Babies Born May 2007 #4

What a day!!!!!! Dave is sick (and we all know how males get when they sick!) and Olivia is out of sorts after her needles this morning and a house full of visitors so I'm run off my feet and completely exhausted.

Rae - Thank you for the reassurance about Olivia. Fantastic routine your little girl is in.

Lulu - I hear you loud and clear. Feel free to vent away here. That's what we are here for.

Danni - Hope Mason has settled for you and slept soundly.

Tan - Olivia is copying Izzy. I swear she poos deliberately just so she can get up. She will not settle or have a dirty/wet nappy.

Beck - It is really hard when they have unsettled days when you're by yourself even with heaps of sleep. I've lost count of the amount of days I've watched the clock and counted the minutes until Dave is due home. To get a new avatar you need to email Kathryn and give her your details that you want included.

Lis - Did you manage to get bubby to sleep for you for longer than 10 mins.

Alex - I have to laugh at the thought and image of Jack climbing out the doggy door. It would be so cute looking out the window seeing him run around the backyard.

Mel - Isobelle is growing beautifully. Bugger about the sleeping though. Goodluck at the Osteopath I hope it helps sort out your back.

Sarah - Hope little mans cast and appt went well today.

Wednesday 11th is fantastic for me. I can't wait to meet everyone.

Gotta dash and sort out dinner for everyone. AARRGGHH!!!!!!

Luv Dan
(Sorry about the crappy personals. I'll do better next time)

Mel - so sorry about your back hun. How annoying. Hope the osteopath helps sort it out. Go Isobella on her growth!!!

Alex- I wouldn't be surprised if Tia was about to have a growth spurt too cause she's been wanting to feed heaps more over the last day or so. Toby sounds like he's going great guns too!

Beck - Yay to have you back!!! DOn't worry we all have those 'hell days' - actually i had about 4 hrs of it last night from about 8-12...Tia just wanted to cry, cry, cry and feed heaps too. I drank heaps of coffee during the day (which i don't normally do) and i'm pretty sure she got bad wind from it and was in a bit of pain. And of course Paul was out...i swear these twins of ours love to leave the 'joyous' moments for us alone. OH and as for the preg belly avatars we have to email Kathryn and let her know we want a change. I prob won't bother cause my platinum membership runs out next month anyway.

Lis - i haven't forgotten you and will email you through those sling details asap :)

Hi to everyone!!!

Hey girls,

Just on my way to bed...

Hope everyone had a good day and these bubbas let us have a good night too;)

Nick is taking Jack to The Wiggles tommorow!! I think he is more excited than Jack!!

Dan, yeah it is funny (not the extra washing though!!).. He goes to our sliding door first and says " ow side??" and I tell him "No, it's too cold and wet", but give him about 15 mins when I'm busy with Toby and he's out there!! Doesn't help that him and our dog are attatched at the hip!! They just adore each other!!hehehehe

Rae, Yeah, I can't wait till Toby's 8 week checkup to see what he weighs now!!
Ok gotta go...Talk 2moro ladies..:asleep::asleep:

Hi guys, hope everyone is well.

Just a quick one for me again before I go to bed; finally got Isobella to sleep. Had my appt today and the osteopath has told me that the reason my back keeps going is because my pelvis has rotated and we weren't able to fix it today as it is still to tender so I have another appt next thursday to try again and in the meantime I have some stretches to do to try and help it plus I have to work on my stomach muscles so that they can regain their strength to help take the pressure off my back.

Isobella has here immunisation tomorrow not looking forward to seeing her get a needle! :( plus (sorry if TMI) I was supposed to have a papsmear but AF has come to visit today even though I am fully bfeeding so I don't know if the doc will be able to do it after all.

Lee so glad to hear from you and to hear that baden is well - how did the needles go?

Sez how is Nicky going?? and you?? it must have been scary!

Dan sorry to hear that Olivia has a heart murmur - how are things going besides that?

Hope everyone else is well and that your bubbas aren't giving you too much grief (and that you aren't up atm and getting plenty of rest.
Sleep tight xx

Mel - I think I got AF yesterday.. How strange isn't it? I thought it didn't happen while bfing.
Not this soon anyway.. Good luck with Isobella's injections today!!

Alex - Sounds like you get a mini break today! Hopefully Toby lets you get ample rest!

Dan - Sorry to hear about Olivias heart murmur, I hope everything turns out alright. Noah's appt went well thank you!

Ugh Noah is screaming again, I don't know whats going on anymore, I will try to be back later!!!

Hi Everyone!

Wow you busy Mum's like to post a lot!! I thought I would read through and try and get grasps on everyone before I introduced myself, and everytime I log on there is another page of posts!!!

