Babies Born September 1st - 15th 2008

Hi Ladies,

How are we all? Its amazing how much less we all seem to be able to get on BB now we have babies! Emily is asleep in the peanut shell so I'd thought id jump on while I have 2 hands free.
We are going along ok. I'm feeling less anxious now I've resided myself to the fact i will be a full time pumper for as long as I can and give her feeds from me when we can. It seems to be working, when the nurse came on Monday Emily had put on 300g in the 10 days previously. She has now grown nearly 5 cm too.
I don't really mind the pumping, I've even had a few 300ml pumps! Next time round hopefully it will work out better.

Kerry- I hope your supply picks up, motillium worked wonders for me. You are doing a great job! He's growing so well!

Niamh- my tummy is saggy too and full of stretch marks! They only appeared right at the end. It really gets me down. Esp having to buy bigger clothes. I prob had 20kg to lose before I fell pg and have another 10 now, so am feeling really huge.

Kell- I hope you get a solution to the reflux, its so nasty.

M2- we aren't co-sleeping but Em is in our room, and when DH leaves for work in the morning I do put her in her snuggle bed in our bed with me.

Hello to everyone else.

Eej, 300ml pumps!!!!! I haven't ever got more than 120ml. :o About to try another pumping session but doubting I'll get much. Matthew has been on the (.)(.) almost all day with just catnaps in between. I'm exhausted. But he's been asleep now for three hours so I'll get expressing while the going's good.

Wishing I had a rocker and a snugglebed. Will look at getting these next time I'm in Griffith or Wagga Wagga.

Pam, how's your weight loss going? I've lost 12kg but will need to lose another 10 or so before I'm back where I started. I'm still looking a few months pregnant and finding I'm most comfortable in my maternity clothes. On the upside, I can fit into more of my maternity clothes than I could when I was truly huge with Matthew towards the end of the pregnancy. :p

Is it 6 weeks before we can start exercising, if you've had a c-s?? What I've read suggests that's when to start. The early childhood nurse also told me to be careful not to stretch, reach forward or lift at the moment, even if it doesn't hurt, because of the risk of adhesions. My mother was saying that in China, after the babies are born, no visitors are allowed for the first four weeks and the mums are kept confined to the house...

I am just stopping in for a quick post while Molly is sleeping.

Today we went to the local shopping centre to have a look around and it was the first time I had been there since before Molly was born. I hadn't realised how trapped in the house I felt until we went there. KWIM? Even though I am not meant to be driving I have been bad. My IL's went home last weekend and I have had to drive myself to doctors appointments otherwise I can't get there. We are still having issues with thrush and my c/s scar and it is starting to get me down.

Molly also had to get a bump on her tailbone checked out. We had that xrayed on Thursday and all seems to be ok.

Breastfeeding... where to start with that. We have been plodding along with it and are having some attachment issues. Sometimes we attach properly but other times no. I have left a message with a LC to make an appointment. My nipples are sore but sometime I am not sure if its attachment or the thrush. It hurts when she initially attaches but then I dont feel her.. does that make sense?
For the last few days I have noticed that around feed times that one breast seems to be fuller than the other. Today it feels sore too so I am hoping that I am not developing any issues with it. What do you think? Does anyone else have issues with leaking? Coincidentally the side that is sore today leaks like a tap.

The local mothers group starts here on Wednesday and I said I would go. I am a little nervous about going.

Sorry I haven't had time again for personals. I do read all that you post even if I don't get time to comment.

Hello everyone

Stopping in for a quick chat. Things have been so crazy. DD1 has been causing problems with her temper tantrums so now I stressed out as well as tired. Oh what fun 3 yo can be!!

Donna, I definately have issues with leaking from one side. I think for me it is because Ashlyn feeds better from one side so it produces more milk. Don't worry though, they wont leak forever. Sometimes I get the sore nipples, but it is only sore on the first couple of sucks then it feels fine so I'm not worried about it.

Kerry, I'm pretty sure you need to wait for the six week check up before to much exercise. I've just been doing some walking to get myself started and that seems to be enough to wear me out.

Oh it seems I'm going to have to cut my message short, Ashlyn has started to wake up again. I think its going to be another long night. Be back later.

