Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss November 08

Hi everyone,

Sorry I didn't post about my FS appointment last night but I wasn't sure how I felt about it all, I still don't!

I know what you all mean about feeling 'ripped off'. DH and I keep thinking about how our little angel would have been almost 6 months at Christmas and it would've been so special to celebrate our first Christmas as a little family. Just went out and did some Christmas shopping and there were newborn babies everywhere I looked. Maybe next Christmas *sigh*.

Will start off with persies first.

Indy - I don't know what to say and I know nothing I can say will make it any easier. So I will send you a hug instead.:hug: Know that we are all here for you if you need to vent. :comfort:

HannahD - Hi TTC buddy! Know what you mean about keeping busy. Lucky it is a busy time of year! I am having all my family over for Christmas lunch this year and I was excited about it but not so much anymore. I hope having visitors cheers you up and takes your mind off things. :)

Issy - :stickyvibesgirl:

Jen - Do you ever sleep?

Polly - Sorry you have to be here but I am glad you have found us. Like the other girls said, don't ever apologise for venting, that's what we are all here for. I'm not sure what I did before I could talk to the wonderful ladies on this thread.

HannahS86 - Don't think I have said hi to you yet! :noaf:

Megsmum - How are you doing?:stickyvibesgirl:

Smi & Tam83 - :stickyvibesgirl:

Big hi to babymiracles, plc, krystielove, WTH, AJC, jenushka, tempus, fificlaire and angel (if you are lurking!).

P.S. I know I have used all sticky vibes girl but I run out of smilies!

AFM - FS said my progesterone levels of 37 were very high so I am definitely ovulating and my ovarian resistance blood test came back all ok. Basically all my BT have come back with no problems, I am still waiting on the results from the lupus one. He wants to test my progesterone levels again this month just to check if I o again at CD22 and if the levels are as high. I know you can o at different times each month but if I do o around day 22 we have been missing it every month as I thought it was around day 17/18. I checked FF charts last night and the whole time I have been charting (4 cycles) we haven't BD at all really around day 22.

If my levels come back ok again the next step is to have a laporoscomy to check my tubes and also check if I have endrimetriosis. He doesn't think my tubes would be blocked since I have been pg once but wants to exhaust all options.

Failing all of that there seems to be no real issue so it will then be our decision whether we want to try IVF. The FS said we are young enough to keep TTC naturally but if we want to try and 'speed' up the process we can look at IVF. He said clomid wouldn't work for me as I am quite clearly o with high levels.

I don't know how or what to feel. Part of me is relieved but another part of me wanted something to be wrong so we had answers and could work on trying to fix the problem. I am so frustrated :wall:

The receptionist at the FS office is about 8 months pg and she said it was a long, hard road for them and said never to give up. We certainly don't intend to but gee it is so hard sometimes.

I calculated and day 22 will be New Year's Eve. Maybe we could start the year off with a bang - lol!

Tomorrow is the day for an HPT but I have been getting slight cramps and I am afraid that AF will be arriving soon and my hopes and dreams of some good news will end tomorrow! I was getting so excited but I don't think I am going to have any celebrations tomorrow........:cry:

Mannie -:pray: you get some answers so your next bub is a sticky one! Hopefully this ob can put your mind at ease before Christmas so you can look to the New Year with renewed hope. :hug:

Zachary's mum - So sorry, I know exactly how you feel. I had convinced myself and DH that this month was 'our' month. Remember it's not over till AF shows though! Sending heaps of AF vibes. :noaf:

Apologies for the extra long post last time ladies (I didn't realise it was so long!).

AF reared it's ugly head about an hour ago! I am beside myself with sadness. I just keep crying. My DP has been fantastic (yet again) just holding me and letting me blubber like an idiot. I was just so excited as tomorrow would have been the 14th day. I was hoping we might have some good news for Christmas but now it seems like 2008 will have no good news.

Sorry to be so morbid but I am feeling very sorry for myself.

Theresa - I am so sorry :hug: My FS summed it up yesterday when he said this journey can be just 'soul destroying'. Unfortunately we all know too well how utterly devastating it is each month AF shows up. :(

I too, was a mess this week (especially Wednesday as I got AF that morning and I was convinced I was pregnant, had lots of symptoms). I just cried and cried. I have still been emotional the last couple of days with tears welling up every time I think about the baby we so desperately long for.

