Babies Born June 2006 #30

Mel - What a fright, so glad Marley is okay, Don't apologise for not doing personals, after your eventful weekend that's the last thing you should be doing, get some sleep!
Jess - wouldn't it be great if the house was available, good luck.
Sim- glad you still have a comp.
Can't spend too long on comp, it is boiling here, no fan in this room. After a 40 degree day the change never came and house is so hot still. Am taking Nathan to dr tomorrow as he is very wheezy, he seems okay otherwise tho, maybe a bit more clingy if anything.
Hi to all hope everyone had a good weekend.

Mel - i agree with Karen - dont stress about personals!! OMG i would've freaked out too, but at least it was nothing too serious in the end. Cant wait to see pics!!

Karen gosh, Sydney weather sounds AWFUL!! Our cool change finally came, im praying for it to had your way as well..

Off to take the kids to daycare,and going to do something with my day.. dont know what yet LOL. THINKING about decluttering my garage... but a very BIG all day task...

oh Mel.... Poor Marley, although she sounds like a trooper, what an eventfull day, I am glad your little munchkin is ok now, did you manage to get any sleep last night? Poor dh too he must have felt horrible.
Sorry your day didnt go according to plan, I am sure Chelsea had a great day all the same and your friends are lovely for taking lots of picks and cleaning up.

whoo hoo look at my new ticker! Thanks Bath and thanks Kathryn for uploading!

Mel, I was wondering where you had got to! That explains it, you were ambulance chasing LOL! What a great kid Marley is - she must have been lapping up the attention, and withouth a mirror, wondered what the fuss was all about. I agree, what a great bunch of friends, too, who can hold the fort like that. I reckon my friends would do that, but I wonder how many people can say the same thing? What a day, anyway!
We haven't got the results yet of Oscar's sample, but I expect we'll hear from the doctor soon. I called earlier and the results hadn't come back from pathology yet, so more waiting.
I'm a bad mummy - I forgot completely that I was supposed to book in the farrier for my horse's feet. I can't ride him with his feet the way they are and with Oscar being such a velcro baby all weekend, I just plain forgot to organise a farrier for my other favourite boy (I have 4!). What will it be like when I have more kids??
Bath - where is it that I can obtain those age-appropriate suggestions for answering kids' questions about sex? I have been aware for some time that these things need to be addressed well in advance of puberty and wanted some constructive ways to deal with it. There is no way I'm passing on my mum's (and even my dad's) hang ups about sex onto my kids. She tried to with me, making me feel deviant for being a bit interested in the human body when I was about 9 or so (like, what kid isn't, especially when they have just seen their own first underarm hair!!), because she had some terrible experiences that no child should have and thought that if I just steered clear of anything to do with sex that I'd be fine. Well, that was crap and somehow I ended up with a healthy view of sexuality. After all, it IS how everyone got here, so why do we pretend it's something that is only relevant to adults? It's the crux of our lives, if you think about it! My niece and nephew are only 8 and 11 and they have been normalised to sex for years. They know what it's for and who does it. They also know that there is a stage when they will be ready for it and it's not now. They will never be afraid to ask about it when their time comes, so their parents will be able to guide them without using euphemisms or sending them to a teacher or other person to do what is a parent's job. I think it's great and that's what I want for my kids. Yes, it's weird to think of these little babies one day being intimate with someone you don't know yet, but it's the life cycle. The less hang ups I send Oscar out into the world with, the better the world will be! One thing you can never teach them is what sex will mean for them when they get there - so as much as you are taking away the mystery (and with mystery, the misconceptions, half-truths and myths), you can't take away how special it will be for them :) I remember going in to my mum and saying that she doesn't need to worry, the school taught us about sex. She replied 'oh, that's good', and it took her a while to approach me again to ask me just what it was that we learned. Then I was too embarrassed to tell her, so I just told her in very vague terms and had no questions to ask of her because she was clearly uncomfortable. I come from a family where my dad made me return to the library "Every Girl" because by explaining contraception it was condoning sex for girls, and I wasn't to read about it because I wouldn't need it!! Repressed Irish Catholic. Out of sight, out of mind! Ha! I was so angry about it because no-one was giving me proper explanations about things I felt I needed to know about, so I would read the book in the library instead of taking it home. Even I knew it was not a good move for them to think that because they wanted me to wait till marriage I didn't need all these other things explained to me. And, yes, because of that mistaken approach, I did some really silly things, for not having proper guidance to begin with. History will not be repeated in this household! Anyway, thanks, Bath, for bringing this up, starting with telling us about Verity - it really is something I had thought about and wondered what was the best way and best time to start. Waiting for their cues is so OBVIOUS...why didn't I think of that?? LOL! Are you just the Mother Bear of this thread, or what? :D
Dinner at my dad's last night was lovely...and I made my first pancakes! I didn't get to make them for lunch (had interruptions), so I took my mixture over and we had pancakes for dessert. It wasn't bad, but there is room for improvement.
(I kid you not, about 50 c0ckies have just squawked past my place just now, it's a wonder Oscar didn't wake - they should be classified feral so that we can sling-shot them out of the sky! The tourist trade up around here keeps them in unnatural numbers...)
OK, back to this household for the day - nappy folding (ahhh, I so bliss out doing that!), floor mopping (huge muddy dog paws to be removed), back room tidying (mammoth job, like Simone's garage, I imagine!).
Catch you all later!

