Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss April 2007

Hi everyone, just a quick one for Diane - school goes back today so I can find some time to catch up with everyone later.

Diane, very sorry that you have had to join us here - too many of us have travelled the 'u/s - no heartbeat' road (me twice) so you will find lots of support here - you have come to the right place as the ladies on BB got me through some very dark days.

Do not worry about posting, this is why we are here - so you can vent, cry or anything else when you need to - and don't worry, you sound very normal to me!! - just like the rest of us - want to TTC asap but scared of everything that goes with it.

Start trying when you and DH feel ready - that's what my GP says. If you have topped bleeding, that's great, but otherwise the only reason to what for AF is for dating and a bit to give you a rest and recover nicely but you are young (much younger than me!!) - and yes, there is a lot of truth in the 'more fertile after m/c - D&C' myth as many can testify to!!

OH & I HAVE STOPPED BLEEDING 19 DAYS POST-D&C!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!

Now I just have to find out where in my flipping cycle I am - bah humbug!!!

LOve Alex
xxx

Heybacko~ I can't even tell you how much your post meant to me, I have known I have hope but after reading your post I got goosebumps, just thinking about getting pregnant again! :) I feel so blessed to have found the compassion that is here on this thread and although I hope to never go through this again I am glad to have found all of you. Even though I don't know any of you that doesn't matter at all.

Zionsmum - this place has been many peoples saviour - mine included. The information you learn in here is better than any Dr could give you & feel free to get all your feelings out as everyone here understands EXACTLY what you have been through/ are going through! All the best for this new TTC journey - I hope it happens really soon & has a very happy ending.
A big thank you to all the girls in here from me - I will be thinking of you all & spreading heaps of babydust around in this thread!!

Hi Guys,
Just popped in to say Hi, hope you had a great weekend. Cannot keep up so will have to do personals when have some more time. Had huge drop in temp this morning. Have asked questions under charting forum but feel free to have a look & see what you think I have no idea. Have had a few pg symtoms, well feels like them any way.
Will talk later
Welcome to zionsmum, sorry you have to join us

Herbie
xx

jenjams - sorry AF showed up, but then again the waiting for it is a killer, at least you know where you are at now.

missbelinda77 - sounds like the BDing was timed well. Fingers crossed for you.

Sharon - glad AF is on it's way out and you are feeling better.

Zionsmom - Welcome. Sorry for your loss. I've had great support from the ladies in here and I'm sure you will too. It does appear that many ladies are very fertile after a m/c so let's hope you are one of them. If you feel ready to try again go for it.

Heybacko - I'm so glad you've finally stopped bleeding. Good luck in working out where you are in your cycle - that will be quite difficult I imagine.

Herbie - pg symptoms are a good sign. I have my fingers & toes crossed for you.

Hi to everyone else I've missed. Nothing to report from me except AF is continuing to be extremely light after such a rude awakening on Sat morning. I had bad headaches throughout the weekend but they've gone as well. I hope everyone is doing well today.

Thank you to all for the very warm embrace and welcomes. :) I am really hoping for positive reports from many it not only makes me happy but gives me even more hope. Good luck to all and I will continue to update in here so I look forward to seeing others updates as well. have a good one.3

Hello everyone,
Jane - Congrats on setting a date for your wedding and I'm glad to hear that you got on well at the naturopath. Hopefully the suggestions he gave you plus a bit of a break from ttc will be just what you need for success!
Welcome to Lee, Maz and Diane. Sorry to hear your sad stories, especially yours Lee. I wish you all the best for the months ahead.
Herbie - it must be hard to have your due date approaching and thinking how different things might have been. Your time will come again though, I'm sure. I noticed on your signature that you had a missed m/c at 12 weeks - I had the same, it's tough isn't it.
Satya - I'm glad to hear that you don't have PCOS. It's a bummer that AF has arrived but your positive u/s results are the most important thing. On with the next cycle! Hope you had a good chinwag with your friend at the weekend.
Leyla - sorry to hear about the confusion in your cycle. I don't know anything about temping so I can't offer you any advice but it seems like lots of people's cycles are all over the place so you may not have O'd on CD10. Keep on bding if you have the energy!
Bun - what great news from your FS appointment, I'm so glad they are listening to you at last. I can understand that you are overwhelmed with all the action all of a sudden after so much inaction but go with it. I will have my fingers crossed for you. Hope the injections aren't too nasty.
Belinda - great to hear you got your bding in on time. Fingers crossed for you too!
Bekz - Roll on Tuesday...
Sharon - sorry to hear AF was so nasty. Hope she's eased off.
Alex - Glad to hear you've stopped bleeding at last. It's very frustrating when you don't know what your body is up to but nothing seems normal after a mc. Hope you get back to normal soon.
JenJams - sorry to hear AF arrived.
Las - best of luck trying naturally. You never know, losing 2 kg (well done!) and the zinc might be just what you and DH need.
Mummy to 1 - Congrats!! That is great news, especially after you have been ttc for so long. :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: Sticky vibes to you.
Sorry to anyone I've left out and on to my news. I tested again on Wed but have not been able to type this until now because it has taken a while to sink in. I got a :bfp: !!
Well, that is to say I got a darker line and at this stage it's been 6 weeks since AF. I really don't feel that I am pg so I am not that excited but as each day goes by I am feeling a bit more confident. Thanks for all the good wishes when I was testing. Talk soon.
Tonners x

