Saffi - my health nurse has referred me, just waiting for their call, but I think tweddle do controlled crying anyway, so I don't know how I'll go!
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Saffi - my health nurse has referred me, just waiting for their call, but I think tweddle do controlled crying anyway, so I don't know how I'll go!
Absolutely Viv & Kellie! Just because something works for someone else, doesn't mean it will work for you and your bub. You really need to do what you feel is right, otherwise you will be causing a great deal of stress for yourselves when you don't have to.
I've had K in a feed/play/sleep routine since he was around 2 weeks old so it works for us. Getting him to sleep can be hard work at times though and it can be really stressful when I'm feeling exhausted. For some reason babies fight sleep instead of welcome it! Other times it goes really well (like 10 minutes ago!) and I feel really good about it all. I think everyone finds the whole daytime sleep thing stressful at some stage! Why doesn't anyone tell you that before the baby arrives??
Trish - I dont get why they fight it... if someone tried to put me down for a 2 hour nap, I'd be grateful!
funny... just after i wrote that i went to put james to bed and it's almost like he wants to do the last bit by himself now. he wriggled and opened his eyes then rolled over onto his side and out he went. he dropped his dummy so i put it back in (i'll confiscate it in 5 minutes) and he just struggled around trying to give in. i did a little bodyrock which actually seemed to bug him. when i took my hands off... out he went.
i knew he'd do it when he felt like it... he's his mothers son *eyeroll*
Thanks Trish & Nic, her cradle cap is pretty much gone :D
Viv i think I'm coping a lot better now we have a routine, Maddi is older & i know what her different cries mean, but there are still times when i don't know how i do it.
I self settle....worked for both girls. Might not for next bub but we'll see. Have to do what is best for you and baby....ive seen my sisters kids get rocked to sleep and she had major sleep issues for yeard and years...so i learnt from her 'mistakes' so to speak. Before we had a fall out she offered tips with sleep wise...and self settling was one. And not to co-sleep. Both of which i have followed and has been bliss for us. Im glad most of us ahve found something that works when its shut eye time!!! :)
Feed wise...Jasmine is dropping bottle sizes...200ml used to be polished off...now leaving 30-50mls....so back to small bottles. Sleep going well, growing great. Cradle cap is GONE!! (Well tiny bits of flakes now and then). Some one was talking bout in here not long ago....i tried alot of things and nothing worked UNTIL...i brought some Moo Goo Infant Scapl Cream....and ive never looked back. 2 days and it was gone!
This morning i dropped Craig off at work, Chelsea off at FDc and then Jasmine and me went to the shops and had a mummy Dd morning. Looked in the shops...bought some clothes, had coffee and cake...then came home had a play and now gone to bed :D
We also got our new fridge...Wooohooo!
Hey all,
LOL Kellie - I'd be greatful for a two hour nap too!
Viv - WTG James for self-settling! I hope he keeps it up for you. It's getting the a point now that I am more an inteference for K going to sleep. Sometimes I need to walk away and he calms down much quicker. It's kind of insulting lol!
Mo - Yay for Maddi's cradle cap going! What did you end up doing?
Kim - Aww...your special mum-daughter morning sounded lovely! Hooray for getting your new fridge!! What did you end up getting? How are you feeling now?
Saffi - Sorry you had such a dud night :hug:. I hope you get some good naps in today to make up for it.
Willow - Thinking of you today at sleep school! Hope it goes really well.
Joel has his first day of kinder without me tomorrow. I'm kind of nervous about how he'll cope, but I'm being optimistic!
Trish we ended up getting a Fisher and Paykel 517L thing from the Good Guys....they were nearly $400 cheaper then Harvey Norman....AND we even got it cheaper then what Clive Peters could offer us (and even cheaper then their cost price my friends hubby could get it for us) so good bargains! Im feeling much better today...glad its gone....i kept saying 'Its like morning sickness all over again' to Craig!!
Viv - well said about the self-settling or not thing - whatever works!! Teo does a bit of both to be honest - I give him 10-15mins to self-settle then if that doesn't work rock or give top-up feed. Most times he is asleep within that time, if not no harm done I say! As for coping - going great guns now! Between 3 and 9 weeks was a different story, but he is a much happier lil fella now. How are you finding it all?
Hee hee Kellie - am in total agreeance of that one! :-)
Girls, I seriously find it so hard to keep up with everyone....I'm so sorry!!
