Babies Born August 2007

Hi

Mistyeiz,

I am too paranoid to have xavier in bed with us, but sometimes have him sleep on hubby's side (when he's left for work) so i can get a few more minutes shut eye in the morning. I have fed while lying down, and if you get in the right position it can be good. Good for your nipples too, to change positions

Sometimes I have felt a little engorged after he has had a long sleep, and often I start leaking too. It is, you will be happy to know becoming less and less though, 'cause yay we are at 6 weeks today. What I did was "favor" to a certain extent the engorged one. like every second time if that makes sense, but not for ever, just to help settle it down. I've also expressed just enough to get rid of that tight feeling eg 20ml. And massage is sometimes helpful, or just letting them drip on a towel :lol: sounds grose I know but can just give you that little relief.

If you do finish a feed and you don't think it's totally drained, make sure you start on that side next time and your body will start working it out.

Happy six weeks old to colby sara. and was there some one else born on the 3rd, I can't remember

For those that have MSN...Do you mind that i add you to my contacts??? You all can add me if you like!

Oh and i forgot to add in my previous post that i sometimes lie and feed Colby in bed. Sometimes its the only was i can settle her. Works a treat for us!

Bec - So they are 6 weeks today??? I was trying to work it out on the calandar today. Why do the tickers say a different thing i wonder? Oh and

HAPPY 6 WEEKS XAVIER!!!

Go 4 it Sara,

Re expressing, just checked in platinum section sum older threads. Barb reiterated the 'only till ur comfortable or u will make more'

Have added you Ali!

Sara, feel free to add me sara.

Um, your ticker, I had a similar prob with my pg one, it was on american time??

Could that be the reason

Re expressing, I emptied myself on the advice from my doc, and that worked for me.

Sara - MSN, did you add me? I haven't received the notification that someone had added me. Feel free to add me if you want though (and anyone else) The address I use is kirsten_deforest@hotmail.com

Hi All. Like Ali, I've been in Apr06 thread & lately in Aug07 thread. Although dont get much time on net lately.

Lanah Merilee was born on 14Aug07 at 2:12pm (as in siggie).

Ok looks like others have already suggested some of my responses, I started reading thread from beginning & typing responses as I go. Oh well, hehe.

Neuri, have u tried putting a little breast milk in the sticky eye? MW & CHN said it does wonders for eye problems & for ur nipples. ;)
I bought a Medela Mini Electric Double breast pump from ebay, got it for a bargain, paid $80 ish, it had cost the seller $260 new + cost of accessories.
Hehe funny on the hipsters.

For stuffy noses we bought Fess Lil Noses from a chemist, it has saline drops to loosen the mucus & a short time later u suck it out with the little snott sucker.
For wind with Holly, I'd burp her twice per boob & even try putting her over my shoulder or over my arm, we ended up buying Infants Friend wind drops from the chemist, only needed it for a few wks.

Sehra, I found between 2-3wks old that Lanah need a 50ml top up of formula at night coz i just didnt seem to have enuf for her. I persisted with the freq BF & with hot showers on my BB's & back to stimulate more supply. I dont need the extra formula now. To prevent mastitis I use the trick the MW tought us at hossie, massaging the sore lumps (blocked ducts) in ur BB's whilst either in shower or whilst feeding bub, they break up while ur doing it & it prevents it becoming mastitis. Oh & also make sure u empty the boob like Ali said. From my understanding, mastitis is caused by blocked ducts & the milk sitting in the BB for too long then becomes infected. MW said the best thing to do with mastitis is to feed regularly, easier said than done though I would think. With bottle feeding whilst BF, I only use the pigeon peristaltic nipples as they act like a mother's nipple.

Self-Settling, I used the controlled crying method with Holly & it worked fine with us, she started to sleep through just b4 4wks old & still does. Use ur judgement on the sound of the cries like the others have said, but the CHN said leave bub for up to 20mins, u should hear crying & break from crying & the crying will get shorter as the breaks get longer, it is a process they go through. I'm doing it with Lanah now too & she has already started to sleep through occasionally.

