Babies Born October 2007 #20

happy 5 months, maddi! :confetti: the big girl of the group - the sleep machine.

mo - james is 4 months and just under 1 week.

becky - james will go to sleep unwrapped when it's hot (or when he's in the mood). he will sleep in shorter bursts tho' compared to when i spider wrap him.

someone round here woke at 4.20 for food and downright refused to go back to sleep. i tried settling for an hour but by the time he started farting, stretching and making his dolphin noises, i knew there was no point. he hears the birds and sees the light coming up and thinks it's play time. :doh:

i threaten him that i'm going to send him to the dolphinarium... :p *squeeee*

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I swear I am psychically linked to L. Usually it involves me thinking how great it is that he is asleep and then within moments he cries!

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Saffi - can't tell you how often that happens here! Drives me nuts!!

Unwrapping - too scared to try! He is still waking often at night, don't need him waking any more!!

Had a shocker last night, woke every 3 hours :wall: don't know what's going on, his nights had improved so much and now this again the last two nights. Sooooo tired. Fed at 6.30am and still asleep now. Having fantasies of feeding him a huge bowl of farex at 7.30pm and him sleeping all night!! :cryinglaugh:

Happy 5 months Maddi!!

Saffi- No DH did not take me out to dinner. He didnt end up getting home from work until 7pm. Then worked all day saturday 7-6.30 then yesterday he had to work AGAIN!! From 12 until 630. I tell you I am really over spending the whole weekend alone. I know I have Caitlyn and she keeps me occupied but there is only so much conversation you can have with a 4 month old before you start going ga ga. I know DH wants to earn some $$ so we can have a fun time back in Townsvilel in April but please......I'm LONELY!!!!!
Unwrapping- I swear I keep meaning to try to put her down unwrapped but it just doesnt happen. I know if I do....it will mean a 45-1hr nap before she is awake again. Last night was a SHOCKER!!! Down at 615 up at 1130 which wasnt too bad! But up again at 130, 330, 415 and 5! AAARRRGGGHHH Why why why on a sunday night!!!! Each time she was unwrapped, fist in mouth ga ga gaing away at herself. I managed to settle her again at 1130 and then fed her at 130 but the other times were just a nightmare. I would just get her down and get back to the bedroom and she would be awake again. Took her back to bed at 530 - still no settling. DH rolled over at 6 and asked if I wanted him to take her....what a silly question!!!! Of couse she settled for him and then slept still once he got out of bed at 630! I think I might just have to get used to getting up at 5!!
Celtic-I CANNOT believe your daycare centre. I thought mine was bad but they aint got nothing on that! So far they have never called me. I got there one afternoon and they told me that I might have to keep her home the next day but that was it and that was cause she had runny poos which I can understand completely!
Willow/Saffi-I sooooo wish that I could just have one day "off". DH told me last night that I should still be able to get housework done on a Sunday if he is not there! Ha ha ha ha! Sure! I will jsut strap C on and do everything - ignore her crying and needs! Sundays are normally DH's day off and the day he gets to spend some time with C. its also the day I get stuff done around the house! I could be doing it now I know but hey I have to go to "work" today! So last night - in the heat of the moment - I told him that if he earnt enough that I didnt HAVE to work - then maybe I would get more done around the house. Ohhhhhh bad Bec! Not in the good books now!! Really should learn to think things through!!
Oh wow - loooong post - sorry if I bored anyone! Must be the whole adult conversation thing happening!! Better go get ready for "work" Have a good day all. MWAH

Maddi has cracked the 7kg mark she weighs 7.2kg & is 65cms long with a HC of 43cm.
Nurse said she is doing wonderfully & we can start her on solids if we want.
So that makes me happy to know I'm doing a good job :)

Hope everyone who had a bad night has a better night tonight.

Happy 5 months to Maddi! Glad to hear her checkup went well Mo. When is Moomba?