Anyway, my name is Michelle, I am 27 and have just had bub number 3 on the 25th May! My eldest DD is 8, next DD is 3 and then we have our little man who is 5 weeks! Little Angus was born at 38wks, but was a big boy at 4110gms or 9lb 1oz after an induced labour of 3 hours. It sounds like my boy has the same lack of wanting to sleep as all the other bubs at the moment. He won't go any longer than 3 hours between feeds even at night, hates his cot and will only settle in bed with DH and I, and during the day will only sleep when he is being carried or in his swing. But on the whole is a good baby, and when he smiles all is forgiven!! His sisters love him heaps, but have kindly shared a snotty nose with him at the moment, so he is a bit miserable, but only when he is trying to feed cause he can't breathe properly at the same time!!

Anyway, can't wait to get to know you all a bit better, wish I was in Melb, by the sounds of it you have a Mothers group happening down there!! Have to say the weather up here in Nth QLD is resembling Melb at the moment, is sooo cold and the sun has only just come out after 2 weeeks of rain!! Prob why Angus likes to snuggle in bed to try and stay warm!!

Anyway, take care!!

Michelle :D

welcome michelle :)

Sarah- hope Noah is ok!? Is the plaster bothering him? So good to see you and Danni yesterday - cant wait til our next meeting!! With AF - I guess everyones different and thats why they say that using breastfeeding isnt really great contraception- hence why im going on the mini pill asap!!!

Mel - you poor thing with your back thats awful. Must be so hard for you hun - hope you have been getting some help and Isobella is helping out oo by letting you get some rest!:hug: Sounds like she is going great guns! I though Izzy was huge at nearly 5kgs! She has the cutest rolls of fat around her thighs and wrists - i cant stop kissing her!

Dan- yay for the 11th! I cant wait!!! Now we just need to decide where!! Arent men the worst when sick/hurt!? Al has been complaining of rib pain for nearly 2 weeks now - he got kicked in the side at soccer (someone asked ages ago - he plays for Glen Waverley - a new club and he is new at it too!!) and he wont go to the doctor -he cant cough or sneeze without grabbing his side. I told him its his own fault if he has a cracked rib poking into his kidney because he refuses to go the the Dr (B*** i am!!) Men ...pffft:rolleyes: Hope Olivia is going well too hun!

Beck - 4 weeks - lucky you - that would have been great! I was glad to have 2 with Al!
Poor Lexi with her cold - hope she is better now, dont worry about swearing/getting frustrated, we are only human hun and get annoyed/short tempered at times. You should hear my groans when I have to get up for feeds - terrible...

Lis - Hope Elena is settling a bit better for you- so time consuming just getting them to sleep isnt it!

Rae- sounds like you are going really well with your gorgeous girls!! Luckily these cherubs are so cute hey especially when they are up all night crying and exhausting their mummies! How are you recovering from your c/s - hope you arent in too much pain.

Danni - hope you are going ok - hows Mason today?? Hope you are going to rest up after your mission yesterday!

Hi to all the other yummy mummys Ive missed!

We are going really well - no major issues really, but now that Im getting this day routine in place - (kind of a routine!) she is feeding earlier in the evening, and she wont nap in the late afternoon so is exhausted and eats and sleeps from between 5pm -630.When she has woken at 1030 for an extra feed (been thinking about giving her a dreamfeed anyway) she still wakes 4 hours later - how does she do that ? I swear it is EXACTLY 4 hours later to the minute. So although we have a 6-8 hour sleep - it starts at around 5-6pm- hopefully I will come up with some bright idea to get it to start at midnight til 6!!!

Well Im about to have a nap while miss Isabelle is down - (second nap this morning - whoo hoo) - we are going to school today to visit the kids and teachers!! Im a bit excited about two days in a row with adult interaction!!!

Quick question- anyone using grobags?? I want to start using ours but she sleeps so much better if her arms are swaddled down - any ideas?? Can i use a sheet or wrap for her arms and torso??? also - its sooo long- and according to sids they are down the end of the bed right - so what do you do with the excess bag near her feet??

Well better get this nap in ladies - hope you all had a restful night and peaceful day with your cherubs!:D

Hey Michelle- my post obviously took too long for me to write!!! Welcome and we are a bit chatty in here so dont stress if you cant keep up!! Sounds like you have your hands full and congrats on the birth of little Angus!

Hello!!

Sorry I haven't posted for a few days - once again, I've just been far too busy!! Now that I'm driving again, I've been out and about most days - it's crazy!! I'm getting a bit tired from it all so I really must slow down a little - it's just great to have a little bit of independence back again!!

Well, the feeding is still going really well, although my nipples are a little sensitive still but sooo much better than before!!! I'm just praying the mastitis stays away, it's freaking me out!!! I can't handle getting it again!!

Yesterday, I went and visited a family friend who has a one week old bub and my god, he was soooo tiny!! It made me realise just how big Luke is and there's only 5 weeks difference between them!! Luke is a big boofer though, he now weights 5.1kg!! No wonder my back hurts so much!! I'm having trouble holding him!!

