Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss ~ July 2010

Iona- How were feeling today?? still queasy??

Forshelby- That old woman that u work with sounds absolutely disgusting!!! eating fish in an office! haha u poor thing. Yeah i think u shld be appreciating the fact that she is always 'sick' so u dont have to put up with her awful ways. U just wonder how those type of ppl were raised.. they mustn have been taught to do the basic things like cover ur mouth when coughing etc. i hope she doesnt have kids.. i can just imagine them!
Hope ur alright tonight.. pls think positively.. its all going to be fine xxx

MsKara- So have u had any m/s yet?? when are u going to see dr to see about having a scan??

Kezzy- Oh i hope it is implantation bleeding. Maybe just wait and see what happens over the next few days.. if af does come early then its probably a good idea to see someone to try and find out what ur hormone levels are doing. Theres nothing worse then spotting for days leading up to af. Let us know how u go.

Matthews mum- Come on af! Do u know if u have Oed yet?? Hope so cos that means af will be here soon for u. FX! With the cycle being cancelled are u or have u given it a go naturally this month.. i know i wldnt be able to miss a chance!

Bons- Will u test early or wait til af is late? i really hope this is ur month. Im the same as u if im not pg this cycle im gonna get right into the macca and a few other things. Might even give acupunture a go. Desperate times call for desperate measures! Sorry to hear ur holiday wasnt that good.. did ur dh kinda sort it out with his mum before u guys left?? Were u stuck in the middle of it all?? Its awful when that happens.

Damprye- I hope u get that +ive opk soon. It must be very frustrating for u. So are u trying this month or still leaving it a little while?

Loops- U poor thing having to go to party..that wld have been a bit sad and painful.. good on u for having the courage to go tho. I too think its too early for the test to be right.. i have read on here so many times of ladies not getting bfp until day af is due to come. Will u be testing again or just wait and see? My fingers are crossed for u.

Clairesmummy- This is a tough journey isnt it :( Im glad u had a good weekend tho. Please dont feel like a failure.. we WILL all get there soon. From what i have heard if it was a chemical pregnancy then u shld just treat it as a normal af bleed. And u shld O in roughly 2 weeks time. U probly dont need to go to drs unless af hangs around longer then usual. Kellbell has had one..maybe she is a good person to speak to as well about it all.

Minnie- That is very weird that the clomid worked perfectly for u and naturally didnt. From all the research i have done on clomid i have read it increases ur chance of m/c.. ur story has made me feel a bit better. Are u going to avoid bding around O time for the next few months??

Mum22- How are u going? Im hoping too O on sun, mon or tues.. any earlier ill be freaking out cos dh is away til friday! Yay for keeping eachother sane in the 2ww! well we can try anyway!

Possum- How are u going? Are u doing another hcg bt this week?

Mrs Macca- How are u going??

Hello to everyone else too!

AFM- I have been fine on the clomid up until now..emotions wise. Im not sure if i can even blame it for the downer mood im in today seeing as though i had the last pill yesterday. Im just so over all of this.. My EDD is approaching and with every passing day im getting filled with more and more despair. It just feels like it is never going to happen for us. I cant even imagine having a healthy pg anymore. I hate the fact that something so beautiful such as pregnancy has been so tarnished for me. One of dhs cousins broadcasted on facebook at 3 weeks that she was pg.. shes so so excited.. i bet the thought hasnt even entered her head of losing it... it makes me so incredibly jealous. Jealousy is a curse aint it?! I really do love that everyone else i know has such an easy ttc journey cos i wldnt wish this upon anyone but why cant i be everyone else??!!!
Sorry for this downer post (must be the day for it) I just feel as tho i really dont have the strength to get thru another af coming. im already dreading it. But i will ofcourse keep fighting cos theres nothing else in the world i want more then to be pregnant right now. :(

Oh and kellbell! I hope u caught that eggy!! FX!!!!! :) xxxx

Oh Reet!! :hug: I know exactly how you feel! Almost all of my friends have had it super easy when falling pg and none have had a m/c. I get so jealous sometimes!

It will happen for you! I just feel it in my bones! I won't say don't worry, because I know you will, but know that my thoughts are with you and I'm sending over positive thoughts.

Yes, I have had MS the last few days. It made me quite happy tbh lol. I felt like it was a really good sign.


Hope everyone else is ok. I will come back tomorrow and do persies. I'm exhausted and about to try to sleep away my concerns. Today I've had brown spotting that I'm really hoping is just old blood and nothing to worry about, but I'm now slowly starting to worry.

Oh thanku MsKara :hug: I think im also feeling sad cos dh left this morning.. im not overly sad that hes gone.. its only for 5 days but it just gets so lonely at home..makes u think way too much.

I hope YOUR ok! Are u going to go to the drs tomoro? Please do.. even if the brown bleeding stops.. just to be on the safe side. Get a scan done so u can see ur little bubba and tell it to behave and to keep sticking! They say brown blood is fine.. it cld just be around the time ur af wld be due.. I have heard that sometimes some of the lining that the embryo isnt attached to may still shed. Lets hope this is it. Try and get some sleep tonight. Let us know how u go tomoro.. will be checking in xxx

Reet: i was also told that clomid increases the chance of m/c but my experience is the complete opposite ! i hope this week goes quick for you and your dh is home before you know it to begin the bding :-) it will be condoms for us for a while

clairesmummy: my last 2 m/c were "chemical pregnancies", in both cases i got af a few days earlier than i expected and just thought it was af then but i bled for a longer than usual for af and had preg symptoms, the 1st one was like yours the hpt line just went and the 2nd time it got darker a few days then went, i was ovulating normally after the first but my 2nd ones cycle was 66 days long ! you will usually find drs tend not to recognise chemical m/c as a "real" m/c because it didn't implant properly to begin with (sorry i hope this doesn't sound harsh, mine sure were real to me !)