Um....Coping....I am coping, but like everyone I guess I have the days where I just want to walk into oncoming traffic!! All I have to do is take one look at Max, or nuzzle into his little neck and I am FINE!!
Bath routine.... I do a play, bath, feed, bed routine at the end of every day....seems to work for Max!!
He woke again last night at 2 for a feed.....I am wondering whether it is just because it is so hot here that maybe it's just thirst. I'm not complaining, he goes straight back to sleep anyway so no biggie for me. Maybe once it cools down here....he might sleep through the night again..... We haven't had one spec of rain for this whole year....erk!
Max has been a megga sleepy head today AND he's been sleeping on his BACK instead of his tum! YAY....he stays asleep longer on his back coz when he turns his head when he is on his tum, the dummy gets in his way and wakes him up. I always just rock him to sleep...it takes not even 5 mins, so no harm done I say. At night he usually goes down by himself....like last night, man he was good!!
I have noticed that all of a sudden Max is grabbing a lot more at things and shoving them into his mouth. He is also starting to sit forward himself....like when in his car seat he leans forward. He still hasn't rolled yet....but not worried. He is also starting to be awake a bit longer during the days (except today)! Anyone else noticing big changes happening all of a sudden!?
He is being a megga fuss-bag on the boob ATM. Off...on...off...on...off...on! Like he is just playing with it!! Sigh....I'm sure he is getting enough though....I'd know about it if he wasn't I'm sure!
Have a good day everyone...get well soon those sickies out there....AND good luck at sleep school willow.
Kim - I would looooove a new fridge at the moment. Ours is too small now. I do not think our finances will allow that at the moment though. What is this moogoo stuff you talk about? Where do you get it? Chels has mild cradle cap and that stuff sounds great!
Nerida - Sorry you had a tough night. Hope tonight is better!
Self settling - Liam never self settled til he was about 4 months old, but I was fine with that too. Chelsea only goes to sleep on her own (yes little miss is already very independent!) If I try and cuddle her to sleep, she either wont (will start playing) or fidget and cry if she is really tired. The minute I put her down, she is out like a light!
Well we're back from sleep school and we survived! True to form, he slept like a trooper there, but just put him down at home and he didn't go down so well :rolleyes: He's asleep now though, but i had to pick him up for cuddles a few times before he settled.
He settled and even resettled beautifully while we were there! Made me see just what he is capable of and that maybe instead of rushing in there at the first cry, step back a bit and give him a chance to do his thing and wait for him to let me know if he needs some help.
Can't say there were any lightening bolt moments. Just went through stuff I already knew but perhaps reaffirmed that he WILL get it in time if I am consistent. The nurse we saw also helped me to see that I just need to focus on one sleep at a time and not think about what has or might happen at other times.
Funnily enough, there were 4 other babies there today, all around the same age as DS. As the nurse said "Does that tell you something? This is NORMAL baby stuff."
It definitely helps having someone there to support you though. I can't say I actually had to do much settling today though which is a shame. We were asked if we wanted to do a residential stay (ie stay for 3 or 4 nights) but at this stage I don't think it's warranted and would just be a huge interruption to the whole family, especially DD. So what we've done is booked in 3 day stays for the next three weeks. That way I'm still getting lots of support if I want/need it, if not, then no harm done and we'll be going on the days when DD is at preschool so it works out well.
I was dreeeeeading having to see the psych team there and going through my sorry tale again, but got a pleasant surprise because the nurse already knew i was seeing someone privately, so she figured there was no point. So that was one less thing to worry about.
I felt bad for some of the other mums there, some of the poor babies were having a much harder time than DS and were crying sooooo much. Their mums and the nurses were with them but made me realise that things could be a lot worse than what we've got it!
Willow - So glad today went well. The little rascal sleeping a little too well!! It does sound like you are already doing the right things. IKWYM about not rushing in there, I am learning this lesson right now! I had a rough time with Joel who wouldn't sleep because of an undiagnosed dislocated right shoulder (birth injury), he would just cry and cry and I knew something was wrong and couldn't just leave him there. I suppose this has passed on to my method with Kieran and I have to learn to take a step back for a minute or two, it usually works much better that way so I am discovering! It really is a learning experience for both mum and bub. Anyway :hug: hugs to you, you did good today!
Becky - Wow you are so lucky that Chelsea goes to sleep so easily! Don't EVER take it for granted lol!
Julia - It's amazing how they seem to change overnight isn't it?! Max sounds like a clever little boy!
