Babies Born December 2005 #14

Beck, i can't believe you had no notice about BIL....that's AWFUL....talk about a full house! Hope he behaves for you.
Hope Christie that Owen is doing well, and like Beck said, try to take care of yourself. i wish I was closer so I could help out. Thinking of you.
Tiggy, hope the twins are well. Have they improved?
Hope everyone elses bubba's are well. Coco's exczma is back which means something else is not agreeing with her. I'd say it's the multigrain cereal I've given her the last few days, normally I go for oats. Am back on them...
hope everyone has a good night and a great sunday. I have college all day tomorrow, so will be on tomorrow night if time permits.
Best wishes to all who are sick. Go away winter and I hope spring brings some lovely healthy weather.
xoxox
PS I just posted in pregnancy thread. Have a read....Im a bit nervous...

Meg I wrote you back in the preg thread! <<hugs>> try not to worry! How is Coco going?

Beck how is the visit going? Maybe now that Maddy is here, the BIL wil be more of a help???

Hope your bubs are doing better Tiff and Christie!

Hi guys, just off to college. Had to pop on and say Coco has more teeth!! The two top ones are coming through, hopefully why she's sleeping badly. I know they're hurting her too, poor bub.
will be back on later, christie, hope Owen is getting better.
xoxox

Yayyy Coco! Maybe that explains why she was sick? It definitley explains changes in her sleeping patterns!! :)


ETA: Man I just wrote this loongg post and it didnt take! :( Well here's a summary...it was mostly about Abby!
1. She loves veggies, likes meat and fruit, and doesnt like dessert whatsoever!
2. She is crawling...just crawled across the room while I was typing! That was the furthest ever!!
3. She can sit from a crawling position! Woohoo big girl!
4. She loves my empty water bottles, and is currently playing with my empty snapple bottle
5. She is starting to clap!
6. OK enough about my Abby! lol!

How are all your bubs doing? I hope all the sick babies are getting better! Christie how is Owen doing? And Tiff and Meg how are your babies???

Beck hey! how are you girl? Are you going to start back in dance again soon?

OMG Abby is on a roll! I gotta go get her...my baby can CRAWL!!! Wooohoooooooo! :eek:

Yay coco on her top teeth. Logan has had his for a couple of weeks, at first he loved to grind his teeth, but thankfully he's gotten over that

Oh Christie, I hope Owen gets better soon

Hey Sarajo! VERY exciting about Abby crawling!! I think coco is close, she is pushing herself about. She has two new teeth, which makes four, so that is exciting. Hoping her sleep returns to normal (hold on, we don't have a normal) when her teeth are feeling better. She had two long sleeps for tim today...typical!!
Better run, just wanted to say hi and hope everyone had a great sunday. College was good today. Did one test (19 out of 20 I got) and an assessment and handed in my assignment!!
Christie, hope Owen is getting better. xoxo

Good job on your test Meg!

Nice to hear from you Melly!

I cannot sleep tonight! It is 2:30am here...what the @%#$ am I doing wide awake??? Argh!

well we have great news!!we just got home..all 3 of us!!my boy managed to keep down all 4 bottles today(half strength-but at least its fluid!!)he seems to have stopped vomiting(although its coming out the other end now!!)the doc said we could go home if we wanted or stay if we wanted..but after seeing the improvement today (and considering tomorrow is my bday)i just wanted him home..also because we'd been moved to a 2 bed room(we had been in a single before that)the doc said that he could catch a bug off anyone who shared his room, so better to be home i think..found out that they thought that he had meningococcal..eek!! can't believe they didn't say this earlier!!didn't want to freak us out i guess, but have been pumping him full of anti biotics for days now..the doc is going to call tomorrow to check on him and maybe we'll have to go back, but for now it will be so nice for us all to sleep in our own beds!!!
thanks so much for all your well wishes..it really means so much!!

