Trying to Conceive after Loss or Miscarriage ~ June 08 #2

hello ladies, this is like the bizzillionth time i've tried to post this thing so here's to bizzillionth time lucky!

thanks all for your goodluck: heres some :goodluck2::bfp::pink-babydust::bluedust: sprinkled on top of all of you!

as for the symptoms: i havent felt them all day til just now... just getting the cramps now... im not that positive about them being a good sign though. ff says we have a good chance this month, but im not convinced! now the cramps seem to have gone... hmm.. but no its just in & out.. but anyways, lets see what happens... i think these cramps are af packing her bags to visit me! plus a pimple's just popped up on my chin : which is a sure sign of af for me!

bettyboop: just keep dtd til well after your forecasted o day - it might come later than expected!

jen: hope you have a blast on your camping trip! let me know if you have any funny feelings or 'symptoms'

krystielove: hmm i did have a little temp dip this morning. but maybe thats cos i havent been sleeping well. have you noticed a week after o you have trouble sleeping? kept tossing & turning past 2 nights.

where theres hope: yeah i noticed the nose stuffiness last time too, & read that somewhere that its part of pgcy. i get dizzy now when i look up to the screen & back down & move my eyeballs too much! but i guess thats normal.. i noticed ive been peeing a lot too, but i think its the weather..

hmm...

how is everyone today & is there any interesting 'symptoms' to share & compare??

wth: ive seen pg charts on ff that have flat temps after o too, i think it's 'normal', what you want is for it to stay well above the coverline for the next 9 months! - well im :pray: that it stays right up there!

Vanaithi - I still have my fingers crossed for you. I didn't notice any change in my sleep until I got to about 5 weeks pregnant, and then I got insomnia. I would have trouble falling alseep, then wake up through the night and have trouble falling asleep again. Oh, and I keep waking earlier in the morning than usual (which is odd for me because I love my morning sleep time).
Don't lose to much hope because of the cramps. When I was pregnant I had a sensation down in my uterus similar to what I feel when I am about to get AF, except I felt it the entire time I was pregnant. Apparently that's pretty normal (uterus expanding and all that...).
Fingers crossed your temp dip was implantation!

my temp did a big rise today , fingers crossed that i have 0, looks good on my chart.trying to have positive thoughts.

Hello ladies,
I am just popping in to let you know that i am lurking and keeping up with your news.
Jen, you had me ROFL with your post about signs of addictoin to BB!! Yep, I can tick lots of those boxes!:cryinglaugh:

I would like to spread lots of ***BABY DUST*** to everyone. I hope to see some more BFP's really soon.

GOOD LUCK!

pbstar...I'd love to be cycle buddies! Looks like several of us are real close! My usual cycle is 26 days...

WTH...AF hasn't been a pleasant guest this time around either...I don't normally feel her presence and barely see her...she and I are having issues this time...LOL

I hope you get that temp shift you're looking for!!!

mollycat...I'd love to send the witch packing for about 9 months...*wink* wouldn't we all...

Krystie...DVD it is for me next week! I plan to BD every day...several times...in every room...Lee won't know how to act...he'll be wondering "what did I do so I can do it again real soon"...LOL

I really wanted to be pg by July 25th...baby's due date...I actually had been dealing pretty well up to now...it's just getting so close and it seems I see very pg ladies everywhere I go.

Hey gurlies!!! Hope everyone is doing great!

*wavin* Jen!!!

:pink-babydust::bluedust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Smilanatu - i know exactly how you feel I would have loved to be pg by now too, my baby's due date was 28th June, i've been fine until the last few days when it's getting harder
Bettyboop - yay for O - hope you caught the egg - it all seems to be looking good for you
Canary - good to see you pop in

Hello to all our :bellygrowing: friends - I hope each and every one of you is getting "fatter" by the day.

:pink-babydust::bluedust: to our TTC friends -

I won't name you, cause I might miss out on somebody and I'd hate to do that.

AFM - AF seems to have left, maybe I should lock the door so she can't come back, actually she was really kind this month, the headaches weren't as bad, and she was quite light which is most unusual, i'm almost halfway through the tamoxifen and so far that it treating me well too. Feeling a little bit off, and only slight headaches instead of migraines :crossfingers: that's how it stays.