OMG - Tonners, you mare!!!

You put us all to shame with a lovely, long, up-to-date post with loads of personals THEN you sneak your own 'little' piece of news in under the wire at the end!!!!!!!!

YIPPEE!!!!! Lovely, lovely news!!!

Sending you a shed loads of :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

See, now I have been side-tracked again and still haven't got anywhere with personals!!!

Love Alex
xx

WOW Tonners - Congrates on your BFP. I think we might be belly buddies!!!!! Sending stickey vibes to you.

Sharon - Gald AF is going away...Are you going to start on Vitex again? This may help settle your hormones.

Hi Everyone, hope you are all very well.

Zionsmum - Sorry for your loss. You'll find heaps of support here. Trying to conceive again is different for everyone. Some people hop straight back into it asap and others hang for a while. Either way as long as you and DH feel up to it again then there is no reason not to ttc. TTC can bring up all sorts of emotions and you might find even the thought of ttc may bring back sad memories. Unfortunately now that you have experienced a mc your next pregnancy may be more nerve racking and the innocense (sp?) has been taken away. I certainly was not thinking of TTC again after my last mc but it turns out that we did conceive (first cycle post d and c) and now I am in the terrrible 13 wk wait. My worst fear is that I will start spotting again or worse still I will have an u/s and there will be no heart beat, but in saying that I am trying to be as positive as possible this time round and I will deal with things as they come. Sorry to crap on and I wish you all the best.

Bekz thank you I think we will be up to ttc sooner than later and I never thought about it but your right ttc again will bring back memories of when we were trying this last time. I will probably be thinking about how I should be pregnant right now, I should be 12.5 weeks or so :( You really took the words right out of my mouth! The innocence has been ruined, because even though i long for the day of another BFP I know when I do see it my heart will sink with fear and then when I see the DR. I know I will have butterflies in my stomache and when they do the Ultrasound I will close my eyes and refuse to look at the screen until I know its going to be a positive response. However I am also aware that living in fear is no good.

But congrats to you on expecting! Also congrats to Tonners So exciting :dance:

thank you salt for including me in your personals and I am terribly sorry for your friends friend my heart breaks for her. I can't imagine that I pray that God will comfort their family during this time of immense pain.

Hi Girls,

Zionsmom...welcome, and you are in my prayers for a BFP...xxx

Tonners - YAY..Congratulations sweetie. Wishing you a very H&H pregnancy,

Hope - HELLO there. Thanks for thinking about me hun. I've been wondering how you've been lately too, but by the looks of your ticker, you're streaming along. Thanks for the offer of the warmed up seat, but unfortunately i won't be joining you in there before you're gone. We're not TTC at the moment. I'm working on myself for a while and losing weight which will help out in the long run (13.8kg so far in 7 weeks, so it's going really well). We probably won't start TTC again until maybe March or April next year, but we're okay with that and i have the hugest weight lifted of my shoulders since making that decision. You'll have your little bubba in no time now. Luv ya matey...xxx

Hi to everyone else, and i want to see LOTS of BFP's coming out of this thread...xxxx

Afternoon!!

Jenjams - Definately a 2008 bubba!! Hoping this next cycle is the one!

leyla - I'll have to get DH on the Vit C as well then!! Anything to improve him just a tad!! We are both ex smokers (nearly 3 years) and drink minimal, so we'll see!

janeo - VERY excited about your wedding plans for this year now!!! Look forward to hearing all about the preparations! My SIL is getting married 1st December, beautiful time of year for a wedding!

Belinda - hope the last few days have been a little better! Grrrr at getting a +ve O when DH is at work! Everything crossed that this is your month!! Sounds like you had all your days covered!

Sharon - I hate crappy AF's :( It turns us into horrible people and our poor DH's suffer (though I did giggle because you sound a lot like me!). I've taken to do a kickboxing workout when I'm getting mega grumpy, DH loves it because he 'feels safe'..LOL!

Diane - welcome and I'm so sorry for you loss :( The support here is wonderful and I hope you get a lovely BFP when you are ready to start again.

