Babies Born April 16th-30th 2009 #1

Welcome back AnnaChas! We haven't started solids yet, I haven't really even thought about it lol. No teeth either and I'd say not any time soon. I think from memory Oskar was about 8 months with his first. Good luck with back to work :)

Bee, you are doing a WONDERFUL job with Jacob! With his head can he get one of those helmets to help reshape it?? I don't know the background on his head sorry :(

Mel, :hug: I ended up in tears the other day too. It just all got too much to deal with and Andy was away and J is being well... ummmm hmmmmm an ass! Then O was being the devils child :( E was waking every 1-2 hours again and I was sleep deprived too. This morning though Andy took the boys and I got to sleep until 10! It was wonderful.

Elijah is getting better with sitting but can't sit on his own and he rolls onto his tummy but his arm is still under him. Is that classed as rolling yet? Oskar never rolled lol. I also think that Elijah will crawl where Oskar was a bum shuffler. He does 360's on his back and loves playing with toys now. He's funny if you walk up to him his arms go straight up for you to get him.

When you say you don't how we do it with 2... I DON'T KNOW! lol. Last night though made it worth the pain. Oskar had Elijah in absolute fits of laughter. It was gorgeous and I was laughing so much. It was so nice :)

Oh and this is what I've now done to try to combat this behaviour we're all of a sudden having... Oskar now has 2 charts on the fridge.. one is "Good Behaviour" and the other is "Toilet". When he does something good (like good listening or being nice etc) he gets a sticker and for this time when he gets 5 he's allowed to get a surprise - like a matchbox car or something. The toilet one is trying to encourage him to do poos on the toilet lol. We started this today and have 1 sticker on good behaviour so far. It's a good thing to be able to say we need to stop now or we won't be getting a sticker! I don't like smacking but I got left with not much choice during the week just gone and it was not fun for either of us and it aggravated things at times too. I'm hoping that this will help things. I think he's entered terrible twos a bit late lol.

Hi everyone,

I am sorry I am so slack at posting, everyday there is a new post I'm in here reading but I never talk so I have decided to turn a new leaf and chat more.

All is going well here. Spence has been rolling since about 3.5months? Have to work out what date it was so I can write it in his baby book and he can sit for 30sec-1min has been able to since 4.5months
he also got his 2 bottom teeth the day before he turned 5months (can you believe I'm typing that??? our babies are that old already!!!!!) and he is just gorgeous!!! He sleeps about 9-10hrs at hight so is in bed at 6.30,7 and then feeds at about 4,4:30 he goes 3-4hrs during the day anad has now moved from his constant 1hr sleeps to up to 2.5hrs day sleeps monday he even had a 3hr nap!! but so might do 1 longer 1 1hr and then and 1.5hr nap, it is soooooooo lovely he also puts himself to sleep

He was usually always putting himself to sleep and then he had his 4month needles and then was teething and all of a sudden i realsied i was rocking him to sleep every sleep. I had triesd from when he was a baby to sleep him on his belly (Noah sleep like this and he slept sooooooo well like that) and he didnt want a bar of it but I tried it again and immediately he put himself to sleep he just looks around and puts his head down and he's asleep, within 5mims and if he cries at all i just put his dummy in and he's out to it!!! I looooooooooooooovvvve it and just is so helpful with Noah knowing that I don't have to leave him to his own devises and Spence is getting the sleep he needs

No solids here yet and no water just bm for Spence!

Jas, sounds like Spencer is the perfect child. :D I am glad everything is going so well.

Cass, I don't think Byron cares enough about stickers for a chart to work. :rolleyes: I will have to find something that he really wants... other than chocolate. :lol: I hope the chart works for Oskar.
We are getting all his wees in the toilet when we are at home now, but still no poos. He seems to hold on until he has a nappy on. I am getting closer to only 1 child in nappies again though. :dance:

Edward is sitting now too. He is a little wobbly but he can stay sitting up for a few minutes at a time... then he gets bored and tries to crawl. He is pushing right up on his knees now and is doing the backwards shuffle. He also spins in circles and wriggles to where he wants to go. He is waaay more mobile than I would like at this point! I was hoping he would stay in one place for longer so my job was easier. :p
We are having 1 big nap and 2 smaller naps during the day now, with about 3 hours between each one. Edward doesn't seem to want to get back to his 10 hour sleeps yet and is still waking me for a feed at about 3 or 4 am. I could probably just pat him back to sleep since he only feeds for about 5 minutes and he is asleep again. I might try it once we get past 6 months, hopefully he will start sleeping right through again.