Awe Yay Christie! I hope Owen continues to improve!! Meningococcal? I dont know what that is, but it sounds scarey! What a great birthday gift to have him home!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRISTIE!!!
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRISTIE!!!!!!!!
Such fantastic news to hear that Owen is improving. I can imagine your relief, it must feel like christmas and birthday and easter all at once!! There is nothing worse than having sick baby or children. Im so happy you're all home!!
Just a thought, having him on antibiotics, it might be worth seeing a natropath when he's better and getting some probiotics. Honestly since coco was on antibiotics, she just wasnt' herself, and the probiotics (I put some in her cereal) have really done wonders. She actually does normal poo's now!! Anyway, obviously get him better first, just something to consider. (very cheap and in fact Tim, Tilly and I are all on probiotics now)!!
hope everyone else is doing well.
Sarajo, you're lucky not to have heard of meningacoccal. It's a really really awful virus. YUK YUK YUK.
talk later xoxo

Hey Meg, There is meningitis here in the US, I wonder if they are related illnesses? It is just terrible. I have also never heard of probiotics! What is that all about?

Christie, how is Owen doing today? Are you having a good birthday?

Have a great day ladies! :)

Yes it's a meningitis thing Sarajo.
Probiotics is good bacteria for your gut. REally good if anyone has been on antibiotics. Just replaces the good stuff in your gut. coco has been on it about a week and has done her biggest poo's of her life in that time. Poor child has not been herself...no wonder she has had tummy troubles, she needed some help!!
just watching Dr Phil now. Some real werido's on there today!! xo

I'll have to watch it tomorrow! I wonder if I will see the same show you are seeing today! lol!

Probably different, but it was people who have weird social ideas or something. Very strange!!
Just put a couple of new pics up. off for a nap now xo

Hi Ladies!!!
Let me start by saying I am sitting in bed muching down a big packet of Cheezels with a can of diet coke(as if it matters it is diet), OMG comfort food.
I have had the worst week of my life, well it hasn’t been that bad but it hasn’t been great.
Okay, Jett is bloody sick again (as is every child in Australia) with this flu, sore throat and coughing/chucking thing. If I have to change his cot sheets once more I am going to scream. I know it is not my poor little pumpkins fault but arrrhhhh!!!!
OMG our landlord lives next door do I have to say anything else…
I have worked for a week and got the call saying they don’t need me anymore, What is with that? I hve got to pay the full rate for child care now as I don’t work 15 hours a week or lose my place.
:boohoo: boo hoo to me.
Melly – Well done with Uni sounds like to are blitzing it.
Christe - You poor Love. It is so stressful with a sick buba, I know.
Happy Birthday and what a great present to have both of your boys home with you for it.
Tiggy – Glad to hear that the twins are okay. My god and I depressed or what, I can just feel it creeping up on me… I will be fine but I just get stressed really easily and that is when I let things get to me..
Anyway how are you doing?
Saarjo - Hope you are doing well,
Meg – I am wondering if these big poo’s our babies are doing have anything with them being sick? Jett as woken the last week it back riders. My god they were off..
Anyway things can't get any worse????
Bed time for this tired mumma
:hello:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHRISTIE!
Sorry, almost missed it, I hope you had a good day and glad to hear Owen is improving.

Dani, OMG, I am too annoyed at your employer to even think of what I wanted to say about that.. GRR.
Sorry to hear Jett is sick again.

Sarajo, Yay on Abby crawling!

:hug: Dani How could they do that to you? How mean!

Melly how are you doing?

Meg LOVE the new pics! I just adore Coco's hair! I love the pics that show her teeth too! And I also love the pics of Coco and Tilly together! How stunning! Who is that in the professional pic?

Hows Owen feeling Christie?

OMG where did my newborn go? Abby just threw a FIT with me because she wanted to hold the food spoon. I have never seen her get so angry. She yelled at me in baby language, and I am glad I didnt know what she was saying, Im pretty sure there would have been some cuss words in there! She got so mad she took the food on my spoon and pretty much THREW it in her eye. It was hard not to laugh. I just cant believe she is developing an attitude already! She is growing up way too fast! :)

Dani, that's awful about work...what happened? I hope Jett gets better soon, it's all happening for you.
Hope everyone else is doing ok. We had another unsettled night. It's these two top teeth that I can see but they're not coming through. i'd say I'm going to have this for every tooth...bummer.
Had a late night. Bookclub went until 11.30pm!! However Im usually up with coco, so Im not that much more tired than usual!
Beck, how's it going with all the inlaws there? Have you had your driving test yet? Good luck!!
Hope everyone else is feeling well and has well babies!!
xoxo