It sounds like you have a wonderful DP to support you. I would never have survived the last 15 months without my DH. Whenever I am down about not being pg I always remind myself how lucky I am to have my DH and we are lucky to have found each other, some people never find their soulmate. Now all we want is to start our family. All we can do is cling to the hope that it will happen, just not as quickly or as easily as we would like (or deserve!).

I often question why the journey is so hard for couples who would make such wonderful parents. I'm not sure why but I do know is that we will all feel so much more grateful and blessed when we are holding our healthy baby in our arms. I picture that moment in my mind and it keeps me going.

Let the tears flow and get lots of cuddles from your DP. Never apologise for sounding morbid or feeling sorry for yourself. You are only human and right now your heart is broken. :hug:

I :pray: 2009 is the year for you and your DP so you can begin to heal. :comfort:

It is quiet on here tonight, I think the ladies must be in Friday night chat. I'm not sure how all that works as I am relatively new to this forum thing.

I hope you find some comfort in my words until all the other wonderful ladies respond. I know words don't mean much right now so I will send you another cyber hug :hug:

my heart aches for you both as I remember all too well those feelings as if it were yesterday. sometime ago, we mentioned on here about the "ugly cry" - the sound that comes out of your mouth from deep within where all the pain is locked. as scary as they are, the ugly cries can be cathartic and have their place in healing after loss. don't be afraid to go there - a lot of us have. there is hope of healing (mostly by getting a BFP) but it can be such a long road. there is so much desperation, frustration, confusion, anger, bitterness, disappointment, resentment, unacceptance along that road - and these are major major feelings on their own let alone altogether. be kind to your hearts and your bodies ladies and know that they take time to heal. *sigh* i wish i had taken this advice when it was happening to me - i hated myself, my body had let me down and I felt so guilty. I think I've rambled enough - just wish I could give you a hug for you to know that you are not alone in your feelings.

Thanks so much plc1805. It's so comforting to be able to talk and get advice from people who understand. It's makes it a far less 'lonely' journey.

Your kinds words made me cry, they are so true. I think I have been trying to be too strong lately. I am scared if I let myself cry I may never stop. :redface:

I just feel so helpless at moment but I try to take solace in the fact that it will happen it's just a matter of when. I am just not very patient!

You are one of the success stories and I'm not sure about anyone else but looking at your ticker and hearing about your pregnancy gives me hope. :)

Thanks again :hug:

Theresa - I'm so sorry AF showed. :hug: Don't ever feel you need to apologise for feeling down. Its what we're for. DP sounds wonderful and supportive. I hope 2009 brings you some joy.

Mel - The term "soul-destroying" does sum it up pretty well. I thought I was doing so well the last few weeks. But the last week or so I've been feeling really down since AF arrived. Like you, I was so sure that I was pg this month. No wonder I have trust issues with my body. We should try to take comfort in the fact that we have wonderful partners who care for us - and you are right, some people never find that.

plc - I'm so glad you stick around to give us hope. It means so much to have advice from someone who has come out the other side (well only a few days now).

Mel1979 - I am so sorry for your difficulties. I shouldn't be so selfish when you have been trying for so long. Soul destroying is such an accurate description. I nev er thought I would ever be going on this journey. I would not have survived the last 5 months without my DP - he has been my rock and my life line. W are both so lucky to have such loving and caring partners. I am an emotional soul so letting the tears flow is not hard for me. I haven't been able to picture myself with a new baby yet - I keep imagining holding my Zacaray and wishing he was here. We wanted him so much and both our families were so excited to have a grandson whom they could spoil - it is just so unfair and I have that ever burning question of WHY? I hope 2009 is your year too - I know you deserve it and I will hold you in my thoughts and wishes every time I wish the same for us.

pl1805 - Thank you for your kind words - I had my "ugly cry" tonight - thank goodness I have such a wonderful partner as he just held me and let me go with it. I know what you are saying about hating - I hate myself for not knowing there was something wrong with Zachary, I hate my body for not giving me any warning signs and for not giving me my healty son, I hate the world for taking someone so precious away from me. At least we know there is hope and we just have to try and stay strong.

