Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss June 2007

Hello everyone!
sorry I didn't respond earlier after I had done the Hpt and got a faint positive. It all went pair shaped so I was a bit down and didn't know what to say. I got af so not sure what happened really? I had three positives (faint but visable) on Lullaby 10ml so I guess it was really early and at that stage it really can go either way. I felt bad as I told my husband that I was pregnant and then got af! So back to TTC and after reading all the BFP's this month WOW! Cograts bun! I am so excited for you! I know it is hard not to stress but you are so blessed right now and have a precious baby growing inside you!

Sharon: Have you had the app. at the ob or was it a fs yet? Just wondering how it all went for you?

Kiwigirl: Try and hold out on testing if you can cause after what I have just been through I will definatley be waiting!

So hopefully this will be another month of lost of BFP's fingers crossed for everyone trying!

Bun everything will be alright relax and try not to be stressed out go with the flow God will do the rest.To everyone God knows our desires have faith and patience it will happen sending lot of :bluedust:and :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: to everyone that is :ttc:.
Jan 3,2007 twenty weeks.
:angel2: baby boy that I will never forget and love so much.

Sorry I only pop in once in a blue moon but I really battle to load this web site as my internet plays up all the time.

Congrats for all the new BFPs this is just great news, lets hope for a stick, non-eventful 7-9 months for everyone!

Sorry for all those who have got BFN's, as a friend says look at it as being one step closer to that much desired BFP!! Good luck for the next cycle.

All those testing - GOOD LUCK - hope the bding leads to BFP's!

I found out myself last Sunday that I am pregnant myself, which is great news. But now the new journey begins! So far I am just so exciting and enjoying it, although the nausea is less than pleasant! But I will not complain about any symptom that this babe throws at me.

Good lukc to everyone, and I'll try and log on a little more often - internet allowing!

Love, hugs and babydust to you all.
Sarah

Kiwigirl - I have never charted with FF, as only been ttc the last 2 cycles. My full term baby died in early March :cry:

I have not done another HPT - as don't want to see the bfn! I'm really not having any symptoms - I did have sore bbs last week, but they seem to have subsided. A few little niggles in the uterine area, but nothing to speak of. I'm just waiting for AF to show up, but don't have the usual pre-menstrual symptoms I would normally. Waiting is a pain, not sure when I should test again!!

I think I'll try to hold of till 16dpo - 2 days time. If it's a bfn then, I think I can safely assume AF is just much later than usual.

How are you going??? Hanging in there??

Love to all.

Lee xoxo

Hi everyone,

First of all, I missed saying congratulations to pash and Claire in my last post because I did it really quickly and didn't get time to read back through the last thread. So congratulations ladies!!

Sarah - congratulations and all the best to you too!

Lee - I know what you mean about not wanting to see a BFN. I'm planning on holding out this month, and I managed to last month as well :) It's just too disappointing when it is neg early on and you then just have to wait for AF to arrive.

cherie26 - what a bummer :( Good luck for this month though

kiwigirl - good luck for testing on Thursday!

Bun - I don't really know what to say to you because I know that anything I say won't make you worry any less! But hang in there and try not to stress too much - everything WILL be OK!! It has to be!

pash - I wouldn't worry too much about not having sore boobies - I never had them at all when I was pregnant with Megan. Until the MS appeared at 6 and a half weeks, the only symptom I had was needing to pee all the time and of course no AF!

Trying to be Positive - I started taking Vitex this cycle, and also went to see a homeopath who gave me a medicine that has Vitex and a whole lot of other things in it. Anyway, I normally O on day 14 of a 24 day cycle, and this month I Oed on day 10 according to FF (but personally I think it happened on day 11). And after getting neg results on my OPKs for the last 3 months, I finally got a positive this month. So I'm pretty convinced its making a difference.

satya - I'm so sorry AF arrived :( I hope that the gyno can give you some answers and that you can get a plan in place really soon.

Zennie - welcome and I'm so sorry to read your story :( I found this place really helpful, especially in the first month, the ladies here are really supportive. I also went to see a gyno soon after, and I found that really helped me because he gave me some reassurance that it wouldn't happen again. Of course he can't guarantee it, but I found the reassurance helped me personally anyway. All the best and I hope you start to feel better about everything soon.

Well I'm 7DPO today (although FF thinks I Oed a day earlier than I think I did), so right in the middle of the TWW. I'm planning on hanging out to test for at least another week yet, so a bit more waiting to be done still - though at least it seems to be going a bit faster this month than it has the last few! We were affected by the wild storms here in Newcastle over the weekend, so that kinda took my mind off it the last few days!

We went in to see the coal ship that is parked on our favourite walking beach this morning - OMG! I hope they get it off without trashing our coastline :(

We've got a bit of damage to our roof where a tree branch landed on it and no side gate after it got blown off its hinges, and Megan and I had a wild trip home from the centre of Newcastle on Friday afternoon, but we got off pretty lightly because we live up fairly high. The flooding around here on the roads on Friday just had to be seen to be believed! It was just horrible reading about the people that got swept away in their cars, especially the family on the Central Coast. One of the kiddies was the same age as Megan :(

Hi Ladies,

Just dropping in to say hi - I am currently 12DPO and got a -ve yesterday. I am completely unable to wait to test and really ought to know better! Will be back tomorrow for personals. Sticky vibes to all the new BFP's...