Heybacko - YAY!!! So glad the bleeding has finally stopped! You must be relieved that you can start moving forward again!

mummyto1 - I can't remember if I congratulated you so just in case - CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Herbie - Everything crossed for you!!! When are you due to test??

Tonners - OMG!! Congratulations!! Fabulous news!! Wishing you a healthy and sticky 8 months!!!

Salt - I hope the antibiotics are the end to your troubles. I'm so sorry to hear about that poor little baby too, so devastating for the parents. Hugs to them.

No news from me! I haven't been charting, have just decided to start using OPK's around day 12 (which coincides with my FS appointment, so will speak to him about it), and we'll see what happens!

Hi to everyone else :)

Hi girls,

Well, I have sooo much to catch up on - it has been v busy in here!

SP - great to hear from you - I was starting to wonder where you were! Good luck for the appointment on Thurs, I hope it all goes well. That is a good idea to get the drug but only take it after AF arrives, and then you will be well on your way to a bub!! I'm glad that your cycle seems to be back to normal. So sorry to hear about your friend's baby - that is awful. It does make you wonder sometimes why such awful things happen. Pregnyl is a drug that can be taken to make you O, or, as in my case, taken after O to support the lining and keep it nice and healthy so a bub has time to implant. It is essentially pg hormone that boosts your progesterone, and it means I can't do an HPT, as it will come up positive due to the injections, so the clinic will get me to do a BT in a couple of weeks and will then tell me if I am pg. It's all so confusing!

jane - yay on setting a wedding date! That's great and you are going to be one v busy girl!!

bek - good luck for your scan tomorrow - I am sure all will go well :D

belinda - yay on O'ing and getting the timing right! Best of luck this cycle - if it works out for both of us this month, we will be due on the same day!!

Shan - how are you going?

Hope - thanks for popping in and sending us some babydust! I have been checking up on you too and am amazed at how fast your pg is going!

Sharon - sorry AF has been so horrid, I am glad she is on her way out now. I had a long scrapbooking night on Sat too, only just gotten into it and I love it! Re the eyes - I am -5 in one eye and -5.5 in the other, so I am pretty blind too! And the supposedly 'breathing' contacts still don't work on my eyes!

Diane - welcome and sorry to hear about your loss. It is a really difficult thing to go through and I hope we can help you through this time .

Alex - so glad you have stopped bleeding finally - yay!!

Tonners & mummyto1 - congrats!!! :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

las - thanks for your comments re the injections. It really is so overwhelming, but now that I have had time to get my head around everything and have had my first injection, it really isn't that bad. I'm glad you don't have long til your FS appointment.

satya - thanks for the info re pregnyl. Now that I have had a chance to research it, it looks like it probably is a good one for me to be on, as I don't really need clomid (and by the sounds of it, could do without the nasty side effects!). Sorry you have had such a nasty AF, I'm glad you are feeling better now. Not long now til your appointment.

Hi to everyone else.

Well, I had to get another BT on Sat, and the clinic phoned later that day and said I was about to O and to have my first injection, and 'have intercourse', on Sat, Sun and Mon. I am pretty sure I O'ed on Sat, so we have been busy over the weekend lol!! The injection really wasn't that bad, it just seems like such a big deal having to mix the ampoules together and do it ourselves, but DH was pretty cool about it. Everytime I nag him about something he goes 'when do I get to jab you next?' with a wicked grin on his face! Evil man!! So I guess all we can do now is wait. Apparently I will get in the mail a couple of BT forms to get done over the next couple of weeks, and if it doesn't work, then we are on to clomid next cycle. I am still afraid I will m/c again, but I suppose I feel a bit more hopeful now than I did before.

I cant catch up...ive got all kids home at the moment, Nikolaus has Toncilities, Wilhelm caught nits from kinder (Im scratching my head ahhhh) and Vy just wants mummy 24/7.
AF still hasnt arrived so I did a HP test again and another BFN. How long can it take before AF arrives after a m/s. I normal regain a normal cycle after a m/c but im thinking it might be different this time due to m/cing twins? Can any one help. I m/c on the 16th of March so Im over a week late (2 weeks late on friday coming).......trying VERY HARD not to get my hopes up.
Huge hugs to those having horrible AF's this cycle. A even huger hugs to those who have gotten BFP's.
Im gong to endevour to keep up and know everyone in here.
thanks for all the warm welcomes chickies
xxmaz

YAY CONGRATS TONNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks everyone.. We have a 13 week old girl at work at the moment soooooo want a bubba but wedding is neally as good.... I have booked the reception, photographer, marquee for reception and chairs for the ceremony in the gardens in town... Think i have found the girls bridesmaid dresses and i found a few that i like.. Going looking on 19th May at a few places.... Fingers crossed i find the right one....