forshelby: that is good news about your scan, honestly i wouldn't worry about the small size, it is so tiny at this stage it is hard for them to measure from one end to the other, you have a heartbeat, thats the most important thing

mskara: i hope you are feeling better this morning, i hope you woke up to nausea and no more brown spotting

hi to everyone else

afm: no news here, just plodding along

Reet, YOU WILL BE PREGGERS BEFORE YOU KNOW IT!!!!!! I just reckon this month will be your month!!! And I hope O doesnt come early and surprise you while DH away. Maybe barricade the doors to make sure AF can't get in until DH returns??? :)
Yes, here's to the TWW coming up Reet, yay (not) I really do hate the two week wait!!! I hate the whole deciphering signs your body is giving you as to whether BFP or not and then the rude shock of AF's unwanted arrival. But I am going to continue to stay positive and say that is not going to happen this month (to any of us).

Clairesmummy, that was me with the chemical pregnancy. I had a positive on the day I started bleeding (6DPO) and a couple of days later it was gone. Tho the second I started bleeding I thought it was Af (just come off pill...so wasn't sure but 6DPO had me confused) did a test at Dr First recponse and it came up really barely there positive. Bleeding was mega heavy so I just knew all was not well. And it was the heaviest period I have had on or off the pill. Off the pill my Af tends to last around 3 days with first day being light/medium second being medium/heavy, third light/medium and a little spotting on the 4th day which is barely noticeable. Well, I was in for the shock of my life AF wise with this one, no clots of anything.....day1 heavy, day2 heavy, day3 heavy, day4heavy-medium day5 medium day6medium then light in the afternoon day 7spotting. A little bit different!!! Sorry if TMI. I also found I had Af style cramps the whole time which were noticeable (I dont usually get them) I felt angry and emotional for most of it (not about the m/c just about bloody everything...general PMS).

I had nausea as a preg symptom right up to the start of AF, though as the bleeding started on day 1 the nausea began to subside and by day 3 it was completely gone (one positive of the whole experience as it was driving me nutty).

Oh gosh I hope that this isn't TMI.

How are you feeling today? Hope you are feeling okay!!

Sorry to everyone, I went to bed mighty early last night, was completely stuffed!!

Hi everyone!

sorry I haven't posted in here in a while - my goodness, I had to go through 3 threads to get here! You are a chatty bunch :)

There's lots of new names and I hope you'll forgive me for not reading all your posts since my last visit. Wishing you all the best in this TTC business and hoping for BFPs for everyone soon.

Firstly, MurrayCod! Great news about your scan - congratulations lovely you can rest easy now and enjoy the rest of your pg. Hope we get to see you around a bit more x

Foreshelby - did I miss your announcement? Congratulations on your pg and hoping that by the next scan you get a bit more reassurance that this one is for keeps. I think MurrayCod felt the same until her 12 week scan so hang in there and all the best to you.

MsKara - congrats to you too and I hope you have a happy & healthy pg. Nice that you and Foreshelby are the same way along so you have a bellybuddy here who understands what you've been through.

Dory 31 weeks! That's great news - you are so close to bringing your baby home it is wonderful. Glad you've got a bit more energy too - all the best x

Reet - you're always so generous with your thoughts and comments for everyone I hope you get your BFP soon, I know it's been a hard road for you and a real struggle at times but you can do it. Patience and perseverance will get you there in the end, I promise. I know your EDD is approaching too - it's going to be a tough time but hopefully some peace will come with it to and I hope your BFP isn't far away now.

Loops - I'm sorry you got a BFN :( I know the feeling of being the only one childless at a birthday party full of friends your own age, it's really difficult - but don't forget how much those friends love you and how happy they'd be if you got your BFP. Are you still planning on doing IVF later in the year? Where are you up to with that?

Bons - hello lovely how are things with you? Catching eggs I hope! Glad your DH was on your side with the in-laws - you must be happy to be home. Hope this month is for you.

I know I've missed lots of you and I'm sorry but need to go back and catch up a bit.

AFM well we are getting ready to start IVF #5. August is our ten year anniversary for TTC and the EDD of our December angel so it's going to be a tough one. I'm trying not to think about it too much - just concentrating on our next cycle and being well. Sticking to the diet which is going well, doing acupuncture every week and taking my herbs so I know I'm giving it my best shot. As much as I hate to say it, I think this is our last shot at it. I'll be 42 later in the year and I have to just accept that it wasn't meant to be if this cycle doesn't work, as much as it breaks my heart. To be honest I've been through so much grief in the past 10 years that it isn't as raw as it used to be. All those horrible situations, you get through them somehow and you remember getting through them so you know in your heart that time will make things easier to bear. Who knows how our children will come to us - I feel they are near us so maybe they will come some other way. Anyway, trying to stay positive without getting too excited.