Hi Ladies,

I think I have good news to report ladies. I tested on 10 dpo (negative), then 12 dpo (still negative). I took my kids shopping and out for lunch today. By the time I got home at 4pm, I was busting for a wee, so decided to test again. I walked away and returned five minutes later, to discover a faint, but definately clear BFP. I'm shocked, as I really wasn't expecting it this month.

AF is a day or two late. The other symptoms I have had have only been a bit of a bleeding nose, and have felt hot/flushed in my face at night. I have had no AF symptoms, so was getting a bit suspicious by that. BBs are not sore, but were a bit tender a week ago, and I feel a little bit tired. So for those of you on the 2WW, I'm living proof that you can test too early and get those BFNs. I was going to hang out to 16dpo before I tested again. The only reason I didn't was because when I was in Myer with my kids, we walked past the baby clothes - and this really cute bright red singlet jumped out at me (I have a fettish for anything red!!) - it was a bit out of character for me to buy it - but I thought what the hell, and to me it represented hope for the future and to "think positively". Then got home and - whammo BFP!!

I will re-test in the morning, as that line will need to get really dark before I fully believe it. And I'm only 4 weeks, so it's so very very early to know. I pray all will go ok with this little one - not only sticking now, but sticking around after he/she is born (my full term little man died only 18 hours old of pneumonia).

I'm feeling very emotional over my little man - mixed emotions. I know it's pretty early to be preggers again, but I'm not getting any younger, nor is my partner, and we don't want to leave it too long.

Thinking of you all - and have faith that it will happen for you. When it happens, it just happens, and will creep up on you. I pray for you all.

Love Lee xoxo

Wow, CONGRATS Lee & Sarah!!! That's really fab news and i'm pleased for you both. i can't imagine going through what you have both been through, and my thoughts are with you over the next nine months or so.

Cherie, sorry about your news, that must have been hard. Are you okay?

Hope the rest of you girls are doing well - fingers crossed for everyone in the 2ww!

Lee – What wonderful news! I’m so excited for you.:dance: I’m 100% positive that this pregnancy will go perfectly for you.

Shellbell – 12DPO is still really early, I’m sure your BFP is just around the corner! I totally understand the irresistible urge to test though. HPT’s must be big business at the rate we go through them!

Susannah – So glad to hear that you and your family are ok. All my DH’s family and most of our friends live in the Hunter region, so we have been kept well informed on all the goings on. The news of that family near the Reptile Park was especially sad, makes you want to hug all your loved ones close.

Lee – Good luck with the next test. Why is it that time seems to slow down during the TTW? Just not fair.

Sarah – Congrats on the BFP!! :dance:That is wonderful news. Hope that the m/s is not too severe!

Cherie – So sorry that things went pear-shaped. Hope this cycle is the one for you.

Kiwigirl – Good luck with the next test. I know what you mean about the whole telling before 12 weeks thing. I was absolutely bursting with the news the last time (ohh… to have that innocence back again). But this time (if it happens for me :cry:) I’m tempted to wait until at least 16 weeks to tell everyone.

Bun – hope you are doing ok. Such a tough choice about the monitoring, maybe just let things sink in a little bit first and then see how you feel about it.

Zennie – So sorry that you have to be here. Can’t believe that a workplace could treat you with so little compassion after everything you have been through. Sounds like you might have made the right decision in leaving if they could treat someone like that. Hope things start getting a little easier for you soon.

Sharon – Hope you are doing ok. Maybe it is a good thing that you are not obsessing too much this cycle. For some reason it seems to be when loads of people get their BFP’s. When are you up for testing this cycle?

Trying to be positive – Oh honey! So sorry that you are having such a long crappy cycle. I totally empathise with you. My last cycle was 49 days and nearly sent me over the edge. My GP said that it just happens sometimes. (Not much help I know…). Glad you got a BD in anyhow, I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. When are you due to test?

Satya – So sorry that nasty AF arrived. Best of luck with the appointment tomorrow. Having a plan always makes me feel better! Hope it works for you.

Claire – how are you feeling now? Hope things are going well.
Pash – Best of luck, hope things are going well for you! Paris sounds like an excellent plan…

Shoegal – How are you going? How frustrating is it to have to take the cycle off. I was told to wait 2 cycles, and it nearly killed me! No, I’m not seeing a FS yet. My GP seems to think there is not a problem yet because I have only had one m/c (one too many if you ask me), and counting the months we had to take off, she said it is not a full year of TTC yet. Hmmmm.

Kerry – How are you going honey? Are you trying this cycle? (Sorry if you have already said, have kind of been out of the loop for a while.)

Sandielreese – So sorry that you have to join us here. Looks like we might be cycle buddies? I was wondering if anyone else was at the same stage as me. I (unfortunately) have quite a long cycle though, so not quite sure when I will O. Best of luck for this cycle, hope you catch the eggie.

Salt – How are you going sweetie? Hope you are doing ok.

Not much to report from me. Starting to feel a little more positive about this cycle. Thinking I might be about to O, and have been coaxing DH to do some serious BD’ing. So wish me luck and keep me in your prayers, we could really use them.

Love

Leyla, my GP said that if we weren't preggers after 6 months of TTC then she would have referred us to an FS. She says 12 months is too long in her opinion. Turns out we are seeing an FS anyway about something unrelated but isn't it amazing the different things we are all told. I know it's *best* to wait a cycle TTC for my mental and physical state but I feel more desperate for my AF to return every day know that others have been told that they can TTC as soon as bleeding stops after a natural miscarriage or D&C. :wall: :wall:

Hey everyone else, will be back on the weekend for personals, sorry, just so flat out with work ATM.