Everything else is good - Luke is sleeping really well still at night - between 5 and 7 hours at a time, then he usually settles really well and goes back down for another 2 to 3 hours BUT during the day, it's really hard. Doesn't help that I'm out and about so much and we have absolutely no routine but we'll get there. I've got lunch to go to today as its my stepdads birthday, so that should be nice.

Will try and pop back in later for some personals.

Kelly xxx

Welcome Michelle!!

Kelly, YAY for driving again!! Makes you feel human again doesn't it...Hope Luke's day sleeps get better too..

Tan, I have just started using a grobag for Toby and I am yet to figure out if he likes his arms wrapped or not;) What size do you have?? I have the 0-6 months one and there is not too much at the bottom... Maybe you could tuck it back under?? And I think when SIDS say about putting them right down the bottom, I'm sure they mean when they are covered in blankets and sheets etc, cause with a grobag on, they can't slip down into it and be smothered..IYKWIM?? That's why they are so good!! And for when they get bigger and decide to roll and move about and kick their blankies off!!

Well Nick just called and said the Wiggles were excellent!! Jack was just so amazed and sat on his lap the whole time!! He never does that!! Now he's zonked in the car!!

Good afternoon ladies,
Welcome to our little group Michelle and congratulations on the birth of Angus. Can't wait to hear all about your little man and your girls.

Tan - I bought three grobags for Olivia and she absolutely hates them because I can't wrap her in them and she loves to be wrapt and tightly too. She bellows until I take it off and wrap her. Hopefully when she gets a bit bigger she will sleep in them. But I agree with Alex about not worrying about the space at the bottom. I hope you enjoyed visiting your kids and the teachers today. Isn't it the proudest moment showing off your little princess.

Sarah - Hope Noah has settled a bit for you and that his cast isn't annoying the brave little man. How is his sleep going? Do you co-sleep all the time or just overnight. I would love Olivia to cuddle in with me in the morning but she won't have a bar of it. Has Noah been co-sleeping since birth? I can't remember for the life of me.

Sez - Hope that little Nicky is recovering quickly from his little operation. How have you gone with increasing your supply?

Kelly - YAY on being able to drive again and that your feeding is finally going well for you. You have done so much better than I would have. I would have thrown in the towel after getting mastitis. You are doing so well and it's showing with Luke's awesome weight gain.

Mel - How did the immunisations go today? Fingers crossed that little Isobella isn't too upset today for you. That's good news that the osteopath knows how to fix your back for you and now it's only a couple of days until some relief. Look after yourself though.

Has anyone else started on the mini-pill? I have got it here but don't know if I want to take it. I by no means want another baby but don't know about the pill again and especially how strict you have to be with the timing. Guess apart from the pill condoms are our only options. I also thought that we wouldn't get AF when we were exclusively b/f. I guess we are back to not understanding our bodies again.

Well I have been incredibly spoilt the last two nights. Olivia has had her 8pm feed and bath, settled about 10 - 10.30 and has slept until 4am, back in bed asleep by 5am and then slept until 8.30 - 9am. I know it is too early to get excited but the sheer thought of her beginning to get into a routine herself is just too exciting. At 4am my boobs are so rock hard and throbbing they take the next two feeds to settle down. I don't care if she doesn't do it again tonight because I feel spoilt with these two nights. I actually have woken up feeling slightly human and normal again. I forgot how good a few hours of sleep feels and I'm even happy to have the rock hard boobies cause it's totally worth it :D.
Olivia had her injections yesterday. She was so brave and only cried for a few minutes. Mum on the other hand had to suck it up so I didn't cry infront of the other mums. She was in such a great mood and then started bellowing instantly. The poor little girl. I felt so bad but it had to be done.

With our get together I'm pretty easy pleased but it is going to have to be somewhere where this little country bumpkin can find. I do not know Melbourne at all. I'm hopeless :doh:. I'm a little bit nervous about being away with Olivia for a week and how she is going to go not being at home where she is used too. Only one way to find out I guess.

Have a great arvo and catch up later.

Luv Dan & Olivia

Hi everyone and welcome Michelle. Glad to read that everyone's bubbies seem to be sleeping and feeding pretty well on the whole.

Izzy is still not great but does seem a little better, although isn't sleeping longer than 2 hours in one go. I got the famous colic remedy that Caro has been going on about and it really is brilliant. Lis - if you want some for Elena let me know - I'm sure I can post it to you. It really does seem to help, and its almost immediate.

Well, Izzy had her 8 week community nurse check yesterday. She is putting on weight as she should be but seems light compared to a lot of your bubbies (especially Luke!) - she's 4.4kgs and is now 57.5cm long. Otherwise she's doing well with development and not concerns except the reflux. Her mummy on the other hand scored off the charts with the "how are you feeling/coping" multi choice thing they give you. Not surprising given how its been over the last couple of weeks but hopefully things will improve.

Hope to catch up with personals soon - sorry for being slack.

Hey there,

We are still here but have had the worse week.