Hi again.

Mel.. sorry to hear about Marley's reaction but no one was to know she was allergic to that formula! MY SIL has given us a tin of Nestle Gold 1 (from birth) that she'd opened a while ago and it's half empty. She BF's and bought it for emergencies. It clearly says on the tin "use within 4 weeks of opening" so I'm afraid it would do some harm if I use it. Am tempted to give it to the dog!

Its going to be a hot one again today. 32 I think. Will try and do some sewing after I make a trip to the post office. Not much else to say.

Aleise fretting by herself again *sigh* not a moment's peace!

Later all!

Ohh Bath: Thanks for the avatar update (if you did it).. Just noticed thanks!

Janine - When the kids were bf, i used to have a tin of formula in the cupboard for emergencies, and let me tellyou, it was never used within 4w!! I think Decans tin i had for 6 months... and it did him no harm. I think they say that so you will throw it out and buy more tins from them :rollyes: I wouldnt be too worried, honestly. Love the new av:)

I'd probably err on the side of caution with that formula tin, Neeny and Sim. Formula is inherently subject to bacterial colonisation, by the nature of the processes used to make it and its ingredients. It might be ok for one child, but that's no guarantee that it will be ok for another to take 'out of date'. Hence the rigorous sterilising that is required when using formula, for the Just In Case scenario. That's not my opinion, that's anything I've ever read about formula in baby books and on the web :)
You can get small sachets of formula for emergencies when BF'ing - not too cheap, but cheaper than buying a tin and discarding most of it because you have gone over the Use By date. One of the mummies in my Mothers Group orders hers online to get a slightly better deal, and she's the one who told me about it.
I've just noticed some red spots on Oscar, going to look up this Rosie Posie thing that some of your kiddies have had (wonder what Google would come up with if I typed that in!)...

Neeny and Nic loving the new av's, can't wait to join and get mine up there it looks trick, I'm so happy with it.

Mel how scary for you and poor DH, I'm glad that Marley's alright and that Chelsea enjoyed her party, what great friends you have as well.

Well for the last week or so I've been having problems with Wyatt, he's been going to bed alright and about an hour or two later he is up and crying/whinging and he will not resettle. So he is up until about midnight doing this and when he finally goes to sleep, I have to get up again at about 4:30-5am for Cody's feed, so I feel knackered everyday and I still have no idea what's wrong. I just don't know what to do anymore, I feel like I'm at my wits ends with him, I frustrated and tired and confused and now I'm venting when that's not what I intended doing. I'm going to go hang out some clothes, will be back soon.

hugs xoxo

Amanda - Declan has been doing the same thing lately, and since i've been having probs getting to sleep, he generally wakes up just as im dozing off, takes ages to settle down, and then wakes the others up (he shares a room with Xander). All i've been doing is taking xander out and lettin him scream himself to sleep. He doesnt know what he wants at that hour!! he eventually goes back to sleep within about 5-10 mins.

IK - I've never "vigourously" steralised my kids bottles, a society being overzealous with these things is whats causing the surge in allegies and their severity. I boil my bottles, but i do not use the milton or anything similar, and i use filtered water (through a jug) but i dont boil the water. And i have 3 perfectly healthy children (Xander asthma is hereditory!) I was told what to do by a nurse, and its worked for us...

Amanda - Poor Wyatt, poor you! Have you taken him to the doctor? Is that a stupid question? Sorry, just know that I'm thinking of you :hug:
Looked up Roseola, not that I needed to, I should have just searched for Bath's posts on this, cos it read the same as Bath's descriptions, and seems to be what is up with Oscar. He has also got a slightly white coated tongue, so he might even have thrush as well. His groin area is red and blotchy, so I'm inclined to think that there is a bit of thrush thrown in as well. Oooh, doc on phone now! BBL
ETA: She agrees, the tail end of rosie posie and maybe a touch of thrush :) We're at the other end, yay!