Trying to keep up, trying to keep up!!!! Thank god I haven't got rice or pasta on the stove!!!

Bun - great news that the injecting is not that bad! 'Have intercourse' - what's that about then??? Is it the same as BDing :p Sounds like you and DH are both really relaxed and being pretty chilled through this injection marlarky- that's really good vibes I reckon!!!!!

Las - know where you are coming from ditching temping!! Was never quite sure whether I was cr*p or I could blame it on the thermometre!! Just all over the place and relied on OPKs, pretty good for me!

Maz - you have got me scratching you mare!!! BTDT, thought I had a year off before kindy!!! If it is any help (not) I have had a DAY OFF and now I am spotting a tad - FFS!!! I feel a bulk purchase of OPK coming on!!!

Jane - have you posted 'the one ring' yet?? Oh, I love wedding and would quite happily divorce DH (of coming up 17 years!) to 'do' the dress, the hair, the flowers, etc all over again - maybe a tad OTT but SO exciting!!!

Salt - Thurs sounds really promising, doesn't it!! LOL on your rating of 'good' for intercourse - bet your DH would score you otherwise!!!! (Big hug sent to those poor, poor parents - how can s**t like this happen - SO unfair)

Sharon - I am married to an Optician (OPSM) and would LOVE corrective surgery - he is a little more cautious! Bugs me about how long I wear lenses, how well I clean them, etc. I am -4.50 and -4.25 and had a pretty hairy time convberting my UK driving licence to a NZ one - nearly failed the eyesight test with my sodding Optician standing next to me!!!!!

Shan - OMG on the weight loss, that is SOME progress, you must be so proud!

Belinda - fingers crossed for you, looks good timing wise doesn;t it!!!

BekZ - Tuesday tomorrow, will be thinking of you xxx

Jenjams - I am with you for a 2008 bubs (there will be SO many of us, ooooh the cost in congratulations cards!!! I will start saving now!!)

Leyla - congrats on you & DH quitting, that can't have been easy - my best friend just quit after 25 years (yep, we ARE that old!!!) and she hasn't looked back. Way to go you!!!

Tonners - said it once, say it again - WELL DONE YOU MARE!!!!

Flower - you've been a bit quiet, are you okay????

Big hugs to those I have missed, so sorry, such a busy thread :(
Will be emptying real quick :pray:

Love Alex
xxx

Hello to you all, farout I have no idea where to start in here.
Satya-Glad to hear AF is strating to pack -up ready to go, best of luck this time for you
mummyto1 & Tonners-Congrats on the great news lots of :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: to both of you
Bekz-I am sure everything is fine and best of luck for tomorrow, keep us posted on your progress
saltprincess-That is so sad about your frinds friend, it really makes you wonder sometimes hey, why is life so cruel. Glad that all is going ok with you though & that you had a really busy weekend LOL, everything crossed for you.
Shan-As you can see we are all trying hard for the BFP, lol. Well done on your weight loss you are doing a great job, keep it up. I know it can be a struggle sometimes but keep going it will pay off soon
las-How are you going with your OPK's? Can you please tell me what FS stands for, sorry to be so dopey.
Bun-Try not too stress too much over the m/c, although I know how you feel, that can sometimes make things worse. I am glad all is going better for you though & you are more confident. Don't forget to let us know how you go with your BT
Janeo-You sound like you have been very busy, nice to hear you are getting yourself organised & all is going to plan for you, best of luck with it & I am sure you will find the perfect dress. I was lucky enough to be able to wear my mums wedding dress which was 36 yrs old at the time. Had a few alterations done to it & it was beautiful.
maz-Sounds like you are currently nearly run off your feet, I am scratching my head with you LOL

Well I have had some spotting today & AF cramps, I would say she is nearly here, due on wed/ thurs. It is 10yrs today since my mum died & it feels like only yesterday, so knowing AF is on her way is just a real pain in the A@#$ but what can you do, not much. I thought now would be a great time for a BFP however did test this morning, as I could no longer wait naughty naughty, & you guessed it :bfn: What a s@#t of a day. Had a huge temp drop this morning. At least I can try again next month I spose, sorry for being so down in the dumps but I am well & truly over today. Wish now af would hurry up so she can rack-off.
Thanks for the ears and listening to my rubbish, talk tomorrow

Herbie
xxxx

Hi everyone,

Tonners - congrats on the :bfp:. Sending you loads of :stickyvibesgirl:

Saltprincess - that's so sad about that baby - life really does seem harsh when you hear about such stories.