Erkk Rhiannon, hope the chucking has stopped. Holly & Lanah slept in a cot from day 1 in their own room. Holly moved to a big bed at about 14mths old b4 Lanah arrived.
As for favouring sides, have u tried moving things around to encourage him to look to the other side, eg: if theres an interesting painting on the favoured side of the room, move it to the opposite side. Also the tummy time helps to keep a rounded head.
When Lanah (Holly did same) seems to want to feed, getting frustrated opening her mouth & shaking her head but wont take either boob, I find I sit her up for several minutes & burp her some more & out comes a burp, then she happily goes back to feeding.
Wow at only having 1kg to go for ur pre-preg weight, I'm envious. It took me 7mths to loose 18/20kg from Holly (then fell preggas) & 4wks to loose 9/17kg from Lanah.

Ooh, good pick up Sara, hope that uve found the problem, except for u loving potato. As for AF, with Holly, I had postnatal bleeding up to 7wks & AF started at 8wks. With Lanah, postnatal bleeding slowed right down & changed colour at 2wks but then became heavier & red again, but seems to have stopped now at 4wks. It's not unheard of to get AF whilst BF. I BF Holly for 6mths & am planning the same for Lanah.

Ali, I find Holly gets sooky about once per day at me getting Lanah up for a feed, but about 15mins later she's off playing.

Hullo! Sorry this might be a bit long.

Been wanting to escape to the computer for a while now...Willa is sleeping semi soundly in her bouncer.

Sara - the doula course sounds like a great idea in the interim if you are deferring you studies for longer. Personally, I take my hat off to any woman (in this instance, u and Kirst) who studies while raising a very young child/children. I can barely read the newspaper my head is so muddled, let alone sit in lectures and things :P

mistyeiz- yup, I do feed Willa lying down on my side occasionally. Usually for her last morning feed (7 or 8am feed) if I'm wanting a bit of a lie in myself. Its great because you can get some more sleep or at least a rest while bub is on the boob. The downside is that when you do it for longer than 2 hours or so, you lose track of how well or how long bub has fed, being half asleep yourself. When I go to write down the feed in Willa's feeding journal, I have to write '7am to 10am random boob in bed' lol Also the leaking from my boobs has stained my sheets even after a wash.

Shell - I did end up trying applying some bm to Willa's eye and it did clear up heaps. It's miracle stuff, bm! Didn't think abt looking on ebay for pumps, will def. have a looksie as that works out much cheaper than leasing for $30 a wk.

Ok, so now on to my whinging...

We had a horror night last night (: Sounds awfully similar to what happened with Jensen actually, Rhiannon. BTW obviously u are doing a great job with Jensen because his weight is great for that age.

It has to be colic. I know she has wind issues and her poops are always an occasion for drama, but man it was constant SCREAMING from 7.30pm until 1am. She does this sometimes but this was the longest n most intense.

I was soooo upset and DH and I were very tense with each other because I just can't leave a baby crying and he can. Nothing we tried helped, not even Infant's Friend. If anything, I suspect the mixture made it worse because her poops became even more explosive that they distressed her. I didn't really give her the full dosage tho...was worried about the effect.

So i'm thinking she def. has wind & possible silent reflux. i reckon i scare myself sometimes with worst case secnarios. i'm happy treating with things like gripe water & IF and suppose will have to wait it out until she passes this stage. Am happy to do that.

i wish i was a more confident mum who had more faith in her bub. DH seems more intune with babies n doesnt over react like me. His reaction is "why does everything need to be an illness, she's a growing baby and her body is working itself out." Sigh.