Sim, I'm not one for having Oscar in a sterilised environment, either, as anyone would be able to see just walking into my house (or seeing me let him let loose in the garden or the lawn with leaves)! The formula is a different story, though. I don't sterilise my bottles when they have EBM in them because hot, soapy water will clean that up no worries. Formula is subject to spores and it's something you are putting into the baby's stomach, so, yes, you are taking a risk there. It's great that your kids never got anything, but I wouldn't recommend anyone stop sterilising if they are using formula, or to let the Use By date slip too much on a tin of formula, but Neeny's already indicated she won't anyway, so that's sorted :)
Anyway, off to the chemist now. Geez, I'm loving this weather - I love how Melbourne weather gives us a break before launching into hot weather again!

Demanding kids here... but an eye-of-the-storm ATM.

Neeny: Kathryn did your Avatar... can't claim the praise for that one!

Nickers: Yay! Good to see my handy work up with your avatar! As you can see, I like to do an entire "make over" when I do avatars... I like them to look as close as possible to the person :) I'm a bit proud of that snowboard too, if I can say so myself hehe.

IK: There is a fantastic and hilarious children's book about Growth and Development that you would love... I just need to write down the exact title and author next time I'm in Borders... I'm going to buy it for Wade soon. When I was working with kids I also knew about a few other references whgich i've since forgotten but I'll chase the tiles/authors up for you too. Maybe next time we meet in Borders i can show them to you for a flick-through. Also I've found that an easy way to get kids used to feeling comfortable about the whole issue is to not be overly modest. Wade still joins me when i'm having a shower with Niall for example. I've read that this is alright to do but ALWAYS keep the doors closed when TTC etc. That's really important. Our children never need to know about their parents doing that and I've read a lot of research saying that it's not wise as little ones think the parents are in pain etc (LOL). It can sound quite frightening. Anyhow too much info for this thread but I don't know about other Junies parents but my mother didn't close the door with her many boyfriends after my parents divorced and it gave me serious hangups indeed. Nowhere is it recommended that we share everything with our children. And I can safely say it seriously damaged my relationship with my mother. I soooo didn't want to know what she was doing! Even to this day I don't like people sharing much information about their initmate lives. Still, this forum is kinda different I guess, I agree that we should be able to discuss anything within reason :)

Mel: OH! You must have been beside yourself with worry! But big thumbs up to your DH and your friends :) I hope Marley is %100 again... and what about her scalp? Looking forward to seeing you both...and maybe Chelsea! Again soon :) We'll have to organise another Friday meetup in MC. before school goes back.

gotta go... back a bit later...

Bath - the boys still have showers with me (most days it the only way i can have a shower...) Either that or i stic the boys in the bath while i jump in the shower. So they always see me. XH says we should cover ourselves up now, but i want to teach them that bodies are natural things. My dad used to take us to the nudie beach when we were younger my sister and i would've been about 5-8 years old) and we never thought anything of it, what we saw. I never went naked (i was getting to that stage where bits and bumps were starting to make an appearance, and while nudity was fine at home, not out in public!) When i was young, we never were worried about paedophiles or anything like that (this was a pretty friendly place we went to, not a very big crowd, so everyone was mates and strangers or perves were looked down upon) XH on the other hand was like you bath, his mum used to bring home all sorts of different men. It does affect you. And thats why i will not do that to my children (if i evert start dating again LOL!) All right, im finished my rambling, all-over-the-place post now!!

Simone yeah I usually let his whimpering go as he shares a room with Kailen and Lockie, but it's when he screams that I have to get him out. Last year he was having night terrors and I don't know if this is them again.

IK I haven't taken him to the doctor yet, I have to go on Thursday to get Codys injections so if he's still doing it up till then I will be getting the doc to look at him. Lol at Rosie Posie, hope the thrush clears up quickly.

Bath can you still post the names of the books please. Both DH and I still walk around nude and go to the toilet with the door open and all the kids either have a shower with us or a bath together so we have no issues with nudity with them. With DTD we either do it at night when everyones asleep or when they are outside playing, I agree thats something kids do not need to see. When I was pg with Cody, Kailen asked me how he was going to come out and I told him from my vagina and he said alright and that was it, so it was pretty easy and it satisfied him with my answer.

Ok have to feed the boys they're going feral.

hugs xoxo

If Xander doesnt want to get out of his bed, sometimes i wil just put declan in the lounge room (i have a portacot set up in there so Anneliese gets tummy time without the boys jumping all over her!! and just chuck him, a pillow, blanket and "normie" (his toy kangaroo he loves) in and let him cry. Maybe its just a phase?? (hopefully...)