Captain - Thanks for the reassurance. There is hope :)

Kerry - I am waiting for my 6 week check up too. I was lucky and I actually weigh about 8kgs less than I did at the start of my pregnancy but feeling very motivated to loose more.

Molly has developed this wonderful habit.. she hates having her arms wrapped and will wake herself up trying to get them out but if I don't wrap them she wakes herself up with her startle reflex. :lol: what can you do?

Hi All.

A quick one from me......the Zantac seems to be doing some good. She's almost a different baby! Still has a scream at night and thats when it gets stressful - thank god for DF! But, I am able to put her down during the day for a little bit and she quite happily looks around or at her toys and listens to music! Yay!
The Dr didn't give me a script for Zantac as she thought I didn't need it! She also suggested to stop mylanta. So, I was naughty and went to work and now have some Zantac syrup and guess what? Seven is getting better by the day.

Anyhoo, better run, things to do. I also think I am coming down with a throat infection. Throat is SO sore! :(

Love & Hugs

Sorry for lack of personals, although I did read everyones posts!

Starting to feel a bit depressed about my breastmilk supply not increasing yet. I've been feeding, feeding, feeding, as well as expressing and taking Motilium but only got 60ml when I expressed tonight. I was really thinking I'd have milk sloshing around by now but not even leaking and breasts feel soft. Not sure whether it's still because of the hemorrhage I had after the emergency c-s or being over 40 (an ABC news article I read said that beginning after age 35, the milk-producing glands gradually decrease in number and are replaced by fatty tissue). :( Stressing about it isn't helping either, I know.

Sorry to hijack ladies, but just wanted to give a :hug: to Kerry. I had a really tough time at the start too, on Motillium, pumping etc, but have you tried Fenugreek? I had great success with that. GL hun.

PS - you will usually have less to pump at night rather than in the morning....so 60ml is very good!

SG
xo

In relation to milk supply and expressing, i have had to start to express to increase, i jsut have a feeling its getting low. Is it normal that pumping friggen HURTS!!!! also, i only got like 30ml out of both boobies. I expressed immediately after a feed last night. I am worried about doing it before in case Nathan wants a feed and there is nothing there :( i wont use a bottle or a dummy so i want to make sure there is plenty for him. Any ideas?
Shoegal - where do you get that from?

I really really need to change my ticker. i just dont have time

Mummy - you poor thing, no, expressing should not hurt. Is the nozzle attachment the right size for your nipple? 30ml is good for immediately after a feed, and at night too. If your baby feeds say 2 hourly, wait for 1 hour after you have fed (from the beginning of the feed), then express, you'll get far more. Plus, empty boobies make more milk than full ones so you will still have enough to feed him. But remember that a suckling baby will make more milk than a pump too. Is he having plenty of wet and dirty nappies? And good weight gains?

PS - you can buy Fenugreek at your chemist, I bought the Nature's Own brand. You really need to smell like maple syrup when you take it, I took up to 6 a day.

PPS - I'm no LC! I just had a really tough time with my own son in the beginning, low weight gains, UTI, etc, and just want to pass on anything I learned when I was a new mummy. My LC was my new BFF!

SG
xo

Hi Ladies,
Sorry, again no personals from me. I am just so exhausted.

Had a REALLY tough time with Seven yesterday afternoon and into the night. And to top that all off I am sick with a cold & sore throat.
Seven cried & screamed on and off from 7 til midnight last night. I was beside myself and even rang DF in tears and asked him to come home from a BBQ he was at! He hasn't seen this friend in 6 months!
Seven slept for 15 minutes in the car when I drove to pick up pizza but woke up the minute she got back inside.
DF was upset too because he couldn't settle her and eventually I had to take her into bed with me and feed her to sleep - that took an hour - an DF slept on the couch.
I have read everyones posts, Kerry ~ I normally would be able to think of somethng and answer your questions re milk production but my head is not where it should be.....so, I will have to come back. But chin up - you are an amazing Mummy and nothing you do or don't do is going to change that. Please don't stress yourself out about not being a milk machine - not every woman is. You are you and thats why everyone loves you, especially your darling little Matthew. He won't care that you never leaked, or produced copious amounts of milk. All he cares about is that you love him.

I hope you have a better day today, better run, Seven is crying - again.

