Babies Born August 16th - 31st 2008

wow we are a quite bunch

lucylu your poor little girl Ive heard of the sugar and water I used it on my fist DS we put a little bit of fresh orange jusce in it and it worked a treat :D

*charmalea* how are you doing


us well Eireann has finally worked out night time is for sleeping have had a great night the last two feel like im getting more sleep I have cut down on dairy in my diet and no choclate or diet coke not that I was eating much but thought it was better safe than sorry only having one cup of tea as well and it does seem to have helped with pucking she only does a little bit now all normal and i know that will go soon as well as she gets older
ive notied my nipple is a little ithy at times thats not trush is it if it is what do i get for it i havent notied any little spots in Eireann mouth but was just wondering

oh and this is a really dumb question but the 6 week check up how does that go i had GD so when i make an appointment should i book the gtt and how much do the dotors normally charge for the check up

hope every one is busy and happy :dance:

thanks for the advice lea ill give it a shot
lucy had her biggest sleep ever last nite 6 and a half hours...so today i feel slightly human:dance: i even brushed my hair!!
tasha

Hi Girls,

Well this is my second day on my own and to be honest I'm struggling a bit. Lily is sick again for the millionth time in 6weeks or so, so is a clingon and just whinging all day, and Liam is being a bit difficult today. I have all of about 6hrs sleep in the past two days and I'm soo buggered. When one's asleep the other is awake, so I'm not getting anything done. Ugh this sucks.....and I don't want to go out because Lil's sick. I was supposed to have a friend over yesterday and go to playgroup today, but I can't cause of her. I've been cooped up in this place for too long!

Anyway enough whining, sotta go Lil's whinging at the fridge for no good reason.

Kellie I'm sorry lil's sick again. Sounds like you're having a real tough time right now. I think you need to ask someone for some help... can you ask your mum to either come over & watch the kids for a few hours while you have a sleep & if you want to, catch up on some housework. Or could you take the kids there & go home for a rest on your own? I'd offer to come over tomorrow & give you a break but I'm still recovering from this flu & would hate to spread it!
Take care hun, big hugs
xxx

not again kel ??? poor lily and poor you .. 6hrs sleep is not enough , im worried about you .. if i was near you i'd come help give you a rest ... i hope you get some help soon , ask some one ..
i always hated asking for help .. but now i dont bat an eyelid at it .. my mum is the 1st person i ask .. usally she is the last buecause i hate her seeing me not coping .. but i still pretend im fine :lol:
and sorry danielle .. that last thing kel wants to do if she gets a break is catch up on house work .. but i kwym ..

now that dh is back at work i am doing worse than i thought i would .. too many expectations on my self .. i thought that i could hang out with nix while gab sleeps and then get the cleaning done inbetween .. but little did i know that gab never sleeps and is cranky , nix has hit the terrible 2's and has hit them bad ... his tanturms are horrific and the cleaning gets forgotten about .. and dinner is thrown togeter 2 secs before i have to leave to pick up dh ...

i tried to clean and tidy the other day .. i job too me over 5 hrs to finally finish .. and all it was , was clearing the bench ..

so i hired a cleaner , once a fornight for 3 hrs ... she comes on a monday and will do it all for me !!! yay ...

well my mum told me this sad story about a mum in a 4wd driving one way and 2 ppl in a van coming the other way .. the 4wd had a screaming baby in the back and the mum turned to check on the bub and veered to the other side of the road straight into the van coming the other way ..

as yet there are no fatalaties BUT the 4wd mum is in a stable condition and the lady driving the van is in a serious condition .. with a leg amputaion looming over her ... the baby is ok as far as i know .. the the 2 ladies are not so good , the passenger in the van ran over to the mum of the 4wd and abused her , she was slumped over the s.wheel and not concious and he was livid but still went off at her .. poor fella was in shock too ..

all this happend a street away from my mums house , who lives in rural area, both cars were write offs and the women got airlifted to hosp...

now , the lady in the 4wd was my mums boss's neighbour and the couple driving the van are my mums neighbours ... the van was a mercedes benz and the 4wd i thinkg was a pajero .. so it just goes to show no car no matter what the brand is not as strudy as we think ... ]

so i went out yesterday and bought 2 maxi riders AHR and 1 infant capsule .. so when gab hits 9 kgs she can go in the maxi rider .. the infant capsule fits to 12kgs so she can be in it for a bit longer if i feel she needs to be ..