Hiya Amanda and Simone, mine are unsettled too today... too much fun on the weekend with parties etc... I'll see if I can hunt down the book that I wanted to buy for Wade... my memory's like a sieve at the moment... but it's a goodun :) How's your wrist feel today Simone? Oh and I'm glad it just turned out to be Rosie Posie LOL IK... Niall didn't have the white tongue so I think you're right with the thrush suspicion.

better get back to it... lots of clothes to hang too... lucky I didn't tumble dry them like I was almost considering this morning... sun's out :)

ETA: :) isn't it funny how your house can be in total chaos with kids screaming and crying one minute then all of a sudden peace descends! This has just occured here: Niall was screaming in his cot... Verity was moaning because she wouldn't take a multivitamin and so I refused her ice-cream...Wade was jumping up and down and ripping books ARGGH! Then just in tha last 5 minutes... Niall fell asleep after about 4 strokes upon his brow, Wade suddenly decided to go outside and play in his sand pit and Verity has gone for a lie down in her room... *loooong sigh* cuppa time... THEN washing! LOL

*yay* fo quiet time bath!! I have a kitchen full of dishes, 2 loads to go out, 3 loads on Anneliese's floor ready to be sorted and put away... and since this is my quiet day before the kids are home for the next 2, i really should be cleaning... ill get up soo :) Have to wash all the sheets too *sigh* the work is never ending...

Ik, I have to disgree re. bacterial colonisation of formula. the rigorous sterilising is actually more to do with the third world nations and their dirty conditions and water. I had a friend who worked in R&D, and they said it's also to protect against liability. I agree with Simone, 2 kids later, I only sterilise Ruby's bottles cause our water doesn't get hot enough. I heard the spores and bacteria are only a problem when they come into contact with water? if you've heard different that's kind of important! we tend to use up a tin in 5-8 weeks as Ruby is looked after by my mum 3 days a week.

SIMONE - I just checked out your kids' sites - omg such cuties! How beautiful is Xander?? My husband is Alexander and has the same colouring. If I get a boy I hope he looks just like Xander, and that's one of the names I really like too.

amanda3 - My nephew is 3.5 and he has night terrors still. Last night he woke at 11.15pm screaming his head off, and went for 3/4 of an hour! My poor mum, she had 4 of her grandchildren there for a sleepover! It could be teeth or any number of things, but it sounds pretty normal. Hope it's just a phase.
I had night terrors till I was about 11 really, I have a very vivid imagination. They were talking about it in another post, a night light is supposed to be very helpful?

BTW with the whole sex and awareness it's definitely parental attitude, but I think it's partly personality, my 4.5 yr old still has no idea about the difference between boys and girls. She'll strip off at a moments notice and all her dolls are always nude, I dress them but she takes all their clothes off! We don't really talk about stuff, but there's no privacy (in the bathroom) apart from DTD etc. obviously!!

:lol: But her friend, same age was in the backseat of the car one day and announced "hey mummy I have a hole down there!" Her big sister all of 6 answered "Let me see. Mummy do I have one of those?" SOO funny.

NICKERS (and simone) - do you notice a difference in your kids' development due to being premmie? It sounds like Nixon is spot on for milestones?

amanda - dont get a dream baby nightlight (kmart and safeway sell them) as mine goes through globes every 2-4 weeks!! at about $6 a globe its killing me... i just put a 25w pearl globe in their lamp, perfect and cheap.

Nickel - thanks :D i like to think my kiddies are beautiful too!!i got xander from alexander, but went with the short version, because i didnt want him to be called alex.

Hmmm, Nickel, Sim and Neeny - I've told you all that I know on the subject, so I can comment no further! I just thought I'd add the caution that I had read so much about, but as you all use the stuff (rather then merely read about it LOL), I'll leave it up to you :) As for third world countries, the last thing they need is formula (including for reasons you stated, Nickel), but that's another discussion in another thread! You'll have to discuss the merits of sterilisation amongst yourselves from here on in, over and out :biggrin:
It's weird, in my family my mum had no compunction being nekked around us, but to be interested in the body in general was a bit scary for her. I think she did the best she could, given her childhood trauma and I don't begrudge her, I just know I'll be doing it differently because I dont' have that baggage. As for DTD, we wait till he is asleep or, once, we left him playing with his toys in the bedroom and we took to the loungeroom! Actually, DP is having issues with the lack of spontaneity lately and it's making him grumpy. He can't seem to grasp that I am putting out all day long (more when he leaves it all up to me) and I put out completely on my own for a week and a half when he was gone. If I keep having to pull the weight I do around here, spontaneity may be sent a postcard, cos it's a long way from coming home from its holiday! I have more mojo, but when I'm doing a lot around here, mojo gets overtaken by a touch of ggrrrrr-ness at having to wash up after him (even though he says he'll do it...if I can wait 100 years!), vacuum after him, think of most meals, and THEN be expected to be an erotic goddess! Ha! Sorry, that was a deviation. Vent over.
Well, time to clean up after lunch, get some water into me and maybe have a nap with this boy.