L&H

Hi Ladies,

Haven't had a chance to get in here lately. Madeleine had her maternal health appt last week & she has stacked on the weight she's gained 700gms in 2 weeks & she's up to 10pd's (from 7pd 12) she is drinking anywhere from 120ml 3 hourly or 200ml over a 1 1/2 hour feed.

We had the breastfeeding clinic again, still no luck. This time she refused to suck so I'm inclined to think that she will never get off the bottle. I've made a commitment to express until 8 weeks should we not be able to get her on, but after that I don't think I can cope with the 3 hour expressing around the clock. The motilium has helped my supply which is great I still need it to increase more as I'm having to suppliment with formula, kbowman are you taking 2 tablets 3 times a day? I know when I was only on the 1 tablet my supply didn't increase at all.

Madeleine still has trush, i've finished my medication but I don't think it's helped at all, I don't know what to try next. Her tongue is still so thick & she hates the oral gel & drops. Wish there was something more natural to give her.

Calebsmum, sorry to hear Seven is keeping you up. I'm sure its going to get easier with the sleep soon.

Sorry for lack of personals, bub is calling

Candy-jay - :hug: on the thrush situation. We just can't seem to shake it here either. I don't have any advice but I just wanted you to know your not alone there. :hug:

Kel - sorry to hear that Seven was so unsettled for you last night :hug: Hoping tonight is a better night for you.

Molly had her health nurse visit this morning and has packed on a whopping 820grams in the 2 weeks since our last visit. She has continued marking her territory where ever we go by weeing on the scales there. Last week she wee'd on the xray bed. Soon she will have the whole town covered in her scent :lol: The nurse has given more advice on the thrush and generally made me feel better about it all and BF. Molly has started to smile... well to Cody and the nurse but not me. :( and she is nearly grown out of the newborn nappies.

Molly had a very unsettled night last night. So much so that we went to sleep in the spare room. Sleep.. yeah well she was awake from 1am - 5am before she conked out. Hope tonight is a little better.

Hi ladies,

Kerry - Im no help to you - as sadly my milk supply never increased. BF my first 2 without problems for 12 months, but this time around - no amount of bub sucking, pumping, and maxalon helped at all. Slowly, bub is now fully FF - I'm really sad about this, but bub needs to eat, and there are some upsides - my dh is enjoying being involved, as is other family members - so it's nice to share the feeding pleasure. I would have been happy to express 60mls, thats reasonable, hang in there - I was told expressing is a really bad indicator of what's available anyway. If Mathew is gaining weight, you're doing okay!

Lee xo

hey, i know im not technically in the date range for this group but i know people here! lol. shayla was born on the 18th, but i was due on the 13th...

i sympathise with the bf issues because i had some myself. after the long labor and then emergency c/s, my milk wasnt coming in and i had to comp with 20ml formula. i was taking motillion to increase supply but after 2 weeks the nurses and doc realised it wasnt working. i was feeding for 1-2 hours, then trying to express for half an hour, then id simply be feeding again.

i wasnt getting any sleep, and my milk production wasnt changing. i now have a fairly happy ff baby, i can have df up for night feeds, which is wonderful!

only problem i have is that half the time we feed shayla and she screams and wont take the bottle. we know she's hungry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference. can be really frustrating... and she doesnt seem to do it out in public. 2 days in a row we went out visiting friends and shopping, and she was perfect. except that she wanted daddy to carry her, she didnt want to be pushed in the pram.

well i hope everyone is well! good luck with B/F to all that are continuing with it!!!

Hi Ladies

Another quick one from me as Ashlyn is about to wake up. We going to the Chiro today cause my back has been so sore.

Kerry:hug:, it can be so stressful when bf isn't working. The only suggestion I can make is sleep. How much are you getting? When I had supply issues with Danielle it was mostly because I wasn't getting any sleep. Well, it was maybe 3 hours a day. I ended up buying a single sachet of formula and giving it to her. I then went to bed and slept, when I woke up I had a bit more milk than before and she was able to take a full feed. Things improved a bit from there.

Donna, Ashlyn is the same, she loves to wee without her nappy on and I've had to change clothes several times from the explosive poos she does all over me!!!!

Kell, :hug:. Poor you and Seven. It's so hard when they can't sleep. Hope your cold gets better soon.

Sorry it seems I haven't anymore time for personals. Sleeping beauty is waking and Danielle wants her morning tea. It's amazing how much less time I have these days, lol.