Like right now she's a dream baby, just gave her an evening bath n she's dozing in my arms. just feel so overwhelmed n emotional sometimes. this motherhood gig is such a rollercoaster!

happy n relaxing weekend to all u lovely mummies :)

neuri

hey shell, just looked @ ur siggie - Lanah n Emma look very much the same! Wot do u do wen Holly sooks? I just let Sarah have her tanty then give her a cuddle wen she has calmed down.

Sarah has a viral infection n we have 2 keep her away from Emma 4 3-4 days. Thankfully DH doesn't have 2 work this weekend.

Mite have 2 put infant's friend into Emma b4 her feeds, as we r still having sum probs with wind. she only cries the wind cry (priscilla dunstan) so it get's annoying wen I'm trying 2 feed her n she is constantly arching. Speaking of which, gtg burp her more.

butting in to ask...

Ali, what is the wind sound like?

i think it's 'eair'.

r u thinking th@ mite b ur prob?

Neuri,
You are just as much in tune with your bub as your hubby, you just have had the opportunity to form a very intimate bond that only a mum can form, and it can be absolutely heart wrenching to think that you can't fix whatever is wrong with your bub. Remember boys and girls are different and just 'cause the 2 of you have different ideas doesn't mean either of you are right or wrong, just different.

I try to lie on a towel when I feed in bed.

Welcome shell

that eair sound, I've heard xavier make that, although its accompanied by a high pitched girly scream like noise. does that sound right?

Most definitely! quite deafening (sp?) cant imagine wot it would b like if i wasn't burping her regularly thru the feed!

HI guys! We had our first Health Check today, and Bailey is a healthy 4.82kg. Itt's nice to talk to someone and them tell you that you're doing a great job, isn't it? It just makes all the crappy times that much easier.

We had a strange day today. Bailey just woulnd't settle. I think that she was juggled around so much this morning that she just wouldn't settle for the rest of the day. I ended up taking her shopping in the Baby Bjorn, and she had a sleep in that. I was afraid that it would continue into the night, but I have to give three cheers for bedtime routine. She had her bath, then feed, and knew what was coming. When I took her up to her room at 7pm, her eyes were WIDE open, and they were closed before I'd finished tucking her in. We haven't heard from her since.

Neuri, I read an article recently about how mum's hormones are in tuen with bub's cries. There is apparently research that finds that when a new mum hears their baby cry, that there is actaully a chemical shift that brings on that maternal need to cuddle the child and protect it. Don't worry, I have this with my DH too. We just have different needs to them, but it doesn't make them wrong. Like Becca said, just different.

Hey girls!
I've added a few of you to my msn list... You can add me, it's good to talk to others going thru the same thing. I'm rlauchlan@hotmail.com

Omg - last night was absolute mayhem! Jensen started screaming at 4pm and at 8:45. Its gotta be evening colic. His stomach was rock hard and he was wrenching his little legs up. Andrew, on his way home, had stopped in to see his parents. I'd called him and his mother decided she needed to get away from the house (to get away) and come over too. I'm so greatful that she did, it really helped having someone else other than Andrew and myself to calm Jensen. I ended up sending Andrew out to get some Infants Friend from the chemist. It ended up working - but looking back, it seemed to take forever to work. In the end, I think exhaustion won out. Also, I lay with him on the bed, and lay him on his stomach and he seemed to have instant relief, and fell asleep. Despite all this, he still managed to keep his routine of 2 hourly, but dragged it out as long as he could - at one stage, almost 3.5hrs!! At one point I think I panicked coz my body must have realised that 2hours had past and he hadn't woken up yet and woke up myself with a fright to check on him! lol Mothers bodys are amazing works!

I also can't let Jensen cry. Andrew seems to have no problem and replies to me with - "Babies cry. Thats what they do." Thanks. Comforting. Thats not helping.

How do you put your baby down before they fall asleep? Jensen seems to fall asleep at the breast... or in my arms or against my chest. If I put him to bed too early when he seems to be asleep, he wakes up and wont go back. So I have to wait til he's dead to the world, then put him in.