Ive just come back from taking Nixon to an agency. Bettina if anyone has heard of them. anyway they said they would ring tomorrow to tell us how we went but not too confident. Nixon was asleep the whole way there even when i got him out of the car, he woke up as we were walking in so was pretty quiet most of the time, he wasnt crying but was just content. anyway the chick didnt even really give him any acknowledgments no smiling at him, talking etc...... Nixon is really responive to people that look at him and talk to him but she didnt. She talked really quickly about everything (which was a lot to take in) and said read through this stuff tonight and if u have any questions ask when we call u tomorrow.....that was it!! i did ask one Q and that was we may be moving interstate but that doesnt matter cause they are in Sydney as well.... other then that she didnt give the opportunity to say "so do u have any questions"
she was a young chick, looked a bit like a model herself, she did say nixon was cute (prob says that to all of them to get ur hopes up) and that he had unique features and cute chubby cheeks
anyway guess i'll find out tomorrow.

Formula- Neeny when i was bf exclusivley i had a tin of formula for JIC also, i continued usuing it if need be after it was opened and im sure it was longer then 4 weeks. Never affected Nixon, but thats just my baby, not saying every baby would be ok with it.
Speaking of which my bf road has come to an end. Anyway i am quiet pleased with myself to get to 9months. For the last month and a half I was just bf the morning feed. but the last week or so i was having to top him up with a bottle afterwards as my milk was dwindling away. I was continuesl taking fenugreek and blackmores which didnt seem to be doing much in the end so have now stopped taking them as both bottles just finished.

Bath- i am very proud of the snowboard that u "custom made' for me!!

Nickel- everywhere we go (paed, MCHN, premmie playgroup, GP) they all tell you to go by Nixon's CORRECTED age and not his actual age. so corrected he is 7.5months. He is pretty on par with a 7month old baby i rekon. (but even in saying that milestones and babies happen over such a borad period anyway) My neice is 4 days younger then him btu she is actually 9months old, she is fairly advanced on him but i get told to always remember he is that bit behind.
when i talk to the April buddies most of their babies are doing stuff that Nixon is not. but in here he seems to be similar, I am sure Simone finds that Anneiliese is not doing what most of our babies are but more of what the August bubbies are. Depending on how prem, complications etc it can take a few years for them to catch up, I am sure Nixon will be caught up well and truely to babies of his own age within no time.

Nic and Nickel - I find that Anneliese is in beween these babies and the august babies. She's been rolling for a while, which some of the babies arent doing in august yet. She went on solids around the same time as some of them (she only really started in the last 2 weeks and some of them started around 5 months) I tell people she's 7.5 months, but only 5 months corrected, which is right. I dont like being told to tell people her corrected age, as thats not her age!! If she wasnt stubborn, it would be LOL! She's as big as Marley now :) so at least i know she's not one of the premmies thats going to look really small at 2 years+. She's done so well for someone they didnt expect to survive they caesar... but i still dont think i could go through it again. sorry to ramble going to finish cleaning my kitchen now!!!

Hi girls - thank you all for your words of encouragement. I very much appreciate it. Marley is fine today. She woke at 5.30am and grizzled for nearly an hour which was driving me nuts (she normally sleeps uninterrupted until at least 8.30am), back and forth with her, she just wanted her dummy but she has to sleep with mittens to stop her scratching herself, makes it hard to pick it up! She went back to sleep at 6.30 and slept till 9.15am! Her body and face are all clear from the rash so the steroid stuff did the trick.

Re the body discussion - Chelsea once pointed to her vagina and called it her bottom. So I corrected her and explained which was which. She knows that girls have a vagina and boys have a penis and is very happy with the explanation. She knows what breasts are but still calls them boobs. We were always told to use the correct terminology for body parts so not to confuse them. But use age appropriate language for explanations about sex, babies etc. Sometimes too much graphic info can be frightening - I think it was an episode of Dr Phil LOL!!

Nic - love the new av! It looks awesome - great job Bath! Nixon would look perfect in a Target or Kmart catalogue with those beautiful eyes and chubby cheeks! I think some of the babies they use as pretty ordinary - hope something comes up for him.

IK - glad to hear Oscar is getting over his Rosie Posie LOL!! Our babies have been in the wars this week. Pancakes are so good with lemon and sugar (I think you and I have discussed this before!).