Just dropping in to say :happyforyou: Bun & Lee, and Pash & Claireabel.

Fantastic news!

Hi everyone

Lee, Bun & Pash, Claireabel- Congratulations, all the very best for a H&H 8 more months!!!

Shellbell - Maybe it is just too early, wait another couple of days, i know, its torture!

Shoegal - I just said that i had an appointment with a specialist and needed a referral letter. You are paying the Gp for a service, its not up to a gp to decide when you can see a specialist...the waiting for AF is torture...i know, i hope she is here soon.

Satya - So sorry af arrived, give this cycle your best shot its all you can do xx

Leyla - Happy B'Ding, hope you catch the egg...

Kiwigirl - Good luck for thursday, all fingers crossed for you.

Cherie26 - Pee sticks are evil, if they didnt exist it would be a whole lot easier i think...either pos beta or af i say...in saying that i test from 12dpo :D

Sorry if i missed anyone else, thinking of you all...

Well we had the insem on Sunday and we still only had the one follicle, but hopefully it will be a FSH super charged follie!!! so its only 2 days post IUI, so in about 10 days we'll test at home to see if there is a faint line... fingers crossed. The timing feels good, kim said the insem was painless and our dr said that she had really fertile mucus etc and the os was open a little bit so i think everything is in with our best shot...Officially in the TWW again!!:pray:

Hi everyone,

First of all apolgies to anyone I miss as it's been really busy in here since I was last on.

Trying - Do give vitex a go. I've been taking it since February & I got a BFP in March. Obviously it didn't stick or I wouldn't be in this thread, but I think it had something to do with me conceiving that cycle. I was taking it for PMS as my partner had complained about me getting psycho in the lead up to AF - I bet he wishes he could take his words back now as I get far worse now we are actively TTC and I now think I'm worse.
Sharon - Don't feel bad about the neighbour. I would have felt exactly the same way as you did with such an announcement. Nothing you said or thought could have affected the outcome of her pregnancy.
Pash - Don't worry about the lack of symptoms. Some women don't get any at all.
Bun - I think you should go along with the monitoring. As much as it will be stressful and inconvenient at times, at least it will keep your mind at rest that you are doing everything possible to sustain this pregnancy. If you don't do it and something goes wrong you will be here beating yourself up saying you should have gone along with it.
Kiwigirl- As much as I'd like to think of it as an implant bleed I don't think it's likely. Yes it was a couple of days earlier than AF was expected and it was light & short (two days followed by 1 day so far of spotting) but my temp went down a couple of days before it came and has stayed down so I don't think it's possible. Good luck holding off testing.
Lee - congrats on the :bfp:. Sending you heaps of :stickyvibesgirl:
Cherie26 - Sorry things didn't turn out well. It sounds like you may have had a chemical pregnancy.
Congratulations to AngelJemma.
Megsmum I'm glad you didn't suffer too much damage in the storm. It really was awful hearing about those swept away in their cars. I was so hopeful that they would find that family washed up somewhere, but it did not turn out that way.
Twomums - good luck ith the TWW.
:)
Well my AF came and went without any drama. Two days of spotting, two light days then a day of spotting. I'm still getting up throughout the night to wee, must be the cold weather. I'm CD4 now.

The weekend was not an easy one. I went to a family gathering and I had myself convinced that my SIL was going to announce she was pg. Of course this didn't happen, but I had myself so worked up about it... she had arranged for us all to meet up and rumour is she is TTC so I just jumpted to conclusions. Really silly I know. We also went to a party & there was a pregnant couple there. I knew they'd be there and I knew they were pregnant. I basically just said hello and kept away from them all night. I am just so envious of them I had to stay away as I didn't think I'd handle it well if they talked about the pg. I felt like if I talked to them I might be negative and say something like "its early days yet, anything could go wrong" so I just avoided them. Being a same sex couple they are likely to have already had some challenges in getting where they are now so I just didn't want my negativity to invade their space, if that makes any sense.

I'm off to the gyno this morning and I'm hoping that by taking my BT results and my scan images with me it might speed up the process. I know this is only wishful thinking as I know doctors all like to do things their way.

Hi Satya - just wanted to wish you a successful appointment today! I really truly hope you get a good plan in place and you WILL succeed this cycle OK.... you will........ you will.........! Looking forward to you reporting in later.

Hello to everyone else. Sorry for lack of personals, but doing a million and one things this morning. I re-tested when I woke up today - and same again - faint positive, no darker that yesterday afternoon. Today, I'm 15dpo, so still early by my books. Shall re test in a couple of days. Last 2 nights, I've had trouble staying asleep.

Hugs to all.

Lee xoxoxo

Hi everyone. I've just got back from my appointment and to be honest I'm a little shocked. I went thinking I might be coming home with a prescription for clomid or something to sort my hormones out as two GPs had told me my hormones were all over the place. Instead I come out on a waiting list for a lap & hysteroscopy followed by IVF.

The ultrasound results that I took with me show that I could have a fibroid. My GP had told me that was nothing to worry about and would not stop me getting pregnant. The specialist told me that fibroids can cause miscarriages and that the recent one could have been caused by it (if it is one). If it is indeed a fibroid they will get rid of it while they are in there having a look.