Trish - Tahlia has slept in her cot for 3 nights now, the 1st two nights I had to get up a few times cause she was getting herself unwrapped and was cold, but last night I put her in a polar fleece sleeping bag (seeing its so cold in Melbourne!) and she slept right through from about 10pm till 8.30. And she wasn't even wrapped!

Willow - Tahlia stays awake between 1.5 hrs and 2 hrs between day sleeps, unless we are out somewhere when its a bit longer caus she is such a sticky beak and wants to see what is goin on.

Kim - glad you had good weekend away... hope Chelsea is feeling better

Becky - good luck with Chelseas needles

I think Tahlia is coming down with a cold, she was a little snuffly last night and this morning, and her eyes are a bit watery. She seems happy enough in herself though. This is the 1st time she has been sick, so I don't even know what I can do to help her. WHat can you give little bubs for colds? panadol?

Kellie Moomba is 7th-10th of march.
Maddi has a cold & cough i ended up buying her some dimetapp, because she couldn't sleep with her cough & her nose got blocked & she couldn't breathe through it.
Glad to say she's almost better now just has a slightly running nose during the day.

Hi everyone...

WOW...so much to catch up on!

We have been VERY busy the last few days. My mum stayed over with me from Friday night. Max has been MR talkative and has been staying awake for AGES. Not being grumpy about it though. The other night we went out for dinner and when we got home, he ZONKED out. It was fantastic! Slept through... pretty much and then went back to sleep for another 2 hours! SWEET!

Yesterday was busy again and had another late night. Max went straight to sleep again, but I kept dreaming that I was holding him, or had him in my bed so kept waking wondering what the hell was going on, and where is he, and have I rolled over him etc etc.! Very annoying...I'm pretty tired today.

I think when Max wakes I'm going to go to the new Ikea store they have built here. I hope the novelty has worn off a little bit and it's not filled with the entire Perth population!

Anyway, hope all is well. Happy 5 months to Maddi. Bah Humbug to your DC Centre Celtic that is just plain rubbish. Hugs to everyone else :)

happy 5 months Maddi

Rebecca - that sucks that DH has to work so long and thru the weekend. Will it be any better once he's finished his apprenticeship? I really have nothing to complain about as DH spends every possible hour with us but sometimes when he's here I still feel like I am working alone. Think he's got the idea now.
Kellie - sorry to hear Tahlia is unwell. I thought L was coming down with a cold too. I have heard that Fess Little Noses is good to clear up the congestion. There is also a thread in the Baby/Toddler pages that talks about panadol vs nurofen.
Becky - I don't really know how successful I am at the unwrapped sleeping. For most of the past week he has been waking up every 2 hours overnight. But then again he was working his way out of the wrap which I am certain was an issue. Agree about the dummy!
Willow - my L is also waking up every couple of hours overnight. It sucks not having uninterupted sleep.

What am I doing wrong??? L has about 3 sleeps during the day between 1 - 3 hours. We put him down for the evening at around 6/6.30pm. Either he wakes up around 9 - 10pm where I feed him and then down again. If he doesn't wake I will dreamfeed. Last night for eg he was up at 1.15am (dummy issue), 4am - didn't want to settle so fed him,and up for the day at 6am. I keep the room relatively cool so to make him as comfortable as possible.

Feeling a bit down today. Sleep deprivation will do that. Only managed 40 mins when I put him down at 8, is asleep now (10.45) so will see if I can get another hour.

Sorry for the whingey post.
BBL

saffi - i used to have a fantastic sleeper but he's pretty much doing the regular wake up thing at night too. my sis says it's just the way it is for some babies. worst case... they won't properly sleep through until 18mth - 2 years. *woo*

you're not doing anything wrong - i suppose they'll sleep through when they're ready. the frequent waking is the reason BF babies are less likely to succumb to SIDS... so you can at least take comfort in that.