Last Friday, my older son got sick with the flu, as in influenza not just a cold and poor kid was up alot at night unable to breathe very well. Then on Sunday, I got the flu and it hit me hard, I remember little of Sunday or Monday, I was in bed with Leo running high temps and was delerious.

Then on Tuesday, Leo got very sick very fast :( He caught the flu but went from fine in the morning to lethargic and running high temp at lunchtime and not feeding at all. I rushed him to the GP who sent us straight to the hospital which is an hour and a half away. I had to leave my other sick son and my daughter with someone.

The got him straight in and put a drip in his hand. It was the most awful thing I have seen happen to one of my children, they got one in his tiny hand after ages, and then the vein blew so they had to try again on the other hand. It took ages and he screamed so much and we had to hold him down and he looked at us like it was us putting him through that pain. I have had canuals and I know how much they hurt, so to see my tiny baby going through that was horrible.

They took blood and his temp was soaring, so they started pumping him full of antibiotics through the IV as well as fluids. Then they said they were worried that the fever was masking meningitis and talked about doing a lumbar puncture :( Thank God it didn't come to that.

He was admitted for two nights and we got home late yesterday. He is much better but still pretty sick. he's got to stay on AB's for another 2 weeks.

He stopped feeding though and my milk almost went away. During the hospital stay, I stayed in with him the whole time, it was hard because of my sick son at home and I was terribly torn. My kids were too far away to visit.

Now I have mastitis really bad because I am very run down from the flu which I still have, no sleep and the stress and then LEo not feeding. One quarter of my breast is bright red and the only way I can get out of bed is doping up on panadeine forte. I'm running a temp of over 39 constantly and I'm going to have to find a way to get to a doctor tomorrow.

I don't want to take Leo out, I'm too scared so it's really hard.

Been feeling cursed or something this week.

Take care of your little ones with all those bugs out there, the flu thing is going around Sydney pretty bad and lots of babies were sick in the JHH.

GTG, he crying now.

Tara with such a crappy week I know that a :hug: is in order. Please look after yourself and your sick boys. I do not know how you ladies do it with more than one baby. You are all amazing.
We have our two nephews staying with us because their younger brother is in hospital with croup and their mum is staying with her. My god it is so different with two kids and a baby. The boys only got here 8pm last night and I'm exhausted already.
GTG cause Olivia is crying.
Catch up later,
Dan

Still haven't got time for personals - so sorry!!

We had a crappy afternoon yesterday - Luke just wouldn't settle. From 4pm to 8pm he was a right little bugger but thankfully we finally got him to sleep at about 9pm, so I guess I can't complain. He only slept until 1.30pm though, so we're going backwards again and I only got about 3 hours sleep. I managed to get him back down again after a feed but he woke again at about 5.30pm, so I didn't get much sleep!! Its exhausting.

To make it worse, we've hosting a little dinner party tonight, so I've been busy preparing all day!! Luckily Luke is making up for yesterday afternoon and has been an absolute dream today! We're setting up two friends tonight, so I'm really nervous - I hope it goes well and they get along!!! I've never done this before but its how I met Ryann, so you never know!!

Tara - Big hugs to you, what a crappy week. I hope it all improves for you honey!

Sez - How is everything going, I don't think I remember reading any posts from you lately?

Take care.

Kelly xxx

Sorry to be so quick, but I need to go and express! Just wanted to let you all know that we're doing well, just really busy. Nicholas is a star, he's recovered so well :D I've got the boot off my foot, but I can't drive just yet. My FIL is painting our study starting tomorrow, and I'm not sure if he'll need to disconnect the computer GOD I HOPE NOT! I don't get much time on here these days, but even five minutes a day is good time out. And I start taking Motilium tomorrow, so I'm hoping I don't have any questions about that, though I'm sure I will :rolleyes:

So much going on in here I can't keep up! Sounds like a few of you are doing it tough ATM though, big hugs to you all.

Love Sez xoxo

I finally get a chance to get on to do more than read the posts, thank god it has been quiet so I don't have a lot to catch up on ;) I hope all of your bubbies have been much better behaved than my little monster, the last few days have been trying and I have to wonder if he is a little behind on the wonder week.

Sez - Yay on the boot coming off, you will be driving out and about in no time I am sure, no more cabin fever!!! I don't know how you went so long without the freedom to go wherever you wanted whenever you wanted.

Kelly - Sounds like Luke was a little monster yesterday, hopefully he keeps up the good behavior tonight so you can play cupid without having to settle him all night.

Dan - A practice run on having more kids, sounds exhausting. I hope your little nephew gets better soon. Noah and I co-sleep all the time and it has been going on since birth, I am working on a feed, play, sleep routine again and trying to settle him in his bassinet in the day unless I am going to have a snooze too, then we snuggle on the sofa.

Tara - A :hug: is definitely in order for you, what a terrible week! I hope your mastitis clears up for you quickly.