He doesn't want to see me again until I have had the procedures done. I also have to have a whole host of blood work done and DF has to go have a semen analysis. He's not happy about that. He was thinking as he already has a child he wouldn't have to, but I knew that would not be the case.

I just was not prepared for all this right now. I thought these were things that might happen later on but not straight away. I think it's due to my age that he's not prepared to sit around and wait to see what happens.

I don't have private insurance so I have to wait which is fine by me. The last time I had this done I only had to wait a month (about 10 years ago) so it will be very interesting to see how bad the waiting lists are these days. He said he'd do his best to get me in as soon as he can due to the age factor. He also said I might get pregnant again naturally in the mean time but now if I do I will panic because I will just think I will m/c due to a perhaps non existant fibroid.

I know it doesn't sound like it but I have taken the news pretty well. No tears yet, have felt them coming a couple of times but I've managed to keep them at bay. Maybe it will hit me later. I wish I had the whole day off work, I so don't want to go in there and face people, but I have so much work to do I can't just not go in.

I can't complain, I wanted a plan - now I have one.

Satya - that does sound like a lot to take in, but at least there is a plan and I think it's good that they are trying to get things done quickly for you. I have also heard that a fibroid can cause m/c, and I have had a scan done to check for that too. It is something that can be very easily removed, esp if you in having a lap & hysteroscopy at the same time. I so hope that this is the solution for you, and although IVF is a scary thought, it does have pretty good success rates and may be a good plan, if it comes to that. It is also good that all the BTs have been ordered - I have had HEAPS and all came back clear, but it is good to know what you may/may not be dealing with. I don't understand why your DP has to do a semen analysis - it seems silly, but a lot of specialists seem to want all the tests done, regardless of whether they really seem necessary or not. I hope you are taking care of yourself - it is a lot to take in, so spoil yourself a little today, ok?

Lee - congrats!! Yay - so many BFPs here lately!!

Salt - where are you? Are you ok? We're missing you in here!!

Sarah - woo hoo!! COngrats!

Cherie - it sounds like you may have had a chem pg. I have had one of them before, and it is pretty upsetting, even though it's over so quickly because it gets your hopes up. It is really common, and hopefully next time you will be announcing a BFP for real!!!

Sorry to anyone I have missed.

I did another HPT last night as I had convinced myself that this one wasn't going to make it too, and I got a bright clear second line that came up immediately! Yay! That reassured me last night, but today I am again feeling scared. Still not sure what to do re the monitoring, but thinking maybe I will go along with it this Friday, and then see what happens from there. This is just sooooo scary, and I can't just not think about it like DH tells me.

Megan - good luck!

Bun - Good to hear that you got a cleat +ve test. I would do what the doc says and get the tests, at least you will know what is happening etc.

SP - I really felt for you last cycle and some times I found it good just to step back and take a break. With the cycle I feel pregnant I got heaps of EWCM and it was CD 14 (normally don't O until CD 16 to 18), so we dtd and I managed to fall pg. Even FF told me that I had not Oed until CD17!!!! So I would dtd tonight and then maybe stop for a day or so and monitor what your body is doing.

Hi,

A big thanks to everyone who posts in here. You all from afar have been a great support which I am unable to get from anyone else no matter how hard they try !
I had a missed miscarriage/D&C in early May and got my AF this monday. It has really thrown me for a loop and brought back all the feelings of the miscarriage. My DH and I will be actively TTC this coming month and reading all the posts in here gives me so much hope and encouragement that it helps to get through the bad days.

So thanks to you all .:clap:

Salt - yay! I thought you were feeling a bit down about your last cycle and that was why you were feeling down. We are all here for you to vent away if you are ever feeling down about things, so don't be a stranger! You don't have to post about TTC, it can be about anything! It sounds like you did have a v early chem pg, which is what I had a couple of cycles ago. It really got me down too, but it is v common, not that that makes it any easier. I hope you are doing ok. It sounds like you do have EWCM, so maybe you are going to O earlier this cycle! That would be great! I usually get up to a week of EWCM before O, so maybe you are just getting more and will then O at the usual time? Either way, it is sounding good!

BekZ - thanks for popping in. I am thinking maybe I will get the monitoring done. It totally terrifies me waiting for the results, but at least if they are ok I will have some reassurance, at least for a day or so!

Nexttime - welcome and sorry to hear of your loss. It can be hard getting AF for the first time, but it also means that it is time to move on and try again! It is a really hard road to travel down, but we are all here for you whenever you need to talk. :hug:

Hello!

Satya - Wow, there seems a lot to take in - but it really does sound like your man has a very definate and productive plan, that'll get you pregnant asap. I like people who don't mess around, no time to waste! You'll slowly absorb it all, and you may fall pregnant before needing to proceed down the IVF path anyway - after you rid yourself of the fibroid. I know you sound a bit overwhelmed, but also you sound relieved. I'm really happy for you, and well done for taking active positive steps to get what you want. Go girl!!!!!!!!!!!

Bun - thanks - I'm still in a bit of disbelief. I don't really feel pregnant yet. With my other ones, the symptoms didn't kick in till about week 7-8, then I got really yucky morning sickness - perhaps I won't get it this time, I don't care either way, just praying for a healthy little babe.