(and know i'm not sleeping either) :wall:

Saffi- If DH continues to work where he is working now I cannot see the hours changing once he is finished his time. Its just that there is sooo much work on. I was a bit ticked off about yesterday though. He is on call which to me means that a truck has broken down and needs immediate attention. Not that the boss has booked in too much work and is calling his staff in. What if he had worked for those 6 hours yesterday and then got a call out at 10 last night?? Last long weekend that we had, the on call guy worked (on his own car) on the sunday and the boss came and got Wayne and asked him to do the call out! I can't imagine anyone else doing the same for him. DH needs to start standing up for himself or he is going to miss so much time with Caitlyn.
I think the whole non sleeping thing must be a 4 month old thing. I just hope that it will pass :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
Am not doing too well on 4 hours sleep a night!!!
MWAH

Afternoon all!

Had one of the worst nights ever with the two boys, Joel has come down with a cold so he was the worst culprit. Basically I got next to no sleep all night and was in tears at 4:30am because I was so over getting up and down. DH took the day off to look after us, so sweet! I have had a couple of naps when K is asleep, something I couldn't do if I was at home on my own with Joel too.

Saffi - :hug: I hear you loud and clear! I have been questioning what I am doing wrong too. I'm sure it is our bubs and not us, but you can't help but wonder. I hope you have a better night tonight and feel a bit more like yourself.

Julia - Glad Max has been behaving for you! Have fun at Ikea, we always get lost there and can't find our way out LOL!

Mo - Happy 5 months to Maddi!!! What a big girl! WTG on her awesome weight gain! Let us know how you go introducing solids.

Kellie - That's great Tahlia slept unwrapped! I hope her cold clears up soon. I used to give Joel Panadol (it cleared his nose up for some bizarre reason) and Dimetapp.

Rebecca - That must be so frustrating having your DH on call like that.

Willow - What's with these boys of ours?! We had a great night last week and I was feeling hopeful, but it has all gone down hill again. Hope tonight is better for you :hug:. Do you have any more sessions at the sleep school?

Viv - K woke at 3am and decided it was wake time until 4:30am, so I understand how you felt early this morning!

Hope you all have a great day!

Thanks guys for the supportive messages. I managed to get another 90mins sleep so am feeling a lot better now. Sounds like it could be a 4 month thing if most of us are going through the same thing. I should be grateful that at least I can sleep when he sleeps which is more than those of you who work or have other bubs can do. I really feel for you.

Rebecca - meant to say I love the photo of Caitlyn.
Trish - thats nice of DH to take the day off. I know my DH would love to do that too.

Going to make myself some lunch and feed L.

Saffi- It is a cute little photo of her isnt it! Thanks for noticing! I love it. I actually had to crop it waaaaay down cause it was huge!! She is trying to sit up by herself more and more everyday! She hates to lie down - and is quite vocal about it!
Trish-I know how you feel - but I think mine is only half as bad cause I only have the one to get up to!! Don't know how I would cope with 2!! You must be doing a fantastic job to still be sane!
I have decided that tonight I am going to put her down unwrapped and thats it! I have no doubt though that I will cave after no sleep and wrap her but I have to give it a go dont i?? I think maybe part of my problem is putting her down too early. But every time I think about getting her up again at 9 or 10 I end up in bed. I am going to put on a pot of coffee and do my best to keep up tonight. I am lucky in that DH took her for a while this morning while I lay on the couch and had a big cry. DH is such a heavy sleeper that he doesnt hear me get up in the night and so doesnt realise how little sleep I am getting. Trish - I too had a big cry on the couch this morning - its just soooo tiring having the broken sleep. Like I said to DH if it was 4 hours straight that would be good but its an hour here half an hour there.
I have a friend who is 21 weeks pg at the moment and her DP is hundreds and hundreds of KM's away with the Army and hasnt seen her since she was early pg. She is not dealing too well (Neither is he!!) and is getting no support from the Army whatsoever. Am doing my best to support/help her. Its hard for her and I wish I could be there for her!!