Maz - Well my AF arrived right on time - 4 weeks after my m/c. I have read it can happen any time from two to ten weeks after m/c. It seems most women on here have had it by 6 weeks though.

Herbie - You must really miss your mum. I'm so sorry the anniversary of her death did not bring good news for you. I know that there will be good news coming along soon for you though.... it's just a matter of time.

Hi to everyone else. There's way too many of us in here. Come on, how about some more BFP's so we can start emptying out

Herbie - you are not dopey! FS is Fertility Specialist :) ( Took me ages to work out all the shortcuts). I'm so sorry AF is coming...grrr!

Satya - I agree! Definately need a rush of BFP's in here :)

Tonners- congrats on the BFP!!
Herbie - what a rough day - hope next cycle is THE one for you!
Bun - all sounds very promising - hope this cycle is it for you. Hope you had fun intercoursing he he
Shan - that weight loss is amazing - you must be feeling sooooo good. All the best to you!!
Best of luck to all you ladies, good things come to those who wait so hang in there....

zionsmum I am sorry to hear about your loss, so many of us go for a scan or our first ob appt to be told the same thing, I thought I was 11 weeks at my 1st ob visit and he always does a quick scan on the machine in his room, as soon as he said he was going to need to do an internal u/s I knew there something wrong, and I was right, my baby had died at 7 weeks, straight after my D&C the following day all I wanted was to be pg again. Hope that your stay in here is short and sweet.
heybacko congrats on the bleeding stopping, hope it doesn't take too long for you to figure out where you are in your cycle. I can understand your DH feeling cautious about the surgery, it took me a few years before I decided on going ahead with the laser surger, and was glad they no longer used the scalpel to create the flap, but another laser instead, I was VERY anxious but the 1 valium helped heaps, I told the lovely male assistant that he was my new best friend LOL
herbie it sounds promising for you, as for your chart (read your other post) and it could be implantation, especially since you had spotting, and temp had a huge jump this morning as well, don't really know about the temping time though :crossfingers: it must be really hard not having your mum around :hugs:
Tonners a huge congratulations on your BFP that is great news, have you had any blood tests yet.
bekz yeah, think I will start my vitex again tomorrow, and will also start my grapefruit juice again (usually put the vitex in a mouthful of juice anyway as it is so disgusting) good luck with your u/s today (it is today isn't it?) what time is it? Please let us know how it went.
saltprincess I was actually thinking the same thing myself about my AF as I haven't had what I would consider to be 'normal' AF for years, so hopefully it is a good sign. Yay on the being 7 dpo but also very sad about your friend of a friends baby, that is just so heartbreaking. I find it hard to catch up on posts and do personals if I miss a few days too.
Shan WAY TO GO on losing nearly 14kg in 7 weeks that is amazing, you should be so very proud of yourself.
*las* I was such a cow, but when I think about it now it does make me laugh. LOL at your dh feeling safe when you do your kickboxing workout.
bun I really really really hope that you managed to catch that eggie the other day and that it is the stickiest of babies, so let's hope all the injections help. Also I don't think the so called 'breathable' contacts would work on me either.
maz I have heard that some women take a while to get their AF after a D&C so maybe that is just what is happening with you, the waiting still sucks big time though.
janeo definitely sounds like you are keeping yourself busy with your wedding plans
satya my 1st AF after D&C was exactly when I would have expected it also, it's nice when that happens as you feel that your body is doing something right for once.

I can't believe how long it has taken me to catch up on all the posts, and it had only been a day, there must be too many women in here and we need a surge of BFP's. I received my LC package yesterday and I will start opk'ing on Sat, would normally leave it for another week, but since my AF was so abnormal for me (normal for most though) I think that I may O early and in that case I don't want to miss it, I have enough opk's to keep me going right up till my normal O day though.

Will try to be back later, sorry to anyone that I have missed, hope everyone has a great day.

thank you girls for all your advise regarding cycle after m/c...only problem is I didnt need a DMC as I had a (god I hate this term) 'a complete abortion' and im really fuzzed out by it all

Sharon thank you for your kind words, I hope my stay here is short as well as everyone elses. Although my boss sort of politily requested if there was any way I could not have a baby between Christmas and the first of January. I work in a jewelry store so I can understand but now I feel a little bit of pressure to be careful. :( I guess a month or so of waiting isn't terrible it might be good for me. I hope everyone had a great Monday!

Hi girls,

Well, I am now 3DPO and nothing to report, although the injections I am on have side-effects that are like pg symptoms, so if I am starting to feel pg in a week or so, it could just be the drugs! The next injection is tomorrow. I am trying to distract myself with other things, which is easy, as I am going to Spain!! Yay! And also either London or Paris - not sure which and I need to decide by Thurs to get a decently priced ticket. Hmmmm... which one? I am also getting back into a lot of old hobbies and that is keeping my mind full of other things too. Sometimes I just see pregnancy as the most stressful thing that I wonder why on earth I would even want to put myself through it again? Of course I want a family, but I am just so over this process.