Love to everyone and :babydust: to you all x

sorry haven't been around much mostly lurking - fingers crossed for everyone this month hope theres a whole bunch more BFP's in here soon

thanks Reet for thinking of me you are so sweet - it means alot to me
i think everyone i know has announced a pregnancy on facebook this week - some so early cant be more than 3 or 4 weeks all that innocence is lost for me that makes me jealous too that they wouldn't even think for a second that it could all go wrong. i want to be back in that space. how is possible nearly everyone i know is pregnant and seem to have it so easy :wall:

yep i had a chemical preg got two days of BFPs then it dissapeared went to the docs but didn't have any hcg left - he said it happens alot just because i tested so early i knew. AF just comes a bit late mine took an extra week then my cycles have continued. i wont test that early again as i think id rather not know. esp as we were all excited for two days then so dissapointed. i try to think of it as a gift to know we can do it just wasnt the sticky one that we are waiting for

been trying not to think too much about ttc this month no OPK's, temping just BD every second day
have no preg tests in the house either so hoping to hold strong and wait for AF to come or not come

better get moving today and get something done while the munckin is asleep

ill try and post more and catch up on everyone later

Oh Alice just saw your post - hope you get the bubba you deserve and this IVF is successful FX
lots of :bluedust: for you

Reet Thank you :) I'm sure 5 days will be over before you know it!! At the moment I'm in complete freak out mode with a very calm exterior, but I'll get to that later ;)

minnie I hate it when drs are so harsh like that. They were real to us too hun.

Mum FX that you catch your egg this time! Here's to your TWW (as horrible as they are lol)

Alice Sending lots of :pink-babydust: :bluedust: your way!!

kellbell Sending :bluedust: :pink-babydust: to you as well! Here's to BFP's for all in July and August!

AFM I had very little spotting this morning, but decided to see my GP and ask for a scan. She took my blood pressure, which was way too high (i've been on meds for this for about a month now) and scheduled me in for an urgent u/s this afternoon. She said even if everything is fine, she wants me to go to the hospital anyway, so I just don't know what to think right now!

I'm hoping this just an early chance for me to see the little basmati. DH is at work and can't get home, so I'm having a mental freakin out but trying to convince him I'm fine lol... *sigh*

MsKara, thanks am CD8 today woooopeeee.

Spotting could be nothing so dont stress unless you have to. I spotted til 20 weeks with both my kids and it was bright red, pink, orange, brown goodness the list goes on and seriously my babies got to full term and even though by 36 weeks I was sooo completely over it and beckoned them to arrive early they bloody well didnt did they.....hmmmmmmm angry sigh.

Some people just spot or bleed. I have a friend who had AF arrive several times. Another friend who had a full on bleed at 15 weeks with clots and all and yep, everything was fine. Aometimes bleeding just cant be explained so I am hoping this is the case for you!!!! I am hoping this time I have no bleeding (not likely).

Not sure about the BP.....dont know what to say there. Sorry!!

Damprye - it was good to see bubs, yes.

Reet- I'm making an appt to see my doctor sometime this week. I got the measurements wrong, that was on the little polaroid she took for me, (she put a little doodad at each end to show bubby) but on the actual 'dating' pictures, the largest measurement was 0.67. So better. 'That awful woman' at work is back, and yes, I am wishing she would have stayed sick, and out of my way!! She doesn't have kids, she's far too self-involved to have ever bothered to meet a man and procreate. I feel nasty saying these things but she's just so horrible to me.... ugh. It's awful to feel like pregnancy is tarnished for you, I understand that feeling, but please try to stay strong. You can do this, and you will do this. EDD's are hard when there are no babies to distract yourself with. I'm here for you if you want to talk about it more. I too would be annoyed at the girl announcing her pg at 3wks. Ugh. Hugs for you, Reet. Keep fighting!!

Clairesmummy - So proud of your DD, that's great! I understand feeling like you might explode from the desire to be pg. Hoping you get your wish very very soon!

MsKara - I hope your trip to the hospital has a happy ending! Good luck with your u/s. I hope you see a healthy hb. Stick, little basmati! Belly rubs!

Minnie- Thanks for your encouragement, you've helped me to feel more positive that this little one will stick around.

Mum22 - You're right, this IS reet's month. I hope it's everyone's month, really. But I just have a special feeling about Reet right now! Hope you're doing well. Where are you in your cycle?

Alice - Thanks for your kind words. I think it might be wise for me to speak to Kit and Murray about their early pg experiences. I think they can give me some real hope. Best of luck for your last IVF... i really hope you get the children you desire. You seem like such a gentle lovely woman, I hope it happens for you, somehow. Perhaps adoption will be the next option? You're so strong to be so accepting of the path you're on. I have my FX for you, hun.

Kellbell - what a great attitude. I told myself when I had my mc 'I know I can get pg'. That was slightly comforting, but it still doesn't take away the feelings of life being unfair. You're doing so well. Your ttc plan sounds great! You'll be bd'ing more than I did in my bfp cycle, lol.. so I think you're onto a winner!

AFM, went home sick today after spending half the morning with my head in a toilet bowl. Lovely. I think the fact that it's not just MY toilet made me even sicker! Eww... I'm reliving it now. Anyway, feeling a bit better being at home and snuggled up in my dressing gown. It didn't help that one of my co-workers is having a rough time, and long story short, was very rude to me for no reason at all. So being the hormonal mess I am, I got all upset, cried, threw up, cried some more, and ultimately went home. I was starting to feel all stressed out and I thought... Nuts to this. I'm going home with my little bean and resting. The boss was understanding, although I didn't tell him about my co-worker's aggressive attitude. So not up for a heart to heart today. It doesn't help that he doesn't listen, or actually DO anything about these 'people'. Oh, and I guess that was my first official bout of morning sickness type throwing up! HOORAY!!! LOL. I genuinely felt better after each go, too. And here I've been holding it back. From now on I will unleash as neccesary. (sorry for TMI!)

Looking forward to my career change, (as a friend calls it, LOL) from punching bag, to MUMMY! :)

Stay well, ladies.