Kim - Wow what a bargain your fridge was! I love a great deal like that! We had a similar experience with our dishwasher, we got it $300 cheaper than anywhere. Glad you're feeling better.
Kieran is having great sleeps today, what a good boy! I have been a good girl and cooked dinner already while he is sleeping so it isn't such a juggling act later. I'm starting to get some really cute laughs out of K now, it's sooo cute! He is such a happy 'lil man, when he smiles his whole body wriggles like he can't contain himself! Awww....
OK, so now he has woken after one sleep cycle and is screaming his head off....WHY couldn't he do this today while we were there???!!!
Willow - so glad to hear today went well for you. Great that you have some follow up sessions booked in. Hopefully things will be improving for you both by then but if not the law of averages would suggest that a bad day will be encountered and you can get some help when he is at his worst (IYKWIM).
Trish - good for you cooking dinner early. Did that too (if you count earlier as last night and the dinner being left overs!).
Rang around all the childcare centres to confirm our interest. One place didn't have any record of our application. Lucky I had kept a record of who I spoke with as when I mentioned the name of the person it seemed like she wasn't very reliable. And I am trusting my child to these people???? Anyway, they have backdated my application so I "retain" my place on the list. Was actually offered days at 2 places if I wanted to put him in immediately. Going to visit one of the centres tomorrow.
Trish i ended up using the olive oil, because i only had that at home. Will keep some Bicarb soda in house from now on tho :)
Willow shame L was on he's best behavior for you at sleep school, hope the other session's help you out more.
Kim great bargain on the fridge.
Saffi have fun visiting the childcare centres tomorrow, hope there is one for you & Lachlan
HI All,
Ahhh the great debate again LOL to self settle or Mum settle? I am with Viv, I think that it is perfectly natural for them to want us. I also believe it is our society and lifestyle that have made us think babies should self settle. But I also don't think Mum should have her eyes hanging out of her head and be unable to function. Do what works for you, not what everyone expects.
Amara has also started to grab stuff and pop it straight in to her mouth :D
No rolling here either, this is a good thing! Trust me....
Weigh in today was 6.4kg and 62cm long.
Finally found a GREAT book for my issues with Eliza. I child psychologist has written abook called the Active Alert Child OMG the book describes her perfectly. It is very good and I am enjoying it. Seems there is not much to do but it helps me to understand her and enjoy her special qualities more.
Nerida - Are you looking at going back to work? Or are you just putting him in childcare for some social activity?
Willow - Good to see DS is behving for ya! Im sure it will get better and easier!
Leah - Hope the book helps! During my first pregancy and when Liam was young, I couldnt have survived without my collection of books! LOL
Morning everyone! We are up earlier than usual this morning, I think Joel's a bit excited about kinder today! He was getting upset about it last night, but I talked him around and now he's happy about it again. I REALLY hope he copes when I leave him.
Kieran slept well last night, but he woke up early too. Never mind, at least that means he'll get a bit of a nap before I have to take Joel to kinder. K has decided his fingers taste better than his fists and he pretty much lives with his fingers in his mouth atm! He is also fascinated with the TV. I deliberately face him away from it on his mat, but he will just crane his neck and body around so he can watch it! I'd leave the TV off, but Joel likes his ABC Kids in the morning.
Willow - How'd you're little man go late yesterday? Were you able to resettle him? I find K doesn't sleep as well for his later naps.
Leah - Glad to hear you've found a helpful book! Kids can be so challenging at times.
Mo - That's great the olive oil worked!
Saffi - Good luck today finding the right DC for Lachlan! When do you start back at work?
Trish - Nope, couldn't resettle him so got up up for 1/2 hour, then bath, massage bed. Took us 30 mins to settle him to sleep and then the only thing that worked was a top up feed.
And surprise, surprise, another crap night last night. That's about 6 in a row now so I just have to assume that's the new norm. I'm starting to run out of energy for this. Days I can handle, days AND nights, I can't.
Goodluck today Trish for Joels big day at Kinder :)
Trish good luck with Kinder Sure Joel will love it.
Willow sorry you had another bad night, really hope tonight is better for you.
Trish - how did you go dropping Joel off? I'm sure he is having a ball!
Leah - I think you summed it up perfectly when you said 'Do what works for you, not what everyone expects.'
Willow - you poor thing... I hope today and tonight are better for you:hug:
Mo - you tricked me! I'm thinking who is 'Trinity' and then I realised it was you? When did that happen? Did I take a while to figure it out?
lol I only put my name request in an hour or so ago, i was surprised it happened so quickly.