Lulu - I am glad to hear that things are looking better for you, it isn't unusual that babies sleep for a 2 hour stretch at a time, that is what the experts say happens and then one long sleep of 4-6 hours or so, Noah only sleeps for 1-2 hours at a stretch and his long sleep is 4 hours, the problem is he doesn't have many daytime sleeps, only about 2.

Tan - I think it is a wonder week that is bothering him :doh: Not a lot of fun but at least a sunny week follows. I really should get off my a$$ and get my P's so I can come to Melbs more often.

Michelle - Welcome! Bad weather in Qld??? All the ad's show nice blue skies!! When I arrived in Oz in 2002 I was going to head up that way but never got around to it. Fingers crossed it warms up for you.

Ack!!! My legs are dead! I was just sitting back on my feet and knees on the floor while I typed that and now I get the joy of pins and needles...
So today I have been working on the feed, play, sleep routine but it goes more like this, feed, play, feed again and then sleep, so 2 sleeps today were with me, and I decided to see if he would do another sleep on his own since I need to get ready for dinner at the IL's. I do the feed, then I played for the 1 1/2 hours, then I had to feed him again and I am about to put him in the bassinet, when he wakes!! I decided to leave him there and he fussed a little but I walked out of the room. He started to cry so I go back in and sing a nursery rhyme and then say nighty night and leave the room and 2 mins later I walk in and he is sleeping!! 30mins later he is still sleeping and I cannot believe it! The goal is to get him to have his daytime sleeps on his own so I can get things done during the day. Well I better get ready but I was so excited at this development I just had to share. :lol: Am I the last person to settle their child in their own bed? :lol:

OK, another quick one from me - I've just put Luke down but I don't like my chances of him actually falling asleep!!

Sarah - Well done!! Sounds like you're getting things sorted with day sleeping - lets hope it stays that way!! I'm having trouble there too but thankfully yesterday, Luke was a dream. Ryann put him down and when I went in a little later, he was sound asleep!! He never does that for me!!

Sez - So glad all is going well!!

So... the dinner party was great but the set-up was not so great - I certainly didn't notice any sparks flying!!! Oh well, it was still a lovely night, that is until I exploded the gravy in the microwave - long story but lets just say it was EXTREMELY messy and provided some entertainment for our guests!! I'm such an idiot!!

Friends of ours just had a little baby girl too, so we've been for a visit this morning and my god, it totally made us realise how much Luke has grown. He looked like a monster compared to her!!

Oh and very exciting news - we put Luke in his cot on Friday night and he just loves it!! I think he's enjoying being able to see everything as he couldn't see much from the bassinett. He's also loving the extra space. I still wrap him at night but in the day, I let him go and yesterday we found him with his arms right out enjoying the extra space!! So cute. He also had a great daytime sleep and then woke up and just looked around the room for a good half hour or so. He didn't even cry and I ended up just getting him up for some play time!! I couldn't believe it. I'm not holding my breath though!!!

Anyway better go. Take care.

Kelly xxx

Hi everyone

I've been having a tough time with a personal matter at the moment, I'll elaborate later on, I'm just not ready to share ATM.


Blake is still crying 24/7 and eating more than a 6 month old would. I'm getting so much conflicting advice and it is driving me insane.


On a brighter note, Ange (tryin_4_an_angel), Justin and gorgeous little Jade came to visit us on Saturday. Jade was perfectly well behaved, such a smiley little princess. Blake was cranky as per usual, but loves his new girlfriend lol click on the link in my sig for cuuuute pics (and see how giant Blake is compared to Jade!)

I hope everyone is having an easier time than i :)

ok typing one handed so will be quick. We have had an exhausting weekend with very litle sleep, missy has been very cranky. Hugs to all those also having a hard time!

Ash I hope u r ok hun, I'm here if u need to talk/vent.

Hopefully be back tomorrow 4 personals. Nighty night all!

Hi there girls!

Thought I might finally get my butt in here and join in the fun :) We are all doing really well, but very busy as you can imagine...hence my slackness in returning to the online world! Hope to get in here and chat a bit more from now on though as we seem to be settling into a bit of a groove now :)

My littlest man, Lachlan Daniel, was born 23rd May. I'll post a bit of a birth story soon.

Lots of love- have missed you girls!

PS- Are we able to post pics in here? I forget the rules- a member of too many forums LOL

HI ladies,
Lets see how I go here!

Hi Lindy!! - Congrats on the birth of Lachlan - photos arent allowed but links to photo sites are - just add it to your signature!

Lis - hope you got some rest last night - sounds like you are doing it tough.

Ash- Huge hugs hunny. Remember we are all here to support you, so when you are ready vent away and know that we are all here for you. The conflicting advice sucks hun, sometimes you just have to ignore it all and go with your gut. You are his mum and you will know and do what is best for him. :hug: Glad you had a nice visit with Ange and Jade too!

Kelly - yay for the cot!! Ive been putting Isabelle in hers with her mobile on while I shower etc and she LOVES it too! She doesnt look so little in it anymore either - so am wondering how much longer to keep her in the cradle! I like being able to tuck the blankets close around her on these icy Melbourne nights though - so maybe in Spring!! PMSL at your gravy! I once set fire to bread in the griller twice when we had guests over - Very funny! Hows the bfing going hun? Hope its all cleared up and smooth sailing from here on in!