What kind of nappies are you guys using? I want to start using cloth... maybe not exclusively, but at least for some times. ATM tho, we're using Huggies. I had to go out and buy the next size up, infant 4-8kg, coz the newborn ones (to 5kg) don't seem to fit him as well as I thought they should. They seem to leave a nappy mark on his backside - where the seams are to hold everything in. When I weighed him on Wednesday, he was 4.8kg. Friday, he was 4.6kg. Mind you. They were on 2 different scales and he'd only just messed his nappy on the Wednesday.

Do you count how old your baby is by week (eg: born on Saturday, therefore each saturday is a week til you get to 4 =1mth)? or by date? I don't know. By day - Jensen is one month today! If not, he's 1mth on Tuesday.... either way... Where did the month go?? It doesn't feel like I had a baby only a month ago!

For now, I'm off to find things I can sell on Ebay to make some money to spend guilt free!
Hope everybodys well. I'll be back later!

Huggies Newborn & Walker. Emma has only just gotten into the Newborn properly as she finally has a bum. Less Leakages! Sarah makes nappies leak if they are too low on her back. so she is supposedly too light 4 them. I count it by the date bcoz a month is 4 1/2 weeks n if u count by 4 weeks then a year is 13 months (i've confused myself).

Both my girls go down awake. 4 Emma i wait a minimum of 2 minutes 2 go in n settle her if she needs it, but she usually doesnt. Sarah can take 20 minutes or more, but we have dragged out the time b4 we go in gradually so now she's asleep by the time we r ready 2 go in. once the cry changes it gets slightly easier 2 ignore (not much but still...) If there r pauses they r just saying 'I dont wanna go 2 sleep, get me up!' an emotional cry that should never b ignored is more constant.

Gtg get my hair done!

Ali, I too let her have her tanty, then she starts to play with her toys or watches tv, usually on recliner with boomerang pillow on my lap & bub on top of that feeding so dont get down to give her cuddles, but i stroke her face/hair if she's nearby & has already settled down. When Lanah's in bed I give Holly lotsa cuddles & vice versa.
Oh poor Sarah, that'll be tricky, hope she's better quick smart.

Thnx Rebecca.

Ooh no Rhiannon & Neuri, hope u have a better night tonight.

Rhiannon, I find too that if bub is asleep on boob & put her to bed she sometimes wakes up & wants up, but if she's partly awake she'll generally go to sleep. CHN or MW mentioned something about coz they wake up & dunno where they r, who knows. Depending on if Lanah's still hungry or not then I'll leave her be & she'll be asleep within a few mins of cryin. Holly is sometimes out like a light or cries for a bit first, but just leave her (again depending on type of cry, again like Ali said, hehe).
Nappies: I'm using Huggies newborns with Lanah & (new) Snugglers walkers with Holly. I'll use Snugglers with Lanah when she's a bit bigger as they're much cheaper (especially the big boxes exclusive to bigw or when coles/woollies has them for half price then i really stack up) & coz I like 'em. Sometimes i use kmart nappies too (on Holly).
I have 19 Minappies clothies but only used 3-4 of them with Holly every now & then, gave up.
I count it by the date too, like Ali said.

Hi girls,

Just poppin in quickly before i got into town for the night. We are going in to Brent's parents who are house sitting for Brents aunty. I am going to have few drinks tonight too. And i might even hit the ol' kareoke(sp??) machine!! :lol:

Whats everyone else got planned?

Rhiannon - Good to hear from you mate. Jensen def sounds like he has evening colic. Poor lil man. Colby normally falls asleep on my boob and i pull her off, burp her then lie her on her stomach too go to sleep. We are also using Huggies Newborn nappies. I don't know how to count Colby's age. Someone told me by the date but that does'nt really work out does it. So i just do it by the day she was born. So that would have made her 6 weeks yesterday.

Ali - Oh poor Sarah. Hope she recovers soon for you.