Hope your all doing well

just quickly popping in, we just got back from the doctors and Madeleine has reflux, she was so unsettled screaming all night & bringing up the milk, so we have been prescribed Zantac... I hope it works for her poor thing thrush & reflux.

Indie, I've finished my medication but I think I still have it due to the pain. I spoke to my doctor today & he said the capsules don't work for most ppl but there is a drug out there at a cost of around $200 -$300 which would clear it up, unfortunately can't afford that at the moment. I'm thinking of starting to try natural with yakult, yoghurt & maybe some of those capsules you can buy from the chemist, I know when I was PG natural was the only way for me.

I agree with Captain, without sleep my body doesn't seem to produce very much milk & I was having to drink 3 lt of water in the beginning to get any.

hope everyone is well.

Thanks for the encouragement and suggestions re: milk supply :) I've started drinking Aktavite and raspberry leaf tea and I'm still taking the Motilium (2 tabs, three times a day). Today I only expressed three times, once first thing in the morning, after lunch and this evening. All up about 300ml. The rest of my milk, Matthew has been getting. He is a hungry fellow! Which is why I've been doubting that my milk has come in. There never seems to be enough. Will persevere a little longer and will see how Matthew is at his next weigh in on Friday.

Today we went for a drive and I took him for a walk in his Maclaren Vogue stroller. The fresh air was good.

CandyJay, hope the Zantac does the trick for Madeleine and that tonight is better for you all. :crossfingers:

Captain, I haven't been getting enough sleep - that may be playing a big role too. Will try to do better!

Tazzy, sounds like you had a rough start with bf too. Hope the ff settles down for you - I'm thinking I'll end up heading down that track soon myself if Matthew's weight gains don't continue.

Lee, thanks for the encouragement. I've been really keen to keep trying because at the moment and for the next few months at least, it's just me doing the feeding. Night times will be much easier if I can keep bf.

Shoegal, thanks for popping in and for the reassurance! Will hunt out the fenugreek next time I'm in Griffith. :)

Mummatotwo, pumping shouldn't hurt - is there some way of turning down the pressure? Sounds like Nathan's doing a good job of sucking up your milk. I made the same mistake of expressing straight after a feed instead of waiting an hour or so. I just want to stay ahead of Matthew with EBM in the fridge ready to go when necessary.

Big hugs, Kell, what an awful night for both of you. Hope it's getting better!

Will be back on a bit later - need to share the computer with my Mum (here helping until the end of October). :)

Hi Ladies

CandyJay ~ I hope the Zantac works for Madeleine - I know it's working for Seven!

Well, as I said above, I think the Zantac is working! Last night was the first night in a week that Seven hasn't screamed and screamed before going to sleep. She still didn't get off to sleep for good until 12.30am, but, she was settled in that time and I just wore her in her sling for a bit while I watched TV. MUCH easier to cope with. She woke up a couple of times because her reflux made her vomit but, it was about a 5 min session to get her back off to sleep instead of a 5hr one!
So sorry about the "me" post, but I am just so relieved that I wasn't in tears last night! My cold is getting worse and now I have a cold sore, I think I am a bit run down!

Anyhoo, here's hoping Seven continues with her easy settling at night!

Hope you are all well.

That's wonderful, Kell! Now, to get rid of the cold and get you fighting fit again. Sending you good health vibes x x

hi everyone,

well its taken me a while to get a chance to post. I got a bit depressed after Liberty was born as I found out my close friend of 17 years who was pregnant same time as me (due 2 weeks after me) had lost her baby the week before Liberty was born when she was 36 weeks and 5 days pregnant from severe placenta abruption. She didn't tell me as she didn't want to upset me before I had the baby or so soon after the birth but i found out after the birth through the grapevine. Hard news to take when you have the baby blues - you wonder why you were so lucky to have your baby and why she doesn't have hers anymore...you just can't make sense of such a tragedy. I've seen photos of him since and so that's helped, as it made it more real as I didn't want to believe it (can't imagine how she must feel). She's come over a few times, one time coming over and holding Liberty for 5 hours or so (stopping so I could feed her though) - lucky she was a sleepy bubba that day. I've told her she can just hold Liberty and cry if that helps her. It's been so hard knowing what to say. She has days where she wants to see the baby and days where understandably she only wants to see me.