Salt - yes, it is going to be a very stressful wait for the clinic to phone and tell me if I am pg or not. I am half expecting that although we have conceived so easily every other cycle, this one it won't happen and all the injections will be for nothing! Only 4 more to go, I think I have to have them at 3 day intervals for the next week and a half. Not long til your OB appointment now.

maz - I haven't had a D & C, and I got AF after 6 1/2 weeks after my first m/c, and 5 1/2 weeks after my second m/c. The second pg was shorter than the first, so I thought maybe that was why it took less time for AF to come back. I was told that generally AF should come about 4-6 weeks later.

mummyto1 - make sure you keep checking in with us so we know how you are doing!

Satya - it's good that AF has arrived - now you can move on to a fresh cycle.

Herbie - so sorry to hear about your BFN and that AF is on her way, esp today. You must really miss your mum, especially at times like this. :hug:

Alex - yeah, it is wierd hearing the term 'intercourse' - it makes me laugh! Esp when someone is telling us when to do it - I really don't like that, but I suppose right now it can't be helped.

Hi to everyone else.

I agree with everyone else - there are way too many people in here and it is time for a cleanout!!

Hi everyone

Just a few quickies as I want to jump in the bath whilst DH is running the eldest to Sea Scouts and has taken the rest of the brood!! Ooooh, pecae and quiet!!

Bun - things sound so good for you!! Spain is lovely - although France is my absolute fave. As a (ex)Pom, people ask me what I miss about the UK and I say France!!! Ditch smelly, over-crowded, uptight London and do Paris - SO much better people, shops, food, wine and SO very romantic (corny but true!)

Maz - I had a D&C 3 weeks ago today (14 weeks pg) and am STILL being messed about with spotting and the odd cramp. Think I will have to 'go bulk' on the OPKs to get a drop on where my cycle is - I haven't a clue! Bun's right though, I was told 4-6 weeks too.

Salt - thinking of you waiting for your Obs appt. I am SO dire at waiting for anything so sending you patient and calm vibes!!

Satya - sorry to old Witch is here but it's the beginning of a plan! Wish I knew where she was too!

Herbie - big love being sent to you at the difficult time xx

Hi to everyone I have missed but if I don't go now, they will be back and my 'me time' will evaporate before my eyes!!

Hi Heybacko and everyone....

Thanks for the suggestion re. Group B Strep - I called the Coroner/Pathologist - as we are awaiting our final autopsy report, which will reveal any blood & tissue problems. They will be finished the final report next week - but could tell me now that Group B Strep was tested for and came back negative.

We may never get an answer as to why our little boy died, I'm preparing myself for that.

Meantime, I'm just trying to move forward, and not obsess about being pregnant again!! It's been 7 weeks since our baby died, seems like forever. It'll take time most likely to get pregnant again, and I try to keep busy and fulfilled in the meantime - so hard to be happy sometimes when I remember all that my little boy has missed out on.

I'll let all know if the final autopsy report has any major revalations - I truly hope so.

Good luck this week ladies with TTC, I really am sending positive vibes to all of you.

Regards,

Lee

Hi everyone,

Maz - I didn't have a D&C either and my AF came right on 4 weeks after the m/c.

Zionsmum - Don't worry too much about your boss' request. You could get pregnant a month or two later and then give birth prematurely & it would still fall within the busy time (let's hope not though, better to have a full term bub).

Bun - lucky you going to Spain. I haven't been but it looks like a great place to visit. That's a really hard choice between London & Paris as both are great cities to visit, but I think if I had the choice I'd go to London. Heaps to see and do in both places but I found the Parisians to be rude & it's the only place that I've travelled to and had a guy grab my boobs right there in the street in broad daylight..... so I guess I'm a little biased because of that. Whatever you choose I'm sure you will have a great time.

:)

Nothing to report from me except that my AF is well and truly gone. I'm surprised by this as I thought it would be nastier and longer than it was... only 3 days.... I'm not complaining though. I just wish the rest of the week would fly by, I want to know what my u/s results were.

Hi Guys,

Just a quick selfish post today.

Had my scan and I am 7wks, the heartbeat was 144 which is strong so I am told. My estimated due date is 12 Dec.

I want to thank each and everyone of you ladies in this thread for your support. I think it is time for me to move on (but I will drop in of course), probably tomorrow. My wish is for everyone here to get a stickey BFP very very soon.