Woo hoo! First time all day I've been able to post, and it's almost 3:00 pm! :wtf: At smilanatu's request I'm going to have to add this to the addicted list, because I can't tell you how thrown off I've been all day without my BB fix! I woke up at 6 am and wasn't even able to log on, finally hours later was able to log on and read the few posts that managed to sneak through, but was unable to respond to any of them. Couldn't even see the smilies! What a horrible way to start the day! DF just got off early, he's pulling up, I'll have to post persies later. Just wanted to say Yay, I got on! Also had temp drop this am, and cramping/twinges last night on left side--praying it's implantation!!! Have been searching for spotting all day, but none so far! :crossfingers: Oh please, be implantation!! BBL

Hi Girls

While on the 2WW I have been swatting up on things that may help implantation. I will probably post this on the 2WW thread as well, but seeing as we all have the same goal, thought I might start a list of things here. BTW the sources for these ideas come from all over the shop, so you may take some with a grain of salt:

1. Take Vitamin B6
2. Eat walnuts
3. Have pinapple core - chop into pieces or make juice. Great for DH sperm, too.
4. Limit exercise - keep your body core temperature low - don't overheat
5. Avoid orgasms during days of implantation. The "vibrations" can make the fertilised egg change direction and it may prevent it's burrowing in nice and deep into the womb. BD is fine - just no "O" - lucky DH!

Some facts about implantation:

1. Window is 6-12 days, but (according to some studies) more than 80% of the time it happens at 8-10 days.
2. Implantation bleeding happens to only 20 to 30% of women
3. Two excellent links about implantation and testing are:

http://babymed.com/faq/Content.aspx?13394

http://babymed.com/faq/content.aspx?14014

I hope it is ok to put useful links on here. If they do not work when you click on them, cut and paste them into the address line on the top of your internet page

If anyone knows of anything else which may help, please feel free to add to this list.
Good luck everyone!

hello ladies!

krystielove: ive been waking up real early, thinking something (dh) is disturbing my sleep when he wasnt then finding it hard to go back to sleep again until it's nearly time to wake up. its so annoying, & is still happening. & my neck gets all stiff & sore! sorry im complaining again! :) thanks for the :crossfingers: how are you going? i think you're not far from me in this tww (am i correct?) - any signs?

jen: ooh! hope its implantation! i havent had any spotting either, but most ladies dont..

where there's hope: thanks for posting those up, im going to eat some nuts today, & vegemite... & check out those sites..

Hi girls, I decided that I'm bad at keeping up with where everyone is at win their cycles. So I've gone back through this thread and the last one and have made a list of where I "think" everyone is at at the moment... I'm hoping it's not too inaccurate. If I have got something wrong, left someone off etc, please let me know :)

Issy - CD3
Smilanatu - CD3
pbstar - CD4
Mollycat - CD5
Abbey - CD8
KrystieLove - CD10
Sandygirl - CD12
AngelBabies - CD13
Acria - CD19

Bettyboop - 2DPO?
megsmum - 5DPO?
Jen - 6DPO
WTH - 7DPO
Vanaithi - 8DPO
LizJessie - 12DPO
Jodsan - 15DPO

Jenushska - BFP
Laura - 5w6d
AJC - 8w1d
Mel A - 8w1d
mmteacher- 9w3d
Canary - 9w6d
plc - 10w4d
Katiegirl - 19w4d
Nickster - BFP 21+wks

Tina -
Toccara -

Not sure where Tina and Toccara are at in their cycles, but I hope all is well :)

Hi Ladies

Just popping in to send you all lots and lots of babydust....and to give you all a big big hug.

Couldn't log on all day yesterday which nearly drove me insane. Then went to the in-laws for dinner and was too tired by the time we got home. A bellybelly free day - very hard to do.

Won't go into too many personals atm until I have a chance to go back through the thread properly & catch up but I must say bettyboop your chart is looking great!!! Bout time you had some good luck go your way.

afm - doing ok. Am a little tense atm because it's around about now I lost my bub last time. But I feel soooo different this time - boobs are still nice and plump and my evening sickness is here most days. I find it is at it's worst around 10pm. 3 weeks tomorrow till we see bub again. Then all going well we'll be at the end of the first tri and we'll be able to finally tell our families.

Anyway - all the best, I'm always thinking about you all!!! Time for some more BFP's.....