wow nix is still in bed .. woo hoo a break for me .. he had his 1st day at daycre yesterday and loved , the lady said he fit right in and even had a sleep .. omg he wont have one at home ..not fair , but i snuck in a waatched him play , he was so happy running around outside ... he looked so cute ..

meanwhile gab is so unsettled still .. .i will ask about it at my 6 week check up .. and nimah i dont think you have to pay , my docs bulk bill . but if yours dont i think it would be a standard cons . fee .. they may even bb for kids under 16 so its best to ask :)
im doning fine by the way , i cant belive our "twins" are nearly 6 weeks ... eek

hugs to every one ....and milly wheres that pm you promised .... havent senn you on here for a bit , hope all is well ...

x hugs to all

oh and tasha , any movement in thestation for lucy ?? Dh and i were on a weekend away and nix got constipated , so while we were waitinng in line at the chemist we were talking about laxatives .. and a family with young kids over heard us and suggested the brown sugar and water, we bought the coloaxl any way JIC .. but when we got back to the marriot , we asked room serive for brown sugar .. ( a bizzare request , but im sure theyve had worse )

and voila .. a short while later , we got our wish .. :lol:

eta .. Nimah , the spots sound like thrush .. get some diflucan ( its one tablet ) over the counter and if it is thrus sould clear it up , but you can ask a pharmasist what it is , if its thrush its easily identifiable and you wont have to see a doc .. even a health nurse of LC could help you .. also ask for a treatment to put on your nipples so that E gets treated too ...

I spoke to soon Eireann was terrible last night I went to bed early thinking ild get more sleep nope she fed non stop till 12 and was crying in between i eventually got her to sleep after walking her round the house and gribe water dont know what time i got her to sleep but im wrecked shane woke at 7 very cross so looks like all our toddlers are acting up

*charmalea* im ringing to make an appointment today for next week ive to get a smear not looking forward to that at all :o lol just a thought do you have to have DTD before your six week check up. thats awful about the accident hope that lady avoids getting her arm removed.

lilias:comfort: your having such a hard time I hope some one can help you give you a break I hope Lily gets better quick for you and your feeling better thinking of you

Hi Kel: hope things get better for you soon, i agree with the girls, get some help if you can, but if you are like me sometimes having someone "help" makes me feel worse.... Do what feels right but dont ever thing anyone is judging you, those that do arent worth it!

Everyone else that is suffering with a babe with feeding, digesting problems....sorry other than eve being intolerant to grapes i have never delt with anything like that.... sorry no help here.

Sorry Lea, have you not gathered that i am no good at pm's....will write back as soon as i finish this...


Well for us, life is about to become insane...in a good way. The kids and i are off to sydney tomorrow for the bridal shower sunday.. three kids, 1 suitcase, 1 bridesmaids dress, two flower girls dresses, two car rides, 1 plane ride and just me LOL, then back sunday night so grace can go to dancing and kindy then back to sydney the following saturday. That saturday is ballet, birthday party, then plane ride, then drive to blue mountains LOL.... have a week there then the wedding then home....how i wish i had a real husband or should i say a husband with a normal job so i could have some help... Am looking forward the girls and i being in the bridal party together, hope thomas is having a little feeding day LOL. Eve slept through last two nights, finally cut her two year old molers, then thomas only woke once. Visitors left today so have found my way through 4 loads of washing, am very anal about having a clean house. Makes me feel like i am doing ok if i can go to bed and wake in the morning to a clean house.

Thomas is 6 weeks today...what a beautiful boy...and danielle am thinking that the smile the other day was a false alarm as it hasnt happened again LOL.