Edited to add: By the way, the photo in my album that is not of me is of my sister and her two beautiful kids. Hamish will be three next week and Zara is 3 months younger than Coco. It's a pic for a modelling agency! xo

Where is everyone?? Beck, im missing you.. and Kate. You two have disappeared!! Mel, hope you're doing well. Tiggy, how are the twins? I saw somewhere else you said Ivy is lactose intolerant. How's all that going?
Dani, how are you? Is Jett any better?
Christie, how is Owen doing? Sarajo, how are you, how's the gorgeous active Abby.
Have wrapped coco tonight for first time in ages, I really think she needs wrapping. Will see how we go tonight.
Im so tired I could sleep now!! hOpe everyone has a good nights sleep.

Sorry I've been AWOL in the posting area. I've been reading but been feeling a little out-of-sorts; plus it's been busy with the parents-in-law & bil here. They all left this morning for Bundaberg and MIL & BIL will be back on Sunday afternoon I think. Wasn't all that bad having them here, just not much peace 'n' quiet. The builders have been here for the last two days doing the lining in the garage so you can imagine the challenge I've had putting Maddy down for naps.

Still feeling down in the dumps, starting to wonder if I have a case of PND. Does anyone know if it can hit you months after having bubby?

Selfish post I know, but I'll try and be back on later to do some personals.Hope your little bubbas are doing better at the moment ladies. :)

Beck, Im sure myself and some friends in MG have suddenly hit some kind of depression. i have to say IM feeling better with the sun out though. I don't think it would be odd to get PND now, I think in a way it's more likely. maybe it's worth seeing a counsellor or psychologist (Im all for that) and getting it before it develops. At least you can recognise it, the next step is to act on it asap.
My friend was actually going to look on the net if there's some kind of 7-8 months depression (as in when bubs is that age). I would think it has alot to do with the fact that our lives have changed in a HUGE way, and have done for the last year almost, and in a way we lose ourselves.
Maybe it would be good for you to get into dancing and start doing some things for yourself. is there a mothers group you could join, always good to have people to talk to who are in the same position.
Im off to bed. (its' 7.50pm) shocker!
Hope you start to feel better Beck. I tell you what, if you move here, you could join my mothers group!!
\Also make sure you get out for a walk everyday, there's something about it that makes you feel that bit better (better than staying in side). And remember, we're all in groundhog day and it will improve, you'll find yourself again. it's just so intense at this stage as they need us 24.7. I think it doesn't help that you haven't had a good sleep in almost 8 months.
hope you sleep well tonight xoxo

Beck I am feeling down in the dumps too...if u want u can read my sob story under the depression thread "whats wrong with me". I dont know if it is PND or just adjusting to being a mom. I hope u feel better soon though!! :hug: How's maddy?

Meg how r u? Cocos teeth come through yet..hopefully? groundhog day lol...thats right on! I hope wrapping coco worked for u tonight so u could get some decent sleep!! :)

Yey, the wrapping seemed to work!! She slept 7pm-3.30am then woke for one minute, then woke at 5am for one minute and I got her up at 6.45am. She had rolled for the second time ever and was on her tum. Her hands were free from the wrap, so I think I'll continue. Poor child has been waking herself up.
However, I think her nose is stuffing up, so we'll prob get a cold now and sleeping will be out the window!
Sarajo, will check out your thread. It is soooo normal I would say, they should have classes for us to go to at the 6-12 month point, to adjust to being a mum
By no means does it reflect the love for your baby either. I remember this happening with tilly. I really hit a brick wall at 8 months, and took up smoking!! That is so funny,, but I just NEEDED something to look forward to and it ended up being 3 ciggies a day!! I then started studying and eventually found work which really helped. This time I have no work to go back to so Im just on the look out for some easy part time work. otherwise study will have to do and in two and ahalf years I will start a business.
hope everyone is doing well. Tims tax just came through YEY YEY YEEY!!!!!!!! xoxo

Well, it all sounds like we are having a bad time of it.:(

Dani, Sorry to hear that everything is falling apart. Sorry about the job, WTF?? how mean to take you on and then let you go. Sorry too that the PND (pretty nasty dog) is out of control too. I hear you on that.