Alice - oh my sweet - it is going to be tough... IVF and an angel versary and a TCC anniversary. You are the most amazing woman, and I admire and respect you. Thank you for remembering me. I was thinking about you the other day and was hoping you'd post soon. I am hoping the IVF cycle is a winner for you and DH. Everyone has a different "age" that is their cut off... you will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Kellbell - sorry about your hopes being dashed.... and having a less than sensitive response from the Dr. It's a fine balance between acknowledging your pregnancy and giving some medical information. Some just don't get it right and I think some just don't even try. I know it's hard when those around you seem to achieve something you hope for so badly. I have to say, despite all my heartache, I still announced this BFP early to those people that I trusted for support. For me it wasn't niavety but rather a conscious decision to embrace and enjoy this for as long as I was blessed to have a bfp, and try to make it as "normal" as possible. My view is that those of us who have suffered such heartache need even more support than those who haven't, especially in those early days. For them, it could just be niavety and lack of understanding of your journey. But really at the end of the day, it's you that has to work your way through those feelings. Hope you're going ok with that, it's not easy.

Reet - hiya my friend.

Forshelby - good work on going home. Sorry the m/s is rough and your co worker is insensitive. I was a weeping mess yesterday and was just so grateful I could just cocoon myself at home and not have to deal with the world.

Hiya to everyone else..... sorry if I have mentioned you by name... I am gradually cutting back on my time in the tcc threads, even though I still think of you often. I'll still lurk of course. Take care.

Ms Kara - try not to worry ( I know mission impossible) but I am glad you're following it up with a scan. Hopefully your blood pressure comes down too. Thinking of you....

MsKara- What time is ur scan?? Am thinking of u. Almost certain that u will be back here tonight saying that everything is fine! :) Good luck xxx

Mum22 and forshelby- Thanku for being so positive that this is my month.. i wish i felt the same! I really hope ur right.. but lets make it all our months instead! :)

Forshelby- Oh u poor thing being so sick! Its always better when u can be at home hey.. just being able to snuggle up and watch tv makes everything feel better. And yeah a little gross bout having to use the work toilet.. its ok if ur drunk vomiting (luckily something i havent done since i was 15) u dont think about it then.. lets just hope it was kinda clean! Did u have much for breakfast this morning?? was there much to bring up?? haha maybe thats TMI!! Now just relax today and know that ur little baby is doing perfectly. xx

Kellbell- Excellent that ur bding every 2 days.. has it become routine or do u still make it a bit saucy?? ;) Without doing opks or temping have u noticed any changes with ur body urself..like ur cm or cramping etc.. which cld be linked to Oing?? I wish my body wld give me better signs. So do u think this laid back approach is a bit more stress free and the 2ww will be a bit easier?? Or is ur mind still obsessing over it all like mine constantly is..??

Hi Minnie :)

Alice- Lovely to see u in here altho i am always checking the other thread to keep up to date with how all u ladies are going :) I honestly dont know how u have done it..10 yrs is such a long time. U and ur dh must have the strongest relationship ever. I think having that angel bub is just a sign not to give up and like u said ur babies will come to u. Especially since u had gone so long with nothing happening and then to fall pg it means there is some hope. The world works in some mysterious ways... absolutely frustrating at times too! I really really hope this next ivf cycle works.. we will be all waiting in anticipation to see that bfp! Just curious have u ever looked into adoption or surrogacy?? I have heard its almost impossible to adopt a child from australia.. which i find absolutely ridiculous! I had joked with my SIL for ages that she wld be our surrogate mother.. shes one of these ppl that all she has to say is shes ready for a baby and bang next month pg! Only 30 yrs old but 5 kids later she has just had her tubes tied.. so there goes my surrogacy plan! altho im hoping i dont ever have to think seriously about it.

Dory- Yay for ur upcoming scan (i cld have read that in a different thread) So glad that u can finally be really excited about it. U defintely deserve that happiness. xx

Hello everyone else too! :)

AFM- I just went to the chemist and bought some evening primrose oil.. have heard it increases ur ewcm around O time which makes ur chance of the spermies meeting the egg a lot higher! It also helps to balance out ur hormones.. whcih i think i need.. still having a bit of pink and brown spotting which is very bizzare. Hoping that its all gone in a few days ready for O time!
I finally have something to look forward too.. we are planning a week long camping trip for our 1 yr anniversary on sep 2nd.. and it will kinda coincide with our angel babies edd.. so it will be nice to get away and spend some time together. And then in Nov we are going to darwin for FILs 50th bday party and then possibly onto Bali.. i dont really want to go to bali if im pg tho incase i get bali belly and cant stop vomiting etc or something else happens.. Cant continuously plan my life around what ifs tho.. or we wont end up doing anything!!

Hope everyone is well xx

What wld i do without u guys on my days off!! haha i wld be so bored!! :)

Reet - it is so hard isn't it?.... to plan to do the right thing but then like you said you'd end up doing nothing. Go on your trip, but get travel insurance that will allow you to cancel for pregnancy or medical reasons ( I am sure your Dr could write a note indicating they don't recommend international travel to give to the insurer).... lots of women get gastro during pregnnacy and their bubs is ok. And if you take precautions whilst over there, you'll minimise the risk. No guarantees of course. Besides, you might be like Bermuda Girl and have this nice idyllic holiday with lots of saucy BD'ing and end up with your BFP ( although I am hoping you get it much sooner than Nov). Some of my fondest memories are of doing stuff whilst pregnant - surfing ( very gently) and going to Sydney are some highlights... and even though bubs isn't here, I have those memories of stuff we did do and did enjoy, and it would be sad to have missed out on that. I mean part of the reason I presume that you and DH are on the TTC rollercoaster is how you feel about each other - so go nuture yourself and your darling DH with a lovely holiday, but have a back up plan, just in case.

