated

    METHOD:
    Set oven to 190 degrees celsius.
    Grease and line a 1 kilo loaf tin with a strip of greaseproof paper that overhangs the tin at each end.

    Make nutmeat first: Fry onion in margarine until soft. Add flour, stir and cook for 1 min.
    * Remove from heat and gradually add milk and stock, stirring continuously to avoid lumps. Return to heat and bring to boil, stirring continuously until sauce thickens.
    * Add yeast extract/miso, nutmeg and pepper. Stir well.
    * Add nuts and breadcrumbs to the onion sauce and mix thoroughly to form a stiff but moist nutmeat.

    Make stuffing: Combine all ingredients and mix well.
    * Put half the nutmeat in loaf tin and press down firmly. Pile the stuffing on top and press again. Finally, put remaining nutmeat on the stuffing and smooth the top.
    * Bake for 1 hour until brown and firm. Cool slightly in tin before inverting on to a serving plate. Remove greaseproof paper.
    * Garnish with parsley and lemon wedges.
    * Can be frozen cooked or uncooked; thaw before baking.

    I submitted this nut roast recipe to my local paper and they printed it this week.

    Well, we have a xmas party/lunch tomorrow. I WAS going to make rice paper rolls (surprise, surprise) but I found out that someone else who is going to the lunch is making them. So, I have made a tofu salad (marinade tofu in soy sauce, fresh ginger, crushed garlic, olive oil and sweet chilli sauce, then toss with carrot matchsticks, green beans or snowpeas, and purple cabbage) and a Rainbow salad (shredded beetroot, shredded cabbage, carrot matchsticks, thinly sliced green capsicum, roasted slivered almonds, with a dressing of olive oil, sesame oil, soy sauce, white vinegar, caster sugar. Just prior to serving, add a packet of Changs fried crispy noodles.).

    I am part way through making shortcrust custard tarts (egg free, of course) so I will let you know how they go.

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    Hi there!

    I've just read through the original thread, because I'm a vegetarian (vegan at home) who - in 2010 - will begin TTC for the first time I have many thoughts and questions about the TTC part, and I'm sure I'll get involved in other parts of BB for that - but of course, I've already had both my parents and the parents in law ask me about veg*n pregnancy and veg*n parenting. So I'm hoping to meet others who have gotten through this and are living it.

    More on me - I'm 30, husband is 32, we've been married 3 years, together 5. We live in Hawthorn / Melbourne. I'm finishing a PhD - I work in alcohol and other drug research (public health stuff) and my hubby is also in the university sector working as a writer/editor/teacher. He also writes poetry. Our jobs are for love, not money, so now we are contemplating having a family - I'm hoping we can do it cheaply We've been vegetarian 5 years and vegan-at-home 1 year. Would like to be fully vegan but have not yet gotten through hurdles of eating out. I can definitely relate to some of your posts about dealing with veg*n foods and family events! We also live without a car, in an apartment at the moment, and we try to live a Green lifestyle, still learning as we go with that.

    Do you have any advice for veg*n diets and TTC and pregnancy? I know there is a lot of info out there about it, and I intend to buy books on the subject... wondered if people had any recommendations or things they learnt from their own experiences with doing this, as well as coping with other people's opinions!

    We are really looking forward to this next couple of years - an exciting time! I do hope I can remain vegetarian if not vegan. I'm healthy now so hopefully it is possible! Reading other people's stories certainly makes it feel more possible

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    Hi Tronica! Welcome!

    I don't have a lot of time to write right now, but I think I will have a lot to talk about - my DH also did a PhD while we lived in Hawthorn, and we are now car-less; we weren't when we lived there, but could be now.

    The girls here will have plenty of info to get you started.

    Meanwhile, I'm living on Japanese curry and rice here. And the odd inari, and we managed some soba noddles tonight, but I have a wild feeling they were cooked in some kind of meat broth. Vegan in Japan is one million times more challenging than I expected.

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    Hi snugglebean!

    Have you see Neon Pilgrim? The book was written by a friend of ours: a vegan who hiked through a Japanese island! You might find it relevant

    I love not having a car, but don't know how possible/feasible that would be once we have a family!

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    Hi Tronica.

    Ah, I know who your friend is! I read her article in the latest edition of Vegan Voice.
    Funny, after I read Snugglys post, I thought, 'gee, I wonder if she has read the article?'

    Snuggly, are you heading to Osaka? Well, just in case you are, here are the details of a restaurant that does 'vegan French-Japanese fusion food' (according to Tronica's friend):

    Maman Terrace
    1-5-4 Shinsaibashi-suji,
    Cho-ku, Osaka
    ph. 06 6282 2774

    Oh, I really hope you haven't just left Osaka...without finding this restaurant!