:dance: :dance: Congratulations to Mummyto1 and Tonners that is brilliant news xxx

Shan - you go girl .... congrats on the weight loss you are doing really really well.. think of you often hun xxx

zionsmom - Sorry to hear of your loss sweetie.. the girls in here are just fantastic ... we are always here for you anytime of the day or night.... and allow yourself to cry, get really p*ssed off, angry or yell... hope you don't have to stay in this thread too long xxx

Hi girls I hope that you don't mind me popping in but I think of you all often and lurk around to see how everyone is going........ so I would like to send you all lots and lots and lots of:bluedust:

mwahh xxx Kez

Yay bekz glad that the u/s went well, please make sure you do keep popping in every so often just to let us know how you are going.

Great news Bekz. Keep in touch.

I have not written for 2 days and wow I have missed so much.

Everyone get out of this thread will ya?!

I am CD 4 and are going to feel positive for this month. I am over my feeling sorry for myself phase of a week or so back.

Good luck to all this month.

Will write personals next time....

Jen

Hi everyone

Unfortunately i need to join this thread now, in the past month we have gone from LTTTC, to PALLTC, to TTCAM.... get your head around all those acronyms...

Basically we are a same-sex couple, having IUI/IVF since April last year, first I tried to conceive, but then handed over to my partner Kim after 3 failed IUI's and 3 failed IVF cycles. Through all the IVF cycles i only made 2 embryo's and had both transfered with no luck. The most eggs i made were 8 and that was the cycle i got the 2 embryos...

Kim on the other hand fell pregnant quite quickly...although when she was what we thought was 8 weeks, we went to have a repeat U/S due to a Subchorionic Hematoma diagnosed at 6 weeks, to find our little one without a heartbeat. She had a D&C the same day. That was last Thursday... we are waiting for the results of the tests from the D&C before we go back for an appt with our doctor to work out a plan, so Kim can try again.

During one of the cycles of IVF, Kim went through stimulation to become my egg donor, as i was thought to have an egg quality issue... Unfortunately she ovulated before egg pickup and they only managed to get 3 eggs from 3 follicles, when there were at least 7 on the U/S days earlier.. Only 2 fertilised and they were both triploid (3 nucleus).

So now we wait for the results of the D&C to see if this was the case with this pregnancy, so kim may or may not need testing for a balanced translocation in her chromosomes, which can only be treated by having IVF with Pre-genetic Diagnosis on the embryos.

So we have had a year long battle so far, with no way of trying for a natural miracle... hopefully Kim's tests will come out OK and we can try again soon.

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

Hi all!
What a beautiful Anzac Day it's turned out to be!

Bun - Glad you managed the injections ok! Sounds like you definately did have a busy weekend! Hope this is your month!! Your DH is very cheeky! Your trip sounds amazing!!!! Go to Paris! I've always wanted to go there, so you can go for me!!!

Maz - hope your kids are all on the mend now?? Sadly, your m/c was a day after mine :( But I already got AF back late last week and it's now finished. Hope it turns up for you soon.

janeo - how exciting!! I can understand you wanting both, but enjoy the wedding process in the mean time! It's so much fun!

Lee - again, hugs to you and hope you get some answers soon.

Bekz - fantastic results!!!! Hope it helps you to relax a bit now, enjoy every minute of this wonderful pregnancy! Look forward to hearing how you go!

Megan - so sorry for you loss :( But you've come to the right place for the most wonderful support! Hope you and Kim have a little easier ride now!

Hi to everyone else :)

Hiya Megan....i'm so sorry to see you in here. I know how excited it was for Kim to get that BFP after so long and such a hard road, and now you have to endure this as well. The girls in here are fantastic and the support is overwhelming. I shed a few tears when i read that you guys lost your precious little bubba. Big hugs to both you and Kim hun, and i'm praying that things will happen for you....xxxxxxx

Just a very quickie, hope everyone had a great ANZAC Day!

(Okay okay, glitch in the master plan - so the Blackcaps are out of the World Cup - go the Baggy Greens)( - oooh sorry but Ricky Ponting just makes me cringe!!!!)9

Just wanted to say welcome to Megan and Kim - I'm so very sorry you have to join us but :hug:, you are in the right place xx

BekZ - bets of luck as you 'cross over', keep us posted!!

Bun - trust me, I've lived and worked in London for 5 years, I wouldn't set foot in the place EVER again (TMI but see below for example!!!) - I've also lived in Paris (practising European Law FFS!!!) - no contest!!

Satya - if only it was my boob - I had a 'gentlemen' relieve himself of his swimmers across the isle from me on the tube once - OK so it was 10 years ago but urrrgggghhh!!!
(although I used to have the most amusing tube driver who used to say things like 'please stand clear of the doors - for those of you who don't understand, they are the big slidey things on the side of the train'!! - he was quite cool but rare!!!)

