Babies Born May 16th ~ 31st 2008 #4

omg sat it was sooooooooooooooooo hot. our house is like a bloddy sauna. we put the fans on and it was just making it worse.
we took jayda for a swima nd she is goign so well she loves it so much.

not much else to write. had a full on weekend.

Nikki- DD's head was 42... so its not that much bigger... and Abbie is a bit older then my DD... Try not to stress out hun... damn doctors make mums worry more then they heed too... Abbie is gorgeous... her eyes are just beautiful... (my DS has similar kind of eyes...) what was her height??/ DD was 6.97 kg, height was 65.3cm... so Abbie is not much bigger... (mind you dd was checked few days before she was 6 months so i guess she'd be bout that sizr too now... ) Tell that doc to either explain is concerns of shut it... lol... Worrying you like that...

Sass- i know that the fans seem to push the hot air round sometimes but at night it is nice to have some ind of breeze on you... even if it is hot... lol

Jess abbie weighed 7.6kg, he did not measure her length. I am not overally worried just will go and get her checked at the clinic anyway. Also abbie was 6 1/2 months when i took her, also i looked on the net and it says that for 6 months anything up to 46cm is normal.

Nikki

Hi All,

Nikki - I heard that if they jump up 2 percentiles they refer you to a specialists. Couple of the girls from mothers group found this also at the 6months check ups. They went to specialist who so far has said theres nothing to worry about (probably another way of getting a few extra $$$ from us :rolleyes:). Cameron's head circumference was 43.5cm, and I noticed he has jumped from the 25th pecentile to between 25-50, so it seems like they have a little growth spurt at this stage (his weight and length were still in the 25 percentile). I'm sure there is nothing to be concerned with.

Jess - Yeah, that's why I wanted the fans in the bedroom. We have air con in the lounge, and it faces down the hall, so with most of the doors closed, the air con travels right to the required room, it just needs to be circulated when it's there. Glad Tiahna likes her shopping, Cameron's likes his shopping too, rarely grumbles. It's funny though, he seems to get bored in Kmart and Big W though, as he usually makes sighing noices and falls asleep in those stores but always wakes in toy stores :doh: (that could be costly later on)

NaNa - Are you going to the Sunshine Coast for xmas? Where abouts are they? Eww on the 5.30 wake ups, just a little too early :o. Cameron's also woken about that time over the last few weeks on and off, anywhere between 4 -5am. It's much harder to resettle I think cause the sun being almost up (wish we had daylight savings). Occassionally I've just let him do his little cry for a min, then usually find it dwindles to a little moan within 30seconds, then he seems to go back to sleep for an hour or so (doesn't work all the time though).

Sassy - Yeah, sometimes the fan just pushes the hot air down. I must check the setting though, as I know we had it on the winter setting the other week :think: . Did you get the storm a little later that night though (it hit ours about 7pm, then came back at 4am - scared the crap out of me with the crack of lightning outside my window). Glad Jayda enjoyed her swim, makes it a little easier to cool her down if she loves the water.

Well we didn't get up to too much over the weekend. Went to the shops yesterday as Mum insisted I buy a new outfit for my xmas party this coming Friday and wanted to buy it for me for xmas. Looking forward to wearing it, been a while since I bought nice clothes (besides maternity ones).

We had the inlaws over last night, as MIL in going to Europe for 5weeks as of Saturday. They were suppose to be here at 5ish (though my original plan was for lunchtime) but by the time they arrived at 6, I was giving Cameron a bath then getting him ready for bed. I'd invited them over so MIL could spend some time with Cameron as she had made comments that he doesn't know her. But when she comes back to Australia 4 weeks later she is off to live in China for a couple of years again (teaching English). It frustrates me that she makes those comments then doesn't seem to be so worried when she makes plans to live overseas (which she only told us a couple of weeks ago). How does she think Cameron will get to know her if she's in another country :wall:. Sorry for my little rant. There's heaps more they frustrate me with, but I feel better now, so I won't bore you.

Well, off to make something for dinner - I have no idea what I'm going to make - any ideas. Last week I was so interested in cooking, this week I really can't be bothered (but I will).