Hi there

About to start my first IVF cycle tomorrow. So scared do not know what to expect. A lot of emotion and memories of the first 2 losses. I just hope that I can survive without another loss. I not sure if I could recover.

None of my firends have been through this...I fell alone.

AJC - All your pregnancy symptoms are sounding great! When is your next scan? It's soon isn't it? As of today you've passed my "milestone" of 8w1d so I'm breathing a nice sigh of relief for you. I know we all have our own milestones, but I think the 8w1d will always make me nervous.

Kitten - I'm so very sorry to hear about your losses. It's such a terrible thing to go through. Unfortunately we are all in this thread because we have been through something similar, so take comfort in knowing that these wonderful ladies understand how you are feeling. The ladies in here are wonderfully supportive :hug: I wish you all the luck with your first IVF cycle, and hopefully it will be your last! :D

AJC: very happy to hear from you & that all is well :crossfingers: keep dropping in to give us some baby luck! sure need a lot of that here!

kitten: sorry about your loss - you wont feel lonely here, the whole place is filled with everyone who understands what you've been through. be positive & good luck with your IVF :)

Hi All,

was hanging out in the TWW however AF arrived today :(:(

There are so many people around me falling pregnant without even really trying.

I dont really know who to talk too, my DH is trying to be supportive but is just saying we'll try again next month. Friends keep trying to reassure me it will happen with time.

It's so hard to explain to them how this feels unless you have been through it - very down at the moment. :(:(:(

Sorry this is all about me - I hope you have better luck

Easha and kittens - welcome ladies - so terribly sorry for your losses - we are all here for you.:hug:
smilanatu - oh hun i know about wanting to be pg before m/c due dates. My due dates for both m/cs had long since passed before i got pg. You just gotta believe ul get thru ur date if ur not pg and keep believing that it WILL happen for you sweet when it is meant to. Big hugs for you - lunar age buddy!!!!
krystielove - hey hun i love your list - very very clever!! Yeah I am from the west - near Sydenham. But like you i was also originally from the southeast and met my DH and moved to his house in the west. Never thought i would do that - that's what mushy love does to you! Sometimes I think I really am a southeast chick at heart but the west is certainly not as bad as i had pinned it for.

hey everyone else - hope ur all ok. sorry for the lack of rest of personals - ur all in my thoughts and prayers. went to ob yesterday hoping i could get a hb check to get me thru the next 2 weeks before the scan. ob said that he hasn't found a hb at 10 weeks to date but tried anyway. No hb but I am trying not to let it stress me. Gotta believe it will be ok.

thank you for your lovely comments. I'm not sure what the protocol is for newbies....I would just love to drop in from time to time and share and hear some stories. Most of my friends have babies by accident and those that do not are not planning or wanting to expand their families.

Each time I was pregnant coincided with a friend's pregnancy...needless to say one has a beautiful girl who just turned two and one is 10 months. These girls are so sweet and I am god mother to them both. I can't help but wonder what it might have been like if I become a mother.

The only other person I know who has experienced a loss is my sister in law but she lives in america and I do not get to correspond with her much. Her dream came true after 10 years of marriage, her little boy came very early and was with her for 2 hours before passing on, 2 weeks before mother day :(

Anyway....i'm going to take things one day at a time and not look beyond.

hugs

You know you're addicted to BB when:

1. You sign a 2-year contract and pay $60 more per month just to have wireless internet service for a 5 day camping trip! lol...

2. Your significant other walks in on you checking the position of your cervix, and actually gets turned on from it!

3. You resort to becoming an adult film industry advocate!

4. You read, post, and then refresh to read again in case you missed a post while posting!

5. You dream of being the first to post in the new thread!

6. You feel like you are wasting urine when you don't pee on a stick!

7. You see abbreviations in everyday life and try to work out what they mean in the TTC world (eg. DVD must stand for something like "Doing the vjay vjay dance"...)

8. When you get excited about choosing a new ticker....oh the choices!!!!!

9. You actually think in emoticons and abbreviations...and occasionally call your husband DH....and he says, "what the hell did you call me????".

10. And the biggest one of all....DH actually asks if it was a light or dark "BFP" (not positive test) and whether or not you used "FMU" to test!!!! (all in abbreviations...)