And I can sooooo sympathise with mums of reflux babies. After a 6 hour non-stop screaming we ended up back at hospital. We were told it was just too much sugar in my breastmilk but then at her check up we found out she had reflux (we wrote out a list of symptoms for the dr). Do your babies get loads of hiccups?? Did they have it when they were in your tummy too?? Now she's on medicine for it and now we know how to help her its been a lot better.

and wow all your babies are putting on the weight. Liberty only put on 200g when she was nearly 4 weeks old?? I've gone back to demand feeding her rather than routine feeding her to try and help her fatty up. She was on 7-8 feeds with a routine and with demand feeding she has 10-11!! She is a lot more settled though with demand feeding (and some co-sleeping, baby-wearing, Infants Friend, Zantac all helps with settling and coping with a reflux bubby ) Our saving grace for our sanity has been staying with my parents and also that she sleeps pretty well at night.

ok well this is going to become a "me" post as she's just starting to wake up for a feed.

hope all is well with you and your bubbies let you have a bit more sleep tonight!!

Lol ~ I am so sorry to hear of your friends loss. It is always heartbreaking when someone loses something so precious and treasured as a child. I hope your friend will eventually take comfort in the fact that her baby is happy and safe and cared for where he is, almost as much as if he were in her arms. Oh no, now I'm crying! Darn hormones. I hear ya on the reflux, so glad that you have some Zantac for her, I just can't understand why I had to fight the dr for some then had to go elsewhere to get it because she wouldn't give me a script! Good on you for going back to feeding Liberty the way you think is right for her. Hope the weight gains pick up, although 200g is nothing to sneeze at, its a start! How much did she weigh at birth?

Seven had another great start to the night! Yahoo! I thought it was going to be messy, but she settled easy again, in my arms, on the boob, or in the sling and we were asleep by 12.15 this time! So if we take off 15mins each night it shan't be so bad!
As for me, I am off to the Dr this afternoon as my 'cold' or whatever the heck it is, is getting worse, I have a cold sore and I am so run down. I better get over it before my Wedding in 5 weeks!!! EEK!

Anyhoo, hope you are well and adoring those special treasures we have all brought into the world. I wish I was in some of your States so I could come visit!!!! :(

Love & Hugs

thanks for letting me vent and have a "me" post - it was just hard with so much happening, forgot to mention that hubby found out his work was closing after getting into financial difficulty so he's losing his job. so it was just everything.

calebsmum - Liberty was 3.165kg (6 pound 15) at birth and 51cm. I've found Zantac fantastic in reducing the crying but not in reducing the vomiting, she has her grumpy moments but more like a "normal" baby, rather than non-stop unsettledness. Suprising that your dr wouldn't prescribe you it because the longer you leave reflux untreated the more damage it does. I've heard that it takes between 2-4 weeks to fully work. Glad to hear its helping Seven - do you find she's getting constipated from it? And wow you are brave getting married so soon after having a baby!!

kbowman - i had trouble with my milk too but only during week 2 as i'd had bad attachment when she was first born and she'd torn my nipples to shreds and it hurt so much i couldn't really relax. i could only express 30ml and it was only foremilk. it was so frustrating and upsetting but in the end it just sorted itself out. i hope it does for you too. Don't get too discouraged though if it doesn't, in the end all that matters is that the bubby is putting on weight and is healthy.

CandyJay - hope the zantac works for you!! the first day we gave it to Liberty she slept so much, it was amazing. we give her infants friend too after she spews as it has mylanta in it and so it reduces the burn (and it also acts to stop constipation which zantac is known for)

better go, she's stirring!!

Lol ~ Yeah we knew we wanted a baby before the wedding, but I am cutting it fine aren't I? I ordered my gown on December 1st 2007 and found out we were pregnant on December 24th 2007! LOL. It fits though, I tried it on recently!

As for the zantac - it won't actually stop your baby vomiting, because it is not designed for that. What it does is reduce the amount of acid in the contents of baby's stomach so it doesn't burn. If Liberty is vomiting a LOT then you can get Gaviscon to give her after a feed, but we use it at work and I have not found it particularly helpful. The Dr prescribed this for Seven as well but I have not bought any as she doesn't vomit heaps and I can deal witht he amount that she does.
I haven't found that it is making Seven constipated though. Seven is going every 4 days or so and when she does, boy do you know about it!
We were out at my mums last night for my Birthday dinner when Seven exploded and she ended up having an impromptu bath in the Laundry Tub! LOLOL!