Bye for now

I'm still around... just having a difficult week. Yeah, and it's only Tuesday!! Have to take DS for blood tests tomorrow to find out about the spots on his legs. Not looking forward to that. He's been throwing the biggest tantrums lately, it's disgusting! I hate to think how I'm going to handle the terrible two's! Anyways, I'm late for playgroup as usual, so I'll be back later. Hope you're all having a nice day!

OK, I'm back... where's everyone else today?? hmmm...
so, yeah, sleep deprivation is no fun. I've just ordered a book that's been recommended to me, and maybe next year I'll have the time to read it! Haha! I don't know why DS has been so crazy the last week or so, but it's exhausting. Having DP home more often has certainly mixed things up, tho. Yesterday I thought everything was getting back to normal, but then last night he woke up screaming at midnight, and today we had tantrums and screaming, no sleep between 7 and 2, and then only a couple of short naps till bedtime at 7.30 (making it earlier so I can go out! selfish mama...). But the thing is he's been waking up crying, or crying in his sleep even. I can't work out why, and he's never really done this before. Growing pains? Every 10 minutes or so for the first hour after he goes to sleep, he needs to be resettled or turned onto his side again because he's crying out in his sleep or rubbing his eyes like he's waking up. I've started giving him regular "meals" of fruit, vegies and porridge two-three times a day, but it's taken me until this morning to get him to actually eat enough to enjoy it and want more. I'm wearing a lot of it...
Ah, but he's too cute. This morning he was rolling around on the bed just after waking up, and he crawled over to DP's pillow and patted it, looked straight at me and said clearly, "ou est Papa?" (where's Papa?). I couldn't believe it. DP still doesn't believe me.
Anyway, we're bracing ourselves for blood tests tomorrow. Blahhhhh.... not happy.

Bec - yeah, I grew up on the Sunshine Coast (shh dont tell anyone!), all over really, but mostly around Mudjimba (huh? where??). But my mum's just moved out to the Noosa hinterland, so we'll be going up there. Gonna get my lily-white moon-tanned butt into the sun again - eeeek! I wish DS would just cry a little and then trail off if he has to cry, but no... he starts out suddenly and builds up intensity, and the longer I leave him the harder it is to get him to stop. Shame about your MIL... that's a bit selfish IMO. Not just the moving-overseas biz, but just turning up late. Is Cameron their first grandchild? I know it's hard to get inside their heads and know why they say these things then act so completely opposite! I'd suggest something to cook for dinner but it's probably a bit late now... I used to do that for a living once upon a time. Culinary consultancy :) Bet a new outfit makes you feel good! Would your mum take me shopping too??

Nikki - Congrats on the tooth! And don't stress, Abbie's normal and gorgeous! DS has always had a big boofhead, but it was only really noticeable just before he had a big growth spurt at 4 months, but now his body is really starting to catch up. A friend of mine made it really obvious to me. She has a son born the day after DS, her and her partner are big, tall, athletic people but their DS is tiny and petite compared to Aadi. I went to visit one day and she said (very loud) "Whoa that kids got a big head!" and I freaked just a bit! By comparison, it looked massive! Last check DS's head was 45cm, but he's been in the 75-90th percentile from the start. Your Dr probably had his finger under the tape measure or something... :lol:

Jess - that's great that Tiahna's so well-behaved when you're out! It's amazing how sweet they are when in public, but nobody will believe that when you're at home they're capable of being little terrors! And well done on the sleep too! Here's hoping it keeps up. I meant to say a while back, congratulations on making it to 6 months BF! I know that's a big deal, and you've worked hard at it. Have you set yourself another goal? Or just taking it as it comes?

Oh geez I'm falling asleep here... I'll come back tomorrow after the Drs and finish up. Sorry to everyone I missed. Nothing personal! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Hi ladies

Nana sorry to hear about your sleepless nights, i hope that aadi sleeps a bit for you today and better tonight. I hope that all goes well with the blood test today i will be thinking of you.

Thank you everyone for your support with abbies head well i think that i will still take her to the clinic on friday just to see waht they say, i am not really stressing about it i will just wait and see what she says.

Hi to everyone else gotta run so much to do today its cody's last day of kindy and i am really sad cause that means that he is in prep soon!! Also he has made so many friends and i am sad for him as i don't think he realises.

Have a great day
Nikki

Well finally BB is working... I tried a few times but no luck...