11. When getting a coverline makes you so happy, you feel as though you won the lottery!

12. When you look forward to going to bed just so you can wake up in the morning and add a new temp!

13. You say you are taking a break from bb and then spend 24 hours trying to do anything but log on, including cleaning, washing, ironing, shopping, all the while saying to yourself don't do it don't do it don't do it before finally breaking down and getting your bb fix...

14. You drag yourself out of bed at 6 am every morning even though you're still tired, just to have "quiet alone time" on BB while the kids are still sleeping!

15. You get the butterflies while logging on to read posts!

16. You keep your computer on all day long so you know as soon as someone has made a post!

17. You know you are addicted to BB when you go to put the date on something and you end up writing 9 DPO!

18. You're whole day is ruined just because you can't log onto BB, and you feel like you're going to go insane without your BB fix!



Looking great so far! Let me know if you think of any and I'll add them to the list! Still hoping this is ok with the mods!
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Hello my name is Rachel and I am addicted to BB.

:chair::spit::rofl:

Very very true Jen - spoken like a true bb addict!

Rach xx

Morning ladies!

plc...thanks for the much needed hug!

kittens & Easha...welcome...so very sorry for your losses...may your stay be short!

Thank goodness jen got her BB fix! I sure hope it's implantation time for you gurlie!!! :crossfingers:

Krystie...wow that is quite a list...it sure is good to know where we're all at!

AJC...bub is gonna be just fine! No worries!

:pink-babydust::bluedust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

:goodluck2: gettin' those :bfp:

Good morning girls! Updated the addicted list, let me know if anyone thinks of anything else!


WTH--How's it going with the temp shift? Thanks for the great info on implantation, it sure helps feed the mind! I had a small temp drop yesterday, then this am it actually went below the coverline. I'm just not sure how accurate it is--felt like I was going to pop around 2:15, so had to get up and use the restroom, I figured I'd still get a fairly accurate temp if I went back to sleep until 6. But I woke up at 5:30 and tossed and turned until 6 when I took my temp. Not sure now if drop was due to that or not, would rather think it's due to implantation, but I guess I'll have to see what my temp does tomorrow. :goodluck2: hope to see a nice temp drop for you!


mollycat--Sounds like you had a rough day with the kids the other day! That's all common daily behavior in my house--and my kids aren't even 2!!! So glad to hear that AF has been kind this time around, and your headaches aren't that bad. Hope the tamoxifen continues to treat you kindly, as well! Are you almost ready for your cyber camping holiday? I've heard that I'll probably have to drive around to find a spot with service-- :lol: guess I'll have to add that to the addicted list when I get back: You know you're addicted to BB when you drive around the campgrounds with your laptop open trying to find service so you can send your posts! Hopefully it will be surprisingly easy and I'll be at the one camp spot that gets service--yeah right, but I can hope can't I?


Krystie--Wow, that's a great list, must've been very time consuming! Hope you're continuing to feel better! Did you notice my temp drop? Just confused because with implantation isn't there only 1 day of decreased temp. then it goes back up? Would my last 2 temps both be considered as drops, or just the one that went below the coverline?


Vanaithi--How's those symptoms coming along? :pray: those funny feelings you were feeling are due to implantation! :crossfingers: for us both!!


bettyboop--Temps look nice! Congrats on O, and everything's double crossed for you that you caught that egg!


Canary--Thanks for popping in and checking on us! Glad you like the addicted list, let me know if you can think of any to add to it! Hope you're enjoying the PAML thread, and getting a nice, fat tummy!


Hi smilanatu! Fingers are crossed you'll get a nice BFP before July 25! Did you do anything exciting on Father's day?


AJC--A couple more days and you'll be past that milestone! Glad to hear things are progressing so well with your pg'cy!!


kittens--Welcome and big :hug: So sad to hear of your losses, but hope you find the support you're seeking here with us! Praying your TTC journey is short and sweet, and you're blessed with a sticky BFP very quickly!


Easha--Sorry again to hear about AF, she's such a witch! Good luck again for this cycle!


plc--What a bummer that they couldn't find that little :heartbeat: I'm sure all is fine--is it 11 or 12 weeks that they can normally hear it? Could you possibly request a vaginal u/s, I bet they could find it that way, it's a little invasive, but well worth it! So are you outgrowing any clothes yet, or are you one of those lucky ones that barely puts on any weight in the beginning?