Meg, Poor Coco and poor you, you just haven't been cut a break, have you? I hope the wrapping helped. I still wrap my pair, I just find they settle better for me.

Sara, I read your post. I'm so sorry you're feel down. It's so hard as a new Mum and you DO lose yourself. Like you, I have no family here, so am very isolated and housebound. It's hard to get started on something too, to get motivated to take that walk or to push yourself to get out and meet others. I don't do it. I find it so hard and so I sit and feel bad. Will have to get out more. I guess, it's just making that leap.

Bec, I'm so sorry that you are feeling down too. It's not too late to get PND. Some women report it up to and including their baby's first birthday. Some women don't recognise they have it until their second baby. For me, I realised around the 9 month mark with the first set of twins vut was 5 months post Lily and around the five month mark for these guys. Will was a whole different kettle of fish. It's a horrible feeling because you feel that you should be happy because you are so blessed with your baby and it's hard to understand why you feel like you do when you have done the most amazing thing but in doing that, you do lose yourself and you do feel frumpy and different than before baby. I had counselling for the first time, I was medicated the second and I am on the verge of being medicated again. I'm just waiting to see if the feelings of loss of control and being overwhelmed subside after our little stint in the hospital. I can feel bad and ugly and feel that I am nothing but Mum to many and still reason with myself but when I start to feel as though I have no control over situations, I seem to lose the plot. It also get scary for me when I don't want to get out of bed.

:hug: Bec, I hope it's not PND but if it is, the it's good you have recognised it and also, it's not a death sentence, it does pass and it does get better. We are all here for you if you want to talk about anything, you know.

Happy Birthday Christie! I hope you and Owen are feeling much better. That Gastro is awful. It comes and it goes and then it comes back again. Ivy and Noah still vomit after some feeds so I am just keeping it to smaller feeds more often. Has Owen got the cough/cold that goes along with it? Must have been scary thinking that he might have had mennigicoocal! OMG!

Melly! Hi! :hello: Congrats on your first assignment! You go girl.

As for us, yep Meg, Lactose intolerance is the doctors new guess with what might be going on with Ivy. We are off to the paed today. I just want them to be well. I'm sick of all the sickness. Sarajo, has Abby's reflux gotten better?
Noah is alot better, although still coughing, as is Ivy. THe gastro is settling and we are starting to see normal nappies for Noah.
Here is our good news;
Noah can roll! He can roll and roll and roll around the room and he has popped his two bottom teeth. He is also sitting for around ten minutes.
Ivy rolled from her back to her tummy for the first time yesterday and she can sit for about five minutes.
She also started lifting her arms up for me when I go to pick her up! AWWWWW!
We started going to a babies group on Monday for babies who are delayed in their developmental milestones. It was great and we did lots of things to encourage them to roll, move, sit, crawl etc.
Ok, that's it from me, Ivy is crying, gotta go!

Thanks for your support Tiff and Meg.

Meg that is a GREAT idea to have 6-12 month postnatal class. You should start that up...I wish I lived where you are so I could attend!! Yay on Coco's good sleep! Wanna hear the sad thing, after reading your post, I though, hmmmm...smoking...maybe that will help? Yikes, <slap myself> :doh: I know that is not the answer! Yay for Tim's tax coming! What are you going to do with it? We get our taxes back earlier in the year so it is allll gone!

Beck I really hope this passes for us soon. It sounds like we are going through the same type of thing, but read my post and let me know if you feel differently.

I feel so bad that you have gone through sooo much depression Tiff. I know what you mean when you just dont feel like getting out of bed at times. Sometimes I feel like that. I love Abby to pieces, but sometimes I wish my sisters lived here so I could be selfish and have them watch her for a day so I can just mope. That sounds awful doesnt it. Getting out for a walk still has yet to happen. I am such a self pity party, it is just ugly. :boohoo: I really need to get out of this FUNK (and take that leap)!