HannahD - I am sorry we are all experiencing the taunting of AF. I hope you have some joy and good news in your life soon. Maybe 2009 will be a year we can all celebrate in.

So ladies - thank you for giving me support - I really needed that. I might just take some time and shed a few more tears in bed tonight.

:hug: to you all

Theresa - You are not being selfish at all. We may have been trying for longer but you lost your little angel at 35 weeks. I was 6 weeks when I m/c and although it was devastating and the most traumatic thing I have ever experienced I can't imagine how you survived going through what you did. :hug: :hug:

Holding you and your DP in my thoughts and wishing the very best for you both. We have to cling to the hope that one day we will be celebrating the birth of our healthy baby with our partners and families.

HannahD - :hug: I too am angry at my body. I told my best friend the other day that I wanted to trade my body in for a new one!

plc - Thanks for hanging around in this thread to give us hope. ;)

I :pray: 2009 is the year for us all - we all deserve some happiness and would all make wonderful mothers! :)

Toccara - I am so sorry :grouphug: It sux what some people says doesn't it?
Indy - Congratulations :birthday2: :pink-babydust::bluedust:
Mannie - It is hard but your bub is waiting for you in Heaven as mine is also :hug:
Fificlaire- Great news about the scan :hug: hope you feel better soon.
Hannah - I know what you mean about the need to be pregnant, although I have my 2 boys after m/c I wanted to be pregnant agin straightaway but DH wanted to wait a few months :(
Tam- Great news about your u/s :clap:

Issy - :leap: on your bt results
Mel - I have a feeling my DH will also want to wrap me in cotton wool when I get pregnant also. Isn't it sweet how they after us :inlove:
Polly & Theresa - sorry for your loss :grouphug::comfort: you are amongst great friends and ladies here
Zachary's Mom - Sorry AF showed up :wall:
Smi - :hooray: congratulations on your :bfp:
Tempas - I am so sorry :grouphug:
AJC - Hope all went well and as planned

AF arrived on 5th so I think :2ww: is up on 2 Jan if I O on CD17 (as I usually do), but am sure I can squeeze in one on 31 :shhh:. Am also getting cramping but not due for AF or O yet unless I O early (bring it on :lol:) :dunno:
Boobs are a little tender today stupid body going funny havent even O'd yet :confused:
I just keep reminding myself that I have my boys and others don't have even that
Yesterday I was getting sharp pains in my left side just below my ribs and today I am getting the same but in the right. Can anyone tell me if that is O pain or just me?
FF says my lp is 11 days so does that mean that I can do a HPT 11 DPO to get an accurate result?

Oh, Indy.... I'm so, so sorry to hear about your loss! :comfort: I wish there were something that I could say or do that could help take away your pain.... you're in my prayers, hon.



WTH--I have been a busy bee! And, yes, I did get my free slice of pizza--and a soda, too! :) I told them that you said I deserved it! lol.... Wish I could help you with your spotting question... sorry.



HannahD--Thanks! Actually, I think that part of why I enjoy doing all the work at the school is because it actually DOES get acknowledged! Not only that, but appreciated, as well... makes it worth all the hard work! Hope you enjoy your visit with your mother and brother-in-law. :hug:



Mannie--Will say lots of :pray: for some great BT results! Good luck with the OB specialist! *hugs*



Mel--Do I ever sleep? :rofl: I do, actually... it's sittingI have a hard time doing! And if I actually DO get to sit... I always fall asleep!

That's good news about your BT results. At least now you know for sure that you're O'ing.... and you're probably right that you've just missed it for the last 4 mo's, because you thought you were O'ing when you weren't!!

Have to say that "soul destroying" is probably the best description I've ever heard for a m/c, and the whole TTC journey in general. *sigh* I'm so sorry that we all have to experience this Christmas without our little angel babies! :grouphug:

One last thing... never be sorry for a long post--they're the best!