Things have been wacko again... DD is an Angel while out but a nitemare at home...

NaNa- we've had the crying in her sleep, screaming and all that stuff for the last few days... She was rubbing her ears so i thought maybe sore ears or more teething on the way... i never thought of growing pains... sleeping has also been all over the place... no morning sleeps but so tired come 2-3 that i have to put her in teh cot and she cries herself to sleep. i feel aweful but she just fights it all day...Good luck tomoz with the bloods... Poor bubba...

Today we has speeck therapy with DS and she was great but when were home she wont play she wont sit, sleep, shes feeding ok but just wants to get held... well more like hugged...

She's just woken up again so best be off... WIll be back later forthe rest of the personals... Sorry

Hey, what's been going on with BB today? Teething again?
Blood tests went ok, but I got some emla first and put it on both arms just in case. It was really hard to hold DS and watch the nurse put the needle in his arm, and make sure he didn't kick the other nurse who was holding his arms! Now just have to wait for the results, which is difficult. The spots have almost completely gone now, but I need to know what's causing them.
Jess - Aadi's been much the same lately, just wants to be held. He's still happy enough most of the time and is fine when we're out, but just isn't in the mood to play or do anything much. He crawls over to me and puts his head down on my feet and cries. It's so sad! He's been crying in his sleep a lot tonight already. He also chucked up a bit, which he hasn't done in ages. Yuk. I should be used to it by now, but it just grossed me out! He's drooling lots again, and his cheeks are red. He's also pulling and scratching at his ears too, so I think it's teething again. It never ends...

Yesterday I got a copy of the case study from the student midwife who followed me thru my pregnancy. Wow, it was full-on to read thru all the notes she took from all my hospital appointments, chilbirth education classes, right thru from 14 weeks to after the birth. She was lovely, and would make a great midwife. She said we were the best case study ever, which was really nice!

I really should be asleep now... will try again tomorrow.

Well finally i got on to BB last night but i was too tired so i read Jess's post and went to bed. Atleast its fixed now!!!

Jess and nana i know what you mean abbie has been really clinging too at the moment if she see's me walking around the house and she is not on my hips she looks at me and whinges but if the boys distract her she is fine. So i think that they have just got to the age were they are aware now and know what they want and know how to get it. :wall: Very frustrating but i don't always give in but sometimes i do its a hard one.

nana i am gald that aadi's needle went well yesterday, hopefully the tests show you something usefull. I bet it would have been really interesting reading that case study something to look back on which is great.

Well cody had his last day of kindy yesterday and its kind of sad cause now i know that he is in big school next year, sad but exciting at the same time, my baby is growing up!!!

Its hot here already today:doh:
Abbie is still sleeping the best she sleeps all night in her cot and we don't hear from her till the morning, which was 5:15 this morning but had a bottle and is back in bed, although i wish i could say the same for lachlan he is an early riser 6am for him.
Oh well whats sleep i think that i do better when i get up early though gives me a head start. Before i had kids i would easly sleep in till 10am every morning when i could.

Well i hope that everyone has a great day and talk to you soon.
ps been quiet in here lately, and i have been really good posting nearly everyday:dance: which is good for me lol !!!

Have a great day
Nikki

well its good to see i wasnt the only one having probs gettin on here. my comps been playing up so i thought it was that.

jayda is sooky at the mo too pulling/scratching ears.
we r still gettin good sleep at night down by 9 and then up at 6 to 630. she is fighting her day sleeps real bad the last week and loves it when the kids r asleep to just yell and the only way to shut her up is to rock her but i cant do that for 2 hrs.
She is looking so big latly.

well i found out wat my bday suprise is and i dont liek it lol. i dont know if i should say anythign to DH or not. he just doesnt think. he has organised to go out on our friends house boat with them. so the first prob is i am scared of deep water lol. and 2nd prob i was hoping for a little hanky panky seens we havnt had much alone time for awhile but seens there will be other people a meter away that isnt gonna happen.
he made a comment the other night that if i find out wat he has planned that he is never doign anythign again cause i always find out and wreck it.

nana: that would suck gettint he blood test. did he keep still woudl be hard to take blood froma baby it is bad enough when they get their needles that move so much.