Hope the rest of you are well.

Mel, Do you like Mel or do you like Melanie? He pretty much is the perfect child. He is such a wonderful sleeper now and so often when he goes down for naps I am so thankful to be able to try to get a few things done and am so glad he can self setlle etc and when he goes down to bed at night and I know I have my evening to enjoy being just me and not mummy its sooo nice and makes me so happy to have a good bedtime routine! Gorgeous ticker pic!

Jas, Thanks, I got excited when there was a picture of me with Edward... normally I am taking the photos so am never in them. :p
I feel silly calling myself Mel so introduce myself as Melanie, but pretty much everyone calls me Mel. Mel is good. :D I love knowing that once we get Byron to sleep (Edward is no trouble to get down) we have the rest of the night to ourselves. Adult time is so important!

Jas, WOW! That's awesome. Elijah goes between sometimes sleeping 5/6 hours at night to 2/3 hours...lol..... aaarrrghh.

Mel, I'm not sure if he cared too much to start with, but I think he's starting to get it a bit now. We had a setback and I took 2 back the other day lol.... so it's taken him 5 days now to get back to 3 stickers... 2 to go for pressie.

Tomorrow we're going to see New MacDonalds Farm show (Max and Milly), should be fun.

SO TODAY'S BIG NEWS IS................................................ .......... Elijah rolled on his own today from back to tummy! Just once, but he did it!

Mel, there's a Playtime playgroup at Bridgeman Downs apparently. Sneakysparkle goes to it... it's on 3 days a week but I'm thinking of going maybe Wed week if you want?? Closer than North Lakes for you too. What do you think?

Jas, what a great little sleeper Spencer is! :) Looking forward to the day Noah has a big sleep...just one! lol
I can't believe my little man is 6 months old now. :( Where has the time gone?
He started swimming on Saturday with DH. He looked like he loved it. Was a bit uncertain at first, but about half way through the session when DH was spinning him around in the water he saw me watching from the side, let out a squeal and lots of smiles after that. He's always loved his bath or the shower, so we were hoping he would love the pool just as much.

We have just started solids as well, about 1.5 weeks ago. As much as he looked like he wanted food, when it came to having his own he wasn't interested so I left it for a couple of days and when we started again he was all for it. We've had apples, sweet potato, pumpkin and pears and so far seems to like all of those. He was weighed during the week and is now 7.8kgs and 70cm. So he's dropped to 50th percentile for weight but up to 90th percentile in length and head circ.

No sitting or rolling here yet. When he's playing on his back on the floor he scoots around and can do a full 360 degree turn, but has no interest in rolling at all! Yesterday MIL told me he was 'slow' because he hasn't rolled yet. Needless to say we left soon after that because my tongue was about to drop off from biting it too hard!

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No sitting or rolling here yet. When he's playing on his back on the floor he scoots around and can do a full 360 degree turn, but has no interest in rolling at all! Yesterday MIL told me he was 'slow' because he hasn't rolled yet. Needless to say we left soon after that because my tongue was about to drop off from biting it too hard!

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Oskar never rolled. He didn't crawl either (even though my mother insisted that it would "hurt" him as he HAD to crawl for his brain to work correctly) until after he could walk which was after 15 months. He bum shuffled at around 8 months and rolling came much later... so I don't class that he rolled cos it was so "late" that I wasn't even looking for it anymore lol. He sat by about 5 1/2 months but Elijah isn't anywhere near that either. They're all different! I don't expect Elijah to start rolling around just yet either, it just happened that he worked out getting his arm out today and tried a bit later but got stuck and cried.

Geez parents/ in laws can be frustrating sometimes! Ignore them, Megan! A friend of mine had her MIL call her 5 week old son a blob because he was always asleep when she visited.:wall: That is what little babies do, duh.
And don't you worry either Cass, if Oskar can crawl now then his brain works just fine.

Megan, it is great that Noah likes the water! I have seen some kids at swim classes that just scream the whole time. The parents just look stressed. Both my boys like it as long as it is still water... they really aren't so keen on waves.:rolleyes: it makes trips to the beach a bit painful when neither child wants to go in any further than where the waves just splash your feet.

Cass, I was reading the northside playgroup thread yesterday. Wednesday is one of my days off so it sounds like a plan.