Kezzy ~ Hope its implantation spotting, FX! Thanks. I feel like claiming someone elses too sometimes LOL.
Matthewsmum ~ thanks heaps hun. I am pretty proud of myself for going and socialising and enjoying my friends sons 1st bday. GL and FX you get a BFP very very soon. Are you still doing FET soon?
Forshelby ~ I can appreciate you'd be concerned - hoping your mind can be eased very soon. FX that bub is just small and that he/she continues to stick and grow! Thank you - usually im ok at parties with pregnant women and babies but this one there were just heaps. Unfortunately im pretty sure AF is here now as getting heavier.
Clairesmummy ~ Im very sorry and feeling for you :comfort: You and your DF will get there, never give up! Best wishes

Reet ~ thanks hun, it was very hard but my friend was so happy I came. Esp since her best friend who is also my best friend didnt come. Probably because she has had m/c then she got pg again and found out after splitting up with her near fiance and had an abortion. She didnt give any explanation as to why she wasnt going to the party. I understand everyone is diff and maybe she thought she wouldnt be able to cope but I think thats why my friend appreciated us going as she knew it wouldve been hard but we still went.
As above pretty sure AF is here so dont think i'll be needing to test again. Big hugs hun, must be very hard. I feel exactly the same - why can't we be like the ones that can get pg easily and dont have m/c's.

MsKara ~ Really hoping its old blood, FX. Hope everything turns out ok and they can get your BP down.
Mum22 ~ Love your attitude, GL hun.

Alice ~ Thanks hun. I didnt know many people at the party which I think made it harder. But my friend was very happy we went so I felt proud. Really feeling for you :hug: Will :pray: you get your long awaited and highly deserved BFP very very soon. Are you doing IVF cycle soon?

Kellbell ~ Im the same at the moment - so many I know are pg or already have bubs/young kids. Sorry about your chem preg :hug: Enjoy the bd'ing.
Dory ~ Hi and all the best, hope to see you around from time to time

Hi to everyone else, hope you are all well xo
AFM ~ AF here, light at the moment but getting heavier I think (sorry TMI). At least 1 positive is that it is smack bang on time. 1st cycle AF has some on time since m/c in March/April.

Loops did I read your signature right that you are due to have IVF in October this year? I"m not real good with all the signatures.
Well the start of another cycle for you too!! I hate AF!!! I hope you have luck this new month and hope AF goes away very quickly for you. Does that make you CD1 or are you further?

Reet, have you tried preseed. I stand by it, it is sperm friendly. Buffy is going to give it a go this month as well!! I hope it gets her a BFP!! It's a really watery sort of lube I guess and comes with applicators to apply it with. I got preggers first time last preg with it and also this time (tho it didnt take). Also, silly as it may sound a few of my friends and I stand by lifting your legs up after BD to help the swimmers get to their destination. A couple of friends do handstands, or etc!!! Hmmm, probably sounds a little wacky?

Hi mum22 ~ yep that is correct, IVF/ICSI in Oct, I'll look forward to that. Yep AF sucks!! Probably not quite CD1 as I think they say usually your 1st full bleed day dont they, im really only spotting at the moment so Id say tomorrow will be CD1. And you, where are you at the moment?

I'm CD8 and counting!! Gosh I have a couple of friends who have gone down the IVF path (and had babies) but sheesh, it is soo very daunting and time consuming. I feel for you, and hope that you get a BFP this time around (if not sooner). Have you got to have eggs removed this time or do you still have embryos (or whatever they call them) frozen?

Loops I have re read this and I htought it may sound harsh I didnt mean for it to sound that way. I think IVF is great!!!! Not the way it sounds just wanted to make sure you knew this!!! :) IVF babies are miracles.

Dory - thanks, I think I made the right decision. How is the countdown to bubs going? Forgive me if I should know this, but do you know the sex??

Reet - I did have breakfast but it stayed down, miraculously. Only the large amounts of water I drank come up and a distinctly vitaminy taste. LOL... def. TMI there! Oh and the toilets are quite clean.. but still. It's the thought. Ew. Enjoy your travels later in the year, sounds like so much fun! I'm hoping to get to Melbourne to see DP's 91y.o grandma (only grandma I have now.. aww.) and spend some quality time, just DP and I.

Loops - I've decided that this new cycle is your bfp cycle. Ok? :) I have a creepy way of being right about this stuff.

Mum22- I too did the post-bd acrobatics. Seems it worked!! Though mine was more of a 'legs together, don't move or roll or cough'... bahaha.. I swear by it though. That and OPKS.

forshelby, alot of my close friends swear by it as well. The things we do!! Yep I love OPK tests they are great!!!

Hows toothpaste going forshelby?

AAAHHHH My Ticker is confusing me!!! 9 days until ovulation but a home test can work today WTF???