Feels odd having a different name now lol
LOL when i got an email notification saying Trinity has replied to a thread....i was like ohh a newbie for our Oct group!!
lol sorry to disappoint Kim...
Finally got my cloth nappies today, thank-you Kim I'm expecting 2 more to arrive this week, then i can try them out & buy some more :)
Excellent Mo... :)
Ive been on a nappy quest myself...but for Chelsea...still not game to put them on Jasmines butt with them yucky poo's still. LOL
Good morning all!! Its been a little while since I managed to get in here and have a look. We have had THE WORST nights the last two nights - little miss C is waking up every 3 hours again!!! We havent changed anything!! I thought Sunday night might have been bad cause the timing was a bit off for everything. She got a feed early and then at 430 (an hour before he bath, feed, bed time) DH got cranky with her crying and said - take her - I've had enough!!! :angry: Hmmm....well of course when she went down at 515 and then was up again at 8, then 11, then 2 then 4 - I had had enough!! And then...when I got back to bed at 445 DH thought me touching him (I was shoving him to get him off my side of the bed!!) was me hitting him up for a bit!! NOT IMPRESSED. So of course back to normal routine yesterday and I was sooooo looking forward to getting some sleep but nooooooo down at 615 as usual up at 1030, then 1, then 4 then I put her into bed with DH and went and slept on the couch!! Got about half an hour before DH's alarm went off.
Coping Not very well at all!! DH works 6 days a week - most days over 12 hours. I have no friends or family out here. No mothers groups or anything like that. I talk more to the lady at daycare who looks after C all day (she is around 50!) than anyone else out here - besides the ladies at work. The last two mornings I have spent in tears after DH has gone to work and have almost needed intravenous coffee to keep me going! Have not lost any weight despite diet and exercise changes. Have absolutely no interest in DTD. and the highlight of my days lately has been getting the mail cause all my birthday presents (and my ebay stuff) are arriving. Time for another visit to my doctor I think.
other than all of that - I am ok. Gave a little vent there so I feel a little better.
In a way I wish I wasnt back at work....there is still so much that I am not getting done around the house even though I start at 10 and finish at 3. I get home and am STARVING so I eat and before I know it its 430 and time to go get C from day care. DH cooking dinner helps.
I cant remember anythign else that I wanted to say and I feel really rude letting all that come out but I think I really needed to say it.
I dont know what I am going to do with C. She is waking all the time cause she is getting out of her wraps. Of course there is nowhere here for me to buy any and I cant find any bigger ones than the ones we have already so I will get a book out and try a different method of wrapping her. I dont seem to have trouble getting her to sleep....its staying asleep that has become impossible.
Anyway - guys I am really sorry for that awfully selfish post!
Rebecca....use a cot sheet to wrap C in....im soooo sorry ur having a rough time. It must suck not having anyone..i hope things imrove soon for you *HUGS*
if it's any consolation, master james is doing 3-hourly feeds over night lately too. sucks eggs badly.
i hear ya. sometimes it's a truly ***** ride.
Awww Rebecca :hug:. You poor love, I really feel for ya! I was about to suggest what Kim said and say to use cot sheets, they make a great big wrap. As for waking o'night, K did that last week for about 4 nights then went back to normal, I am guessing it was a growth spurt. Just hold on, I'm sure it will pass really soon. You are doing such a sensational job being a mum out there all by yourself! Come in here any time to get things off your chest, it really does help to put it all down in writing sometimes. :hug:
Rebecca, I'm hearing you hun!! We are in exactly the same boat and some days (like today) it's just too hard and I feel like we'll never get it right.:
I dont seem to have trouble getting her to sleep....its staying asleep that has become impossible.
Take solace - at times over the last 6 nights, DS has woken after 1.5 hours!! I have no idea what's going on, the growth spurt theory is out the window at this point....and it happened suddenly for us too, one night he was fine, the next it all went pear shaped.
As for the wraps, I think they get to a certain age and nothing will keep them in unfortunately. Our wraps are HUGE, 1.5m x 1.5m so not much smaller than a cot sheet, and he still gets out of them. The nurse at sleep school yesterday said at this stage wrapping is more a sleep signal than to keep them contained, but I'm not really buying that theory just quietly...
Rebecca - you really have it tough, you poor thing. Don't be sorry for writing how you feel. We are here for you even if it is only at the computer. Is it possible that your mum or MIL can come out for a week or so to help you out?