Hope everyone else is happy and well! Thinking of you all always! I'll have to be on here twice as much today since I was robbed yesterday! lol.... can't believe I only posted once all day yesterday, had some serious withdrawals! Oh, had some spotting this am after BD'ing--but don't know if it's due to implantation or just simply from dtd, though it doesn't usually happen, so would like to think it's from implantation! Fingers are crossed--now I just wish this day would hurry up and be over so I can take tomorrow's temp! :rofl: I really am addicted! Will be back later...


Oh, we posted at the same time-- :welcome: rach! We're all addicts here, so you'll fit right in!

KrystieLove~ I am on the last day of AF I'm not sure just yet when I will O because I have never charted before ...

Easha~ Sorry about AF showing up just keep faith and I will keep you in my prayers that get pg soon ...

Jen~ Nice list I have not been long but I'm sure I be addicted soon just like you girls...

Issy~ I'm sorry just continue to be strong and keep trying for a baby don't give up I'm praying you get pg soon!!!

AJC~ :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesgirl:...

plc~ Hope everything is ok I keep you in my prayers ...

I don't have much hope I will get pg this cycle because DH is working nights now and I work days so we will not see much of each other but I'm still try and get some bd'ing in if I can but I don't feel like this is my cycle ... Today is my last day for AF and I'm thinking I should start charting but I'm not sure what I'm looking for ...

yay! bb is working again! sounds like i'm not the only one who was getting frustrated...

jen- hun the temp drop and spotting sound very promising...i have my fingers crossed for you! it will be good for you to be going away for 5 days to keep you busy in the TWW- are you going to take any hpt's with you or try to wait til you get back?

smilanatu- so know what you mean about the getting preg before EDD. Mine has been creeping up too (2nd August) and i have been puting so much pressure on myself to be preg before then. am sure it must be contributing to why i'm not getting preg. anyway have now come to terms with the fact that it's not going to happen and i am starting to feel ok about it. i think i will be a little bit sad that day whether i am pregnant or not.

kittens and easha- welcome and big :hug: for you both

hi to everyone else, hope you are all well

really late for work, but just wanted to say thank you to Krystie for the great list, its really hard to keep track where everyone is up to!
so im CD 7 at the moment..thanks :)

hugs to all, be back tomorrow on my day off for a nice long personals post! yay!

hello ladies

easha - sorry about af, hope she goes quickly so you can try again asap!

jen: congrats on the dip & spotting! maybe dh & i should dtd too & see if any spots come out?? im still having some cramps, but boobs & back get a bit achey sometimes but thats it. no dips or anything to show implantation :( im still having restless nights too - 4 days in a row now. getting so tired. just want a full nights sleep! dh & i are going to swap sides tonight, see if that helps. i dont think im in it this month, i dont feel anything promising..

PLC: :pray: you'll hear bub's :heartbeat: soon!:goodluck2::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Hi everyone, feels like its been forever, I couldn't get on to BB at all for a couple of days. Well I finished exams yesterday and then AF finally arrived this morning, so start of a new chapter today. Still waiting on more BT results from the dr before we can decide if we are still TTC this month or whether I should see a FS first.

Jen - fingers crossed its implantation.

Plc - I'm sure everything is ok and its just too soon to hear the hb. Hope you're good.

Easha hun, sorry about AF. Sometimes it really does feel like everyone is getting pg without trying, I'm sure your time will come really soon.

KrystieLove - thanks for the list its fantastic! I really, really like seeing all the preggie girls up there.

Big hello to everyone else. I'll check back a bit later to see what's going on.

That's it - mine is no. 18 - i've been logged off the internet all day (some computer fault) just got back on, been going stir crazy not being able to log in and check up on everyone.

Hello ladies,

Sorry I have been MIA for a few days, just trying to get myself together. I really dont have much emotion for what happened....again, so I have been doing ok. I never really thought it would turn out to be ok anyway, and never really imagined myself carrying this one or even acknowledged that I was pg. However, in saying that, I cant ignore the fact that this was my 3rd m/c of sorts and so I need to look into having some tests done. I have booked an appointment with my ob/gyn for the 24th July....earliest I could get in Im afraid, hes a very busy man! Im hoping that he will be able to recommend some tests or perhaps do another lap and dye tests to see if my tube has 'unkinked'. I have been reading up on chemical pregnancies and all information has said that whilst they are VERY common, not many people even realise they have had one and even if they do, it is rare to experience it more than twice....this is my 3rd. My m/c in Jan was at 6 weeks, but im guessing this was a chemical pg too, just because it was so early and I never had a high level of hcg. In may, I only got to 4w and 3 days, and this one was only 4w and 5 days. Very frustrating! The information said that chem pg can be caused by hormone deficiences, uterine fibriods or chromosomal abnormalities. Im thinking that it would be unlikely that I have had three eggies with abnormalities, but rather that there is something else wrong. Anyway, hopefully ob can sort something out.