Well last night went ok... Took a while to get the kids to bed... DD didnt sleep much during the day so only got to bed at 9.30 (usually she's whinging for bed at 7) DS on the other hand had a day sleep and was still wide awake at 10.40 when i had enough and needed sleep so i just made him lay with me til he fell asleep... killed my back carrying him in there... OMG he's like 23 kgs but feels like 50 when he's asleep.

So i finally climb back into bed at 11 and DD wakes up... i put the dummy back in flip her on her back and cover her up... YAY she went back to sleep. But only to wake up at 12 so i fed her and tried to keep her awake long enough for a decent feed... i find night times she has few sucks and falls asleep. so she had a full feed and back to sleep. she woke up at 3 and i put the dummy in and fliped her and covered her again... Had to do that 3 times in a row but YAY she got the hint and went to sleep. and guess what...... Didnt wake til 9am OMG i was shocked. DP said she had a little cry at about 5 but must have gone back to sleep quickly... so YAY... :leap: she's woken up so happy and i finally have my porn star boobs back... lol havent been full like this for ages... She had a feed and is playing happily on the mat... what a change a good sleep makes... i'm hoping she stays this happy most of the day... its raining and i need to get some things done...

NaNa- Glad th needles went well... i thought the post was done yesterday... Do you think the emla worked??? Thats awesome bout the case study... nice little keep sake for you. DD also crawls over to my feet and puts her head on them and cries... :( she's not crawling on all 4s yet but does this weird army crawl effectivebut so funny to watch... she looks like... hmmm cross between a fish out of water and a frog but only uses one leg at a time to move up... lol

LMK_- Awweee big school... as much as i say i cant wait for DS to go to big school i know i'll be sad and probably have a cry... its such a big step... i have to look into DS going to day care more days i think so the adjustment isnt too much for him. If i walk away from DD she screams.... its like she thinks i'm going to leave her... its so sad but i just cant be with her all day... DP got the *****s the other day cos the house was a bit untidy and the next day he saw what she was like and commented to me about fixing her so she stops crying... When i explained and showed him he was like " you cant do anything if she's like that" .... Dah... i know thats why nothing was done... lol...

nikki & dan... so jealous of your fantastic sleepers...

Dan- hard decision to make... maybe go with the flow or maybe say to DH.. hope my b'day pressie is plenty of DTD... he might think... hmmm maybe i should change the plans????

hi again he he he

sassy sorry to hear about your birthday plans, maybe try and organise for someone to have DD over night so you both can have a romantic night together, or even during the day if yournot fussy he he. It is a tough one cause you don't really want ot spoil the suprise, although its your birthday just try and enjoy yourself. Good to hear that jayda is sleeping well too, abbie sleeps from about 7pm till about 5:30-6. But like jayda she does not sleep well during the day, i think its mostly my fault too cause i am usually in and out of the house going to school, kindy, kindy, school so she can't really get a proper sleep pattern during the day. I too have to sit here and rock her in her bouncer and unless its really quiet she won't stay asleep. Oh well i am just happy that she sleeps better at night.

Jess cody was a horrible sleeper at night he would wake up every 3-4 hours everynight until he was about one years old, which is when i stopped BF, i am not saying that thats why but i know that all he wanted when he woke up was a little suck and back to sleep. I have no idea how to stop it i just kept doing it but i only had him then. So with Lachlan and abbie i always gave them a bottle of formula before bed and they both are great sleepers. I am definitly no saying don't bf or anything and i think its great that you are still bf and i wish i was too, but i think thats why my babies are good sleepers. Some people give babies a bottle of water when they wake up rather then giving them milk because this is not what they want so they stop waking up for it. Worth a try i suppose and sorry if i offended you but i do know how youfeel.

Hope everyone is well talk soon
nikki

Nikki, did you scare everyone else away?? :lol: It's great to have you back more often! Has Abbie started getting another tooth yet? DS had a temp last night and was crying in pain, toxic poo again (TMI) and has been super-clingy-velcro-baby for a few days now, and this morning there's a white bump on his top gums. Poor kid, he's copped a lot this week!
Wow, this is the start of another big adventure for you and Cody - big school! How exciting! I hope there's some of his friends going to the same school with him next year. It would be nice for him to maintain some of his friendships from kindy, having a familiar face or someone to play with on that first big day at least!