Salt - welcome back - and I laughed at your post - I don't think anything would shock us girlies in here!! Nor put us off our lunch! Sounds like O is on her way to you, guess you'll just have to BD often for the next week, that'll cover it - this is one of the upsides of TTC ;) My hubby and I dtd everyday once a day around O, and it worked this time. Never been much good at holding back - and I've read that it's better to do it everyday - i.e. keep the fresh spermies incoming, as opposed to trying to stretch it out and only dtd every other day. I reckon go for it!! And praying for you this month - surely all the positives in here will continue to rub off on everyone.

Hello to everybody else.

Nothing major to report from me, which is good I guess. I'm trying to to constantly think "I'm pregnant" - and put it to the back of my mind - as I just worry too much about this or that.......... but being casual only works for a short time. All any of us can do is to keep trying and to believe it'll work out.

Hugs to you all.

Lee xo

Hi everyone,

Feeling very blah today, massive temp. drop so not going to test and feel like AF is about to turn up any moment now. Maybe next month will be my month :) Think I need to have a break for a little while from here but will be back. DH was nice about it and said that maybe my body just needed another month to recover from everything.

Rachel

Hi guys, haven't posted on here for a while but have been lurking about and reading the posts. Seeing all the new pg people is really encouraging and I am empathising with them as far as their worries and concerns are. I want nothing more in the world at this moment to fall pg again but when I do I will be petrified that something will go wrong again.

So anyhow it is now cd7 for me and have finished taking my 2nd cycle of clomid. The side effects this time around don't seem to be as harsh as the 1st. Maybe my body is a bit more used to drugs this time?? I had really bad night sweats and I was very moody all the time. Still getting the hot flushes, mainly in bed at night but I can cope with that.

I am using maybe baby to try to track when I am o but the ferning started already yesterday and then this morning it was pretty full on as well. I wouldn't be O this early would I? I know that I got about 4 days of spotting before the full AF hit and on the second day of spotting I took the first clomid tab but realised afterwards I should have waited until full flow so re-started a new packet of tabs on cd2. Would this be why I have the ferning happening so soon?

Feel like such a dill in here, everyone else seems to be so in touch with what is going on! Any advice would be appreciated :redface:

megsmum - Oh thanks for saying that about vitex. Are you taking it at certain times only? Like up until O? Or after? I have heard so many different things... I am thinking I will need to take it before O so that it can shorten the time until I O! I really hope it helps, cos I would love to have a BFP next month!

Leyla - Thank you... I thought that my GP might jut say its a long cycle too, so I didnt bother going... but I am in so much pain today, so I am gonna see him tomorrow anyway... and see if there is anything else I can do. Hoping my next cycle is more normal.

Lee - Congrats!!! YAY!!! You have given me some more hope! I think the singlet was a sign!!

Satya - I bought some vitex, and just wanted to check when do you take it? The whole cycle or just certain parts? I really hope it helps us conceive too... if nothing else it might help my PMS... LOL I hope you are still feeling positive, because you do have a plan and hopefully this will lead to a baby in your arms!

TwoMums - Keeping everything crossed for you!!!

AF turned up last night, in full force, and I am in a huge amount of pain that no drugs will help! (naprogisic and panodol) I am ok, cos I didn't really think it was our month... but I am just worried cos it is soooooo heavy, and so much pain... but I am happy that at last she is here and we can get a clean slate - Thats how I am looking at it... but the pain and the heaviness is not nice at all... :( I am worried that maybe it is a Chem PG or an early MC... I am in so much pain... and I never get this kind of pain... I really hope it is just my body sorting itself out, ready for next cycle...

Do you think this pain is anything to worry about though?

Hope everyone is going well... and that those who are PG have a nice smooth PG!

Hi Trying to be Positive,

I only started taking the Vitex this cycle on CD6, and started the homeopathics last cycle on about CD10 I think it was. Anyway, from all the reading I did about it, it seemed that the concensus was to take it throughout the whole cycle, and to stop taking it once you get a BFP. satya, you may want to correct me if I'm wrong?? Personally, I'd be getting onto it straight away if I were you.

I don't know if you are interested or not, but I'll mention it anyway, the homeopath has got me taking her stuff all the way through my cycle and says you should also take it for the first 3 months of pg. BUT, my understanding is it doesn't contain much Vitex and also does contain a whole lot of other stuff - not sure what.

I didn't mention in my last post, but interestingly I normally get really bad headaches around AF time and I didn't get them at all with my last AF. I reckon its more than a coincidence.

Gotta go, be back in the next couple of days to do personals! Hope everyone is doing well :)

Megsmum - Thanks so much for your reply! I have started taking it today and will just keep taking it and see how I go... need to go home right now and get a heat pack on my tummy.... oooouuuuch!

Thank you again so much... I have to say that this forum has saved me... so much... you all have no idea how much better I am coping having found you all. :grouphug:

To Trying To Be Positive - Kims very first period after the D&C was very painful too, lots of bleeding as well, she had the hot water bottle all the time and panadol and panadeine if it got too bad...i think its fairly normal...everyone is different tho.

Hi girls

Kiwigirl, i am sorry you're feeling so down, this whole ttc business is such a rollercoaster. I hope you have a high very soon. Your DH sounds lovely, i hope he spoils you over the next few days.

Salt, good to see you back in here, i've been wondering how you're going. i think from your description that's EWCM you saw, as semen is more brittle and doesn't stretch as much (noooo, not just from personal experience, from reading!). good luck this cycle.