Tiff I am soo happy for the twins and their accomplishments! LOL at Noah rolling across the room! I can just picture it! They are so adorable! Any signs of teeth in Ivy yet? Did Noah have a rough time getting his in? THat is great you have a group to take them to, it sounds like fun!!

I will be back later for personals, but just wanted to suggest something to Sarajo. Do you have any mothers groups around your area? A great idea they have is a babysitting club, so you clock up hours. You might mind one baby for 3 hours and then you are owed three hours and someone else might do that for you, then someone else for them etc. just an idea that you could start around your area, it might give you some well needed time off.
Tiggy, great to hear that the twins are doing so well!! they sound gorgeous. And I know in your position, I would be more than depressed, so you're doing an amazing job in my eyes. As is everyone else. when you think about HOW different our lives are post baby it is NO wonder that we get these depressive feelings. Its' a huge huge sacrifice, and everyone else around us continues on as normal. Hang in there beck, and mabye see if theres' some group around that you can join. so important to have support.
back later xoox

Hi girls *hugs*

I just was checking in on you Sara & Tiggy ;) I found with bf that everytime a feeding pattern changed, my hormones did too. Maybe it does have something to do with the ages of your bubs? I found at 7-8 months I hit a low point, as well as 4mths and well... sorry to say but 16mths and 22mths too... but I guess if you know its coming it can help?

Becka... give me a call anytime, I would love for you to be able to escape over here sometime away from BIL. Having him around would surely add stress into your life too. If you want a barrier of protection in the form of a mad 2 year old and rather large pregnant woman I'm at your service :)

Another thing Sarajo (as iM studying counselling at the moment, just have some ideas), maybe set yourself some small acheivable goals, such as 1 kilo weight loss, walk around the block every day, talk to one new person each day, change hair style/colour etc etc. Small managable steps that will make a difference.
But seriously my mothers group are my saviours. I highly recommend joining a group. You might feel that it's too much hassle now, but i assure you, you will wonder why you didn't join earlier. The support is amazing. It's like BB but in person!
talk later, have to do cleaning....talk about groundhog xoxo

Its just hard to get to a mothers group seeing as I have no car, and there are no busses out this way. There was a meeting for newbies last week and I talked Don into carpooling that day, and I ended up at the dentist instead. I like the idea of acheivable goals. Meeting one new person a day is impossible since I have no car and I know all the people on my block. The walk around the block...yes, I could try that. Thanks for the ideas Meg! So you are going into counselling? How nice! You will make an excellent counseller! :)

Thanks, Im doing life coaching, so counselling will only be a small part of that, but it's a great course!! Im learning alot!
Sorry, forgot about the no car. Is there a childhood centre or somewhere that you can walk to? What about the local shops. Could you start your own group?
It is hard and it's very isolating being a mum when you can't get out much. I wish I lived close by and we could have our own group! What if you found a group that met once a week or fortnight, do you think Don and you could work out getting you there?
Sorry< im prob not much help. Just wish I could pop around for a visit.
xoxoxo

Hey Christy,
Thanks for checking up on us. Are you feeling any better? I hope so.

Don't get me wrong Sarajo, I'm not all doom and gloom all the time. That is what is confusing about PND. You feel good, normal somedays and then others you feel like your whole world is collapsing.
I have had alot of depression but I have also had some really happy times too. I wouldn't consider myself depressed alot of the time, I'm just me. Also, the sad times and hard times they just seem to make me into a stronger person and define who I am, especially when i am feeling good!:)

ETA: Noah's first tooth came through when he was in hospital, so I'm not sure how much of his grizzling was tooth and how much was feeling sick. His second one just appeared a few days later, so, I'd say that that one was no problem at all. As for ivy No signs of any teeth at all yet!

Tiggy, it's amazing how the teeth can upset them. Lucky people who have no probs!! Coco's top teeth may not be coming, I have realised that she is clamping her mouth together, maybe to feel the bottom teeth on her gums, but I think they have caused blisters on the top gum. How awful. I just want the top ones through now so she can no longer do that.