    Tronica, I will pop back in soon with some info about vegan pregnancy. I have had 3 vegan pregnancies, and my kids are all life vegans.

    Hello to Peach, Na Na and Cherished

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    OH no I didn't realise there was another thread started OK so what have I missed...

    Aliash that Nut Roast with Lemon and Garlic Stuffing looks yummo, thanks for sharing! adn thanks for your well wishes on my pregnancy announcement thread!

    SnugBug hope you're having a great time in Japan, I got your PM, will chat when you get back you lucky Japanese curry eating machine hehehe

    tronica I too am looking into nutrition and pregnancy again as I am starting to get a bit worried about it

    Everyone... The acupuncturist/chinese herbal medican man who I credit to helping me get pregnant has suggested that I try to eat some red meat once a week OMG I was in shock!!!!!! mind you my dh has been going too and he didn't say that he needed to eat any meat SO girls here is what he said the problem was... My liver needs the blood from meat or something like that and as a tonic for the blood (to cleanse it or something as he thinks it's slightly toxic) my digestive system is a bit slugish because it's not 'needing' to really work... I asked him if any of the protein sources that I currently eat would be enough protein and he said an egg (which I have an intolerance to) a day could 'possibly' do the job but the only thing that will really do it properly is red meat Do any of you know of something which is like a blood substitute for vegetarians? I know it's just the oddest question! But what else will give you the blood and iron etc etc that other get from red meat. I still can't believe that this is even happening!!!

    Hello everyone else hope you have a great 2010 xoxoxo

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    Hey Girls,
    How is everyone?
    Cherished- That totally sucks about what the herbal man said Its hard hey because on one hand you would do anything to keep Baby healthy but then its like argh there has to be another way! I honestly have no idea about a blood substitute for red meat... When I was UTD I just ate as per usual but took folic and elevit... everyone is different though, Im sure the rest of the Girls will have better advice than me

    Tronica- Welcome! And best of luck with ttc. As I said to Cherished when I was ttc I really just kept doing what I usually did, although I did stop drinking before ttc. I would say I was quite healthy at the time and kept excersizing(sp) while preg. I guess the main thing I had an issue with was peoples opinions, especially mine and DPs families. I had to learn to both ignore comments but also become a bit more educated on vego issues so I had ways to back myself up... Im kind of dribbling on here I think.

    Snuggly- How is Japan you jet setter you?! I hope your having an awesome time and have found some good veg food

    NaNa- Hello and where for art thou?

    Aliash- Hi how are you going?

    AFM- Ive just eaten a whole packet of sanitarium smoked deli slices in one sitting DP snatched them off me half way through the pack but I snuck them out of the fridge when he wasnt looking. Man they are so tasty! Things here have been good, xmas was pretty awesome actually my family had so much vego stuff inc heaps of antipasto and dips and DPs family had a heap of veg stuff too for once it was so great to eat nice stuff at christmas instead of going home dissapointed. And guess what? Next year both families are coming ours for xmas day so that should be challenging but good... well see!
    NYE tonight and we are making pizza and Im going to have some beers and try and stay up untill midnight... which I havnt done since 2005! Im a terrible piker.
    Hope everyone has a fantastic night!

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    Hey Cherished, I guess I would say that the advice you have been given is just one person's perspective/opinion. You could visit 10 different practitioners of 10 different modalities and get 10 different pieces of advice. In the end you need to do what feels right for you. I have had similar advice over the years.

    A GP once said 'I wish you would just eat meat a couple of times a week' when I was pregnant with my first child. Suffice to say, I did NOT follow her advice. There are some lines I will never cross. I do not believe that I have to eat the bodily fluid or flesh of another animal in order to have a healthy baby. In fact, I have three healthy children, so I know this to be true!

    Like Peach, I had to deal with the opinions of others who felt that raising a baby on a vego diet was impossible. Thankfully, after our beautiful, healthy baby was born without 2 heads, people shut up! And for my second and third pregnancies, there were no comments at all.

    Cherished, if you PM me your email address, I will email you a couple of articles that I wrote for a vegan mag, with info on vegan pregancy. You may find them useful, and at the very least, there are some good references.

    I have no doubt hon, that you can grow a gorgeous healthy bub without consuming meat or blood.