Satya, that's a lot to take in. it's very overwhelming but i guess the silver lining is that your specialist is being very proactive and doing everything s/he can to help you have a baby.

Nexttime, welcome. you'll find this place is amazingly supportive. the girls here were wonderful when i joined and i hope you find comfort here too.

TimNik, i don't really know much at all about clomid so am not much help really. i also never had any luck with maybe baby either. i think though it might be possible to o early... maybe give it a few days and see what happens?

trying to be positive, hope the pain has cleared up a little. i suspect i may have had a very early m/c in jan, as i was much later than normal (and we'd been trying) but i didn't test before i got a really bad AF, very similar to what you're describing. if the pain continues then see your doc, but if not that maybe it's just an effect from the m/c or maybe as you say a v early m/c. hopefully you've got a clean slate for this cycle.

Bun - are you going to go on friday? good luck if you do, i know it's hard.
Lee - how are you? and Pash, are you there?

nothing new from me, except m/s has started, much earlier than last time. i've been a bit emotional, this pregnancy has me thinking a lot about the last pregnancy and baby and it's a real rollercoaster, v happy and v sad. i am seeing my obs next tues, when hopefully he'll be able to tell me everything's okay so far (although maybe not b/c i will only be 6 weeks). this stage in my last pregnancy i was thinking 'i'm going to be holding my baby in 35 weeks', and this time is so different, i just hope i'm still going to be pregnant next week. the goals are much smaller this time.

Hi to anyone I've missed, it's not intentional, this place is just so busy!

No problem Trying! I hope those AF pains get better for you really soon!

Hi everyone!

Have had no internet access for days, have missed sooo much!

Lee - congrats!! Wow, so many BFP's, this is great! A few more would be wonderful.

I will catch up later on personals, have so much to read through.

Am 1 week into my 2WW, feeling very crampy so not sure that it's a good sign.... BT is next Friday, not sure how long I'll be able to hold out before wanting to do a HPT.

BBL for personals.

Hi everyone. I haven't been in for ages and looks like I've missed a fair bit of action!!!

I've needed a bit of "me" time of late. Losing patience with the TTC at the minute. So many of our friends are now having babies (2 babies born just on the weekend!) and although we are extremely happy for them, we're both finding it very hard at the minute.

This month I took to using an ovulation kit for the first time as I had tried Maybe Baby and the temperature thing, neither of which really seemed to do it for me. The ovulation kit only once gave me a feint line in the 5 days that I tested and that was day 13 (my cycle is usually 25 or 26 days). So, technically my period is tomorrow, but not being able to contain myself, I did a test Wednesday morning and it came up with a very faint second line, but it was a Fortel Ultra test, which I have since found a thread saying how it has been false for a lot of people. I used the same test the first time and got a faint line, so not sure. Fingers crossed, but I don't feel too positive about it. My boobs are swollen and a little sore at times, but I think I am talking myself in to it!

Have already made an appt with GP for next Wednesday as I would just like her to check that all is ok whether I get +ve pg or not......a bit nervous that maybe I'm not ovulating properly since the results were so faint.

Well enough from me! Great to hear everyone's news and I will be sure to stay in touch more this time!

Hugs to all
xo

Hi ladies,

Boy you girls can talk! I'm seriously struggling to keep up!

Mouse - sounds really positive (pardon the pun)! A line is a line! Hope the bt comes back with strong positve results!

Satya - Wow, your appointment sounds so full on. Sounds like they are not stuffing around though which must be a huge relief. Even though it must be scary as hell, its good to know that they are taking it seriously and going to make things happen for you. You have to laugh about the DH test thing though, they really get off quite easy compared to us girls, but still find a way to be offended by it!

Salt - Hope you have been busy! Sounds like we might be cycle buddies? Hope you caught the eggie. Am I right in assuming that loads of EWCM is a good sign? I have had heaps this month, unlike the last 3. I'm putting it down to forcing myself to drink 10 glasses of water a day and taking Macca root.

Bun - Glad things are going well. Must have been so satisfying to see two nice dark lines come up again. Have you started getting m/s yet?

Claire - Sorry that the m/s has kicked in. Hope you appointment goes well next week.

Megan - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and Kim, and hanging out to hear your test results. Hope you get a nice big jucy BFP!

Susannah - I was wondering about the Vitex thing. I had read some stuff about only taking it during the first part of your cycle. But then I also read something about how it takes about 3 months for you to see any benefits from it... so not sure how that works if you are TTC because you would only be taking it part-time. Does that sound right?

Tryingtobepositive - So sorry that AF is so painful. I hope it does not last too long. The only positive thing about heavy AF's is that it cleans you out for a nice sticky new pregnancy... or so I'm told.

Timnik77 - Sorry honey, never tried the ferning thing. Sometimes our bodies do strange things though. After my last cycle, I decided the best course of action is to start BD'ing at CD8 and go from there until you are 100% positive that you have O'ed... and then BD for another 3 days.. just in case. (Can you tell I am bitter about missing out last cycle?)

Lee - hope you are doing well. Sending you loads of sticky vibes!

Kiwigirl - Sorry about the nasty temp drop : ( 12DPO is not unheard of for a implantation dip? Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Nexttime - Sorry that you are feeling down. Good luck with TTC this month!

Lisa - How much does the TWW suck! Cramping could be a good sign! Did you have it with your last?