I hope you get some relief!

Lol, sorry to hear about your friend's baby. I'm sure it would have been very difficult for you both with the arrival of Liberty. Hopefully she can find some comfort from you both. The baby blues is one of the hardest things to deal with, I had it with my 1st after, I hope you are feeling better given all the terrible things you have happen lately.

In terms of the Zantac, Madeleine slept for 6 hours after her first dose, unfortunately that hasn't continued. She seems a lot happier & it's so much easier to settle her to sleep.Thanks Lol for the advice re: infants friend, I'll give that a go as she seems to keep spewing after every feed & i'm slightly worried as I think she's over eating 140ml 3-4hourly. Madeleine had hiccups every day when I was PG & she gets them after almost every feed.

Calebsmum, wow a wedding in a few weeks & you fit your wedding dress, that's amazing. What a year your having & how wonderful Seven will be present for it.

Hi All,

Yes, Candy, I am so excited about our wedding, I just need to find something for Seven to wear!
Also, if the Infants Friend does not work for you in the way of helping Madeleine with her vomiting, you can try another all natural product. Its Brauers Stomach Calm and I find that when Seven is having a particularly 'bad tummy' day, I give her this and it settles her tummy and she doesn't throw up as much. Just another non-medication idea for you!

Hope all is going well with everyone!

Love & Hugs

Lol, that's so sad about your friend. I was in tears after reading what you'd written. It must be incredibly hard for the both of you. And then your DH losing his job on top. How long does he have? Will he be able to find something else easily? :( Big hugs.

Kell, how did you go at the doctor's? Hope you're feeling better soon. Wow at only five weeks to go until your wedding!! I couldn't organise my way out of a paper bag at the moment, so I'm full of admiration for you!

Candy Jay, I feel like I'm never going to keep Matthew satisfied either. He's also weighing just over 10 pounds now, having put on another 380 grams (although was weighed dressed in singlet and nappy this time) in the past week. We had a very unsettled night last night, just couldn't get him to sleep in his bassinet so I spent the night dozing while sitting up in bed, in between breastfeeds. The only way he seems to sleep for any longer is if I give him a bottle of at least 100ml expressed milk. Keeping up is so hard.

Going to try to catch up some sleep now. Hope everyone is getting some rest time too.

Hi everyone,

I have sat down so many times to post, but just never get to finish, I have so much to catch up on!!

Lol, sorry to hear that things haven't been going the best. I'm sorry to hear about your friend, such a tragedy. I hope your DH is able to find new work quickly. :hug:

Kel, so close to your wedding!! It will be so great having Seven at your wedding, and what better reason to buy her a gorgeous outfit. Hope your feeling better.

Kerry, your doing such a great job bf and expressing. It's not easy, but worth it in the end. Hope you were able to get some extra sleep today. I would love to be getting some rest time but it's pretty impossible with a 3 year old, enjoy the rest while you can :lol:.

CJ, glad the Zantec is helping Madeliene be a bit more comfortable. Ashlyn gets the hiccups too, usually when it's time for bed so it takes longer to settle her :rolleyes:.

Things are going pretty well here. Ashlyn still wakes every 3 hours at night for a feed, but I can't complain cause she's usually pretty easy to settle afterwards. Though I would love to get more than 2 hours sleep in a row!! I haven't had Ashlyn weighed for a couple of weeks, but she seems to be growing heaps. All the 0000 clothes have been packed away and some of the 000 clothes seem to be getting a bit tight, though I don't think the cloth nappies are helping.

Bye for now, hopefully it wont be too long before I'm back :D

I'm finding that breastfeeding Matthew equals feed, burp, feed, change, feed, burp, in a never ending cycle. A bottle of EBM however means feed, burp, change, comfort, sleep for 4-5hours. Tonight I woke him because I was worried about how long he had slept. Am I mad? :rolleyes:

as i am typing this i am going to change my ticker lol....

Kerry is this your first bub? I used to do that with B, from abotu 4 weeks he slept through the night (he was FF - dont know if that has anything to do with it) and i used to "accidentally" wake him up at first just to make sure he was ok lol.