Zachary's Mom--Aww, hon... so sorry to hear about AF. :protest: She's such a royal pain in the a$$! She's come to visit me, as well.... grrrr! On the bright side, looks like we're AF buddies! I would also like to let you know that you don't sound selfish at all--not even in the slightest bit! I've experienced 4 m/c's myself... but they were all pretty early losses.... not that it makes it less devastating, but I just couldn't imagine the pain and feeling of loss at almost 36 weeks! Nobody deserves to suffer a loss such as any of us have... the self-anger/hate.... it's all completely normal... it will get better, I promise! Just try hard to remember that it's not your fault, tho, so please don't beat yourself up over it! :hug:



mumstheword--I would assume that if FF says your LP is 11 days, you should get an accurate result on 11PDO.... when does FF say you should test? Hope your TWW ends with a BFP! *fingers crossed!*

Hey smi! Hope you're having a great weekend and enjoying your early Christmas present! :stickyvibesgirl:



mollycat--Hey, mate! I enjoyed our chat on Fri.--it's been so long since we all happened to be there at the same time!!



Toccara--Hey, hon... how's it going? Miss hearing from you, and I hope you're doing ok--I think about you all the time! *hugs*



issy, Megsmum, & Tam-- Sending lots of bellyrubs and :stickyvibesgirl:



Easha--Hey you! Hope things are well with you! :hug:



Ruthie--Thinking of you, as well... hope things worked out for your DH, and he was able to find some work. You're in my prayers! *hugs*



MO3B--Got your card on Friday! Love the postcard you put inside--what a great idea! I wish I would've thought to do that, too! And the poem inside.... :hug: Thanks so much! I completely feel the same way! *kiss*



tempus--Big :hug: for you, hon.... been thinking about you a lot. Hope you're doing ok.



jenushka--Love little Bean's new pic! I'm so happy for you, hon! *hugs*



Krystie, fifi, plc, Angel, mollycat--Had such a great day Friday after our chat! It's a great way to start the day! Love you all lots! :grouphug: *kisses*



tutmae--Hey stranger! How's that little baby girl growing? Sending lots of :bellyrubs: Miss you, girl!



tina, pbstar, joey, larz, Rachel S, & Leyza--:stickyvibesgirl: and lots of bellyrubs!!!

Jen - I only have the version of FF and as a far as I know it doesnt tell you when to test

mumstheword - You need to be a VIP member on FF before it will tell you when you can test. I used to be a VIP member but have let it run out as I have stopped charting for the time being. Trying to forget about things in the hope it will happen when we least expect it :)

Jen - Yeah, I thought 'soul destroying' was a perfect way to describe it. I love our FS, he is so compassionae and understands how we feel. Glad to hear you do manage to get some sleep and that you got your slice of pizza - well deserved!

smi - How are you doing? I haven't got my lupus results yet but if I do have it seeing your BFP has made me feel so much better and given me hope. :)

HannahD - Hope you're enjoying having your guests, at least it might keep you busy. I try to keep busy these days so I don't 'dwell' on things. Not that there is anything wrong with having those moments! I find the hardest time is when I am driving to work by myself and I have too much time to think!

Ruthie - How is everything going? I hope DH has managed to find some work. Thinking of you both. :hug:

Mannie & Toccara - Hope you are both taking the time to heal . :comfort:

Issy, Megsmum & Tam83 - *stickybvibes*

Zachary's mum (Theresa) - How are you feeling today? I hope that some of the fog has started to lift. Remember to take all the time you need to heal. We are all here whenever you need us. :hug:

:hello: to anyone else who may be lurking.

AFM - Went out to lunch today with my parents and also the in laws to celebrate Christmas. They all get on really well which is nice. Feeling very emotional this weekend and not coping too well. Tried to put on a brave face all through lunch. Then a woman walked in holding a newborn and I just felt such an ache and the tears welled up, luckily I had my sunglasses on so no-one could see.

I hate that I am like this at the moment, it isn't me. I am usually such a happy, easy going person and would never feel jealous or bitter towards anyone under normal circumstances. I know I have to let myself feel what I need to I do but I don't have to like it! :protest:

Anyway that's enough of a whinge from me!

Babydust & Stickyvibes to everyone!

