Babies Born March 1st-15th 2008 #6

Hey girls,

Hope you are all well :) I am pretty good, and DJ is good. I started him on some probotics and they seem to be helping so far, last night he slept much better as well. I wanted them to strengthen his immune system since he is always getting sick. He is even eating more of his solids now which is good. Today at daycare he had half a banana (just my luck, I hate banana!!) and a full tub of yoghurt and a teething rusk..... Tonight I gave him a little bit of fish, tried pasta again (still gags and throws up on lumpier foods......arghhh) and then some banana and rice cereal which he loved.

Went to community nurse on Monday to ask about his solids etc.... He is now 8.6kg and 71cm long with head circum of 45.5cm..... It is funny coz last time I went to chemist to get him checked the lady measured him wrong, she said he was 76cm long when he is only 71cm long..... haha I think she must have stretched his foot out.... Nurse said I need to introduce as many solids as I can, even if it is just tastes, and lots more finger foods. She also said to give him meatballs mashed up until they are fine little granules. also have to get him to drink water, he won't drink it so trying it everyday now, until he drinks some.....

Jo - love the routine, sounds like it is going really well. DJ is also very fussy with his solids as well, drives me nuts as well, but I just try to be patient. How much does Caitlin sleep overnight? Does she wake early morning for feed, or just 7am??

Prama - we will need to organise catch-up sometime soon, what are you up to next week Monday????

SJ - wow sounds like you are super busy with your little crawler ;)

Danni - wow on the mama and dadda - that is soooo cute.

Bron - how are you feeling with your treatment? I hope it is going ok.

Skye, Trina hope you are both well :)

Chat soon
Shell xxxx

hi girls, sorry for not doing personals last night.
poopy cries as soon as he goes to bed now and last night it went on for a while. decided to try CC cos he was just not sleeping thru the night, waking up every hr.
it was so heartbreaking to hear him cry but he did fall asleep eventually and slept longer last night. but dunno if it was cos of cc or he was tired from crying. this is our last resort.

maybe it's cos he's pulling himself up and starting to 'cruise' a little, holding onto things, maybe it's a development thing, he's not sleeping well at all.

shell - im free next monday, sounds good! hope dj goes back to his solids full time.. will he take sweeter vegies like pumpkin, sweet potato etc?
i got some tiny pasta, star shapes made from semolina from a market in eastwood. it's tiny so poopy eats it easily. i think they might have them at harris farm. what type of pasta are you using. i was using regular pasta but had to break them up before cooking so decided to get these tiny ones when i saw them.

poopy's saying some words like 'amma' (mum), appa (dad) tata(grandpa), baba (bye bye), elu (hello) or at least i t hink he is!

sorry will try to do personals tomorrow, been getting constant bad headaches, must be from the severe lack of sleep.... im so exhausted.

oh, poopy now grabs our face and gives us big slobbery kisses and also chews on my chin! lucky he doesnt have any teeth!
and bron - hope you are feeling ok.. xoxoxo

Hi girls,
Does anyone mind if I join you?
I haven't been on-line since our DD was born and now I'm hoping to have a bit more time to contribute and read everyone's posts...
Shell - I know it's really early to start asking questions, but can I ask which probiotics you are using and where you got them? My DD is having some major wind pains and a friend of mine suggested pro-biotics... also, like your little one, our DD has had a bad run of colds and flus over the last couple of months (she's been a bit more sensitve since she had RSV at 4 months and we wound up in the hospital...)
Thanks in advance and hope everyone has a nice night.
Lily

SHell often the first year in child care can be full of colds unfortnatley but it does get better. Try and keep a record in your blue book of when he gets sick as well so if later on you need to back up requests for anythign you have it all written down. We keep track at child care too so it helps for cross infection.

I am feeling ok after Monday though arms are a bit sore as it took 5 canual holes to get one to stick then the dam thing blew out and my arm puffed up.I was pretty exhasuted when I came home and slept for a while as Nick was home with Will but then got a major steroid rush and was cleaning the house till 1am *L*( I get a large push of steroids as well as the other drug)
Still I am on a 7th of the does I was last time which is amazing so I hope it has the same affect. Next week Iwill go up to the main hospital and they use the ultrasound to find a good enough vein for the canual as I no longer have my portacath.