Nath is only waking 2-3 times max a night now, for a really quick feed then back to sleep with me. He seems to be doing really well, i had him weighed a couple of weeks ago.. i think maybe 4 week mark - and he was 4.820 kilos, is that good? he was born 3.745 so he has put on over a kilo in a month.

Hi Ladies,

Just a quick post to say hi and I hope everyone is doing well. Not much to report here, just plodding along. We have the clinic tomorrow so we'll see how Emily has been going.

Take Care

Hi girls, why oh why do I feel guilty jumping on here, maybe becuase DD16 is rocking baby and thinks I am doing important things!!!!! Anyway have to check in with you girls, sorry have'nt had time to catch up on all the news but have read some......

I am definately not much help on the BF front, we are comping more and more each day... but in saying that I have always had problems with low supply , even straved my first babe????? Insisted on BF soley until 8 weeks, until she started to lose weight then had no choice... Someone mentioned to me the other day that I was "older" and that most likely was the problem???? Also the maternal health nurse said that Poppy has a high palette and it would contribute to supply issues because not enough nipple in her mouth. eej never in a million years could I dream of a 300ml pump about 50 was my max although they say that just because you don't get much from a pump does'nt mean that your baby only gets that much, they are heaps more effiencent at draining the breast, I mean there is only so much attatchment you can have with a pump????:lol:

Kerry I have been driving since 2 weeks sshhhh!!! don't tell I have felt so good this time around a went for a walk around our block which includes a good hill, very slowly I might add.... definaely won't be doing too much until after the 6 week check up, last time I waited 3 months before i got into really serious exercise eg: wood splitting, horse riding etc. I have lost 12 kgs as well have 2 more to go beofre back to pre-pregnancy and 10 to go to be where I should be:o but I have to lose more before summer really hits otherwise I am going to have chaffed inner thighs I can feel it already (sorry gross I know)

Mumma wait till Nath has had his feed then express, they say it only takes 10 minutes till the breast is rwady to go again.

Hi to the rest of you girls I am definately thinking of you all and will try to get on here again in the morning.:dance:

Hey girls, I have found you.... I stumbled across this thread the other day.. I had been wondering where you all were and how you were going :clap:

Sorry I can't manage personals, but just a quickie on how we are. Arabella was doing just perfect until just over a week ago when she starting just screaming one afternoon and throwing up something severe. I hadn't really heard her cry since she was born so it was a bit of a shock to hear her. I took her to the dr's and he told me to get up to the hospital with her asap as she was still way too jaundiced for her age. We are home with Losec for her "reflux" and she has settled back down heaps now.
She pretty much only gets up once at night and has a quick feed and goes back to sleep. We are co sleeping still, was just so much easier after the cs and the second op for my wound infection.
I am umming and ahhing so much over getting immunisations. I know that I should and it's such a touchy topic, but after hearing so many awful stories from immunisations I am just so scared. DF is so adamant that it has to be done, :rolleyes:, so I prolly won't have a say.
Is anyone else finding it hard to get any housework done, or even cook a meal? Even though Arabella is pretty good, I just can't get anything done. Being practically a single parent doesn't help, meaning I am lumped with all the housework, the yard, the groceries, paying bills and then looking after all the kids. Even though I get a decent sleep at night I get so tired and grumpy just looking at all there is to be done.
Well, enough of me crappin on. So good to read how you all are. Off to bed now after doing 5 loads of damned washing.

Hey Sue & All You Lovelies!

Sue, I hear you on so many of the things you just said!
I don't want to get Seven immunised just yet, instead I want to wait until she is 2yrs old and then give her a 'revised' immunisation schedule, and only 1 at a time etc etc. DF here is adamant as well that she be immunised, so we will see what happens.
We were up until 2.15am last night with Seven, she was wide awake and nothing we were doing was getting her off to sleep! Her reflux issues have improved with Zantac but she just has this terrible habit of waking up around 11pm and staying that way!
I have tried to keep her awake more during the day, but, being only 8 weeks old, if Seven needs to sleep she needs to sleep, and she gets so upset if I don't let her!
Seven is also still co-sleeping and DF wants her in her bassinet. He seems to think that she and I will sleep better if she is in her own bed! I disagree however. Seven still feeds about 3-4 times a night and atm all we do is roll over, feed and go back to sleep.
I know I won't sleep better if she is in her bassinet and I know for a fact that she won't sleep for more than about 30 mins at a time if she is in there. I am kind of feeling a bit pressured by him to put her in her bassinet and let her 'cry it out' but I can't do that. So it's kind of upsetting me.
I am supposed to be doing housework today, to get organised for the Wedding, and guests and simultaneously trying to keep Seven awake. I just don't have the energy. All I want to do is go back to bed!