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    Hi hi, Cherished just sent me in here to post a recipe for butter chicken that I use. It's vegetarian and can also be made vegan with the right ingredients. I made it for my vegan sister recently and she absolutely loved it. (So did I!!)
    To start, the 'chicken' can be purchased from asian health food shops - or search out Lamyong brand, some supermarkets sell it and they have a website as well. They do a heap of asian vegetarian/vegan food and I believe have recently set up online purchasing. I used the chicken steaks but have just tonight used lamyong vegan crispy soy slices in a dish and they were fantastic and would do the job great.
    To make it vegan, I substituted cream with a dairy free whipping base that can be purchased from jewish supermarkets, just make sure you read the instructions for making it up if you haven't used it before (I neglected to do that and put way too much in!! Made it a bit sweet).
    Butter Chicken recipe is:
    100g butter (or nuttelex or other vegan substitute)
    4 cashewnuts (I've never added these, always forget to buy them)
    1 sprig coriander leaves (or the bottled ones!)
    1 tbsp coriander powder
    tsp crushed fenugreek leaves (have had trouble finding these so haven't used this either)
    tsp cumin seeds
    100ml cream (whipping base)
    1 tsp ginger/garlic paste
    2 sliced green chillies
    Oil
    1 onion
    500g mock chicken sliced
    1 tsp red chilli powder
    Salt to taste
    tsp sugar
    200g tomatoes (I usually use quite a bit more, half dozen or so medium to large ones always truss, more flavour to them)

    Rub sliced chicken with garlic, ginger, chilli powder and salt then shallow fry in oil and set aside. Because you're using the vegetarian stuff, try to rub in the flavour as much as possible (without destroying the 'meat'!) as it won't absorb a whole lot since it won't need to cook as long as chicken does.

    In oil, put cumin, onion, ginger, garlic and fry. Add whole tomatoes, cashews and any remaining spices, cook covered, add a little water (if necessary) until everything is mushy. Put in blender and blend. With the tomatoes, I score the bottom and cut off the stem section and then put them into the pan/pot to cook with everything else. Once they soften, I pull the skins off as they change the texture of the sauce and it tastes quite a bit better without the skins.

    Add hot melted butter and return to heat check seasoning. Add chicken and cream and cook for a few minutes.

    Hope you find this a tasty dish, obviously you can increase or decrease the heat but this recipe has proven to be what several of my friends have said is the best butter chicken they've ever had (including my husband who has tried it in many restaurants in his time!).

    Oh, and Cherished, the tikka was using the crispy soy strips, green beans, snow peas, a couple of small onions fried up first, and passage to india gluten free tikka masala simmer sauce. Unfortunately this is not vegan, but is vegetarian and it does taste very good.

    I have some good friends who are indian and they have been teaching me how to cook authentic indian food. As they know I'm vegetarian (and several of them are too) I've picked up a few great indian recipes.

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    YAY thanks Smallfry! I will def be trying out your recipe There are so many great recipes from the girls on the 1st thread is you wanna go back through them for any inspiration.

    Aliash I would loooove you to email me the articles, I was telling peach earlier that I am desperate for an alternative! I am going to the acupuncturist and getting herbs every week at the moment and after the 1st tri I might drop down to fortnightly and if my body isn't doing what it is meant to be doing than I will have to go and get another opinion. My core belief (and dh's) is that I do not have to eat any meat or blood to be healthy... Having said that I went to the acupuncturist for pains (which he has fixed) but as I said he advise was to eat meat to keep those pains away and to keep my liver working well.....

    Peach thanks for your pm too hon, have a wonderful time tonight drinking bear and staying up late... you rebel! hehehhe

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    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I hope you all enjoyed New Years Eve. If all goes well this year, next NYE may be the first without alcohol for a few years for me...

    I just received an email back from Kerry Hampton of Wise Woman Business (a natural fertility educator in Melbourne), who said she can help me to try to conceive naturally with PCOS - which is something I wanted to try before going the medical route. So now I'm all excited about that!

    @snugglebean. Thanks for the welcome! So you know how it is to live in Hawthorn as a student... It's convenient but people around here have different political and social values to us, and we wondered how important that would be when we have a family (eg. would I get along with mothers in a local mothers group or should I move somewhere more aligned with our values?). We don't mind too much being the odd ones out but might be different with kids, as so many things are 'local' (we socialise in the inner north Melbourne even though we live here). - where did you and your family end up moving to?

    @Aliash. Vegan pregnancy info would be amazing. I'll PM my email address. I know there are books on the subject. If you could recommend the best one, I'd appreciate that. It's wonderful/inspiring to see someone who is raising a vegan family successfully!