Sarah - Yay on Noahs sleeping!! Thats awesome hun-thats what Ive been doing too - feed, play sleep, watching for tired signs - putting her bed awake, and settling her with a pat, a shhh and a dummy:rolleyes: which she spits out once asleep!! Its working though even though she only sleeps for an hour at most during the day - and from 4pm is a nightmare - will discuss in a sec!! Hope his plaster is ok on his leg?

Sez - whoo hoo:dance: for no more boot! When can you drive?? you are one patient woman - I would be going stir crazy and calling all family members and friends to come and get me out!! Good luck too with the motilium - hope it helps!

Dan- makes you admire people with a newborn and 1,2,3... other kids - women really are super heroes hey!! Hope Olivia has been behaving and only one week to go! We need to work out a time/place too!!

Tara - super big hugs to you and the boys hun :hugs: what an awful time you have been having. Hope you are all feeling better soon and hoping your mastitis clears up quickly.

Lulu - I hope Izzy is recovering well and you are getting some rest too hun. Sounds like you are having a rough trot too - make sure you take some time out when you can. I jump in the bath (yes water restrictions:rolleyes:) when Al gets home a few nights a week just to have some time to myself while he watches her for me.

Alex - Ive got a newborn grobag but it still seems to have alot of space at the bottom - Izzy is 55cms long.. not sure - she still sleeps better when we wrap her tight so might put of using it for a bit longer! Glad the boys had fun at the wiggles!!

Lee, Michelle, Mel, Rae, Mel, Jan and lots of others Im sure Ive forgotten -big hugs to you all!!!

Well our routine is slowly settling in. Izzy definately has a "witching hour" which is funny becasue its lasts much longer than one hour. From about 3 or 4 she will not sleep until anywhere from 630-8 and during this entire time she is grizzly unsettled, feeds every 40 minutes or so, rubs her eyes etc.. Really not sure what to do. Now during the day she settles well for her nap with a bit of a grizzle but drops off for at least an hour. I try the same routine but it doesnt work.

Luckily she is sleeping anywhere from 6-8 hrs when she does go down, then wakes 4 hours later (do they have a built in alarm clock - it is 4 hours almost to the minute!!) then 3 hour intervals until 3-4pm. Weird. Oh well Im sure we will settle in.

Went to Pumpkin Patch today and got the best bargains- stocked up on a heap of stuff for next years winter too!! Saw the LC at the centre for the pain in my right bb, and it is stil just an attachment issue, a few tips should help but I honestly think that we will never feed correctly on that side. Both of us are s*** !!at it so will just have to put up with a bit of pain i guess.

Tonight we went to visit a friend who had their baby last night - only 7lb 4 oz - sooo tiny compared to our little keg!! Ha ha she looked huge compared to him, so cute!! Made us realise how quickly she will grow up!

Anyway my contacts are blurring up and I need bed - so will chat again tomorrow!
G'night mums and bubs!

Evening ladies,
A real quick one from me. Olivia has turned into a complete nightmare and hasn't sleep for more than an hour since Saturday evening. I'm completely beside myself and am completely out of ideas on what to do :wall:. If she was just crying and grizzling I think I would be coping better but she is absolutely histerical (sp??). Yesterday absolutely no one could look at or touch her except Dave. The poor bugger is so tired because he had to be up with her all night and then go to work. I sat there with him but she wouldn't let me touch her. Today I've worn Dave's clothes all day and at least she would let me touch her. Thank god sleep school is only two nights away. Please hurry Wednesday!!!!

Tan I was thinking how it is only a week to go as well. I'm getting excited. I can't wait to met all of you lovely ladies and cuddle all these beautiful babies. I am staying in an apartment/hotel on Little Burke Street. You and Danni know the place where do you think would be best to meet???

Well I'm off to relieve Dave so he can go to bed. God I hope tonight is better than last two nights because I don't think I can take much more of this. What happened to my good little girl?

Hope everyone is getting there and their babies are behaving better than mine.

Luv Dan.

HI Everyone,

Firstly I would like to say welcome to Lindys and Michelle

Dan OMG - you must be exhausted!!!! Good luck on Wednesday - I have been thinking about finding out about a sleep school here as Isobella is still not going to sleep before 2am!!!
She is usually awake from 7pm-2am; amd the other day I was talking to a friend and we realised that it was the time the I was in established labour till. My contractions didn't really hurt till about 6:30 - 7 and I had her at 1am but she didn't go to sleep till just after 2 once we weighed her, feed her etc. Has anyone else found that their little ones active period was when they were having full on contractions?? or is it just me!