We had a shocker of a night last night. Edward woke me up every 1.5 hours until I finally gave him some panadol. He is still asleep now... it has been 5 hours. Why didn't I give him the drugs earlier????:doh: I really hope there is a tooth to show for it, or he is a couple of cm longer. lol. I wouldn't want to be woken up for nothing!:p
We are off to see Thomas and friends the stageshow at the entertainment centre this afternoon. I hope 90 minutes isn't too long for Byron! He can watch thomas videos for hours at home so we should be ok. ;)

Quiet in here again.

Cass, are you heading to that playgroup tomorrow?

We are off to Cairns on Saturday for a week. DH and I might get some child free time since both sets of grandparents are up there. :dance: I am really looking forward to the break... not the heat though. lol.
We are going in for Edward's shots this afternoon. He is already cranky, I assume due to teething, so I am bracing myself for no sleep tonight. :doh:

Mel, sorry I did read your post the other day but forgot to come back....

Tomorrow, no we won't be going.... we've had an interesting week here! Wednesday night found head lice in Oskar's hair! Not really sure where he got them from but could only trace back to our normal playgroup the week before, yes a WHOLE week! He had all these little nits starting to grow :( UGH!! Bet now you're all scratching hahaha. Anyway, got them all I think.... we've found the odd tiny one and Andy found an egg last night but not sure if it was old or not cos we've just been combing through his hair each night in the bath. Then on Friday morn he was being feral and I felt his head and took his temp which was 38. Great... I think oh I'll see how he goes then thought oh hang on it's Friday I'll see if I can get into doc instead. Good thing too cos he had a REALLY bad throat infection. The thing is with him, you don't know until he gets the temp as he still eats. Anyway, by 3 that arvo he had a fever of 39.4 and he's been running a temp still of average 37ish.

Now onto Elijah... poor little fella has been getting a bit gunky in the eyes on and off since that damn dust storm.... so I thought, I'm over this let's take you to the doc and also he can check your throat whilst we're there seeing as you just can't successfully stop a 2 year old from being in the face of the baby lol. His temp 37.5...Verdict... conjunctivitis and yep, start of the throat infection!

I swear I own the local pharmacy now lol. Both boys on ab's. Oskar has been on nurofen and panadol since Friday and now cough med cos he's got a chesty cough to go with it all. Elijah has a little too so his must be breaking up which is good. I think I need to buy shares in Yakult too seeing as they're both having that also. Easier than Inner Health Plus and doc said does same thing...yay cos Oskar loves it.

Hmmmm did I mention the 16 yr old in there who is driving me insane?? NO respect except when he wants something. So I reckon that I NEED holiday lol. Any takers????

Long story short Mel... we won't be there lol... bugger though cos it's a really good one. Will definitely be going back though.

Hi all...
Im so sorry I've been superslack in posting, I always go to then Oliver cries or gets stuck on his belly or something or Sam wants something.. Never enough time to do anything lol. We've been good.. I cant believe Oliver is 6 Months old next week.. It only feels like he was born yesterday. He is rolling over all over the place.. Getting stuck here there and everywhere.. No sitting tho. He still is a bit wobbly in his head but he's getting there. When on his belly he has been getting up onto his knees for a few rocks then falling down again. Were also starting solids.. We've had banana, apple, avocado and pumpkin so far, just once a day. I found apple really played up with him he had really funny poos that were runny and mucousy and a little bit of blood.. I took him to the nurse and she said it was probably more gastro then apple. So i think we'll try it again in a couple of weeks.
I go back to work next week. Every Thursday and Friday. So not too bad. I work at a bank only 5 mins down the road so it was too convenient to say no as i dont think the position will be there when im ready to come back from mat leave.. I think they would have put me at morayfield or Caboolture which is about 25 mins from me. So i thought id go back for the peace of mind id be still at Bribie and it is only 2 days a week.. Still bit sad though. Oliver will be with his Grandma these 2 days so that makes me feel a bit better and Sam is already in Kindy those days aswell.. Its so busy with the two already i dont know how were going to be out the door by 7.45 every morning.. Im dreading it.

I hope everyones babies are thriving and that your all well.
Amanda <3

Well, Cass, sounds like you have had a busy time of it. I was actually relieved when you said you weren't going... I really needed a whole day at home to do stuff. I hope your boys are feeling better! I really hate conjunctivitis!

Sounds like things are going well for you, Amanda. That is great that your work will be so close and that you have a grandparent to look after Oliver! My parents keep talking about moving down here, I would really love it if they did! Sometimes you just need a relative nearby to load the kids on. :D I am sure you will enjoy the time with other adults, and it will just make you appreciate your time with Oliver more. Good luck.

