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thread: Loss due to Incompetant Cervix

  1. #1
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
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    Loss due to Incompetant Cervix

    Hi,

    Sadly I lost my first baby, Clair, @ 20w just recently. I'm sad but I find each day gets a little less painful.

    I read in the paper today about keyhole surgery for an abdominal cerclage, apparently it was a first in Australia, the keyhole method that is and was successful. Unfortunately the lady had a number of mc before the problem was corrected.

    I expect that I will follow a similar path next time I fall pregnant (when I can think about trying again for the right reasons). I have enough cervix to bind, so to speak, but I was wondering if anyone else has had a cerclage done and how successful it was? They seem to be very common in America and although I hate that I had to find out about them this way the events leading up to it were so quick it was nobody's fault.

    Best wishes



    Melissa

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    hun Im so so sorry for you loss

    I havent experience your problem but i hope it can be fixed and wish you the best with you next pg


    xx

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    BellyBelly Member

    Jun 2005
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    for you. I am sorry for the loss of your daughter. I am sure someone will post soon that has some info for you. Take care.

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    Melissa,

    I am so very sorry for your loss of baby Clair . My heart goes out to you. I've lost Joshua at 20 weeks in October this year, althought not to IC. I thought I lost him because of IC, but it turned out my fibroid played up.

    I have read several books on miscarriage and still birth, and they can put a stich in your cervix at around 13 weeks, accordining to these boks, through your vagina ( the books are a few years old though...). I also read that true cases of IC are pretty rare, and one of these women gynies/OB in the UK who runs a clinic dealing purely with miscarriages ( at all stages of pregnancy ) recommends testing for antiphospholipid syndrome of pregnancy a type of an autoimmune disorder which results in second trimester miscarriage.

    Hope this helps.

    Take care of yourself hun, and I hope your next pregnancy goes well.

    Beata.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2008
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    Hi Melissa
    I am so sorry to read of the loss of your little girl.
    I lost my son last November due to IC and am currently almost 23 weeks pg with a little girl. My ob recommended a preventative cerclage which was placed vaginally at 14 weeks of this pg. It is basically like a drawstring which is meant to help keep the cervix from dilating prematurely. As I am still on this journey and currently on bedrest due to my cervix shortening recently I can't testify for how successful the cerclage has been, but I suspect that were it not for that and also the extra monitoring I am under this time, we might not be this far along. Already we are almost 2 weeks ahead so that has to be a good thing!
    As for the abdominal cerclage, I do know of a lady that has one here in Australia and so far in her pg she has had no problems and has needed no bedrest. Certainly the stats from overseas show it to be slightly more successful but I'm not sure how many doctors do them here. It wasn't something my ob suggested and unfortunately I think that sometimes a failed vaginal cerclage is needed for that extra step to be suggested. I could be wrong though. I have also read that the abdominal cerclages are used if the cervix is too short for the normal drawstring. For me, my cervix length is nice and normal...until we reach the 21 week mark of pg!
    There are a couple of other threads about IC and cerclages here if you want to have a look -one is in the pg area, Medical conditions (I think) and also under the Loss section there is a post called "new and sad' which has some stories that might help too.
    Good luck and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Everyone here is great.

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    I read that article too, and was wondering the difference between the keyhole surgery and a normal cervical stitch @ 13-14 weeks.

    I looked in to it when pg with DS, because there was a drug that was given to women up til the late 70s ( I was born in 1977) for threatened miscarriage - which my mum had, and one of the effects they have discovered since is that daughters of women who took it can have IC. I got her to ring the hospital and aparently they stopped using it in 75 or 76.

    I hope that you are offered some hope & options for the future

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    Jun 2005
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    I suppose I am one of the sucessful stories in this department.
    I prev lost 2 preg at 20 weeks before they decided that I was worth the risk of infection with a cerclege. Mine was done at 13 weeks and held with no shortening at all till 37 weeks.
    The specialist that did mine had his own technique which placed the stitch high up in the cervix, and did alot of this procedure. I am 100% sure with a normal stitch I may not of got as far as I did.
    Good luck do your research and my prayers are with you and your partner to get thru this terrible loss

    B

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    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2008
    Sydney
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    Hi Mesi

    I am so very sorry for the loss of your little girl.

    I lost my little boy in July this year due to IC and need a cervical cerlage next pregnancy also. I have done alot of research on IC and the various stitches that can be performed. From what I have read, the abdominal cerlage is done prior to pregnancy and can actually stay there until you complete your family. I have heard it is a little more successful than vaginal cerlages but means you have to deliver by C-section. Like AngelLukesMum said, I think they only consider it for women with naturally short cervixes. Now unless the article is describing a new type of abdominal stitch on the market, the abdominal stitch in Australia is not at all common.