Huge smiles to all and big hugs for those who need one :)

Will let you know how the trip goes when i get back monday :):dance:

Hi girls,

Lea, thanks for the concern hun. I think I'm ok, nothing serious. Other than sleep deprivation and a sick cling on toddler....there's not much I can do about it at the moment. But like you I think I have too high expectations of myself. Dh works 4 days on 4 off, 2 days 2 nights, so I do get a break, but when both babies are screaming at night, we're both up to them anyway, so we're both sleep deprived. I got a pretty good sleep last night, about 6hrs, though I was in bed by 9pm. Lily didn't wake up at all (yayyyy!!!) and Liam only woke for feeds, except at about midnight we were up for an hour with his grumbles, and Lily was awake at 5.10am (eeek) bring on daylight savings.
And I got some help yesterday evening, my mum came over just in the nick of time as I was bathing Liam after a monster poo and Lily was screaming and going nuts at me cause I couldn't pick her up. She was starting to heave and was about to throw up, which is what she does when she gets really upset. Then mum walked in and I almost cried!! She helped bath the kids, washed up and swept the floor for me.
Yay that you got a cleaner, that must be a weight lifted for you!!

Ok gotta go, Liams stirring (gotta get him before he wakes Lil...), hi to everyone else, sorry for the cut short post!

i just pressed some random button on my laptop and now the writing is so huge i can hardly read what everyones said ..

Milly: your forgiven .. but i will hassle you after monday :lol: and best of luck on the trip .. what does you DH do again ?? pmsl @ a grape intolerence ... none of us are sensitve to anything , so im surprised gab has all this going on with her ..

Kellie: your mums a star .. ikwym about the screaming and the almost vomiting . nixon is fantastic at it , and latley he wants "up" alot and its always when im cooking or on the loo or bathing gab .. i always try and get me and the 2 kids bathed before i have to pick up dh .. so all 3 of us strip and get in the shower , then i get out and wrap up gab , get my self dressed and then tend back to her while nix is in the bath , put her in her capsule , get nix out ,dress him and walk out the door ... sooo not as easy as it sounds but its one less thing i have to worry about when we all get back home ..

does anyone else get bored of being at home ... im am soo over it , but by the time i get to wherever i want to go , im tired and buggerd and look forward to going home again ..

i had a nightmare about my cleaner last night .. my mum was yelling at me about how lazy i was and that no one had help in her day and i should do it myself ... i always have nightmares aboout my mums opinion .. gee i have issues

eww i just got a whiff of nix's nappy ... ovbisoulsy yesterdays poo has come late and back with a vengance ...

Hi Everyone,

Sorry I've been lurking and not posting. :redface:

Lea - if it makes you feel any better I had a cleaner for about a year here in Oslo and I didn't have any kids then! I say that life is short and if you can afford it then your time and energy is better spent focussing on the things that matter rather than sweating the little stuff. PMSL at "gee i have issues"! I think most of us have approval issues with our mothers and to think that our kids (esp daughters) will go through the same things with us!! Circle of life (or Karma)! :lol:


Kell, thank goodness your mum arrived in the nick of time. I have no idea how I will cope when we have two little tykes, but I guess we just cope the best we can and try to grow extra arms!

Milly, good luck with the wedding. It sounds like a crazy week but one that is going to be jam packed with great events that will contain lovely memories for all of you. Sadly I am a bit jealous as I never got to be either a flowergirl or a bridesmaid! And I guess my flowergirl days are looooong behind me.

Niamh, I hope that Eireann settled back down for you over night. And thankyou for reminding me that I also need to organise for a pap test. I had one at 7 weeks when I had my dating scan and they said the results were inconclusive and to have another at six months. Well I wasn't about to have anyone poking around down there at 8 months pregnant so I have waited until after Beth arrived.

Danielle, I hope that you are all over your flu! I can't imagine being sick and looking after little ones too! But I know that at some point in my future I will but I am hoping it's far distant! :pray:

Mel, it sounds like Ali is going great guns! Beth has also put on heaps of weight too. I can't believe that you are working already (even if it is from home) I don't know where each day goes. Usually I look at the clock and it's midday and then I look again and it 6pm!

As for me, the count down is on! We land back in Melbourne in 10 weeks! :dance: I am so excited! A lot of my 'free' time now is focussed on wrapping up things here and organising for our return down under. DH's company is paying for a serviced apartment in South Yarra for us which is great and then Beth and I will stay with mum and dad when James heads over to Perth to start in the office after new year.

Beth is growing huge! She is in the 90th percentile for weight and I am looking forward to having her length check at her appt next wednesday as I think she has grown heaps. She looks so much bigger in her pram and moses basket.