We have had an interesting few days too. When I took Edward for his shots on Tuesday I mentioned a nappy rash thaty had appeared a couple of days earlier. The dr said it was fungal and so I got some special cream. He was a bit miserable and had a slight fever over the next couple of days which I just put down to teething and needles. Then the rash got worse and spread all over his body and I have finally realised that he has hand, foot and mouth disease. There are little blisters in his mouth and his bum is all spotty... but he is getting better. Unfortunately he will still be spotty and a bit grumpy for our flight tomorrow. :doh:
Anyway, off to Cairns tomorrow. I still haven't packed anything so I better get going. I just can't do it at the last minute now that there are kids travelling too. They need so much stuff!
Have a great weekend everyone.

Amanda, that's great! There are days (like today) where I'd have loved to have been at work rather than home. I love being home with the kiddies but sometimes it'd be a nice break.

Mel, Oskar had hand, foot and mouth last year. Only got one or two blisters luckily! It's HIGHLY contagious - the fluid in the blisters. I hope he doesn't share it with Byron! Have a great time in Cairns!!! I know what you mean about family being close by. We don't have that either but it sure would be nice sometimes just to have 5 mins.

Last night was a nightmare with Elijah *sighs*. He woke at midnight, fed him, back to sleep but then every time I put him down he'd wake 5/10 mins later until 2am! Then he woke at 4am and wouldn't stay asleep unless he was attached to my boob so that is how he slept until just before 6am when I really needed to move but I put him down and AWAKE so on the boob and asleep again aaarrrrggghhhhh. I don't know what is going on, if it's cos he's sick or what.... he's a nightmare sleeper compared to what Oskar was.

I'm feeling really hmmm deflated and like I'm not doing very well with the whole "mum" thing. I feel like all I do lately is yell - Oskar seems to have lost the art of hearing and he's really testing and pushing boundaries all the time with Elijah and I don't know why he just keeps doing it. He'll be so nice and thoughtful by giving toys to Elijah then 5 mins later he's hitting him or laying on him or something. I'm feeling out of control with how I'm dealing with it all. I don't want to yell but I feel it's all I do some days. I try all other avenues I can think of until I just snap *sighs*. I feel over it and don't want to do it anymore. Part of it is all probably to do with some degree of sleep deprivation cos Elijah really isn't a great sleeper, these days it's usually once or twice a night but only 2/3 hours apart, so I'm not getting good blocks of sleep. Then there's the whole being pg or BFing... I've been either pg, BFing or BOTH for 3 1/2 years so far. I really, really want to be alone sometimes. Andy was really good today and came home early. He said I just need a break but he can't take both the boys anywhere for too long because well Elijah kinda needs my boobs lol. So it's going to be at least 6 months before I get to have any block of time just for me. Whilst I love them and love being their mum (even though I feel I'm doing a bad job right now) I need to recharge ME!!!

Oh Cass, you pooooooooor thing! :hug: I know EXACTLY how you feel a few weeks ago Noah woke early and it wasn't even 6am and he had had 2time outs and I had said don't do that be gentle literally about 100times!

I was talking to a freind of mine who as a little boy 1day older than Noah who is also very active rough and tumble and she said the other week she was thinking if only she could just block her sons airways off just enough so he would pass out and she could dress him without complaint lol she was joking but it was so nice to know others go through the same thing, Noah often plays the drums on Spencer's head! He's scratched him and made his nose bleed once, by putting a little scratch at his nostril...playing the drums on his head with crayons!!

Will Elijah take a bottle if you expressed? or a cup? Maybe you could try just so you could go out even for a few hrs. Since Spence has been born I have really been remembering all the things i like outside of my kids...I like doing creative things so have been sewing clothes etc it really helps have time to be just me not mum or wife.

We started Spence on solids last thurs and he is going for it....crazy about food! He also has 3 teeth...not even 6months yet..not until wednesday. He has the 2bottom middle ones and hen on the top he has the second from the middle on the right hand side.

He can sit for ages now 15+mins and has been up pn his hands and knees for a while now too very cute

Jas, what is it about them playing drums on the head??? Oskar does that or he'll swipe his head as he runs past him. I keep telling him that Elijah will get big enough to do it back one day!

I haven't tried EBM. I have thought about it but I wasn't very successful expressing with Oskar, took forever to get just 20ml. I tried a little bit of avocado with Elijah he thought it was weird. I've given him raisin bread crusts to hold and he licked it like a lolly lol.