Well I'm still waiting for my temp to rise, but I think I may have O'ed today. Have not been using OPK's this month as they have not worked for me the last 3 months and could not be bothered waisting anymore money on them.

I have a question though, today when I was checking my CM at work I noticed a tiny tiny tiny amount of pinkish blood in my CM. Has anyone else every had spotting with O? I have read that it is not common, but that women only usually pick it up whilst cecking CM closely as it is such a small amount. I'd love to know if anyone else has noticed it...

Big hugs to anyone I've missed. Hope all is going well.

Hi everyone,

Mouse - I hope there's a BFP on its way to you.... sounding very likely.

Bun - glad your HPT came up so quickly - that's a very good sign that all is well.

Nexttime - Sorry for your loss. I hope your TTC journey is a short one.

Salt - glad you are feeling better and I wish you lots of luck with this cycle.

Lee - I'm happy that all is going well with you.

Timnik - the MB detects estrogen so if you have high levels in your system it will fern. I found recently that I had ferns just before my AF and of course I hoped it meant that I was pg but I wasn't. I've had two lots of blood tests done for estrogen levels and both times they were high so I don't use my MB anymore as these levels will obviously affect the result.

Trying - I take Vitex on waking and I take it every day of the cycle. I hope your AF has eased up.

Claireabel - enjoy every moment of your m/c - it's a great sign that all is well.

Sorry to anyone I've missed.

:)

I'm feeling calmer today. It was all a bit of a shock yesterday but I'm over it now. Right now I'm not so worried about the whole IVF possibility, but a little worried that I will get pregnant naturally and then stress majorly about having a m/c because of a stupid fibroid that may not even exist (they wont know for sure until they get in there & have a looksee). I know if I do get pg before the op I will be mega paranoid about m/c.

Anyway I will probably disappear over the weekend as my DF & I are going away for the weekend. My parents are away for a couple of weeks so we are heading off to the beach for the weekend to stay at their house. Not exactly beach weather in Melbourne at the moment but it will be nice to walk the dog along the beach and eat out and do lots of relaxing away from our own home. I'm really looking forward to it.

Hello to everyone. Thanks to all those that tried to answer my concerns about mb. I had a really good read of the instructions last night and think that it may not be the best thing to use when taking clomid as it said it is unsuitable for anyone taking fertility drugs, I am assuming that clomid is that? Woke up today and used it and suprise suprise there was only dots - no ferning. So that's probably a good thing anyhow, from what I have read I should be o'ing next week so not that long to wait.

I might try to do the temp taking thing too, this is going to sound really nieve (sp)? but can you buy any thermometer or is there a special one you have to buy? And will it matter if I start charting the temps now that i am on cd8? I feel a real dill having to ask such silly questions! Is there anyone else here that is about the same time in their cycle as me?

Feeling bit down today, not sure if it's the clomid messing me around but feel depressed. We have termites at home, the house is full of them. Luckily we have insurance to cover the work that is being done, they have to take out the bottom layer of bricks right around the whole house and redo the mesh barrier. The house is rendered too so I am guessing it will never look the same again. We have had the work people here for over two weeks now, sick of the mess, dust and people being here in general! They haven't even started inside yet... that will be worse!

Sorry for the vent, hoping that having a whinge will make me feel somewhat better... Hope everyone else is having a good day :)

Hi everyone,

timnik - you need to buy an ovulation thermometer, they measure to 2 decimal places whereas a regular one only measures to 1 decimal place. If you ask at a chemist they should be able to help you. I'd just start charting now if I were you. I'm so sorry about your house :( I'd feel down about it too. That would be just awful having termites, hope its all fixed soon and that you feel better about things soon too.

satya - That's great that the FS has a plan for you now - I know I always feel better knowing what is going to happen. I can understand your worry, but try not to stress about the fibroid I'm sure it will turn out to not be a problem. Hope you enjoy your weekend at the beach!

Leyla - I read stuff saying only the first half of the cycle too. I can understand what you're saying - if you only take it for the first half of the cycle will it then take 6 months to have an effect?? LOL I hope not!! But seriously, I found more info that said to take it for the whole cycle rather than just the first half, so I decided that that's what I'd do. I'm also taking a vitamin B supplement as well, because the main reason I'm doing the Vitex is because I have a short luteal phase. But I think it has probably been more the homeopathic medicine that has had the effect for me at this stage anyway, because I've been taking it for a month longer than the Vitex.

mouse - all the best for your GP appointment, that all sounds very promising

*las* - all the best for next week!

Claire - sorry to hear about the m/s - yuck! Hope your appointment next week goes well

kiwigirl - what a bummer! But good luck for next month!

nexttime - all the best for when you start to TTC!

salt - sorry I can't help with your question, but I hope you are doing OK now :) Good idea to BD just in case I think - good luck for this month!

Well I'm now 10 (or maybe 11) DPO, so only a few more days to go :) I'm really not sure when I'll test if AF doesn't show up, maybe Monday. With all the changes that I've had this cycle - early O - I'm a little bit confused and have got no idea when AF will show up if she does. I hope not!!

I went and had blood taken for CD21 hormone levels today anyway - I had a request from my gynae visit last month, so I thought it would be best to get them done this month just to rule out or find any problems. At least then if I'm not PG this month I will know whether there is a problem or not, and if there is I can hopefully get something done about it.

I'm feeling quite positive about it all though - I've been really hungry the last couple of days and I think maybe I'm going to the loo a little bit more often than normal. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much though - don't want to be disappointed if AF shows. Cross your fingers for me!!