Jenjams - you sound on the up, well done you! Although you didn't feel sorry for yourself, that sounds so harsh on yourself - you went through what you had to go through - a bit of a difference xx

Big hugs to everyone else, catch you later, time to bath the littlies

Hi Ya Megan, im new to the thread aswell and I find that the girls in here are fantastic. I really dont know what I would have done without them at the moment. I hope you stick around so we can share the day that you and Kim become the parents you deserve to be.
Lisa - thanks for the well wishes for my munchkins. Their getting better, I think im the one that needs a holiday now ;) .
Shan - are you still dieting??? How much have you lsot so far again? (I have gained SO much)
Satya - WOW - that was fast. I hope that this month is the month for you (feb babies are great)
Salt - What the? How weird. I hope that its all cleared up.
Hello everyone else - im really trying to keep up.
Still no AF for me but have slight AF pains and heaps of white M's???? Dont know whats going on but I cant wait to get back on track and knuckle down (poor Jed's gonna cope it!!) I absolutely hate not knowing whats going on (yes control freak here PMSL)
Hope you guys all have a great night and make the springs in your mattress's squeeck
xxmaz

Hi Girls,

Just a quick note to let you know AF has arrived this evening, nasty old B---h. I hope she goes away real soon so we can get back into bding & lots of it. I was so hoping for a BFP this month but any way next month although I feel like it is always next month. I feel like S--t now I was really hoping she was not coming although I did have my doubts. Oh well can't help it I spose. DH not real impressed either but he will get over it.
Anyway going to bed now, sorry for my selfish whinging post. Talk to you guys later

Welcome to the new girls, lots of support in here hopeyou soon feel a little better.

Herbie
xx

Hi girls,

Salt - sorry to hear about the bleeding - how confusing! All I can think of is that it is to do with your body trying to get rid of the clot, which is a good thing! I know that it is possible to once every now and then have a weird short LP, but it should go back to normal the next cycle. At least your OB appointment is today, so it is good timing in a way - I hope he has some answers for you. Let us know how you go.

Herbie - sorry for AF arriving. Doesn't she know we don't want her here??

Megan - so sorry to hear of your loss, especially after such a long journey. I hope the results to the tests they are doing turn out ok and that you and your partner can start trying again soon! In the meantime, I hope we can be a good support to you both :hug:

Heybacko & Satya - are you trying to put me off travelling?! I had a pretty gross experience in Amsterdam once, too. We are still thinking about where to go, but need to book today or tomorrow...

Bekz - I am soooo glad to hear that your scan went well. It will be smooth sailing from here! Let us know how you are going.

Jen - I am glad you are feeling positive this month! Maybe this will be it!

I had to have my next injection yesterday and it bloody hurt! DH thinks he may have hit a nerve or something - OWWWW! The next one is Sat, so hopefully it won't be as bad!!

Hi everyone,

Well still nothing exciting happening here. I'm 9 DPO now and had a temp drop of 0.1 this morning (my LP is normally 10 days), so I'm not feeling particularly positive about being PG, but who knows. Maybe if my temp goes back up tomorrow? Although I'll know almost certainly if it goes down tomorrow that we've had no luck this month. I'm trying to wait to do a HPT for a couple more days if AF doesn't arrive in the meantime - I think Saturday will be the day if she does arrive. Oh well... I guess there's always next month

saltprincess - that's good news about the bleeding - never thought I'd say that LOL I hope your clot is gone this time!

Bun - I know what you mean about the injections! I'm diabetic on insulin and most of the time they don't hurt. I'm sure that sometimes though I hit a nerve because it really kills somethimes (and in particular parts of my tummy) OOOOWWWW But good luck with it all - at least its for a good cause! Oh and I don't know if it makes a difference, but I'd go to Paris too LOL I've been to London (once) and Paris (twice) and I love Paris - I'd go back there in a shot. And the first time I went to Paris I went there thinking I would hate it! London was only so so. Love the food in Paris too - much better than London

Herbie - sorry about AF :( Hopefully she will go away soon and next month will be IT!

maz - I hate that too when you've got no idea what's happening, I feel a bit the same ATM. Oh and I just noticed your location - cloth nappy heaven - I'm a "clothie" too :) Although my DD is toilet training ATM so we only use them at night and for naps, so no more nappies for me until we have another one :)

Megan - I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope everything goes well for you and you can start trying again soon.

Lee - I'm sorry for your loss too :( I hope you do get some answers

Diane - sorry for you loss, I'm quite new here too and have found the ladies here fantastic - it has really helped being here! Good luck for when you do decide to TTC

Hi to everyone I've missed and all the best for TTC :)