Neuri - Yes uni is a major thing to take on at the moment, but to be honest i feel like the time is right at the moment. Even though i do have so much else going on. And for some odd reason i just feel like study at the moment. Weird i know!

Kirst - Added you to MSN. Great to see Bailey is growing nicely. I will get Colby weighed next week at the CHN. Can't wait to see how much she has grown!

Shell - Nice to meet you hun.

Hi to everyone else! Sorry if i missed you.

Well i better go and get our gear ready. You have to take the kitchen sink with you when you stay away overnight!

Hope you are all well...

Talk tomorrow!

Oh Rhianon, I hope that tonight is better for you and Jensen.

Sleeping - I wrap Bailey just before I put her down, so that wakes her up a little, but she seems to doze off pretty well. She's into such a routine, that she knows when it's bedtime, and doesn't fight it. If she does, we head in (don't wait an allotted amount of time at this stage - we think that she's too young for that. Not until after 6 weeks). We just lay a firm hand on her chest and do loud 'shhhhhh' noise. This usually settles her fine. We usually only have to go in once if at all. If it doesn't settle her, she's probably got a bit of blocked wind. Generally we can just pick her up, she has a burp, and put her straight back down.

Nappies - Infants (4-8kg). I had a box of Newborns ready before I went into hospital, but they were useless really. They were so tight on her from day one as she was so big. I struggled through using the whoel box, and am SO happy that I have her in Infants now.

Age - I count in weeks (by day of the week) until about 3 months and then go by months (day of month).

eBay - I have to list all of my maternity clothes. I have some stuff that was only worn once or twice. I have to get some money to buy some new clothes for ME!!! yay!

both girls r asleep! WOOHOO!

Had sum Me time today, but had 2 have Emma with me as made it easier 4 DH with Sarah. She slept almost the whole way thru. Got my hair n nails dun!

I have conjunctivitis so remembering not 2 touch emma's eyes till washed hands not easy! got her sum Brauer Colic Relief, seems 2 b working! Bit more natural than Infant's Friend.

DH has gone 2 a friend's house 2 watch the soccer so I am really gettin 2 relax 2 nite! haven't had time away from every1 since b4 Emma was born.

Hi all,

Krist I agree there is nothing better than a total stranger to tell you that you and your baby are perfect. But sometimes i'm a little skeptical and think they have to say the most positive thing to you, lol.

rhiannon, we still use the newborns, it took me a few weeks to really get the hang of them. I have found that Aldi newborns are a little more generous as well. but I'm not buying anymore newborns, once we run out we are moving to the next size. I am now submitting to me being way too lazy to use cloth nappies. However I have bought a cloth swim nappy. (although it appears to be like a wetsuit cover for a disp swim nappy??

alisondo, with the settlling that sounds familure to what I occasionally do. sometimes there is that obvious pain or need cry and i think those mum hormones mentioned previously kick in and I wouldn't be able to ignore him if I tried. then thers that waa don't want to go to bed, long pause, waa - I said I didn't want to go to sleep and eventually the pauses get longer and they stop.

Sara, I hope you have a fun night away. You might not being going far but it sure would feel good to stay away from home, plus i'm sure you will have people making you dinner and then breakfast it will feel like a mini holiday.

Age, I'm a bit like krist counting weeks and then will switch to months down the track.

well I hope everyone has a good night. I'm being extra naughty right now and eating rich choc choc chip ice cream strait out of the container. But I didn't buy any more icecream or choc biscuits or anything in the groceries, so this will be my last for a while :cry: it's time to give up all the naughty things i enjoyed while pregnant:cry:

Hi all, hope your weekend has been good so far.

Kirst, if that article is correct than my hormones are def. saying STRESS, STRESS NOW! whenever my bub cries. I can deal ok with the whinging type wah-pause-wah cries but the high pitched hoarse ones break my heart. I will never again underestimate hormones. They turned me into a a calm, sedate, perpetually cheerful Betty Crocker during my 3rd trimester. DH says he wants that 'me' back because I was so nice and never snapped at him LOL.