So, it looks like nothing much is going to be happening for the next few months as the appointment is not for another month and Im thinking the tests will take a few months too, so I may not be actively ttc till the end of the year! Even though this will take DH and I to 3 yrs ttc, im willing to wait as I dont want another chem pg, and I have a very busy year ahead of me, so it would be nice not to have the extra pressure. Oh I dont know.....Im in two minds about everything. This ttc is very tricky business for some isnt it????

Ok, well thats it for me, im sorry for the lack of personals :redface: I havent had the chance to read through all of your posts yet, but I will. I feel a bit out of the loop ATM...sorry ladies. You have all been so supportive of me and I feel like I havent had much to give for the past few weeks...for that, I apologise :redface: But I am thinking of you all and I am :pray: for a whole lot more BFP's to be announced soon.

Issy

Hi girls thanks so much for your support which means so much!!!!!!!!!!! :hug:

Jodsan - I'm not sure that i answered a question you asked of me a while back and am too lazy to go back and check. You asked about my sil and her kidney prob. She has one kidney and very bad scarring on/in the ureter that leads to or away from that kidney and this is due to reflux in that ureter (she has had a lot of infections and problems in that area). She can conceive ok but is having and will continue to have problems carrying to term cos of the strain the pg has on her kidneys. The risk is that the kidney may become overloaded and give out and then she would run the risk of then having to go on dialysis herself not to mention the risk to the well-being of her unborn child. So she has been advised by various specialists that it is unwise that she TTC (even tho it was extremely lucky that she carried her son to term when she was 20 (she's now 40).

You would appreciate an amazing story i heard about a lady i know - not very well but we have a friend in common. She apparently has only one kidney - don't know the specifics - but she couldn't either conceive or stay pg. After many years of trying thru IVF, etc., her cousin offered to be a surrogate to her baby. Things didn't work out for this cousin to carry the bub and all seemed lost until they found another surrogate. Guess who it was? It was her own mother. Her mother carried this lady's DS when the mother was in her early 50's. After hearing that story, I wondered myself if i could ever do such a thing for my sil. It is something my DH and I would have to think about and I wouldn't mention it to my sil and brother til I was certain our family was not going to increase anymore. Anyway, thought it was a wonderful story.

jen - i hope it's implantation too!!
Thanks for you post - i did have a vaginal u/s at 6 weeks (with hb present) and will have a normal scan at 12 weeks but this was just at my ob's rooms and he doesn't have a scan - just the doppler, which is unreliable til about 16 weeks apparently. I am starting to outgrow clothes - i reckon i am the equivalent to a month later with DS cos i am 10 kilos heavier then i was with DS. I only put on 12 kilos with my first pg but i have a feeling things will be different this time around :redface:.

Hi girls. Sorry I haven't been around very much, I've been trying to kind of 'ignore' ttc this cycle. We are tryign and I'm still taking the vitamin supplements and avoiding alcohol and whatnot, but I'm not actively thinking about it. I think I just got myself so wound up last cycle, it really drained me emotionally.

Having said that, it's happening again. Different symptoms, same thinking myself into it, as always with the TWW. I'm completely constipated and gassy, it's so uncomfortable! And DH keeps saying 'maybe it's a good sign'. Maybe it is, but until then, I'm going to keep myself occupied with Sex and the City series dvds and housework. Might even ring my sister to go for a walk tomorrow...the thought is there anyway ;) Love to all.