    Can you tell me which paper the article was in? I would love to read it.

    I am sending you lots of support

    Diana

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    Registered User

    Dec 2008
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    The article was in the Sunday Mail (in Brisbane) but here is a link which has much more detail: The greatest gift of all | Herald Sun

    Thank you so much for your responses, it makes a difference. I will definitely ask about possibilities other than IC when I see the doctor.

    Best wishes to all.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2008
    Sydney
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    Thanks for the link Mesi. I didn't realise it was the first time this procedure was performed here in Australia. I will definitely have a chat to my FS/OB about it. Would love to hear about any more info you get on this.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2008
    Sydney
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    I just read the story too and now it has raised a million more questions in my head! Like, had she had failed vaginal cerclages before getting this? Did she have to have a c/s (am guessing yes)? Even with this new surgery did she have to do any bedrest? Can think of many more but ah well, I'll have to trust my current cerclage does the job for me this time around!
    Sounds like a much easier procedure though vs the normal abdominal surgery so hopefully it will be a common op soon enough.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2008
    Sydney
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    Jo, I'm with you... I want to know so much more about her circumstances. Perhaps you could mention the article to your OB? I am sure he would have some info on this new procedure or at least heard about it.

    Now as for you, your cervix will remain long and closed until baby girl's due date so don't you worry.

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    BellyBelly Member

    May 2008
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    Hi, words are very inadequate when you have lost someone so precious, but I am sorry. We lost our DS in April 08 at 23+5wks, due to possible IC & infection. I had a suture placed with this pregnancy at 13+5days, so I can't tell you yet how succesful it will be, but I have a good feeling it will get us through. I had my 18 wk scan today and cervix is long and closed, have another in a month. I have a feeling like the other ladies said that they will only do the abdominal sutures as the last resort, but check it out anyway. The article sounded great, keyhole surgery is just amazing. Good luck on your journey.
    Helen

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    Mar 2006
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    Mesi - I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your baby. I too lost my son at 24wks due to possible IC. My next pregnancy occurred 3mths later and I was monitored from 18wks to 30wks every week for possible shortening of the cervix. I was also on bed rest for this time too. My beautiful daughter arrived at 37wks and I am convinced the monitoring (hence less stress) and bed rest helped me through it all. I have only ever heard positive outcomes from a cerclage being done so hopefully this will be your case too when the time arises.

    Take care, T.

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    Jan 2009
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    Question for Tess

    Hi Tess,
    I am new to this forum but noticed that you were located in Canberra. I lost my twins 8 wks ago due to IC and have had mixed messaged from the ob I used about the use of preventative cerclages for any additional pregnancies. I am not sure whether you got a cerclage or not? Did you go through the Canberra Fetal Medicine Unit for your pg and monitoring or did you use a private ob? I don't want to use the same ob I did this time round but would love a recommedation for another if you have been happy with the care you receive and want to pass on their name.

    Thanks heaps,

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    BellyBelly Member

    Jul 2008
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    Hi

    I haven't read any of the previous posts so my answer may have been said.. I personally had a stitch put in at 19wks as the U/S found my cervix was short and thin.. I was told there was 'no reason to think it wouldn't last to 36wks' I went into labour at 23wks.. Had my Bubs (twin boys) at 24wks and 2 days.. I have been advised that in a future pregnancy I should have a stitch at around 14wks...

    Good luck.. x

  17. #17
    Registered User

    Dec 2008
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    Update

    Hi,

    It has now been two months and I am fortunate that physically I have returned to normal so I have been told I can try again now. Mentally I'm much improved also, going to work was a big step forward and made a significant difference for me.
    I didn't know about this but Logan Hospital has a private clinic run by Dr Draper who is an obstetrics\gynaecology specialist and she will be looking after me next time. I'm grateful for this as she understands how I will be slightly more anxious that usual next time .
    I'm meeting with her next week for a check up but we briefly discussed the use of a stitch next time and it will be done at 12 weeks.
    Anyway, first things first though, need to get pregnant for starters and then a day at a time.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
    Canberra
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    I am so sorry I did not respond to your question mariagab - I have not been on BB for a while.

    I did go through the Canberra Fetal Medicine Unit - they were fantastic. I was monitored fortnightly from 18wks to 30wks where my cervix was checked and bubs was measured etc. It was all done through public health not private.

    Hope that helps. Tess.

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