Amanda - poor Wyatt! I have no idea what you can do, thankfully chelsea has never suffered from nightmares etc. I hope things pick up for you soon and you can get some energy back. The cake turned out awesome. It was a tricky process fitting all the pieces together but it looked beautiful. I will try to load pictures after this.

Bath - enjoy the solitude while it lasts LOL!!! And that cuppa. Chelsea has been quiet today, I think she is still tired after the party and swimming this morning. She has been outside a bit in her cubbyhouse - its beautiful outside.

Hi to anyone I've missed.

Been putting away lots of things today. My wonderful GF's weren't sure where to put things away so I have just been sorting out the cupboard and doing washing. Looking forward to an earlier night tonight. Off to check out a new dance school tonight as the one we have been with for a year is pretty hopeless and we want to move. Hopefully it good as Chelsea is so keen to start dancing again.

Thanks again for your support girls! :)

Sim, I've just sent off a very long email to you... as we've had difficulty sending them recently I just thought I'd let you know here. Also... I hope you know that all that I wrote come from a caring place. I just want to repeat that the definition of "supportive" is NOT just agreeing with a person and applauding their every decison. Being supportive is offering your honest opinion, no matter how hard it is to give.

Used up my computer time quota for today.... see you guys in here tomorrow :)

i just sent you an e mail too Simone.
LOL Mel at your friends putting things in the wrong place, its funny how only YOU know where everything goes in your kitchen etc... i rekon dh still doesnt know where half the stuff is meant to go.
Real estate came whilst we were out, left a not saying the house looks great! well im glad since all ive been doing is cleaning for the last 2 weeks lol!
yeah agree simone when people ask nixons age i only tell them his actual age, but if at docs etc then explain his corrected age also.
And in the begining i always had to explain it cause he was so little when he was 2/3m old people would say how old is he a week or two! Certainly dont get that no more!! (the girls here would prob remember me getting annoyed how everyone kept telling me how small nixon was) ha look at him now!

Howdy all, Flynnie has rosie posie too! Rash broke through today and confirmed suspicions with doc.

On sex and body issues : My ma was very coy about sex and basically left it up to school and books (like Everygirl) which was great, because I have NONE of her hangups. She asked me a while back where my attitudes to sex came from and I said Cosmo and Cleo hence I have no hangups (that I know of!). She was horrified!!

Better go - FIL will be here shortly (staying with us this week while he works in Melbourne) so better go make myself presentable.....

Nic - dont worry, i remember people asking how old Anneliese was, and the look aof shock when i would say "Oh, 12 weeks" when she was 2w corrected and things like that. She was stil tiny for her corrected age!! I hope Nixon gets some work, he's just got the most beautiful face... everytime i look at your ticker pic, he makes me smile :) I will reply in length to your email later, after the kids have gone to bed. In midst of cleaning my house out (decluttering!) thats why i've been pretty scarce. I've barely checked any forums expcept this one today!!

Bath - i will reply to your email properly later... but im not angry or anything. I asked for an opinion. There is a few things is there i think when i wrote them in here i didnt clarify properly (such as the FIL incident, and the AF talk) which i really need to explain my self properly. Im sorry i didnt do it the first time... everything i write lately sounds wrong, its not what i want to write. Theres just alot going around in my head... And just so i can make something clear?? There is absolutely NO chance of me and Ryan getting back together. None at all. Even though i am lonely, i know there's someone out there for me waiting, andone im settled, i have a good job and i've set myself up abit, i will start looking for them :) More later, washings just finished...

If people ask me how old Pat i I usually tell them he is a very small 7 month old baby as he was born early. He is still in 000 clothes and not trying to crawl. He sat up for a couple of minutes last night but refuses to do it again.
As for the explaining of body parts etc.... when they are old enough to understand I will tell them, but as Jack has problems its hard for me to explain anything to him. Kate understands that women are different and that we have breasts and they don't but when it comes to Tim, he wouldn't understand that stuff yet.

Hi all just popping through, I have read all the posts but now I am too tired to reply.
Thigns here have been hectic as usual, we had my nan's 85th Bday on Sat and last night DH and I went to the Moonlight cinemas to see Little Miss Sunshine. I was helping my best friend do her engagement party invites yesterday, Ia m so excited for her, I can't wait untill the actual wedding- I love weddings so much.

Mel- What a scary experience for you, glad to hear that Marley is ok.

IK & Rory- I hope your little men are feeling better really soon, its so tuff when your baby is sick, especially because they can't tell you exactley what is wrong.

Im so excited, Tori has started saying mum mum mum and dad dad dad, I know she doesnt really know what it means yet but melts my hear when I hear her say it (I know that pretty soon I am going to be sick of the sound of Mum.. mum.... just like I get sick of Miss, misss......) but I will enjoy it while it is still new.
Anyway I am off to bed with a good book, feeling knackered!