Lisa xx

toccara--I would definitely recommend charting your cycle! When I started charting I only entered info from when we BD'd and occasional CM when I noticed it, but realized I wasn't giving enough info to accurately tell me when I O'ed. This is the first month I've taken temps, and while I was lucky enough to tell by other signs (CM and CP) when I was O'ing, I got a definitive answer when I got my coverline. Charting really helps you see what's going on with your cycle, and at least you know when you're fertile so you can BD on the days you're supposed to that gives you the best chance for conception. Then you don't have to worry about :bd: on the days that you aren't fertile, instead of dtd everyday because you're unsure, you can narrow it down to only your fertile days. Did I just say the same thing differently? :lol: I hope I didn't just confuse you! Anyhow, the charting has made me feel like I've taken a proactive approach to figuring out my body, plus it's something to do to pass the time--it's pretty fun, and I actually look forward to waking up every morning and taking my temp! :goodluck2:


pbstar--You're right, the camping will definitely help keep me busy during the second half of my TWW! But I don't think I'll be bringing any tests with me, just going to wing it and see how things progress. I currently seem to be experiencing technical difficulties with the laptop--it worked fine last night and I left it plugged in when I went to bed because it was downloading new software, and now all of a sudden it won't even turn on this am! I will FLIP OUT if it doesn't work for this trip! I could barely make it through 1 day without BB the other day when I couldn't log on, but 5 days??? Couldn't imagine missing out of 5 days of BB! :crossfingers: I get it all figured out! Hope things are well with you!


Van--Hope you're catching up on some much needed :asleep: right now! My temp went back up this am, so really hoping it was an implantation dip yesterday!! Hope your cramps are due to a growing baby!!


Jodsan--Aww, sorry about AF! When will you get your BT results? Yay on finishing your exams, hope you got a A+++!!!


mollycat--Isn't it terrible when you can't log on??? I'm going to repeat myself and say that I will FLIP OUT if I have to camp for 5 days without BB! Wish me luck with the laptop! Do you have anything exciting planned for the weekend, or will it be more work with the house?


issy--Sending a thousand :hug: your way! Did you ever have any tests done after the m/c to rule out a hormone deficiency or chromosomal abnormality? If not, then could you at least get some BT's done before you see the FS on July 24th? That's an awful long time to wait for some answers! We all understand why you've been MIA, but know we're all here for you when you need us! Take care, hun, hope things begin to look up for you!


plc--Ok, I'm confused with the whole kilo thing! How much is 12K in lbs? With my youngest DS I only gained 24 lbs., so I'm hoping when I do get pg again I won't gain more than that--although I was so bloated and gassy with the last pg. I looked like I was 6 mo's pregnant at the end of every day, I'm sure I would've gained more than that! I never experienced that with either of my boys, so when it happened last time, it was a pretty big shock to my system. Hope it's not so bad for you! So happy to hear of your :bellygrowing:


Acria--Good to hear from you--it's been a while! I understand how it is when you're trying to keep your mind off the whole TTC thing, and how draining it can all be. I'm really praying that the horrible constipation and gassiness you're experiencing is due to a sticky little bub growing inside you! That's the only answer that makes it all worth it, right? I've got everything crossed for you!



Ok, girls, I'm really hoping I'll be able to get my laptop working for this trip! If not, I'll miss you all and be thinking of you constantly! I won't have nearly as much fun without you, so fingers are crossed, and I'm praying for a miracle! Please don't forget about me if I can't!!! :(

Good Morning to everyone

Jen - hope you have a great time camping and manage to get the lap top to behave itself - it would be just horrible not to have us along with you. By the way I have my bags packed and i'm waiting for you to come and get me LOL. Seriously, not much planned this weekend, DH has to work on Sat (which happens occasionally) so not sure what I'll get up to, I still have a few things in the old kitchen to move out - it's beginning to look like a storage room - so if I can get it emptied, maybe on sunday we can start stripping walls.
By the way your chart looks so good :pray: that's implantation for you

Issy - hope your doing OK and your ob/gyn can give you some answers. Is it possible your GP can send you for any bt before that

Acira - :pray: for you that you get your BFP this cycle, it can be so frustrating month after month, some symptoms are so annoying cause they can be for either AF or pg. Enjoy your walk with your sister (yes, you actually have to do it not just think about it). At least it will give you something to do for a little while in the TWW.