Trish - how did Joel go at kindy? I am sure he is having the best time and you won't be able to keep him away. It will be nice for you and K to have some 1 on 1 time.
Willow - sorry to hear of another carp night. Don't have any suggestions to offer, so just know that I am thinking of you.
Becky - I am due to go back to work at the start May. In all I took 7 months Mat Leave. DH will be taking at least 3 months off on Long Service Leave once I go back so looks like we won't be needing day care so soon. Ideally I would like to have another 6 months off, but the realities are that I can't. At least with DH taking leave L will be a little older before he goes into care.
Went to visit one of the centres today. Looked alright, but I don't know, wasn't overly wrapped with it. All the staff looked so young, too young to have kids let alone care for them.
Going to look at the professional photos taken of L this afternoon. Can feel the credit card will take a battering. Going to the movies tonight.
Well, Joel had his first day of kinder by himself! It wasn't too good at the start, lots of tears and me having to force him into the car to take him there :(. I calmed him down and when we got there I re-introduced him to everyone and got him settled in. As soon as I said I'm leaving he became hysterical. The lovely ladies took him away to read him a story and I left with tears in my eyes (which I'd managed to hide from Joel) and listening to him crying. I felt sooo sick when I got home. After I'd been home for 10 minutes I got a call from the kinder and thought "oh no, is it that bad??", but it was just the teacher saying that he'd settled down and was now playing happily! I was soooo relieved. When I went to pick him up he was having an absolute ball and gave me a casual "hi mum"! The ladies said he was fine 5 minutes after I'd left and was the liveliest one there! (That's my typical Joel :rolleyes: ) I feel so much better about it all now. I'm sooo tired though, it was mentally very exhausting for me lol!
Mo - Love the new username! Any reason why you chose that name in particular?
Willow - Still sending sleepy vibes to your DS! How are you holding up today?
Saffi - I love your new ticker photo of Lachlan! What a cutie!! If you get professional photos done make sure you show us!
Rebecca - dont feel bad letting it all out to us.. thats what we are here for!:grouphug:
Trish - glad to hear Joel ended up having a good time
Saffi - what movie are you seeing? Our local cinema is having a mum and bubs session tomorrow of 27 dresses... I am so excited about going to the movies, I haven't been for ages!
Tahlia had a 2 hour nap this morning! I was so excited.. she never does that! I've just put her down again now, let's see how she goes! Hopefully she lasts for more than 1 cycle.
I think the weather here today is making my girls sleep. Jasmine slept the last 3.5 hours and only just woken for a feed now! Chelsea went to bed at 11 and still sleeping. Now....tell me this: Why didnt i go to bed too!!!!????
Glad Joel had a good time Trish....kids love playing with fellow kiddies...i can assure u he will love it more and more and wont be able to wait for the next day he goes. Chels knows on a Sunday and a Thursday night whats in store for the next day (FDC...loooves it)!
Rebecca-sorry your having such a tough time must be hard having no family or friends close by.
Have you tried an "Angel Wrap" on C?
Trish-Maddi, Phil & i make 3, that's how i thought of Trinity, that & i watched the Matrix last night lol.
So glad Joel had a good first day.
Kellie wonder if my local cinema still does mum n bub sessions, have fun tomorrow.
Kim do you if Fountain Gate has them?
Question, has anyone thought of entering their baby in a baby show/contest?
Aww Trish I feel for you......I feel bad every day that I take C to daycare. I hate her staying with someone else for so long even though she loves it. Plus it gives me a bit of a break - sometimes I wish they were open on the weekend.
Saffi- I would LOVE my mum to come out but she works full time and is having a hard time getting any time off. MIL can stay where she is. When C was 5 days old - she downed 3 BOTTLES of wine and then bathed my baby! Shes a drunk and I wouldnt leave her with her for any length of time!
Anyway - thanks ladies for listening to me vent and for your support - much needed!! Am off to ebay to try to make myuself feel better!! MWAH
Yep Mo...FG has mum and bub sessions!!!
February 6: 27 Dresses.
Mo - Have heard much about them and I would have no idea where to get one from! Any ideas? PM me if necessary - am willing to try anything! Will try the cot sheet tonight. BUt I was thinking that maybe she was having a growth spurt too.....but she doesnt seem to be eating more than usual - in fact is fussing over her bottle more than usual and its a struggle to get her to drink more than 100 ml at some feeds even though if I do she is hungry again in half an hour.