Alice - FX for this cycle Hun, I really hope this is it! Wouldnt it be cool to have 2 bubbas! xxx
Forshelby - Ahh toilets, even now they are the quickest way to make me sick! i hope your little bubs is nice and comfy in there now!
Matthewsmum - I hope the meds help this cycle and you have an emby getting cosy in no time xxx
Reet - Get planning your holiday! The sooner the better!!!
Dory - Im sooo looking forward to your birth announcement, I think i will cry!
Mum22, Mskara, clairesmummy, loops, kellbell, Dampyre and Minnie Big hugs and belly rubs xxx
AFM - Not sure if im having symptoms or if its the gastro....I had a quick 4 hour nap yesterday afternoon, have been wanting particular foods,and have had very generous amounts of white cm.....so not sure, I will have to wait and see if any or all stick around, Im going to try really hard not to test this month until im late.......:lol: who am i kidding Im going to have to get dh to hide the tests for that to happen, FX still for this month, DH is away all of next month, only weekend visits :shakehead:
xxxx

:doh::doh:Bons I'm so glad you said it cos your ticker has had me confused for days only I didnt say anything cos I was thinking maybe I had no idea and it was some sort of net talk or something?:rofl:

Seriously I have no idea half the time!!:think:

Hmmm... ok sorry for a me-ness post, but the results were not what I expected at all. I was expecting either a HB or a M/C, instead they've found the sac, yolk (i didn't know there was a yolk :o) and approximate age of only 6wks 1 day, plus a recommendation to go back in 1-2 weeks.

My question is... at 6wks, shouldn't there be a HB or something? I think I've lost hope here.

mskara - have you had bloods done as well?? not sure on the hb as i was told that they can't see a hb sometimes unless your hcg levels are over 10000. sending you heaps of hugs tho sweety

bons - when are you thinking of testing?? not sure if i have missed the post where you said when sending you heaps of bfp vibes

mum22 - let the bd bonanaza begin!!

dory - i can't believe how quick the weeks are ticking over (hope it feels that way for you sweety)

loops - hoping af is kind to you this month

forshelby - so glad that the m/s has kicked in for you - still none here

hi to everyone i have missed, and all the newbies (sorry to hear that you have joined us) really need to go back further

AFM - oh the tiredness got me today came home early from uni so I can go for a sleep plus still getting over this cold

mum22 - thanks for the info. it's just the wait that frustrates me and the fact that "spotting" can mean so many things. i tested last cycle when i had the spotting, a few days later at 11 DPO and got a BFN so i just assumed that was that. if this continues next month i will definately be having it checked out.

forshelby - i am thinking of you. it sounds like you are having a very confusing time with these scans. i hope that they soon have some news for you that puts your mind, and your heart at ease. keep faith. oh.. i just read about your ms, great news!! and its always better to throw up in your own toilet isnt it? unfortunately, not always possible!

clairesmummy - you are certainly no failure. listen to your dp, sometimes its hard because they always seem to be so positive when we are feeling so down inside, but they are right. it will happen when it happens, all we can do is try and pray.

reet - i am glad to hear that clomid isnt playing havoc on your emotions. as for the rest of your post, you touched me!! i could empathise with everything. when is your EDD? mine is aug 24th and i am crushed knowing that on my EDD i will not be preg again, i always hoped i would. the camping trip will be a nice "distraction"( i guess is the best word for it) for you, some together time away always helps. i too have the fb friends broadcasting early BFP's. but wow. 3 weeks. thats crazy. thats the difference with people who have never lost a baby. they will never understand the fear or the hurt. we will get there. stay strong.

alice - you're story bought me to tears. you are doing everything right by the sounds of it. i have everything crossed for you that you will get a BFP before you're 42nd birthday. its wonderful to know you are staying postive keep it up.

loops - congrats on the regular cycle. FX af has figured herself out!

bons - FX for your BFP!

AFM: wow! i need to come on and catch up more. that took forever! spotting is following the same pattern as last cycle, light for two days. then third day (today) heavier but still brown, so i think af is about 1 or 2 days away. i also tried the post bd legs-in-the-air. didnt work in my case and i felt ridiculous! dp thought it was hilarious!

Mum22 - I'm confused by the toothpaste remark.... am I having another baby brain episode? lol

MsKara- Try not to worry! I had to have an internal u/s as things are so small at 7wks, so I'm not surprised they couldn't make out a hb yet. It will come, please try to relax as best you can. The tech told me that the reason my bubby has a slightly lower one is because it's probably just kicking in. Hugs!!!

Iona - Oh yes, I know all about the tiredness. I wake up tired, and yawn ALL DAY LONG... much to the disdain of my coworkers. LOL. They keep telling me to stop yawning, it's making them tired, but I just can't help it!! And it is a good sign that ms has kicked in for me, a part of me wishes it would go away now.. haha. I'm over it after about a week of feeling bleh, and after today's vomiting episodes (SORRRYYYY TMI) I really hope it doesn't come back like that again! I never thought it would be so hard to handle accounting with a queasy stomach. It's so hard to focus on reconciliations when you just want to chuck!

Kezzy - Yes, it's sooo much better to throw up in your own toilet. Or preferably shower. Saves thinking about what's meant to go in that bowl.. lol. ew. Sorry about the spotting.. it must be hard. I've been lucky to never really experience it except during a mc. My body is kind to me, so I'm sending you some 'well behaved body' vibes, and bfp vibes to go with it! :)

AFM, I forgot to mention I decided to blow my cover today at work. So many people have busted me, or have found out through others (people gossip a lot apparently) I asked my old boss to make the announcement. I knew she'd be chuffed since she's so clucky herself. She loves babies, so I asked her to do the honours. :) Oh, and there was sooo much speculation going on, probably because I, the serial high-heel wearing, make-up clad, straightened hair and generally well groomed self have traded in the heels for flats, skimped on the makeup, and not done my hair in weeks. I was so busted.. lol. I went home before I could see if the email was circulated yet, so looking forward to checking my inbox tomorrow, and receiving the congratulations. After seeing a hb, I feel more confident, so I'm just going to go with it! If the worst happens, I'll need support, so I figure what the heck. But you know what? This is a super sticky bub, and we are bringing it home. (Thanks for the reassurance, Kit, you rock.)