AFM - tamoxifen still being good to me (almost) i've had a slight headache for the last two days - nothing like last month - and i've been out of sorts - feeling right down like nothing is going right - actually it's not - was told the other day that due to some computer fault some of my pay was not processed, then rang yesterday and told that the rest of my pay may not go in today - don't you just love working for nothing. Hoping it will all be sorted and I will get paid today. I know the money will come through, it's just When?
Time to go and wake my boys and feed the chooks and do the other million jobs I do before work each morning, I wish you all a great day and Jen have lots of fun camping with your family. I'll try and pop in later .......:pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy::bluedust:

morning girls

issy- so good to hear from you, was starting to worry about you. i am sorry to hear you are going to have to wait a while for your appointment, and possibly wait a few months after that to ttc, but if it means you don't have to have another chem preg than of course it is worth it. i know it's hard to think about not ttc though because wanting a baby is not like a tap you can just turn off. what does dh think? hope you are taking care of yourself and enjoying some of those nice little treats like choccy and sav blanc- you definitely deserve it. :hug:

jen- don't worry, no one is going to forget about you! :crossfingers: the laptop pulls through for you. also :pray: for some great news when you get back from camping.

AFM- i am off to see the acupuncturist/herbalist on monday. she is apparantly a bit of a fertility guru so i am hoping she is all she is cracked up to be. have waited over 6 weeks for this appointment, so can't believe it's finally here. and the best news of all, last night DH agreed to come with me and will even take the herbs too. i didn't even think to ask him because i assumed he wouldn't and i didn't want to argue- but last night out of nowhere he offered to come. so i am really excited but a bit apprehensive too because i don't want to pin all my hopes on a miracle.

hope everyone else is well, here's some :pink-babydust::stickyvibesgirl: for all of us

pbstar:glad to hear your finally getting to see the accupuncturist. It really is helping me feel like im taking a bit more control of this sitiuation that is completely out of my hands...i really hope you get your miracle...

jen: of course we wont forget about you, you are the lifeline for so many of us here. I know i always look forward to hearing from you. Please have lots of fun :)

issy: im sorry to hear that your journey wont be as quick as you owuld like it to be...you have had such a rollercoaster already. But as someone said before, it willl be worht it in the end when you have a healthy bub in your arms :)

jodsan: hi! hope your doing ok, my motto is, another AF means another chance to try again!

AFM, well, Af has gone for another month. DH and I decided we would go away next weekend, for "fertile time"! Were going to take a drive down the great ocean road, and stay somewhere for a couple of nights. We havent had much luck in recent months with getting to BD at the right times, last month i was away, the month before we were staying in Syd with DH's parents, and the month before my parents were visiting and sleeping in the room next door! So this time, were giving it a really good go! If were not successful this time, it means that i wont be pg for my EDD, and i dont know how i will get though it...so lots of :pray::pray::pray: and :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:

hello ladies..

jen: that temp rise is beautiful! im looking forward to your bfp when you come back from camp! :crossfingers: still having some cramps, not a lot as before though. nothing else. still not sleeping! think i have a prob with turning my mind off... im thinking too much i think thats why i cant sleep.. & i get little snippets of funny dreams in between tossing & turning..

pbstar: good luck with your accupuncture appt! update please of how it goes as i am looking to try it out next month!

issy: please go get some hormone tests done earlier! 24th july is too long to wait! :)

acria: :pray: that it is a healthy little bub growing inside thats causing you all that trouble!

jodsan: goodluck this cycle!

mollycat: hope you get your pay soon! my old work still hasnt paid me for the last week of may as well.. will call them about it soon...

everyone: :grouphug::pink-babydust::stickyvibesgirl::baby::goodluck2:

tina k: missed your post: hope you have a wonderful time :bd: on the great ocean road! a little trip away will help to relax & you'll get a BFP this time! :goodluck2:

Jen - have a great trip :) Have my fingers crossed for you! You'll have a fantastic time and it will do you good to be away, you'll feel all the better when you come back.

Mollycat - nothing worse than when thepay doesn't come through when it should. Hope it gets sorted out and your day goes well. Love the chooks..wish we had some.

pbstar - good on Dh for being so proactive about it all. Let us know how it all goes and what she has to say. Wishing you luck.

Tina - a trip away sounds like a really good idea. I know what you mean about wanting to be pg by your EDD. I wanetd that as well and didn't make it..and it was hard, but you get through it..I found it good to have a small ritual with DH, to just kind of..let go. But here's hoping you are pg by then and it won't be an issue!

vanaithi - how're you going chick?

AFM - same as always really. Constipation has eased just a little, and still trying tnot to think about it. House hunting at present, bleh. No landlords will let us have cats!

Lisa xx