Morning all

off to keep decluttering today, im on a roll!!

Ali - sounds like you've had a lovely weekend, i used to love going to the moonlight cinema's! Gosh i missPerth so much sometimes... And thats great about Tori talking! Im tyin to teach Anneliese, but she laughs at me then babbles :)

Time for breakfast here, so i should scoot off...have a good day everyone!

Hello everyone,

Im so sorry i have been MIA for a while, i went to sydney to find a new car (and i did!!) and when i got home DF had used up all our free internet time (we only get 30 hours a month) by playing poker!! so i had to wait for the time to come up again and its only just come back on today! this is the first thing i did.

How is everyone? i havent read back through the posts, i think its going to take way too long to go over all of them but have i missed anything important??

Not much happening with me, Lachlan is loving his food, he is into everything now, commando crawling all over the place, i think he is going to bypass proper crawling all together, he is starting to pull himself up on things now!
No teeth yet can you believe, he has been dribbling heaps and chewing everything since about 4 months, i thought he would have cut a tooth by now for sure!

Things seem to be getting a lot easier these days, he is still waking 2-3 times per night but he goes straight back to sleep and i seem to be getting a 5 hour block of sleep some nights which is good.
We are even thinking about TTC #2 this year, maybe around June!! Who would have thought i would be saying that. I think its because everyone around me is pregnant! A friend of mine who had her baby the week after Lachlan is pregnant again!! Wowee!

Anyway girls, i hope you are all having a wonderful day, i promise i wont dissapear for that long again!!

Heya Dee!! great to hear from you, I am glad Lachlan is going well and sleeping pretty good. I have been getting up to Nixon a couple of times a night for a while since he decided he likes to roll in his cot and not want to stay on his tummy... luckily most times as soon as i turn him over he is asleep again.
Wow on the commando crawling!
if you havent caught up u might not know that we will be moving back to Sydney soon! Dh got a promotion over christmas and although its still being negotiated its almost certain we are coming back, so a catch up will be in order in a few months time! i know your not in Sydney but your parents are in Engadine or something arnt they?? we might even be living in The dean for a while at MIL until we sort out what we are doing.

Hi Nickers,.

Thats great about the promotion. I grew up in Engadine and my parents still live there, im up there all the time so it would be wonderful if you moved there!

Hi again

Another stinker of a day here. Got mum's group at 2pm for the first time this year and I've co-ordinated it. Looks like we'll be getting 2 newbies and one is due to give birth in the next 2 months!

Forumla: Well actually IK is right that you do need to be careful with bacteria and spores in forumula and it relates to how warm the milk gets after its' been partly consumed by the baby and/or how long its been left out! I don't know if you need to sterilise bottles for EBM but bacteria breeds in warm cow's milk so I guess it would be best to do that too just to be safe. Babies can't warn off bacterial infections so well in the first 12 months so you only need to sterilise bottles for 12 months.

Sad news: Don't know if any of you interstaters have heard about the senseless murder of a 40 yr old man outside a Brisbane pub on Sunday morning? Well I found out yesterday it was a friend of mine and Aleise's godmother (Kerri). Brian used to be Kerri's flatmate and I ran into him only 2 weeks ago, gave him a kiss on the cheek and wished him a Happy New Year. His workplace is two streets away from where I live. I balled my eyes out when they played the security footage of him leaving the pub at 1am Sunday. He had a pokies win and was kicked and bashed to death and left to die on a back street only metres from his unit. :frown: I caught the headlines at 12.30 that police have caught the F***wit who did it and I hope he rots in jail! Honestly it he just wanted money then why didn't he just take the wallet?? Apparently Brian was beat so bad police had to rely on his keys that led to his car and his unit to identify him. Brian's rellies are flying in with dental records to verify. I'm going to leave a card at his workplace so they can pass it on to the family. Just goes to show you can't be too careful!

Well haven't caught up on all the news in here as yet. Will try to do that now.

See you later.

Oh Neeny that's shocking news! Was he single? His family must be devastated. I hope you are coping ok.... these things can take a while to fully register :(

Can't stay... been busy all day and out buying Verity's uniform/shoes.

Niall has been a little unsettled with his 3rd tooth coming through (a top one). He's napping now though so I should make good use of the time and cook the coral perch I bought for dinner.

Dee: fantastic to see you back! I guess another piece of news is that all of us Melbourne Junies have had a great meetup (at Rory's place) and we lined up all our babes on her couch for a photo shoot which you can see on Rory's site (she'll send you the password if you haven't received it already).

Isn't the weather just perfect this week? :)

Might get on here a bit later after the kids are in bed.

oh yeah check out our pics Dee. ive also got a couple on my www.