Tan my Izzy is going great(except for the sleep) and my back is starting to feel much better but still not very strong and that will take a little while to fix as long as I try to do my excercises. I am using a sleeping bag also but I just wrap her like normal but I have home made wraps that are extra big to be able to do that . Oh and I am glad to hear that she is settling better through the days for you.

Kellly YAY on the driving and bfeeding!! IKWYM about being out all the time I think that is part of the problem why Izzy won't sleep at night as she loves the movement and sleeps all day. Exploding gravy hey!!!

Dan the immunisations went alright the other day - poor thing she screamed her little lungs out and was desperately trying to move her legs away each time making the needle move in her leg. It made me feel like such a horrible mother but I know that it has to be done! Also I have got the mini pill but because I had issues with my cycle before falling pg I wanted to wait till I had AF before starting them.

Tara how are you and the boys feeling now? I hope things are better, it is never nice to see your kids sick

Sez Congrats on getting the boot off you must be feeling relieved and glad to hear that Nick is feeling so much better

Sarah I am still having troubles getting Izzy to settle in her own bed at nights too. Especially when she is exhausted and is screaming then suddenly falls asleep in my arms then when I put her in her bed she wakes up. If it gets too late and I am too tired I give in a bring her to bed with me or end up falling asleep with her in my arms on the lounge.

Lulu don't worry my Izzy doesn't sleep more than 2hours in a hit either as she was feeding every 2 hours which I have now pushed out to 3; so by the time that I change her nappy feed her and we play a little it doesn't leave much time for her to sleep longer than that

Ash thinking of you.......we will all be here when you are ready to talk

Hi Lis, Lee, Rae, Danni, Jan, Alex, Beck and anyone else that I have missed hope you and bubs are well.

Well I better go check on little miss she is watching TV in her swing (fingers crossed she has fallen asleep) as there is no point trying to fight her to go to sleep it just makes things more stressful.

Whoo hooo!!!

After an evil unsettled night during and after our hospital visit last night Isabelle went to sleep jsut before 9 and slept til 5!!!!!!!OMG - and then until just after 8!
So exciting - I know it can all change in a flash and I really need to work out the afternoon early evening thing but whoo hoo for Izzy! Ha ha!

I have a friend visiting today so better go do some quick cleaning - enjoy your day ladies!!

WE'RE HAVING LUNCH!!!

On Wednesday 11th July at 2pm at the Bluetrain Cafe on Southbank

Absolutely everyone welcome cause the more the merrier

Hope you can all come and catch up with mum's and bub's

:clap:Isabelle says whoo hoo and we will be there with bells on!! (Not really - haha!!):clap:

ok fine, Mason and I will wear the bells :D

Fingers crossed Noah's surgery is first on the go! I can't wait. Can I wear bells too? Will catch up later, getting much needed time to tidy up while Juz is here :lol:

oh no its an overnight stay at the hossy!!! now i can't do wednesday :crying:

It might take me a couple of days to find out what is happening re Noah's tenotomy, it does sound like an overnight stay now, I am awaiting confirmation about that and if it is, I am leaving it to Juz whether we get home asap on Thurs so he can work. I know he wants too because 2 days off will be hard on his wallet but he also knows how much it means to me so I dare say we will stay for a little while on Thurs.

Tan - That is great about Izzy's sleep. How sad is it when you see a smaller baby to realize how quickly ours are growing up. I saw a 7 month old yesterday that was the same size as Noah. I can't wait to weigh him when the plaster is off!

Mel - I hope Izzy fell asleep for you, I don't know whats worse, staying up late with them or waking up frequently with them. Oh well when they smile it all melts away anyway ;)

OMG I just spent the last hour settling Noah, I cannot believe he will just not go down for a sleep. He was up every 30min to 1hr as usual all night and then we crashed on the sofa for 5 hours so he had his long sleep already so tonight is now screwed and now he has been up for 4 hours I have done everything including foiling his window and I have white noise playing too. Arg!!! Will try to finish personals later!

:happyforyou:Olivia and I will most definetely be there:happyforyou:

Why do these gorgeous little creatures insist on fighting sleep when they are exhausted? No wonder she will sleep so long when she does finally succumb to it!

Went for an hour power walk to coles- i need to get rid of this jelly belly and she slept for about 30 minutes and thats it since 1 o'clock ... really not sure what else to try.

Hope you all had a great day and come on Melbournites the more the merrier!

Hi everyone!
Going to do a selfish one tonight as Izzy has fallen asleep and it is before 1am YAY!!! and I am going to try to go to sleep early (well earlier than normal)

Well she did fall asleep for me and she slept through till 4!! Shame I didn't get that much sleep I waited till 2 thinking she would wake for a feed but she didn't.
We also went for a power walk to the shops to grab some essentials that we needed (can get away with not doing a proper shop this week) and all the way home she screamed - typical normally she sleeps when she is in the pram.

Hope everyone is well - Goodnight sleep tight xx

Hey everyone!

Sounds like the Melbourne get together is going to be great!! Wish I was closer, but have to say the weather has improved and am enjoying the warm weather during the day again, I def hate the cold so would not survive in Melb!!