You know I don't even remember some things I like! haha I do like creative things and really want to do Oskar's scrapbooking album but I haven't got anywhere to set it up and leave it for now so that's why I haven't even looked at that yet. I need to be able to have an area but that area is not up to the task just yet. I am still moving stuff around and decluttering before I can even look at it.

Elijah was 6 months just over a wk ago now but no teeth and no sitting! He has rolled twice so 2 more times than Oskar ever did lol.

I did get my eyebrows waxed today AND my nails done :) Elijah was asleep so Andy took both boysfor a walk around the shops which was nice.

Aaahh girls, I think we are all in the same boat. Some days I am absolutely ready to throttle Byron because he just won't leave his brother alone! Drums on the head, poking in the eyes, pushing him over when he is sitting... he just doesn't seem to get how horrible he is being. I have to really make a conscious effort not to smack as it sometimes seems like the fastest way to get him off Edward, but I know it doesn't work, and that I feel bad afterward. :( Then he is beautiful and gentle again for long enough to stop me giving him away. lol.

Cass, Byron had hand foot and mouth last year when he was at Daycare. It was very mild, I can completely understand how people could have no idea that their children have it. He has had a blistery rash on his bum too, but it seems to be the only symtom he has gotten this time round. Clive has it though... he has been all miserable with blisters and a sore throat and headache. Men are terrible at being sick!! :lol:
You should try expressing, at worst you will find that it is pointless again, but you might find you have a much easier time this time around.

Edward is off his boob today. He woke up a few times last night but refused to eat, just went back to sleep. Then he only had a little bit this morning too. I was REALLY sore. I had to squeeze milk into a plastic container as I forgot to bring the pump and bottles up to Cairns with me. I got about 200ml out of one side... Clive was in hysterics watching me. It was like a shower. lol. He wasn't too keen on his solids either. I hope he gets over it soon!
On a brighter note he sat himself up from on his tummy this morning, and he is actually crawling. Only a couple of 'steps' at a time before flopping back onto his tummy, but crawling none the less. He will also get himself down into crawling position from sitting without falling on his face now. :D It makes me much less worried about leaving the room briefly.
We have been having a nice time. We have been to the beach and had a lunch without the kids. :dance: Went to Crystal Cascades earlier for a swim with the boys. It was really beautiful. It is really great going to the rainforest swimming holes with no other people around. It has been a long time since I have been here when it wasn't school holidays.


Anyway, better get going. Keep your chins up... apparently they grow out of it. ;)

Hi All,

I am so, so slack with posting ... something always seems to happen, and I'm knackered when I get back from work! It seems like everyone's little ones are all growing up and getting bigger! I can't believe Daniel is 6 months already. No visible signs of damage from having Dann and I as parents, which is always a bonus! :D Seriously though, it's gone by so quickly and Daniel's growth is unreal! He's rolling now and trying very hard to crawl, but he still hasn't got the hang of it. Sitting is going ok too, but he has a little leaning issues to sort out!

Jas - that's awesome about the great sleeping! We had a great routine and STTN (for about 8 weeks!), but there's nothing like traveling that ruins it! :doh: So now we're back to waking once/twice a night. We've had 2 nights where he STTN in the last 4 weeks ... urgh. I know I shouldn't complain, but we got so spoilt! Plus, he's lost his ability to self settle cos we had to hold him and rock him heaps in the hotel rooms we stayed in.

We've also been having a cranky baby - I think it's teething ... but the blasted teeth keep going up and down. I can't wait until those teeth finally make a freaking appearance!!! He's also off his food and crotchety so I'm hoping it's just a growth spurt and he finishes it quickly! He also had his shots the other day, and got a fever that night. Nothing as bad as after the 8 week shots, but still ...

Mel - lol. Hope you guys have a great time up there!

Megan - wow, swimming! It seems like one of those things that I think we'll get around to soon (not sure when though!) Glad he enjoyed it though! Daniel is also doing the scooting around on his back thing. I can't believe your MIL said that! How frustrating.

In me news though, for some reason the past few weeks have been so weird. I cry at a drop of a hat and snap at DS like you wouldn't believe. Poor bugger doesn't know what's going on. With this in mind, I went to see the doctor today and she's put me on Lovan to see if that helps. Has anyone taken it or heard of someone taking it before? I'm really hoping it works cos I am so sick of feeling like this. To make matters worse, DS is going overseas for work for 2 weeks and the thought of being by myself with the baby is doing my head in. It's so frustrating cos I really thought I had a handle on all of this. Anyway, watch this space for updates on whether the Lovan works of not. Here's hoping it does. I hate feeling like this.