Saffi - So glad you have snuck a nap in, it makes all the difference doesn't it?

Rebecca - I forgot to mention how cute your photo of Caitlyn is! I noticed it earlier and admired it, but in my sleep-deprived state forgot to say something!

We did some retail therapy earlier and went to the Kmart 25% of kids clothing sale. Got some cute Bonds stuff for K & Joel and a couple of other bits and pieces. DH gets Coles Myer gift cards every Christmas from his work so we used some of them on today's shopping spree. Hooray for free stuff!

Hi all,
Hope you are all having a great day. We are not. Ethan is driving me around the bend. He slept well last night. He only woke once and all he needed was his dummy. Today his sleeps have been all over the shop. He is only sleeping for 1.5 hrs max and not resettling. He is whinging every time I leave the room which is driving me crazy. I think it is because I am so tired. Not sure why as Ethan has been good the last 2 nights.

Saffi - hope you are feeling a bit better soon. I know how you feed. I made a tearful phone call to dh at work today because Ethan would not stop crying.

Unwrapping - we have started the process of unwrapping. Tonight will be the fourth night when we leave one of Ethan's arms out. Tomorrow we will take both arms out for a few days and then it's gone. Yey!!!!

Alz- Thats what I thought I might do - just try one arm out at a time for a few days and then go on to both out.
Did you find him waking ALOT during the night?? I have just had enough of getting up and rewrapping and then getting up 2 hours later and doing the same thing. I curse the day MIL suggested a dummy!!!
Trish- How nice!! I love retail therapy. I have to do the ebay thing for that. Or do grocery shopping. Yay! ha ha ha My MIL gets coles myer or the woolworths equivalent vouchers all through the year for reaching sales targets -they all go to SIL though. DH doesnt even get a look in. Its sad really. SIL gets whatever she likes and DH has to beg - so he just doesnt now! And then everyone keeps saying "when are you coming to visit?" Well hello....when are you coming to visit us?? We have a baby in tow surely it would be easier for you. Anyway -enough of my gripe!
15 mins till home time. Fried rice for din dins tonight. Don't know how healthy that is (am aiming to lose 15 kg seeing as my BMI says I am obese!).

Hi all

Well chels was fine with her needles. Cried out for about 10 seconds, and then went back to happily eating her hand. Havent had any reactions or anything so far. I have been really lucky. Neither of my kids have ever had reactions to needles.

alz - Good luck with the unwrapping thingo! I hope ya day gets better too!

Rebecca - Good luck to you with the unwrapping too! Stick it out!

Trish - Yay for sales!!

Mo - Happy 5 months Maddi! Glad to hear she is growing nicely!!

Saffi - Hope ya feel better soon too and get some more sleep!

BBL

Oh dear, I think we need a group hug :grouphug:

I know how you are all feeling, I'm feeling the same. We've been out all day at a friends place. L slept till 9.30am so that was good, tried to put him down at my friend's place (she has a cot set up in the spare room) and he wouldn't go down. So fed him and tried again an hour later and he slept for about 2+ hours (wasn't watching the time) so I was really stoked. Then we got home and he wouldn't have a sleep this afternoon so I'm feeling like carp again. this is the 3rd time in about 2 weeks I haven't been able to get him to have his last sleep and I'm not liking it! And the other problem we're having is getting him to settle when we put him down for the night. Is taking aaaaages for him to settle and does my head in when I know he can do it perfectly well every other time.

I'm hearing you all on this wrapping/unwrapping/dummy/no dummy/sleep deprivation/are they ever going to sleep through the night business!!

I wonder if it's possible to actually lose your mind from sleep deprivation?? I think I might find out soon enough :cryinglaugh:

Trish - we live in parallel worlds. Also having trouble with DD waking at night. Have NO idea WTH is going on with her but it does my head in when they're both awake at the same time and DH is snoring away in bed :angry: It's like you're really being tested but wait! there's more!