I have been having fun on the net looking at things to buy with Tims tax. WE'd already talked about what we needed, so this is what we're getting (now we have got quite a bit of tax back, the purpose I suppose would be to pay tims uni debt. but we are great believers in putting that off until a later date!!!!!!!!!). So Im getting a video camera. And a digital SLR camera (love my camera's....have a bit of a passion for photography.) My current SLR is damaged and not taking great photos.
We are also getting a VACUUM cleaner. Im so excited just found a great one that gets rid of 100% of dust mites etc and is $299, so Im going for that one!! We will also get a new lounge when we move. Have seen some great deals at fantastic furniture. I know it's not practical, but I'd like a leather type one (won't be real leather). We have always had a crappy two seater, but this time I'd like either two two seaters, or a long comfy one!! Very exciting!! Then tim is getting new shoes.
So that's the plan. We also paid off his credit card and will save the rest for our trip to Vanuatu next year.
Wish I could go on a shopping spree now, but we really have to be careful....it's easy to spend itall straight away, but I KNow we have to focus on necessities.
Sorry to crap on, Im just excited. It is VERY rare that we even have enough to buy a coffee, let alone things like the above!!!
im off to meet some of the mums from MG (the depressed ones) so we can cheer each other up. Really wish you guys were closer.
Beck, come back on, maybe it will make you feel better. Imagine, you'll have your licence soon and will be able to move about more, and you may even end up in Sydney, and I will be there to keep you company!!
xoxoox

Hello from clingy baby central everyone!

Just a quick pop in and hopefully I will have time to catch up this afternoon. I havent had time to read anything since I posted, I open the page to read and then something always seems to happen! So I thought I would just post, then read later.

Have been feeling a bit overwhelmed lately, with being sick and with Jasmine being so clingy..... Its funny how the smallest things can seem so big when you realise you havent had a moment to yourself for so long. I think everything has just come down on top of me at once.... but it could be worse so Im getting over it! Im just jack of everything and want to "just be" for a little while but its so impossible!

On the plus side, I taught Jasmine to open and close her hand for "hello" and to wave it for "goodbye" Very exciting!

Oh and on Monday night I think someone kidnapped my good baby and gave me a dud for the night so I appreciate Jasmine more........ she would not settle. She wouldnt sleep. She was so exhausted, as was I and she didnt fall asleep until 7.30am Tuesday morning!!! I was a write off! But she has purple gums on the bottom next to her teeth so I assume she is/was in a fair bit of pain. But panadol would not help her at all. I was soooo relieved she went back to normal last night, **** I forgot how bad it can be!!!

Im really sorry about having such a self centred post but I just had to get it out somewhere.

Hopefully I havent missed anything too huge and will be able to catch up this afternoon when I get back from my Dr's appointment!

Thinking of you all and hoping all of your babies are well.

Looks like I have lots to catch up on!!! Busy girls

Kate, great to hear from you. Without even knowing, you have slotted right into the latest discussion!!.....feeling a bit blue! Funny how it has hit us all at the same time.
I just went to lunch with some MG friends and had a glass of red, I feel pretty spaced out at the moment. Infact I could've happily gone to the pub after for the afternoon......ah, my old life, there I go all nostalgic again!!
off to have a 10 min nap now before getting tilly...then I've got parenting class tonight. It's just all fun and games here..
lxoxo

Have not posted for so long and you all seem to be in such tune with each other I almost feel as if I am imposing - but I shall write anyway.
My baby girl is growing up so quickly and I can understand why everyone is feeling a little sad with the baby blues - I think I got mine at around 7 months but the walking thing has really helped me - unfortunately not with the fact I can't fit into all of my jeans yet but anyway......
As I was reading all of your teeth stories my teeth started to hurt - I must be going in for sympathy as my baby now has a bottom tooth and it looks as if her other one will be here anyday.
We have been trying to lengthen her night sleep and from advice from my midwife now no longer BF between 10pm and 6am. I thought we would be in for a very long night but we are onto night 3 and I think it may work she only woke at 4am last night and I went in rolled her over and she went back to sleep. I think I 'might' have a baby that will sleep soon. Fingers crossed.
It is so good to type all of this and know we are all in the same boat.