SHell Am sorry your having trouble with DJ's solids it makes you worry when they dont eat huh. I know when Wills teeth are giving him curry he goes off as well and I find i am giving him extra bottles then after a few days he is fine.
He is eating pretty much everything we are now and I just mush up what we had like the lamb roast dinner we had including cauliflower and brocoli cheese sauce, lamb, gravy, peas,roast pumpkin, potato and sweet potato. He had spag bol last night I just cooked the pasta a good while longer and chopped it up fine.I did give him all the roast veges in his hand when we actualy ate dinner though they were cooled and nice and soft so maybe try giving him what your having just more cooked. DOes DJ have a sippy cup? on of those non drip ones I gave WIll an empty one ages and ages ago to play with and slowly added water to it and he holds it really well. I leave it out where he can get it any time of the day maybe if DJ plays with one for a while and then he might start taking water from it. Anyway these few things worked for me I hope they help I am always trying out the stuff you guys are all doing here *L*

Prama hun those headaches dont sound good I do hope you get some more sleep and some time for you. ANd am hoping for you that poopy gets back into routine and some sleep it must be so hard.

Lily hi and welcome its feast or famine here we either fill up pages and pages or are absent for a while *L*

Jo sounds like this routine is working really well for you guys bless Caitlin falling asleep right on time during her baptisim. The photos on your web page are great its amazing to see form that tiny little bub how she has grown and going great guns.

Trina hows things with you????
Skye looking fwd to catching up on your news when your back on line hope the move went well.

Danni sounds like Jazz is a real chatterbox bless.

Ok best go get chorse done mg is going out for lunch today which should be nice.
Have a great day girls take care of yourselves.
Bronxx

hey girls

Lily - welcome to the group :) sounds like we are going through the same thing. DJ has had bad wind since he was 2 weeks old..... haha poor darling..... hoping the probotics will work. The brand is Totally Natural and it is called "Pro-Immune Boost" it is designed for babies and kids and can be taken from when they are 4 months old. it can be added to breast milk, formula or other milk. Hope it works for you. Since DJ started taking it he is sleeping alot longer than normal so hopefully I am onto something good :) fingers crossed.....

Prama - oh cool, lets meet up on Monday then..... Westfield Parramatta? or somewhere else?? He is getting better with solids, so just keep giving him things to try so hopefully he will be back full-time on solids with his milk. Still drinks his milk and is drinking alot more of it even after a feed so that is good. The pasta I bought was the Bellamy Organic brand, brown rice pasta. It is only tiny but still didn't like it. He doesn't like things too lumpy.....

Bron - glad things went well for you and bonus on the steroid rush cleaning the house haha and yeah DJ has a sippy cup, it is the Nuby non-drip one.... so maybe I will just do that, put it in front of him to play with it and hopefully he will eventually drink out of it by himself :)

Anyway better go, having mothers group at my place today so better finish getting organised. Also need to take something out for dinner tonight.

Shell xxxx

Shell, I need to try giving Jazz water too. She hasn't taken it. I put it in a bottle for her and she grabs the bottle thinking it's formula and doesn't like it when it's just water that comes out. I'll have to keep trying and get the daycare lady to try.

Hi girls. Sorry I haven't posted for ages but I have been dropping in to keep up with you all.

Paddy is going great. He's not crawling forward yet but it's hilarious watching him try to work it out. He loves the jolly jumper and goes nuts when he's in it. I took a video but don't think I can load it on BB. I've been a bit slack and haven't had his 8mth check yet. I hate having to do appointments! On my measurements he's 10kgs 73cm. I don't have any trouble getting him to eat his solids! He's not sleeping as well now that he can move around easily. I'm hoping he start self settling again once he's able to crawl. He's learning so many different things at the moment he just wants to be into everything. Still can't get rid of his excema. It seems to get better as the wather gets warmer. Does this happen with anyone else?

Shell I've been offering water for a couple of months and had to try a couple of sippy cups to find ones that he likes. I'm still bfing so he doesn't need a lot but is starting to drink more.

Bron glad to hear your meds a finally happening. I think I need a steroid rush here!

Teach - So good to hear from you :) MJ is not self settling much anymore, she has been properly crawling for about 8 days now, although she is sleeping a bit better.
As for the ezcema, i find that it is worse in the heat, although MJ is not suffering badly from it.

Lily - welcome to the group, feel free to ask away to us all... as Bron says, its all or nothing here at times

RE - Water , CMHN told me to try and get MJ to drink from a cup or a medicine cup as its easier for them to swallow. I dont realy need to be giving her any water either due to BF, but would like her to start taking some so that she will use to it in the heat of summer (although the BM should adjust too)

MJ is 7.9kg and 70cm long on last check which was last week

Bron, bugger about the cannula's and then your vein blowing what a bummer, will they consider something more long term JIC? even a PICC???
:hug: PSML on the sterioid rush, could do with one here too at times

Gotta go MJ has just woken

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How much does Caitlin sleep overnight? Does she wake early morning for feed, or just 7am??