Sleep tight everyone, and happy bd'ing to those approaching O! :)

Forshelby- When are u planning ur melbourne trip for?? before bubs or after bubs?? Love that ur positivity is back! Yes u are defintely going to be bringing this baby home :) do u think u will find out what ur having??

MsKara- Hopefully its just too soon to find the heartbeat.. i have heard plenty of times that in the early days they can mess up how far along u are quite easily. Have u had blood tests done?? I wld be asking to get one and then a couple days later get another one.. just to make sure levels are going up. I think the fact that they said bubba was 6 weeks old means that everything shld be ok.. when i lost my baby at 9 wks they said that it looked like it had stopped developing at 5 weeks old cos all they cld find was the sac.. they call it a blighted ovum. Could they see where the bleeding was coming from?? I reckon try and push for a scan for a weeks time rather then wait til 2 weeks (i hate waiting!) by then it wld have grown and shld defintely have a heartbeat. Are u still coping alright?? Is the bleeding getting worse or is it just still brown spotting occasionally? Thinking of u xxx

Kezzy- Its so nice to be going thru the same journey with other ppl that truly understand :) my EDD is 19th sept. And dont give up hope yet u cld be newly pg for ur EDD.. hopefully this is ur month! Isnt that pre af spotting so annoying! i got it for the first time this month.. its awful.. it makes af seem SO much longer!

Bons- I was going to say something bout ur ticker.. but noticed that a few other ppls had stuffed up too.. including mine.. i had to make a new one. Glad u have got it sorted!! :) ooooh ur symptoms do sound promising! hhmmm shld i egg u on to test early???! haha

Mum22- Where do u get preseed from?? i might have to get some! Does it make things way too 'wet' down there tho or is it just right?? We havent ever had to use lubrication and i cant stand that drenched feeling!! (TMI!!) :) And yep i am defintely into the acrobats after bding! i was only just telling everyone my antics last month! haha my dh knows to grab the pillow (or 2) straight away and jam it straight under my bottom! (which forshelby made me realise is actually quite gross haha) i also put my legs up against the wall to help gravity along. We also only do deep penetration positions.. and i am NEVER on top during O time incase the stuff falls out too quickly after! haha way tmi once again!

Hi Iona :)

Loops- Sorry to hear af is coming. Excellent that shes right on time for once tho. Hopefully that means that ur body is very ready to have another little bub growing inside it very very soon. x

Dory- Thanku so much for ur advice! I hadnt even thought of travel insurance.. ive never had to worry bout it before. But its a great idea. If i am pg and i go atleast if something happens over there i will be covered! Or if we change our minds at the last minute and think its too risky we can cancel. Im going to start looking into it! Thanku! :)

Once again hello to everyone i have missed! Hope everyone is doing great!

Nothing new here :)

:pOh goodness you had me lauging Reet that is hilarious. I get my preseed from Lullaby Conceptions - Affordable Fertility for Everyone I usually just ring them and place an order tho I havent had to place an order this time as have still some left from last time. Also, if you are after good HPT which read on really early on and are cheap they have them there. I tested pos with their strips 9DPO last pregnancy. They are like 10 for $10.95 or something. I think Lullaby is out of preseed but expecting it in any day and are taking phone orders for it in the mean time I read that somewhere that they have it sitting at customs to be released at any moment so they may even have some today. I find it particulary great with the applicators, cos you can apply just the right ammount and you can put it in you with the applicator (sorry if tmi) tho if you do order it you dont need the whole applicator ammount (too wet) and the stuff is really silky and not like other lubes. I def reccommend it!!

Forshelby, oh you will get it soon enough. Everyone I know who has been pregnant or is pregnant knows all about it. One day you will brush your teeth and go WTF as the toothpaste will make you feel like hurling. I had it so bad I had to block my nose to brush my teeth and wash my mouth out liek a hudred times or I would vomit. He he. I hope you miss that one all together!!! :)

MsKara, I had an early US with number 1 who they said it could be a whatever sack that never develops at 6 weeks cos no heartbeat, but it is right on the time that they do develop a HB and the HB might be so small the US doesn't pick up on it. Like you I got very stressed and went back in a couple of weeks later and it was fine and they dated it at just 7 weeks (so in 2 weeks the embryo had only developed 1 week) because they use the HB as a dating marker. Up until the HB develops they just sorta measure it and it isnt the most accurate. They say at around 8 weeks you will get a good idea of datings. Also that is a good sign that the egg sack was out as it feeds the embryo until it gets a placenta from my understanding. Also as I had my Us for no 1 as I was bleeding I can remember the US person telling me that although they could not see it the baby would be further embedding into the uterus to develop a placenta and it might have just hit a blood vessel which is seeping out. I dont know if this helps. Seriously I think it is **** being a bleeder in pregnancy.....I was sooooo jealous of my friends with their "perfect" pregnancies. But i had the better baby by far (temperament wise) :)