I have a question for the group about growth spurts. We had a rather odd day yesterday where Beth wanted to sleep all day. She was so sleepy that at one point I could barely wake her and I got all panicky and took her temp (normal) and starting googling symptoms. In the end I thought fine if you want to sleep then I will put you to bed (6pm), but when i was undressing her to change into a sleep suit she perked right up and became the baby I know and love, really alert and wanting to play. So then I thought perhaps she was too hot so I let her kick around on her play mat for 10 mins wearing just a body suit and socks. Anyway, the googling yielded sleepiness as a side effect of a growth spurt. Has anyone else experienced this?

And does anyone here follow a 'routine'. I have been letting Beth set the routine and it has been working for all of us, but I'm starting to think that I should get her now used to going to bed at 7pm instead of 9ish. I tried to start a routine today but because she was acting so oddly sleepy it didn't really work! Oh well I will try again tomorrow!

Sorry for the long post. I suddenly found I had lots to say! And I also am suffering from insommnia when I feed during the night! (sorry can't remember who also was wide awake but I feel for you!)

Must try to go back to sleep now!

Erin

hi girls
how is it that babies can tell the very moment your about to eat, shower or sit on the toilet!?
thanks lea for the sugar tip it was so nice watching lucy having a poo without looking like her head was about to explode:) mind you her nappy nearly did i couldnt belive that much poo come out such a small person:o
lucy is trying to make her own routine but everytime i think i know what shes doing she has a bad day but then seems to settle back into the same feed and sleep times.
oh yeah about the mum thing im 27 and still worry everytime she comes round that shes going to 'tell me off' for something...but i still love her to bits:)
I also get very bored at home thats why im so glad that i found this lovely bunch of girls to share my everyday stuff and worries with:dance:
bye for now
tasha

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oh and this is a really dumb question but the 6 week check up how does that go i had GD so when i make an appointment should i book the gtt and how much do the dotors normally charge for the check up

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Niamh75 Didn't realise you were a fellow GD sufferer. I had GD with CHloe also. I had my 6 week checkup on Wednesday. OB did a pap smear and just checked all healed. I asked about the GTT as he didn't mention it and said that yeah I should probably have another test done as it was unusual that I got it. He gave me the thing to go get it done and said to go around the 3 month timeframe. Some people have said they've had theirs at 6 weeks and I assumed that also but OB said 3 months. I guess he is giving me plenty of time for my body to adjust back. Have you done any BSL's since birth? I did a few in hospital and they were all under 7 and I did one 1hr and 2hr after a bowl of ice-cream with topping and again under 7.

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I have a question for the group about growth spurts. We had a rather odd day yesterday where Beth wanted to sleep all day. She was so sleepy that at one point I could barely wake her and I got all panicky and took her temp (normal) and starting googling symptoms. In the end I thought fine if you want to sleep then I will put you to bed (6pm), but when i was undressing her to change into a sleep suit she perked right up and became the baby I know and love, really alert and wanting to play. So then I thought perhaps she was too hot so I let her kick around on her play mat for 10 mins wearing just a body suit and socks. Anyway, the googling yielded sleepiness as a side effect of a growth spurt. Has anyone else experienced this?

And does anyone here follow a 'routine'. I have been letting Beth set the routine and it has been working for all of us, but I'm starting to think that I should get her now used to going to bed at 7pm instead of 9ish. I tried to start a routine today but because she was acting so oddly sleepy it didn't really work! Oh well I will try again tomorrow!
Erin

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Erin - Yep have seen that Chloe got sleepy around her growth spurts. At 3 weeks she slept 11 hours straight and scared the #### out of me. I was poking her to make sure she was still breathing. Chloe loves "no nappy time" where I just pop her on a disposable change mat with her nappy off and she kicks and kicks like there is no tomorrow. Normally a wee follows and then when she starts getting a little cranky I dress her again and she is happy.

I haven't tried to set a routine for Chloe but I'm finding she is just making one herself. I note down her feed times as I was shocking in the beginning at remembering when she had fed and when she might be "due". And I can see a pattern now. If she wakes at around 4am then she has a different pattern than if she wakes around 7am but it's usually one of those times is her first feed and it goes from there. Because I am demand feeding it was just easier to do things as she wanted them and now she is putting herself in a routine which is great.