Hopefully Angus will sort his sleep issues out soon, both the girls were sleeping through the night at 6 weeks, but Angus still wakes every 3 hours for a feed. He takes a bit to settle, but not 4 hours like Noah, poor you Sarah!!! I try and cheat and feed Angus in bed with me at night, but he is quite windy so I have to get up to burp him otherwise he gets bad tummy pain or just spews. I am off to work today to visit everyone and show off my boy, hope he behaves!! Am taking the girls to my brothers so they should have fun playing with their cousins. Luckily I am not going tilll 12 cause I can't possibly ever be organised before 10 at least these days!! Just sorting clothes and baths seems to take ages for 3 kids (and I tell my DH that I want another one!!) Anyway sorry about the selfish post, am still trying to remember everyones names and bubs and previous posts without reading them all again!! Love to see all the Isabellas though, cause that is the name I wanted if we had a girl!! I also wanted Noah for a boy but my DH wanted Angus and I named both girls, so was his turn!

Hope everyone has a great day!

See-ya
Michelle :D

Michelle - good luck back at your work! I went back to mine last week (Im a teacher) and i got mobbed!! The staff were so excited and it was so fun to show off my princess!
Hope Angus settles into some sort of sleeping pattern for you soon. Its tough working out these little monkeys isnt it! and you have 3 - wtg!! You might have said already but how old are your girls?? I hear you n the getting ready - takes so long to pack the nappy bag - get Izzy dressed, me showered and zuuzjed up!! Wish you wer in Melbourne too!

Mel - hope you got a few hours sleep hun, sometimes you just have to sleep for a few minutes hoping it will drag to something decent! ikwym about the pram - Izzy always cries just as Im paying or doing something where i cant get her right then!

Hello everyone else - hope you are well! Other than a few of us its a bit quiet in here!!

Well- we are having a few issues with our pram :(so annoying. We even called baby bunting to see if we ould exchange it as we are so p***** off. They said we could get the amount we paid less 10-15% which is fair enough as we have used it a few times, but I dont want another pram! I dont want to pay a huge amount more, even though Ilike the Steelcraft strider(we have the transaction 4 wheeler) but you cant lie the baby flat unless you use the bassinet which i dont like.(Does anyone have a pram that does this - like the bugaboo or quinny?) One of the wheels on ours keeps lifting off the ground when its uneven (like a foot path) and gets all wobbly when it goes back on the ground and the handle is sort of wobbly.
Other than that I love the look of it and it is easy to manover even in coles etc.and for the price we paid I dont like any others so not sure what to do.

I might just have to go back to baby bunting and see what else is there- what would you guys do? Any recommendations around the 500 mark??

Anyhoo - better try and get this moppet to sleep, have a great day ladies - catch you all soon!

aaarrrrghhhhhhhhhhh. Just lost my long post!!! Bugger bugger bugger

Anyway, basic update is that Izzy finally seems to be turning a bit of a corner. She has slept through from 8pm to 5am for the last two nights. I'm not convinced it will last, but I'll take this very nice routine while I can. She has been horrendous for the last fortnight and I was really starting to struggle holding it together so the improvement has been just what I needed. I still really struggle with day sleeps, although today she has had a couple of hours this morning and has been asleep now for 30 minutes. The magic colic mixture I got really does seem to be helping.

Tan - I have the Mountain Buggy Elite, but the MB Urban (which is basically the same) is about the $500 mark. The recline position is fully adjustable, so you can have Izzy lying basically completely flat or whatever upright you want. Really easy to push, collapse etc and is relatively light. What is it about these little munchkins changing things on you - one minute they love being out for a walk in their pram, the next minute they scream the second they see it!! They sure do keep their mummies guessing.

I hope you Melbourne girls have a great catch up - I wish I could come and play but its a tad far to come for a coffee!!

Hope I haven't jinxed things and Izzy remains settled so I can come back later.

I won't do all my personals again - sorry, but just don't have the time to do it again now.

tan: you dont need one that lays completely flat. Its actually better if the baby lies a bit upright iykwim?

I have the bertini moonlight 4 wheeler with reversible handle and i love it! it has the sleeping bag which i love and keeps mason so toasty! It is around $400.

hey lulu: hope the sleeping keeps up! Mason slept 11 hours last night, fed, then another three hours!

Thanks Danni - I think I still would like the option though? sOME of them are permanantly in that funny possie...
Do you like my Av??!! Ha ha - cute hey!

Well another good night here - Izzy slept from 630-3 and then till 745, so we are in somewhat of a pattern, which still includes witching hour from 4 pm onwards.

Anyway - I did pilates last night! My first proper exercise since the caeser - Um did I also give birth to my stomach muscles?! I took it really easy but cant believe how much the pregnancy and caeser have changed what I can do physically!! Looking forward to getting MUCH fitter and toning up this tum!

Well ladies - Im sure I will be back later on - have a great day all!