Hello to everyone I've missed, hope you are all well :)

SP - Hope you feel better really soon hon. I looked at your chart and I can't tell if you have Oed yet, I guess a couple more days of temps would give a better picture. Sorry not much help.

Hiya Salt,

Sorry to hear you're not feeling so good :( I'm not sure you've O but then again I'm no expert - normally you O later judging by your chart?? And sometimes you have a mini-peak at around this point... but then again you got a +'ve OPK. Confusing. At least you're covered with BD if you did O.

Thanks for checking out my chart, it has totally confused me. I did another test today but still BFN. I'm not feeling like AF is on its way today.... so weird!!!!! I have no idea what's going on with my body right now. Hopefully tomorrow my temp. will still be up.

Hi guys,

Salt - good to have you back again. I reckon you may have O'ed a couple of days ago looking at your temps. It will be interesting to see what tomorrow's does. That would be so great if you O'ed that early - yay! I really hope so. I don't know what to do about the OB. I am just too scared to book. I may today if the results are good, but I'm not sure. I did have to phone my health fund the other day to check which OBs are fully covered incase the one I want isn't available. It feels so scary to acknowledge I am pg, and I kept saying to the woman on the ph 'If I make it that far.' I can't help it - she must have thought I was so negative. I hope you feel better soon.

megsmum - good luck! I hope the BT results are good.

timnik - sorry things are so annoying atm. I would hate that many people around my house, what a pain! Clomid can make you more irritable too, so that's probably not helping. The girls have done a good job answering your Q re temping. Just check out FF - it's really good and has heaps of FAQs for help. I knew nothing before I started it!

Satya - I'm glad you are feeling a bit calmer now. It sounds like you will have a lovely weekend away. Enjoy yourselves!!

Lee - how are you feeling?

kiwigirl - it's good that AF hasn't arrived yet. Good luck!

mouse - it sounds good to me!

Claire - I've been really emotional too, always thinking this one will end like the others did. It's really hard. My goals are much shorter too. I can't even think of actually having a baby at the end of this! Just getting through today occupies my mind enough.

Hi to everyone I have missed.

Well, the symptoms have kicked in. I am constantly nauseous, last night was awful, and so so tired I nearly fell asleep at work yesterday. I just wish the symptoms would reassure me that all is going well but they don't. With my m/cs, it took some time after each one ended before the symptoms finally went, so I am not feeling reassured at all. I went and got the BT done this morning, so need to wait til around 2.30pm for the results. I am not feeling too nervous yet, because I am too sick to be nervous, but I reckon the anxiety will start to build up soon. I did another HPT last night and got a nice dark line straight away again. With my second m/c I didn't actually m/c until 5w3d, but at 5w I received confirmation that my levels had dropped and it was just a matter of time. I only got the follow up BT that time because an HPT I did the day before came up almost negative, so I was sure something was up. Therefore really this pg has already made it further than the last one!! Yay!! That was my first milestone. Obviously the next is to get a heartbeat and then to make it past the date of my first m/c. Oh, such a long hard road, but I guess we have to do it. The lady who took my blood today (they know me now, I am there so often), said congrats, and I told her that my history is not good and I m/c, and she said she has had many many m/cs too but now has 2 kids and to keep trying as it is all worth it. That helped me so much this morning - maybe that's why I am not as nervous as usual yet, she gave me hope that even if this one doesn't work out, if we keep trying, then one day it will.

Bun - I will be thinking about you this arvo. Hugs and fingers crossed:)

Afternoon.

Bun fingers crossed that you had good news this afternoon.

SaltP Looked at your chart and you might have O'ed...you could try chucking a couple of high temps in for the next few days and see what FF does. Looks as though you are covered with the BD'ing anyway!

Have been out of here too much lately and feel all left behind... have tried to post a couple of times and have ran out of time at work - it's hard to fit it in when I have lots to do. It is all over for me this month. AF arrived last night with a quite a fury... have been in a lot of pain all day today. has anyone else found AF worse since m/c?

This AF seems to have brought reality home for my DH. I have been welll and truly aware of reality since April, but he has been in denial a little I think. He is quite upset by the fact that we still aren't PG and has now convinced himself that there is something wrong with him... unfortunately i don't have a lot of emotional energy left to comfort him as I am feeling pretty crap myself. Anyway enough boo-hooing, especially as there are plenty of people here that have been trying so much longer than us!

Sorry about the selfish post!

Finally have my results and all is going well!

My HCG is now 3060! It was 131 last week, and the clinic said they wanted to see it at 1300, so that is a great result! My oestrogen and progesterone are still really good too.

I don't really feel happy though, just relieved that the wait for the ph call is over. I'm not sure if I will do the monitoring thing next week - the stress is just too much. Only 2 wks til my first scan now (talk about scary - at my last scan they told me my baby had died).

I am soooo tired from the m/s and the stress of waiting for the ph call, I could curl up and go to sleep now. I have to go out straight after work at 5.30 so I am not sure how I am going to manage it.

I'm thinking maybe I will actually get a pg ticker (but only a very tentative one), and I also need to book an OB. That seems way too serious for me and I'm not sure if I am up for that now, but I really want one particular OB and I would hate to not be able to book him.

Sorry for such a selfish post. I just don't have the energy for anything more, but I am thinking of you all.

Love Bun xx