Hello all,
Thinking of you and and thanking you for all your kind words and thoughts. Well, my Dr was very nice on Friday, very sympathetic, and gave me an immediate refferal to a guy who he believes to be good, so we'll see what happens. I tried to make an appointment on Friday, but too much to expect for a specialists office to be open on a Fri afternoon ;)
So we will see...
Have thrown myself into Christmas prep to forget what has been happening, DH has been wonderful and so have all your thoughts. Thinking of you all, and think it is pretty sucky that any of us have to go through this. I'm going to be pretty quiet for a bit I think, gone from angry to sad now, and need to get to the place where I can say 'third time lucky' and start looking forward again. Maybe after seeing the FS.
Take care all,:grouphug::stickyvibesgirl::loveshower:
Indy

Can I please join?

We are TTC our first baby after a missed miscarriage early October this year (we were due mid-March 09). This is our second cycle and I'm 2 DPO... I'm finding TTC after our loss so difficult and different. I feel like I'm merely existing until I am pregnant again and I feel like it's going to be forever until we're holding our baby in our arms.

Hi Maternal Bride - I am so sorry for your loss. As much as I wish you didn't have to be here we welcome everyone and hope we can offer hope and support on your TTC journey.

You will find the ladies here are just wonderful. I only joined in October and I am not sure how I would've gotten through the last couple of months without all of them and my fantastic DH of course.

Every one of us on this thread understands what you have been and are going through and I think (and hope) you will find it comforting to be able to share your fears and feelings throughout your TTC journey.

Best of luck and I hope your stay here is short. :)

Thank you so much. I really hope that I can help in some small way too.

I'll just share a snapshot of my story - I was 13.5 weeks when I found out we had lost our son (he had passed away around 11.5 weeks) but my body had continued to grow and my placenta and amniotic fluid was as if I was still 13.5 weeks pregnant. I waited to miscarry naturally and birthed his body intact within his membranes after an 8 hour labouring process (I birthed the placenta an hour later which was the hardest part). He was tiny and perfect and it was so difficult (both physically and emotionally) but the most beautiful ending to a heartbreaking situation. We miscarried the day after our wedding (hence the name Maternal Bride) when I would have been 16.5 weeks.

Everyone seems so lovely and I look forward to getting to know you all better but hope we're all out of here sooner rather than later. Although I wish we weren't in this situation, I feel really lucky to have people who understand how hard TTC after loss can be to share this with.

I'm due to test on Christmas Day so I really hope we get good news.

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I feel like I'm merely existing until I am pregnant again and I feel like it's going to be forever until we're holding our baby in our arms.

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I remember that feeling very much - of merely existing until pg again - and that is an excellent way of describing it. Honey, it wasn't forever until I conceived again and I sure do wish the same for you. Big hugs hun - u found the wonderful girls in here and ul get thru this.

Welcome Maternal bride. This is a wonderful forum with some amazing people. We are TTC and it feels like it will never happen.I lost my baby boy at 35 weeks and 5 days - it willl be 5 months on Christmas Eve - it feels like yesterday and I struggle daily with his loss. I hope you find some comfort here.

Mel1979 - I have been okay today. I think I lost 1kg doing housework and sweating in this heat and humidity - that's the Gold Coast for you. The tonight I went to pieces again. I just sobbed and sobbed at not being able to hold my boy and celebrate Christmas. I never quite realised this would be so hard.

jen805 - thanks for your support. I am not coping very well at the moment and I feel like I have taken a few steps backwards. I just wish it didn't hurt so much...

Take care everyone xxxx

mumsthe word...thank you! We feel so blessed! I've got my fingers crossed for your TWW

jen...Hey Gurlie! It still feels so very surreal to me...my only symptoms are no AF and peeing around the clock...I wish for m/s and sore boobs! LOL...seriously

Mel...I am praying for your sake the Lupus results are in your favor...I am happy to oblige hope anytime *wink* I actually had no problems getting or staying pregnant until the last 5 or 6 years...maybe because I'm older...

Alrighty ladies I am about to lie down and watch some football...enjoy your day!

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:bluedust::pink-babydust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
:bluesperm::pinksperm:

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I remember that feeling very much - of merely existing until pg again - and that is an excellent way of describing it. Honey, it wasn't forever until I conceived again and I sure do wish the same for you. Big hugs hun - u found the wonderful girls in here and ul get thru this.

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Thank you hun... I know it won't be forever but the days are so slow and it's so frustrating living in two week increments.