Rhiannon, I do find that sometimes it takes someone else stepping into a crying baby situation to see an improvement. I think that its a validation issue as well as a empathy thing. After dealing with a screaming baby for hours, its a change to have someone else there to assess the situation and acknowledge that yes, you are facing a stressful situation and yes, you are doing your best. I don't have my mum with me here so I'm always ecstatic when MIL or SILs visit and have a turn at the baby.

Sleep- During nightfeeds its easy cos WIlla falls asleep on the boob. In the daytime, it varies. After feeding and if she looks wide awake, we stick her in her bouncer and she may drift in and out of sleep on her own. Good day she sleeps on her own without too much effort. If she starts getting all cranky pants if its a 'bad' day', then we pick her up, bop her around for ages and she MAY fall asleep properly. We sleep her everywhere; on our bed, in her cot, bouncer, single mattress we have in front of the telly or sometimes in her stroller.

Nappies - Using Huggies Newborn at the moment but will have to change for the same reasons as you. She weighed 4.6g last week and seems to be getting too long for her nappies. They don't fit right anymore. Pity we still have 3 and a half boxes left! I might have considered cloth if we had the line space to dry nappies.

Age - I didn't even think of this b4. I went by each Friday since she was born, making her one month old this past Friday.

Had a nice Sunday today. We went to a local festival/markets and DD slept through the entire trip, even though there was live music and some really heavy bass thumping from the DJ stages. It was so noisy and chaotic. Funny going out with a baby. I haven't done it often since she was born but its like you have no other considerations, priorities or interests OTHER than the baby. We went with a friend and I'm afraid ignored the poor girl half the time. Even when we sat on a grassy spot under the sun to eat our lunch, I kept peeking under her stroller cover every 2 minutes. SIgh. My brain's turned to Mummy Mush :P

Neuri

Neuri, U should sell them on ebay, or take them back 2 the shop n say u accidentally got the wrong size. sum shops will let u switch. if they do, get crawler as infant dont come in boxes n crawler last heaps longer than nb.

Hi girls

Tired, tired, tired is all i have to say tonight. Just got home from footy and had a big night last night. Got too bed at bout 4.30am. Just settling the girls and hittin the hay myelf.

Hope you are all well.

Ni night!

Oh and look at my new sassy avatar!!

Hi all,

Neuri, I have troule handing Xavier over to others when he cries, 'cause he's normally pretty good, and when he is upset it's usually from being hungry or tired and no one else seems to be able to settle him, not even nathan.

Definatley take the un-opened nappies back, try a Woolworth's or a coles and just ask to swap them over for another size all the boxes cost the same amount they just have different amounts of nappies in them iykwim. I used to work at safeway and we never had a problem swapping them over.

Sara, hope you enjoyed your weekend, and I hope the girls are so tired themselves they give you a nie sleep tonight, without too many interruptions.

We have had 2 great nights in the last week. I woke up at 4.20 this morning (about 8 hours after xavier went to bed) and he was still asleep. I went in, yep still breathing, and ran back to bed as quietly as I could. he then slept until after 5 am, yay. So fingers crossed for tonight. I this happens many more times, i'm going to come to expect it.

Night all

Great news on Xavier's sleeping Bec - bring on 6 weeks I say!

Thanks Krist.

We had another pretty good night last night. he went to sleep earlier than I would have liked but still got 7 hours out of him, and the he went back for another 3 and then back again for about 2 more, so i got to have a nap until 8.45am. and now he is back in bed again already.
Well can't complain. he must know its a weekday, 'cause he certainly doesn't do this on the weekends.

So heres hoping we are now onto a good thing and these long sleeps will continue. Although I still need to go and have a peak every now and then and check he is ok

Time for a new thread everyone