Neeny- oh thats terrible, i am sorry to hear. i hope the guy gets locked away for life he deserves to

How sickening, Neeny - what horrible news to hear about someone you know :(
Rory - how's Flynn going with the Rosie Posie? Were you just SOOOO relieved when the spots came out, because that's when you knew what you were dealing with? Is it not just scary when they get as hot as they do? Poor Flynnie, hope he's bouncing around again!
Bath - it's that time of year, isn't it? In four years' time I guess it will be the turn of a few of us here...school books and uniforms! I remember it still...the smell of new shoes, the smell of some of the books, the stiff new uniforms, changing from holiday hair to school hair ("anything below shoulder length must be tied back neatly with a blue ribbon"...only, that doesn't quite work with curly hair...cos curly and neat don't mix!). And it's Verity's first day at really big school! I bet she'll come home reeling off her experiences every day of the first week at a million miles an hour :)
Dee - great to see you back! I am so glad things are looking up for you guys...number 2?? I'm so happy!
Nic - I'm glad all your cleaning has paid off enough for the RE guy to comment! Maybe the Junies should go round and trash the place so that you can't move as quickly ;)
Ali - LOL at the 'miss, miss, miss'! My sister gets tired of that too...only she gets it from high school kids, so I'm not sure which would be more annoying - probably high school kids cos they can get very sarcastic with it, from memory!
Mel - I do recall that lemon and sugar conversation! Well, I was about to take over lemons, but I assumed that my dad would have some...but no! Alas, I was stuck with real maple syrup and apricot frozen yoghurt...so, as you can see, I did it tough without my first choice, poor me... Are the steroids still doing their job with Marley?
Ok, Nappies dried and DP brought them in so that I could fold them (after trying to give me some crap about how he put them out...a sharp "I fold them and most of the time put them in the wash", he conceded defeat - quite rightly - and did what I had suggested, hee hee!), played with Oscar, put him to sleep, he woke again and now he's on me, asleep again. His rosie posie rash is still there, but it's not that bad, and he couldn't care less now.
In great news, my GF told me she is preggers (not the one who is TTC#2)! She had her baby boy in Oct 2005 and she is nearly 40 (but SO looks heaps younger, I never realised how old she was - we became friends at the equestrian centre), and she assumed she wouldn't be having any more because Charlie took so long to arrive...and now, early days still, there's another on the way. The very trippy thing is that 3 days ago, not a word of a lie, I had been thinking of her and wondering if she would try for a 2nd, or if Charlie would be an only child. Try as I might, I couldn't see Charlie on his own, and I thought that she would love to have another. I concluded, at the time, that she would be fine to have only Charlie, but that it would be just icing on a very beautiful cake to have another. And 3 days later, she emails me the news...I so have a connection with all my friends! Everytime something happens, or I get a call out of the blue from an old friend, I have only very recently been thinking of that person - I am of the belief that it's a spiritual thing for me. (Now, everyone, share a joint) I'm just an earth child, what can I say?
Ok, I may be on later, I'll keep an eye out on posts, but I intend to watch a DVD tonight and DP was asking about dinner and I think he might just take care of it tonight...if he doesn't then he gets stir-fry!

Well today has been a busy day, have been covering Kailens school books and generally getting ready for back to school on Monday, still need to get shoes and some shirts and that will be it hopefully. Lauchlan will also be starting childcare next Tuesday for three days a week, so I will be able to have some sort of freedom for three days and be able to put all my attentions on Wyatt and Cody. I looked up night terrors and it seems that is what Wyatt has got so I just have to ride thru it, yay for me :rolleyes: .

Neeny I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, you must be devastated you poor thing, know that I'm thinking of you at this time.

IK and Rory I hope that the boys are slowly getting over the rosie posies (lol I love that name for it).

Dee gald to hear that Lachlan is doing so much more and you are enjoying him and even thinking of having another, just know that hopefully the next won't always have the same sleeping habits, I know that Kailen and Cody sleep well as babies and Lauchlan and Wyatt were horrible sleepers. So good luck.

Hello Bath, Mel and Nic.

hugs xoxo

hi there,

IK - Congrats to your friend!!

Neeny - thats terrible news, I hope the guy that did this pays for what he has done. I cant beleive what the world is coming to. Just two weeks ago a teenager was bashed to death here, near us, by two 15 year old kids!! 15 YEAR OLDS!!!

I was just reading back about the formula thing, and i too am pretty cautious about formula but i no longer boil my bottles as i was told when i was in Canberra that after 6 months you no longer need to sterilize, i still boil the water though. I hope im not doing doing the wrong thing, i do wash them in hot soapy water and then rinse them in hot water!