Zachary's Mum - I am sorry for your heartbreak :comfort: PLC has summed everything up so well. And looking at her ticker is a great help to me.

Maternal Bride - :welcome: What a difficult time you have had. From the elation of your wedding day to the loss of your child. You are very strong and brave to have given birth naturally like that. I hope we can help you here and look forward to seeing a BFP in your signature sometime soon.

Mel - I know exactly how you feel. Everywhere I go I see lovely big bellies or hear a newborn crying. There is just no escaping it. I just tell myself it will be my turn again soon. Can't wait for the stretchmarks, backache and MS!

Indy - look after yourself. Understand you needing some time out. Hope you have a lovely Christmas :hug:

MumsTheWord - I have had a positive BT as early as 9dpo and HPT as early as 12/13 dpo (verrrrry faint). In the latter the test was mean't to be very sensitive at 25 units, yet the BT that day revealed I was something like 131! Problem I have found with FF is that for the first couple of cycles it makes you test late at something like 18 dpo until it understands your cycle. Have you been using FF for long?

Jen - Glad you got the pizza. Perhaps see if dropping my name will get you in the movies for free next time? :rofl: BTW I voted for my favourite mod today. But if there was a category for "prettiest and most thoughtful and inclusive posts" you would get my vote ;)

Smi and PLC - :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:

AFM - I cannot believe the weekend is already over but have certainly worked off a kilo or two. After three months of IVF, I almost forgot the way that regular people made babies. But it all came back to me... :redface:

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Welcome Maternal bride. This is a wonderful forum with some amazing people. We are TTC and it feels like it will never happen.I lost my baby boy at 35 weeks and 5 days - it willl be 5 months on Christmas Eve - it feels like yesterday and I struggle daily with his loss. I hope you find some comfort here.

Mel1979 - I have been okay today. I think I lost 1kg doing housework and sweating in this heat and humidity - that's the Gold Coast for you. The tonight I went to pieces again. I just sobbed and sobbed at not being able to hold my boy and celebrate Christmas. I never quite realised this would be so hard.

jen805 - thanks for your support. I am not coping very well at the moment and I feel like I have taken a few steps backwards. I just wish it didn't hurt so much...

Take care everyone xxxx

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So much love your way. Allow yourself to feel every emotion. Embrace it and cope with each feeling as it comes. It may hurt but it's so valid and real and raw and you are completely allowed to feel the way you are. There's no such thing as steps backwards in grief... it's not logical like that. Each step, whatever that may be, is a step forward - even if you feel like you're going around in circles. :grouphug:

I'm :pray: that you get some positive news soon.

Thank you "where's the hope" :D

I completely understand what you are all talking about with seeing bellies and new borns at every turn. I get so overwhelmed sometimes and wish I was like everyone else - unaffected by it all. I try to think that some of them could've been through a lot to get to that point and that is somewhat comforting. But it still hurts and it's still hard.

Theresa - Thankyou. I hope you have some good new soon too. :hug:

mumstheword - Hope you get your BFP! :noaf:

jen - :hello:

Mel - Seems like you could do with a :hug: Hope you're feeling a little better today darlin'.

Indy - Hope you get some answers from the FS. In the meantime, enjoy Christmas. :hug:

maternalbride - :welcome: I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't know how I would have gotten through the last few months without the women here. We offer nothing but support and love through your TTC journey - may it be short. Hoping your get a great Christmas present!

WTH - Hoping you caught that eggie! :bluedust:

For everyone not mentioned :grouphug:. Hope you all had a great weekend.

Hi everyone

Just a quick one for me. Wanted to say thank you for all the engagement congratulations. I must admit it has been nice to have something else to focus on and take my mind of TTC at least for a portion of the time. Well today is the day - frostie transfer number two is happening this afternoon, so in about one hour I am off for acupuncture, then to clinic for transfer and then back for acupuncture. My pregnancy test is schedule for christmas eve - wow wouldn't that be a wonderful christmas present if it is positive. I guess a consolation if it is not is that I will be able to have a glass or two of alcohol over christmas and new year (although I would be most happy to be absteining if my dreams come true and I get a BFP).:crossfingers: Sorry for lurking and not posting in last week - have been busy with wedding plans - can you believe that we only got engaged three weeks ago and i have already booked reception, ceremony, music for reception, and got my wedding dress - and we are meeting with celebrant tomorrow - not bad hey!