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She sleeps through, sometimes we hear her playing during the night but we ignore her and she goes back to sleep by herself.

Lily - Welcome! What's your little ones name?

Bron - Glad to hear you are back on track with your med's. I hope the whole blowing out thing was not too painful.

Teach - Good to hear from you. Sounds like Paddy is going great guns!

Re Water - Caitlin thinks her sipper cup is a toy! She sucks the water out and then spits it out and gets completely soaked. I like to hope that she is swallowing some of it and it will only get better! If she is not covered in spew she is covered in water!

Off to MG. Back online later :) Jo.

Sj I opted out of a picc, long or short line as my arms are just a real mess I have had 6 picc lines before and when I had Will I had a short line in. I figured that for the 4 weeks treatment that I could put up with them poking around for veins. It doesnt bother me so much anymore more frustration than anything. Only thing I dont like is the guys that want to use local first as I bruise more becasue they feel they can poke aorund harder ( well I guess they can) and unfortunatley the golden veins are in my elbows thank goodness its not a cytotoxic drug so the blow out resulted in tissue elargement and not burning. They will use the ultrasound next week to get it straight away and I will ask for the dex to be pushed instead of diluted so much.Shoul donly take 3-4 hours instead.
Long term I am hoping this will give me another 3 years remission so wont have to worry about more canulas :-) I do have the most amazing lupus like rash across my face though very stunning but starting to fade a little.

Hey teach great to se eyou and hear how paddy is doing

Lily welcome! Did you post here before? Your username seems very familiar...

bron- the headaches come and go.. it's hard cos i cant just go rest like before and have to look after poopy.
sounds so crappy with all those needles, im so sorry you have to go thru all that.. are you going to the hossy at bathurst?
how long does the treatment take? what's PICC? do you have a butterfly rash? is that part of the side effects? sorry for the questions....
will sounds like he's eating really well. :D he's such a clever boy.
i make some similar stuff to what we're eating but because poopy eats at 5.30, 6pm it's hard to cook the same for us. i'd have to start cooking really early. sometimes i prepare the same stuff for us and him, then cook his stuff first. other times i make difference. and we dont decide what to have for dinner till steve gets home. but we'll have to change once i go back to work and poopy's in day care. i made polenta with vegies for dinner for him and he seemed to like it.


shell - monday sounds good, westfields will be ok. hehe i might have that crepe i had the last time.. it was yummy. where shall we meet?
really hope he gets back to his solids... it's worrying when bub doesnt want to eat properly.

teach - great to hear from you! steve goes to perth in a couple of weeks.. but at least this time for a few days only and it's too expensive for us to fly w him.
paddy's doing so well!!

sj - excema bad here... hope mj doesnt get it..

jo - you;re so lucky caitlin's sleeping thru.
poopy does everything, eat, drink water etc. but wakes up every other hr, and cries for ages.. guess cant have everything;

poopy's starting to cruise a little. he holds his playpen or the lounge and starts to walk a bit. if we hold his arms, he's walks very shakily.. i can see his bum getting muscles.. lol...

gotta go.. headache back, feeling icky. dunno why....
oh, and i havent got AF again since oct 2nd, it's way overdue....

Oh girls, thanks for all of the replies and welcomes! I really appreciate it.

Prama - yes, we were in the same pregnancy Belly Buddies group (and the same TTC group too I think). It's been a very long time since I've been on BB. Our computer collapsed just after our daughter was born and I was so busy I didn't even really notice, but boy am I glad that I have a working computer again!!!

Shell - sounds like we are definitely in the same boat!!! Our Little Miss wont eat much of anything at the moment - loves yoghurt and avocado and turns down just about anything else. Burps and farts all the time - very unladylike! Will get on to the pro-biotics though - so glad to speak to someone who is using them.

H Marknjo, Sammiejane and India!

Have a lovely night girls,
Lily

lily - i remember now! yes, we were in same TTC thread! xoxo

prama hope this explains it I just copied and pasted sorry.
I have had lots of them and as a result my arms are very scarred

A peripherally inserted central catheter (PICC or PIC line) is a form of intravenous access that can be used for a prolonged period of time (e.g. for long chemotherapy regimens, extended antibiotic therapy, or total parenteral nutrition). First described in 1975,[1] it is an alternative to subclavian lines, internal jugular lines or femoral lines which have higher rates of infection. Subclavian and internal jugular line placements may result in pneumothorax (air in the pleural space of lung).