Renee,
Hugs, you sound a bit flat.
Hope that tooth comes through and that you get a sleeping baby soon.
You are NOT imposing at all, keep posting.

Hi Kate and Renee! It does sound like we all hit a postnatal speedbump that just has us all down in the dumps. Just remember, it will pass! I keep telling myself that! I wish we all lived close so we could all go out and have a spoil the mum day!

Kate YAY on Jasmine waving hello and bye bye! She is a super-smart baby! The purple gums...does that mean more teeth? Does she have any top teeth yet? How are you feeling?? :)

Renee, Woohoo on the tooth! The second one ususally follows pretty quickly! Sounds like she is doing well with the change in sleep! I cant wait to see pictures of her! Are you planning on making a Marnie site? If so, there are lots of sites that have free baby websites or photo-storage! If you need help, let me know and maybe you can email me some pics and I will make a website for her!

Meg, I hear ya! I had a glass of red wine last night after abby went to sleep and I was sitting there talking to the neighbors and boy did my past come back! You should ask some of the gals in your parenting class to have a mum's night out! I have been longing to do that, although it will be a couple weeks because this weekend is my friend's baby shower! Wow how fun to go shopping with the tax money! I cant wait to see more coco pics and videos taken with the new equipment!

Tiff I know what you mean! I feel down in the dumps at times, and other times I am so happy. Dont worry, I dont think of you as being down alll the time. I just know how it feels with one baby, and I cant imagine what you have gone through with all of yours! I am sure these times do make us stronger!! :)

Beck how are you doing? :)

Well, thats all for now! I hope I didnt forget anyone! Have a great day!!

Eep sorry to hear you've all been a bit down lately. I have too, but I have just thought it was from having a super clingy baby, no time to do assignments and no sleep. Although I did do an assigment on Tuesday night that was due yesterday. Now I'm in the midst of trying to write an essay that is due today. I have been trying to get it done for weeks, gathered all the info and then whenever I tried to sit down and write it something would happen or go wrong and I'd have to put it off LOL. I need to flesh it out some more. not enough words, I swear I am becoming obsessed with word counts! AH! Ok.. that is my mini breakdown.. for now.

On a good note I got some more professional photos done of Logan this afternoon. I wasn't planing on it, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. The photographers said they were so glad that they saw me & Logan because they just adored him.

Sarajo, I don't really have any helpful tips for you that Meg hasn't already covered. I just wanted to say I can empathise.

Renee, Post when ever you want, please do not feel as though you are imposing. I can't talk though since I felt the same way when I first started to join in and still do sometimes LOL

Tiff, thank you! I was so sure that I would fail, so when i saw the mark I almost fell out of my seat. My family bought me presents to show how proud they are, that was a nice suprise.
Yay on Noah's & Ivy's achievements! Isn't it so wonderful when they put their arms out for you?

Sorry, will do other personals later, just popped in for a few minutes to have a break

No one should feel they are imposing, we are all friends here!! Renee, good to hear from you!
Mel, sounds like you're as busy as!!
We had a crap night last night. Just when Im thinking it will get better, coco goes and gets a runny nose and could'nt breath....why why why. I know that this huge lack of sleep is getting me down. The worst part is Im sure coco is a fine sleeper (she used to do all night) but we've just had this huge run of starting solids (constipation), chest infection, teething, throat infection, teething and now teeth and nose.....I think I was up 6-8 times again last night..
Beck, we MISS YOU...I so hope you're ok. Seriously anyone who is feeling really bad, go and see someone (Dr ). Don't feel bad if you don't have to. And it's all normal, no one will make you feel guilty or anything.
hope everyone has a good day. xoox

You lovely ladies nearly made me cry when I came on here and saw all of these lovely messages. I'm ok, I'm sorry if I've worried you by not posting on here...I guess I've just been feeling down and when I do, I lose all motivation to do anything. I don't think I'm necessarily any worse than before; I just think I'm now recognising the signs that have been around since Maddy was born if that makes sense? Maybe it's just now that we've gotten into a pattern that I've actually got 2 seconds to myself to realise what I'm feeling?