    @cherished1. Wow, that's a tough thing to have someone tell you this! I would definitely want a second opinion - surely there is a way of achieving the same outcome without eating red meat.

    @Peach. I am a bit concerned about coping with other people's opinions but I'm hoping to be all versed on veg pregnancy and raising a family veg so I can be an example of how it can be done well. Then, maybe other people will see it can be done and do it themselves! That's the plan anyway

    I'm actually looking forward to having a solid excuse to stop drinking. As much as I enjoy it, I like the feeling of eating healthily and not being intoxicated but have trouble keeping to it when socialising. But I know it's socially acceptable to avoid drinking when pregnant, so I'm happy about that potential

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    Happy new year Everyone!
    I had to stop in to share the exciting news, after 2 and a half years gathering dust I am finally using the bread maker DP got me! Only 35 mins left untill I will be tasting(hopefully) amazing home-made bread, yippee!

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    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I hope you all enjoyed New Years Eve. If all goes well this year, next NYE may be the first without alcohol for a few years for me...

    I just received an email back from Kerry Hampton of Wise Woman Business (a natural fertility educator), who said she can help me to try to conceive naturally with PCOS - which is something I wanted to try before going the medical route. So now I'm all excited about that!

    @snugglebean. Thanks for the welcome! So you know how it is to live in Hawthorn as a student... It's convenient but people around here have different political and social values to us, and we wondered how important that would be when we have a family (eg. would I get along with mothers in a local mothers group or should I move somewhere more aligned with our values?). We don't mind too much being the odd ones out but might be different with kids, as so many things are 'local' (we socialise in the inner north Melbourne even though we live here). - where did you and your family end up moving to?

    @Aliash. Vegan pregnancy info would be amazing. I'll PM my email address. I know there are books on the subject. If you could recommend the best one, I'd appreciate that. It's wonderful/inspiring to see someone who is raising a vegan family successfully!

    @cherished1. Wow, that's a tough thing to have someone tell you this! I would definitely want a second opinion - surely there is a way of achieving the same outcome without eating red meat.

    @Peach. I am a bit concerned about coping with other people's opinions but I'm hoping to be all versed on veg pregnancy and raising a family veg so I can be an example of how it can be done well. Then, maybe other people will see it can be done and do it themselves! That's the plan anyway ...hope your bread is delish!

    I'm actually looking forward to having a solid excuse to stop drinking. As much as I enjoy it, I like the feeling of eating healthily and not being intoxicated but have trouble keeping to it when socialising. But I know it's socially acceptable to avoid drinking when pregnant, so I'm happy about that potential

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    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I hope you all enjoyed New Years Eve. If all goes well this year, next NYE may be the first without alcohol for a few years for me...

    I just received an email back from Kerry Hampton of Wise Woman Business (a natural fertility educator), who said she can help me to try to conceive naturally with PCOS - which is something I wanted to try before going the medical route. So now I'm all excited about that!

    snugglebean. Thanks for the welcome! So you know how it is to live in Hawthorn as a student... It's convenient but people around here have different political and social values to us, and we wondered how important that would be when we have a family (eg. would I get along with mothers in a local mothers group or should I move somewhere more aligned with our values?). We don't mind too much being the odd ones out but might be different with kids, as so many things are 'local' (we socialise in the inner north Melbourne even though we live here). - where did you and your family end up moving to?

    Aliash. Vegan pregnancy info would be amazing. I'll PM my email address. I know there are books on the subject. If you could recommend the best one, I'd appreciate that. It's wonderful/inspiring to see someone who is raising a vegan family successfully!

    cherished. Wow, that's a tough thing to have someone tell you this! I would definitely want a second opinion - surely there is a way of achieving the same outcome without eating red meat.

    Peach. I am a bit concerned about coping with other people's opinions but I'm hoping to be all versed on veg pregnancy and raising a family veg so I can be an example of how it can be done well. Then, maybe other people will see it can be done and do it themselves! That's the plan anyway ...hope your bread is delish!

    I'm actually looking forward to having a solid excuse to stop drinking. As much as I enjoy it, I like the feeling of eating healthily and not being intoxicated but have trouble keeping to it when socialising. But I know it's socially acceptable to avoid drinking when pregnant, so I'm happy about that potential

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    Peach there needs to be a drooling icon! hehehe ENJOY!

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    hehehe hope the loaf has turned out beautlfully Peach. I use mine constantly and absolutely love it. It's the only bread I can eat without ending up with bloating and indigestion so I can't afford to not use it! Specially now I'm UTD! Let us know how it turned out.

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