US - Well BF"ing is still an issue. I think my supply is now suffering because Chloe is not feeding properly. I have an appt with LC on Wednesday (was today but they had to change it). We had a shocker day on Wednesday after I had a chicken stir fry for dinner Tues night. She was up most of Wednesday with belly pains and no poo followed. I ended up sleeping on the lounge with her Wed night as she wouldn't lay flat on her back for more than 30 seconds without screaming in pain, and a blood curdling scream I might add. So yesterday we were much better. She had the afternoon with her poppy (alone without nana i might add) and he fed her EBM and a FF comp and they had a nap together then she came home and was all good. Then last night my supply was low so I had a 90ml EBM in the fridge and gave it to her. About an hour later she started screaming again and that was when I realised that half the EBM I'd expressed on Wed Night and half the Thurs morning so she'd gotten half a feed from the stir fry incident. Not happy jan and I felt so bad for her. I ended up giving her a full FF at 9pm to try and flush her out and voila!!!!! Mind you it resulted in her 2nd bath for the day and with mummy in with her.

This morning at 4am she fussed with BF and I had another 90ml EBM (from last night) so i gave her that and then she slept with me till 8.45am. I gave her 35 min BF at 9am but then she was fussing afterwards still even though she went to sleep on me so i gave her a 60ml comp FF and she finished it in record time, gave her another FF and she took another 30ml so I'm really not sure how much she is getting from the BF'ing at this stage.

I'm wondering if I'd be better of just expressing and giving her EBM and then a FF afterwards depending on what I've been able to express. At least I'd know what she was getting and would be less fussing with making up FF's etc.. So not sure what to do!

Sorry for long rant, my typing ers just took on a mind of its own!

Well we had another horrible night. And being on my own was terrible! DH was on a night shift and the kids decided they wouldn't sleep again. I think they're communication with each other as to who's turn it is to be awake. When one went to sleep the other woke up. Lily was up about 4 times, once for an hour, Liam was up about 4 as well and once for about 2hrs. I just want to have more than 2 hrs sleep at a time!! I'm hoping tonight is better, DH is on night shift again...I'm soooo tired, only about 3 or 4 hrs sleep again. Thankfully DH is home for a few days from tomorrow. Might go to mums tomorrow and she can look after Lil while I sleep with Liam. Ugh this sooo sucks, I'm really not enjoying it at the moment.....so when does it get easier??
Sorry no personals again, am going to tidy up and go to bed...

Hello ladies,

We had a better night last night, kind of. I was up a thousand times, but only quick trips for the dummy for Lily and feeds for Liam. And I went to bed at 7.30 which helped, mind you I didn't actually mange to get to sleep until 9pm cause of the kids...they're determined to not let me sleep, LOL! Though we did get a sleep in, until 6.45am, yay! A sleep in for us we're usually up at 5/5.30am.
DH is home for two days now so I get a bit of a break. He's taken Liam to bed now and Lily has just gone to sleep too. She's going to be up all night, but I just can't deal with her whinging cause she's tired, she fell asleep at the shops but only slept for about 20mins, soooo not enough for her when she's waking 5 times a night (no really it was 5 times last night, more than Liam, at almost 18mths....I really thought by now she'd be sleeping through :wall:). So I have half an hour or so for myself, woohoo!!
I have my 6wk check up next week, I am going to talk to the dr about pnd. I'm a bit worried I might be getting it, or at least some kind of depression. Yesterday was a really horrific day for me and I spent the day in tears. Lucky DH was hoem, though he was meant to be sleeping off a 14hr night shift. In the end he only got about 5hrs sleep...more than me, but still, he has a highly stressful jod which requires him to be alert. (Not that mine doesn't!!) So he helped me calm down, and we had a good talk this morning. I feel better today, but still pretty fragile. I don't know if I can just blame sleep deprivation anymore. I mean I am stiil horribly sleep deprived, and that's at least half of my problem, but I still think it could be depression/anxiety/stress....something like that.
Anyway enough about me!!