It would be great to be able to get DS to sleep better, and I have heard offering water instead of a feed can help, but I know the problem I've had (and Jess too) is that bubs wont take a bottle. It's not for lack of trying. There have been moments when I'd consider trying horse tranquilizers...

Sassy - hmmm... how to avoid a disappointment like that?? Unfortunately you can't be subtle with men (they just dont GET it!), and diplomacy rarely works either... um, it was your birthday on Tuesday, wasn't it?? HAPPY belated BIRTHDAY!! Good luck talking your way out of it, and here's hoping you get the naughty weekend you hoped for! Who knows, maybe he's got a real surprise for you and the houseboat thing is just a cover?? Stranger things have happened!
Yeah, it was a bit awful getting blood tests. DS was ok at first, then when the nurse started poking around looking for a vein with her fingers he started getting upset, then when the second nurse came in he started crying. The second nurse held his arm, and I had to hold his other arm and legs coz he kicks so much, and I was freaking out about him bouncing around with a BIG needle in his arm! But I think the Emla helped because he didn't scream like when he has vaccinations, and I know for sure blood tests are ouchy too.

Jess - hooray for boobies!! :rofl: hope today goes well with the sleeping patterns for you! Feels so good to sleep more than 5 minutes, hey? Well, it feels like 5 minutes, doesn't it? I'm hanging out for my book to arrive, but last night was actually pretty good after the initial hour or two of interruptions, crying, Teething Relief and eventually panadol! Asleep from 9 to 2:45, a feed and then sleep again till 6:15. This morning he had an hour and a half nap from 8:30, and then OMG scoffed a whole bowl of porridge and wanted more! No silly games, just mouth open wide waiting for the spoon! Amazing... and another nap straight after.

OK, I've babbled enough for today... hope you're all well.

Hi All,

Just a quick one, as Cameron has been asleep for 3hrs now, and I need to go wake him soon. He too hasn't been to good at sleeping the last couple of days. Monday was perfect, but Tuesday and yesterday he woke at 5.50am (exactly), we played til about 6.30 when he fed, was back in bed about 7.30ish, but only slept just over 1 hr (usually 1.5 or 2 in the mornings). But then after that he barely slept during the day, couple of 20mins naps, but nowhere near long enough to actually be classed as sleep. He has also woken screaming the last few nights, about 3.30am, and has taken a while to get him to relax and go back to sleep. This morning though he woke at 5, and wouldn't go back down (thankfully after I fed him, mum looked after him, while I had a little more sleep). He eventually went down again at 8am, for 40mins, then woke screaming again, wouldn't go back to sleep so I ended up giving him some apple then a bf and he fell asleep while burping about 11.

I think it's this bother of this 2nd tooth. I can see it pushing up through the skin, but it's not cut through yet - it looks painful. Keep rubbing some curash teething gel, which seems to help after a while. What's the teething relief some of you's are using? Is it worth looking at getting some?

Well I popped back to a child care centre yesterday to hand back enrolment forms, and it couldn't have been better timed. The 3 staff members were sitting there organising the next years roster, and had our name in there hands. She remembered me (helps that my cousins son goes there) and said we have a 99.9% chance of getting in there, WOOHOO! I said I was so hoping I could get him in there, as I have found it one of the best centres I'd looked at. They'll let me know by the end of the week. We won't actually need the child care til Thursdays and Fridays as of May, but I've decided to put him in for Thursdays as of Feb or March - to get him use to being away in slowly and kinda have my spot as if worst came to worst my mum could look after him Fridays, it's just Thursdays I definitely need.

Question - with introducing of foods, I had been waiting the 3 days to introduce new things (only fruit and vegies at this stage) - do you's all wait the 3 days? Sometimes when I've done new vegies for dinner I think about giving it to Cameron to try, but as usually I'd only introduced a new food the day before I don't.

Cameron also is very close to crawling. He does one knee forward then stops. Or he'll go one knee then get his feet kinda trip him. I think he'll be crawling by christmas day, possibly even by next week. He is soo determined to do it, you can see it in his face.

Well I can here Cameron talking (that's good, as I really hate waking him).