A PICC is inserted in a peripheral vein, such as the cephalic vein, basilic vein, or brachial vein and then advanced through increasingly larger veins, toward the heart until the tip rests in the distal superior vena cava or cavo-atrial junction.


Its not worth the risk of infection for me to have one in for such short bursts of treatment as I dont have any neutrophils to fight the infections off. Besides they can be uncomefortable.
I have treatmen tint he cancer clinic next to the hospital much nicer than being i main hos.

Hi all, hope you are all well, lots going on here as usual.... Im trying to get my life together at the mo. Mum has moved so my support has gone to the poo working still but its hard cos i have to rely on EX and lucky he is being good but when he goes away im screwed. I have started to wean Summer not that i really wanted to yet but she has finally started taking a bottle and now thinks booby is too much hard work like all my girls have done but early morning feed she likes to come in bed and have a bf. Plus i can have full weekends or just nights to myself now (not that i have been able to leave her yet).

Summy now has 5 teeth nearly 6 the 6th is not quite there yet and is a top front one so she got her eye teeth and one front one looks funny. She has now discovered how to get out the back yard, if the girls leave the back door open she is out there in a flash she loves it,

Hi lilly welcome back

Bron, you poor darling hope it all is going well been thinking about you heaps lately xoxo

SJ how you going? hows little MJ? hope you are well and not too busy running after her.

Prama, hmmmm another bundle on the way maybe?? how was your visit home? you little traveller hehe good on you girl!

sorry if i have left anyone out..... I am in a weird place right now and at times am finding it hard to come on BB. I am trying to get my life in order and get on the right track which is hard with so many people to look after......

Ill try and get on more regularly

Trina xoxox
and sorry for the dribble hehe its fully flowing today

Wow! 5 teeth already! Least she's getting them out the way quickly. I think Jazz's 3rd is about to pop through, I was feeling her gums and felt a bump like the other 2 before they popped through. One of the front top teeth. She slept well last night, I put her to bed at 8, then she woke at 10 and Matt tended to her. I told him after he changed her nappy to put her back in the cot and give her the bottle in the cot so that she falls asleep easier and doesn't get unsettled when she gets put back to bed...it worked like a charm and she slept all night until I woke her up at 7:15 this morning. Our daycare lady said that she made Jazz stay awake through her morning nap yesterday and only let her sleep 1.5 hours in the afternoon to try and get her to sleep better at night for us...it worked!

Just a quick one...

JO - are the milk feed times different for BF babies? there is NO WAY that i could only feed MJ 4 times in a day...
i have started to adjust to some of the times that you listed - more the bed time and going to be 1 hour earlier is sooooo much better for her, you wouldnt think that they would sleep better by going to bed earlier, but there you go.
The biggest problem is the timing of the feeds.... i alsmost need to give her either a feed before the lunch time nap and put her down later or give her one when she wakes up from that sleep. Actually i think i will try and put her down now and then give her a booby feed when she wakes up.

Oh yeah, sounds like a great idea meeting at your house, its a bit hard to have 'coffee' when all they want to do is crawl around!
let me know when suits you, tuesdays and thursdays are no good for me....

right off to get her to sleep, thats another one i will have to ask you about... or anuyone else
Im trying not to put her down alseep, so she goes in her cot, but i end up having to pick her up and rock her to sleep as i wont let her cry in her cot, CC doesnt sit well with me... any advice anyone???

It is the same routine whether they are BF or bottle. Maybe if she can't go the distance between feeds then she isn't getting enough milk? I don't know I am no expert!

Re controlled crying. The author Tizzie Hall doesn't believe in it either. Basically you put them to bed and if they cry only go in if it is an emotional cry. If it is a protesting cry then you leave them as they are not really upset. You leave them for 18 minutes (minimum) - if they stop protesting for 5 seconds or more then the 18 minutes starts again. If they are still crying after the 18 minutes you go in and soothe them and you stay with them for 46 minutes or until they go to sleep. If they are still protesting after 46 minutes you get them up for a 10 minute break and then you start again.

On the first night, it took us sitting with her for the 46 minutes before she went to sleep. On the second night it only took sitting with her for 20 minutes. On the third night she went down without a fight. Occasionally she wakes up after an hour and we just go in and soothe her and sit in there until she goes back to sleep usually no more than 20 minutes.

If Caitlin is crying with tears and obviously sobbing, we get her up and cuddle her until she settles down and then try putting her down again after 10-15 minutes and she usually goes down on the second attempt.