Lea, yeah, my mum is pretty good when I REALLY need her. But if she would just see that she could help before I get to the end of my tether then I wouldn't snap, kwim?? And I hear you on the judgement thing, I have that big time, if she comes over I'm constantly makeing excuses why theres washing in the sink or the clothes aren't packed away.
Your routine sounde good, like you hve it down pat! I haven't managed a routine yet and can't get out the door before 10ish. I'm lucky to be dressed by then! I find it hard too cause I have to try to get the two of them down 3 flights of stairs, not fun... But yep I'm soo sick of being home too, and so is Lily, she's so bored of her toys and this place, she's turned into destructo-girl and just pulls stuff apart that she shouldn't. She used to do it before too, but now, OMG, it's anything she can get her grubby little hands on! But it's hard to find motivation when I have to get them both ready and downstairs, then upstairs at the end of it all!

Erin, yayyy @ coming home, I can't imagine the feeling. I love coming home after a short holiday, I can't imagine being away from Aust for so long!
That's excellent that Beth is growing so big. I love having bigger bubs, I thin Liam is going to be a chubba bub, he's starting to grow out of his 000 already and fits into some 00 and he already looks so big for his car capsule. I'm getting him weighed next wed just to see how big he actually is!
We have no routine here, except for DD'S bed time routine! I'm just trying to get through the days here, but at this age I generally just let bub tell me what he wants.

Tasha, glad Lucy's pooing better, ther's nothing worse than a constipated baby. Lily used to get it alot when she was having formula too, I used brown sugar too, works a treat and all natural!!

oookk, gotta go, that's all the time I get, sorry I missed some of you....Hello, and I hope you're all well.

kel, i hope you get a break soon , and have a chat to your doctor , i did say i was getting worried about you , it my not me full blown depression , but it sounds like you need a bit of help ... and a whole lotta sleep ...
i cant believe liam is nearly out of 000 , i bought gabriella a 0000 yesterday as i have a huge stash of 000 and they are all too huge on her .. and i bought some more nappies for over night and i had to buy newborn still , but omg she is getting soo big .. i look at her and just see how much shes grown and its amazing .. and i kwym by lily pulling everything to shreads ... nixon does that too ..

speaking of wich he is awake now ... best go ..

hope everyone is enjoying their weekend .

Hi girls, geez, it's been so hard for me to get on and have my usual daily BB fix over the school hol's. The kids are driving me insane - all I seem to be doing is washing, they use a damned new towel and set of clothes for each time they go into the pool. I kid you not I'm up to about 6 loads of washing a day. Hooray, Monday can't come around quick enough for me.

Arab is going great guns, I have been too slack to even weigh her but have to get her to the dr's this week as she has a red patch on her eyelid that I'm praying won't turn into a port wine birth mark. She has one already on the back of her head and at least it's covered by hair.

Take care in the heat all you Brissie girls. Talk again soon. xx

Hi girls,

Once again its been days since i have had time to log on here. Its school holidays here and my days seem to be full of appts. I feel so bad that i cant keep up with whats going on with you all like i did when i was pregnant.

We have been trying to sort Chardonnay out, she's still very unsettled. We put her on AR formula and it didnt do anything, so we put her on S26 Soy formula and so farrrrrrrrrr she seems alot better. If this doesnt work then i will try goat formula as a last resort.

Does anyone's babies have spots on thier faces and heads? C does and she has very dry, scaly skin on her ears too, like exzema or dermatitis. Im wondering if she has a milk allergy and its coming out in her skin and with her being extemely unsettled with reflux symptoms. Its so hard isnt it, you just have to use trial and error until you find what works.

Im getting a bit closer to fixing my stomach issues. Got the biopsy results and i dont have the helibactor bacteria, which is sort of bad really cos if i did i would be on antibiotics now and be on the road to recovery. One of the biopsies showed white blood cells and the recommendation was to test me for celiac, which means no gluten if i have it. I had the blood test for that on thursday. I also have to go on a stronger antacid which means i have to stop breastfeeding :( I cant beleive that, i finally get breastfeeding working for once (even though its not exclusive BF, i still feed her every day) and now i have to stop it cos of medical reasons. But i cant not take these meds, we need to get the inflamation in my oesophegus down, so need the stronger meds to do it.

kel- I would ring up the ENT and plead your case with them to get Lily in earlier, poor little girl, i know how horrible it is, i went through 7 mths worth of it with Ren :hug:

I hope you are all well, sorry no personals, soooooooo much to read. One day i will be able to keep up.