:welcome: maternalbride (so sorry for your loss - your story is heart breaking)

Smi - congratulations - such wonderful news for you for an early christmas present. Wishing you the best of luck for a happy healthy pregnancy :clap::happyforyou:

Sorry for lack of other persies - but :hug::hello: to WTH, Jen, Possums, Mumstheword, zacharysmum, indy, mannie, ruthie, hannah, plc, mel, fificlaire, tempus, polly, issy, megsmum, tam, mollycat, toccara, and anyone else I have missed :grouphug:

Happy Monday Gurlies!

Weekend was nice...

WTH...:fertilise: Hope your weekend was productive *wink*

babymiracles...:pray: for your BFP in Christmas Eve...have fun wedding planning!

MaternalBride...so sorry you have found yourself here...you will find nothing but the best support from the wonderful ladies here...they have all been Godsend to me...

jen...*wavin* you ready for Christmas yet?

Paula...THANK YOU!!! Getting your card brought a bright smile to my face...I never got any addresses back so I didn't get to send any out :redface: BUT I have yours for next time around.

Alrighty ladies time for me to get my day started...

:bluedust::pink-babydust:
:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

COLOR="Purple"]maternalbride [/COLOR] :welcome: So sorry for you loss. You will find this thread will save your sanity. The ladies in here are wonderful especially Jen. I hope that the pain eases with everyday and that you get your miricale without anymore heartache.

Jen Hello I dont know how you find time to write your lovely posts you are so kind you always mention everyone, you are very thoughtful. Hope you enjoyed your pizza.

WTH Hi I hope you caught your :egg: and that you get a wonderful christmas present.

Zachary's Mom I know what you mean about those ugly cries I try to do them when hubby isn't home cause I dont want to scare him although he is very supportive. Dont be to hard on yourself I cant imagine how you must feel. Time does heal though so as slow as the days go just let them keep passing by :comfort:

Babymiricales I have my :crossfingers: and pray that you get a wonderful suprise on christmas.

smilanatu I hope all is going well sending you lots of sticky vibes. I know what you mean about pg symptoms. I am freaking out cause I dont have any either.

Mel79 I know what you mean about seeing heavily pg people and new borns it rips my heart out to. My best friend was pg the same time as me my first m/c and now she has a beautiful little girl we were only a week apart. Everytime I look at her little girl I feel so empty. I hope that you have a little miricale to hold in your arms soon.

To everyone else I have missed sorry.

AFM: Well still dont have any symptoms and starting to get a little worried. Spoke to the FS and he has booked me in for a u/s on Thursday but it's so far away. I am so worried I dont know if I am going to be able to handle bad news again not for the third time. I cant stop crying now just thinking about it :cry:

Issy02: I'm glad you found some relief with mediation. The stress level of ttc is indescribable.

jen805: Our school has a Secret Santa Shop, too, and the kids love it

Indy: :goodluck: with your referral--hopefully you get better results next time around. Sending cyberhug and :pray:

WTH: not sure about the breakthrough bleeding and egg quality. But that's a good question..."worked off a kilo" :lol:

HannahD: hope you had a nice visit with your family

Mannie2903: you're not a freak. not at all. Sending cyberhug

Mel1979: Sending cyberhug. Nobody here judges you for twinges of jealousy. It's perfectly normal. It sounds like you have a plan in place with your FS, with testing and all. Of course, IVF holds no guarantees (nothing does, I guess). :goodluck: and :pray:

Zachary's Mom: Aww, you sound so discouraged...sending cyberhug

mumstheword: Thank you for your kind thoughts. Just below the ribs sounds to high up for mittleschmertz. As for LP, I would advise you to test 14dpo. But also your phase is so short, you may want to check with your doc. Mine put me on progesterone for short LP.

MaternalBride: I'm so sorry for your loss. Sending cyberhug and keeping you in my prayers.

Tam83:pray: very hard for you

A quickie before going home to Tam...:pray: very hard for you and bub!

:stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Time for a fresh start in a new thread ladies. :)