Morning All,
Yay I got my ticker sorted!!! I get lost without it!
Reet - Im already busting to test!!! I dont think im going to need much encouragement! :) How is everything with you? not long til Dh comes home for a bding fest ???/ You had me laughing about being on top during O time hehe, DH gets cranky cuz I laugh so hard trying to dismount without losing any!!!
Mskara - Hang in there, I know the next few weeks are going to be really stressful but try and relax, Im praying for a stickybub for you! xxx
Mum22 - I know what you mean about the brushing the teeth! But for me it was the actual brushing!
Kezzy - EDD are hard, mine is the 31st of this month and Im hoping I will get a BFP just in time! Go easy on yourself a stickybub will come along in no time xxx
Iona - How is everything with you? Im not sure when to test, trying to hold of for as long as possible!
AFM- Surely gastro would be gone by now, i still feel sick FX it sticks around! Some slight cramping this morning and tightness across my tummy, I really hope im not imagining these things! Im in the bad books with DH, I took his cigarettes and threw them out, He has already quit once and Im not going to deal with him again if it turns into a full addiction again...ah well at least i did it away from O time :lol:
Stickyvibes to everyone xxx

Gee this thread has been awfully quiet today. We have gone through something like 5 pages on the TTC 1-6 months. Hmmmmm. Hoping everyone is okay today. MsKara how are you today??? Reet???

Ahh no, nerves are driving me bonkers lol. It doesn't matter what I go in for, I always get nervous going to the docs and this time is no exception lol. I will get to find out how my PCOS is going hopefully in two weeks :D with the drop of 20kgs I am hoping for some good news compared to last years... so, so nervous.

Aside from my selfish post, how are you all going? :) it is too soon to appt time to do perssies but I will later on :)

Hi Ladies

Just a quick one from me as the MS is horrible today and I think I'm getting a cold, so the couch is my best friend lol.

I had a good cry last night, which cleared up my thoughts and made me realise 6 weeks is perfectly ok considering I've been having cycles of 50-60 days since the m/c.

I managed to schedule an OB appt for next tuesday, and was going to go to my GP today to see if i could get bts done, but realised I won't have the results back by the time the appointment comes so I've decided just to wait it out. The brown spotting has stopped, I still feel sick, and my bbs still hurt, so as long as this continues.. I think I'll be ok :)

Thanks for all of your reassurance! You guys are brilliant!

Morning sickness means your hormone levels are high and is said to be a really good sign of an established pregnancy MsKara!!

As crap as it makes you feel it also makes you feel sorta happy knowing it means the baby is well!!

Oh gosh, too many posts to catch up properly but will have a go from memory:

Clairesmummy: sorry for your loss. It's hard no matter how early it happens. You think of what could have been. I think we can all relate to that 'dying to be pg' feeling. I hope your cycles get back on track quickly and the next BFP sticks.
Iona: hope you are feeling ok.
Ms Kara: great to hear your good news. Hope this little bean keeps sticking.
Alice: Wow, a big month coming up for you. Will be thinking of you. Keep us posted.
Dory: glad to hear from you even if less often. 31 weeks and counting. Fantastic!
Bons: Your symptoms sound so promising. FX for you.
Forshelby: yucks for the vommies! But hopefully it's a good measure of stickiness!
Reet: Your trip sounds great. Yeah, travel insurance should cover it. I know what you mean about trying to plan things when you don't know what's going to happen. I've been trying to work out what to do. I keep thinking i'm going to have a baby so have put off decisions like about my work. I've finally decided that i need to go ahead as though i'm not going to be pregnant and if I do get pg i will work around it.
Kelbel: Hello lurker!
Loops: sorry AF showed up : (
Mum22: Getting to the BD part of the month. GOod luck!
Kezzy: spotting must be very annoying. Neither here nor there. Hope body behaves for you soon.
Damprye: wow! You must have worked so hard to lose that much weight. I admire your will power. Hope Dr appointment goes well.

Sorry if i missed anyone.

AFM: Got 2nd BT results back. HCG has gone down from 147 to 54. My Dr still thinks it should be lower and still wants me to see the oncologist for a consult but i'm feeling relieved that at least it's quite a bit lower. (I was scared it would be the same or not much different). I've had lots of AF type pain the last few days. Very tiring and making me freak out something is really wrong but dr thinks it's still from the mc (my body trying to finish things). Have been in a bad head space the last week. Scared there's something really wrong with me and i'll never have another baby or worse. Why do i have to have such a freaky body? Other people have babies without these dramas right? I know you all know what i mean.... why did we draw the short straws?

Mum22- Well i have ordered my preseed.. woohoo!! Express mail!! Hopefully it is here on friday ready for O time early next week :) it sounds great! Thanks for all the info.. lets hope im as lucky as u and i get my bfp from using it!! :)

Mskara- So glad that ur feeling more positive. Ur symptoms sound like ur baby is defintely a sticky one!! :)

Bons- Oooohhh u can test tomoro!! well according to first response tests u can anyway! Are u going too?? or try and prolong it a bit longer.. Good luck! :)

Hi Damprye!

AFM- Still nothing to report here.. going to start doing opks tomoro.. hoping i still dont O for another 4 or so days tho..

Hello to everyone..ur all very quiet in here today! :) nite nite xxx

Sorry Possum- missed ur post! Good that ur hcg levels have gone down quite a bit.. only a little bit more to go! Arent our bodies so FRUSTRATING!! I dont know anyone else that has had this many issues.. none of my friends.. or family. WHY US?!?! Dont get me started! Sorry to hear its all a bit messed up for u right now.. hopefully theres nothing major wrong and u can get it sorted very soon. xx

Hi Reet! Thanks! Yeah, you've had your fair share of frustrating body experiences too. Hope this week goes well xx

Gosh possum, you have had a touch time :( I hope it all starts to get better really soon for you :) Yep, BD bonanza am on CD10 today....wooopeee.

Reet, goodluck, I hope you get your BFP this month too!!!

Should read all the testimonials on the preseed site. I"m only one of them!!! :)