The good news is that I went to the gym yesterday for the first time and had my personal training session. OH MY GOD. I cannot lift my arms up today... *L* But he did target the 'back fat' & 'tuckshop lady arm' areas. I'm totally embarassed to say that I almost passed out at the end...I wasn't even doing anything cardio, just using a machine and suddenly I couldn't see! *LMAO* I'm going to my first class on Saturday morning called 'Body Balance' which is tai chi, yoga & pilates all in one. :)

Meg - I think it's fantastic that you're studying life coaching. It sounds like a perfect little niche for you; and I love some of the suggestions you gave to Sara. I'm certainly going to use some of them myself. So sorry that Coco was ill last night and didn't sleep very well for you - hopefully she will sleep today so you can get a nanna nap in! hehe I would love to join your mother's group if we move to Sydney....or like you said, we could literally make our own! *L*

Sarajo - {{{{hugs babe}}}} I truly hope that you are starting to feel better too hon. I haven't had a chance to read your post in the depression thread, but from what I've read from your posts here, we are literally interchangable. How is little Abby doing? She sounds like she's just started to crawl up a storm. I wish we were in the US (or you in Australia) so that we could all just catch up and chat. Well, if you, Don & Abby want to take a holiday, come to Australia! You wouldn't have to pay for accomodation, you could just tour Oz by visiting your BB friends! hehe

Christy - thank you so much hon! :) How is Matilda going? I can't believe how fast (well, to me anyway) your pregnancy has gone. Any names picked out for the new one yet? Have you got anything interesting planned for the next few weeks?

Kate - You sound like such a busy woman! I hope your 'good' baby came back over the last few nights and you've managed to get some sleep. Sorry to hear that Jasmine has been a clingy little girl...it does make it difficult to do things when you're the only one they'll go to doesn't it? I'm with the other girls, Jasmine sounds SO advanced with her development! Has a new tooth popped yet?

Melly - how is everything going with ex-DF? Logan is such a cutie...I love looking at the photos on his website. Can't wait to see the professional photos that you've had done - how did Logan like posing? You are such a clever woman, it can't have been easy getting such a good mark in your studies with a young bubba. I have trouble constructing a normal sentence together these days, and here you are acing your assessment! hehe Has your Mum been helping you with Logan while you've been writing your assignments etc?

Tiggy - {{{{{}}}}}} I can't believe how much depression you've had to deal with post-babies. Everytime I think I can't be in any more awe of what you've dealt with; I hear something new that just paints you as a super-mum in my eyes. I feel so selfish when I'm feeling down because I tend to want to just off-load Maddy to someone else; I cant' imagine how you feel when you've got several children needing/wanting your attention. Somtimes I honestly think that taking that step and talking to someone (getting some counselling/medication to help) is harder than admitting you might have PND. So glad to hear that little Noah has cut his first tooth and his nappies are getting better. Poor little Ivy, she's really had a rough trot hasn't she? WOW on the rolling and everything....I bet you're looking forward to them crawling with some trepidation! *L*

Christie - how is gorgeous little Owen!? You deserve a medal for everything youv'e had to deal with lately - it must have been so scary for you to hear they thought it might have been meningitis. I would have lost the plot totally had I been in your place; and here you are pregnant with no.2 as well! Have things gone smoothly since you went home from the hospital? Please make sure you take care of yourself! {{{{hugs}}}}

Renee - it's lovely seeing you here; I hope you feel welcome to our little group! The other girls are right, we love seeing new faces in here and I hope you feel like you are welcome - you could never impose! We love to chat and love hearing about each other's babies; plus we're always happy to help where we can. I can honestly say I don't know where I'd be right now without these fantastic ladies...I'll always feel a connection to the girls I shared my pregnancy with. Marnie sounds just gorgeous, I love her name. How did she sleep for you both last night?

I'm so sorry if I've forgotten anyone...this has been a mega post, so I'm going to hit post and then go back and read some posts. I'll come back and edit when I come back!

HUGE HUGS to everyone and a big thank you. I've really appreciated the support and wishes over the last few days. Hope you all have a fantastic day...must go, Maddy is crying in her playgym!