Bye for now

Hi Girls
Well i haven't been on for a few days, its been chaotic around here so no time really and yesterday i tried but think BB was down. Anyhoo i have had a busy week organising Secondary school for Maddi, with orientation day, meetings, unifroms, books, graduation night oh it has been exhausting. Poor little man has been dragged everywhere but has been very well behaved when out and just a little monster at home. He is really a big handlefull to get too sleep during the day now, sleeps great at night usually 8.30 to 6.30 but during the day he like to power nap and i want my good day sleeper back. The house looks like a pigsty as i dont seem to get a chance to do anything during the day, hamish has become very clingy and all i here is mummm mumm mummm kinda wish he never learnt the word sometimes, no only kidding. It is very frustrating to go from a two hour sleep morning and afternoon to 30 min here and there, although i am hoping it is just his teeth and soon it will sort itself out. fingers crossed anyway. I know i probably shouldn't whinge as a few of you are still not getting much sleep at night sorry. Hamish got his first tooth yesterday and the other one is poking its way up also, the top o ne look not too far away either. He gets pretty kranky and savage with his hands in his month alot lately, poor little mite you gotta feel sorry for them. Dont understand why we are not born with them, would be alot easier. lol
Ok i better go get some housework done before work. Have a christmas party tomorrow night and mum is looking after kids at her place for the night, cant wait for the break ohhhhhh it will be fabulous. lol

nana: nah my birthdya is 16th so next tues. i dont think he is smart enough to organise anythign else and make me think we r goign on the boat to put me off lol.
he is tryin to do somethign nice but he just thinks about wat he likes not put the effort into doing somethign i would like.
i have been dropping hints about goign to this place that has a day spa but i guess i wasnt obvious enough lol.

bec: good idea about putting him in daycare earlier that way u can work otu any upsets b4 u really need the care and cant go back to sort it all out.
I had this kid come to me once she had never been alone with anyone not even her father and the parents were together. she only lasted 3 days cause she had this real high pitched squeel cry that lasted the whole tiem the mother was gone.

ABB: have fun at ur chrissy party. :( i dont get one this yr Dh has already had his.

Hello ladies....

Nikki- No offence taken... I BF DS til 3 months and with supply issues had to resort to bottle... Once i switched he was a different kid... no more waking every 2 hours day and night he turned into a good sleeper during the day and we had 3-4 hour stints at night. I have same issue as NaNa, DD wont take a bottle... she has had a few but its not consistent... Just wheni think yeah she drank one she'll refuse the next one... so i cant win... i've tried formula and EBM and she refuses both... Oh well... If my supply gets that low she'll end up taking a bottle if she's that hungry/thursty...

NaNa- bugger bout the Toxic Poop.. Ewwweee... we've got no visual on the top teeth yet but all other signs point to teething... Poor bubbas.... I feel so bad for them... Also i felt like screaming horray when i woke up full for a change... YAY on the porridge too...I havent tried that yet... Hmmm great idea though...

Bec- I have to do the same with DD also... Jordan will need to start few extra days to get ready for Big school after next yr and when i go back to work in May I'll have the 2 kids in care... Not sure how that will go 2 kids for 2 days... will have to speak with CL to see what my rebate will be to see if its worth it for me... Its 56 a day for DS and 58 a day for DD SO hoping i get a good rebate or it wont be worth sending them for me working 2 days.... I'll be working to pay for care...

Abb- sounds full on all the organising for DD's school next yr... gosh... mush be nerve racking thinking bout your DD going to Highschool... YAY on the tooth also... SOunds like everyone is having clingy issues... Must be another phase... YAY on the break for the chrissy party... enjoy...

Sass- Isnt it weird that men dont get plainly obvious hints... maybe next time you need to tell him straight i want thins.... lol... i was supposed to get a bracelet for chrissy from MIL and DP... Well MIL decided she's get us a plasma TV... WTF... i cant wear a plasma... I asked DP why she's think i wanted a TV.. (its like his and my present) he told me that he said it was a good idea... :o so i told him now he has to buy me the bracelet when the after chrissy sales are on... no cheap one cos its only him buying it... i want the one i wanted that they were going 1/2s in... LOL... So i know what its like to be well disapointed... Hope you have a good time...

Well best be off... DD is asleep finally 1st sleep for the day... best make some use of this time...