I think Im a little stressed and exhausted atm so I will go.

So sorry for the "me" post.

I hope everyone is well and your babies are behaving!

Love & Hugs

Hi girls,
Sue glad you found us I wondered where you were??? I worry about immunisation as well, but after talking to the docs and her saying definately go ahead I think we will... as she said we have all these people coming from 3rd world contries and when they get here they jump at the chance to get them done, they see first hand the damage done from a lot of these diseases. I also think I had the other kids done with no side effects, and just hope Poppy will be the same.:pray: It is such an effort to get on here, we go out most morning with th kids activities, then by the afternoon I crash and burn, I think the key is planning the meals, washing gets put on every morning and evening, big DD helps occasionly with folding off the clothes horse:rolleyes: housework has gone to the pack a bit but oh well!!!! To both you and Kell we have co-slept with all the kids and started to with Poppy until I seen the report on sids the other night, now the cot is beside our bed (touching in actual fact) we start together then she gets moved to the cot in her Tetra bed and moved back when need be, when she is old enough to make her own way into our bed she can come and go as she wishes.

Poppy is going to bed somewhere between 9-10.30pm wakes between 2-3.30am then anywhere from 6-9am so we are doing really well in that dept......

Kerry, do what you have got to do as far a BF and bottle, if it means you get more rest give Matthew a comp when it gets to much, says she who still feels guilty every time!!!!!:wall: I was reading the other day about a girl who had gone through IVF to concieve and she was saying how cheated she felt about not concieveing naturally, I thought to myself, how we all feel like we have missed something at some point, for me it is being unsuccessful at BF, feeling a failure that I could'nt birth my baby myself and so on and onnnn and ooonnnnnn......

Anyway, will catch up later..... off to see what some other buddies are doing while I have the chance!!!!!:D

Kell - Mmm, DF is pressuring me to put Bella in her cot - she hasn't slept in it once yet. The stupid thing is, DF works nights so is never there, dunno why he has the beef with it. For me, the reflux vomitting scares me cause Bella sometimes really chokes while she is asleep so I want her there. She does have a tetra bed in my bed and then we have a sleep and cuddle for the 5am feed. Regarding the imm's, my DD had an awful reaction to her first one and ended so ill, I never got the rest of hers. :rolleyes: dunno what I will do in this situation. Wow, you will be married soon. Hope all the prep is going well, can't wait to see yr pic's.

Pam - Oh my DD13 and DS14 are just heaven sent. DS always tells me to go have a swim or a relaxing bath while he looks after her. I just feel so bad that I am relying too much on them for help. I am going to try and get my mum round so that I can cook up some meals to freeze ( should have done this before bubs but the move stuffed me around ), or even buy frozen meals for crazy days. Washing, aaaggghh, where do I start, the kids go through so many sets of clothes and use a new towel with each swim and shower so I will have to kick their butts and get them to be more reasonable.

Oooh what a morning. I have been trying to get DS to catch the bus to and from school so that I don't have to wake Arabella up. Nope, he's too fringgin lazy. This morning on the way home from dropping him off A screamed so much I couldn't stand it and ther was no where for me to stop and calm her. The mum bus ends here now, he can catch the bus now.
I'm not sure what's happening but my bra's are giving me mastitis. They are properly fitted one's but it just canes to wear them and I end up getting lumps under the nipple or along the top of the band wher the bra is - make sense. I was in agony last night getting A to suck while I massaged. I haven't really had any other probs with the feeding than that.
Betta run and have a quick bite to eat. xx

Hi ladies

I think I'm joining the group of exhausted mums. Ashlyn goes to bed at about 7.30 and then wakes at 10.30, 1am and 4am at which point she stays unsettled until I give up and start our day at 6am. Not helped having to get up for Danielle cause she's had a bad dream or dropped her teddy bear. I'm so tired that I'm starting to get really flaky and can't concentrate on anything. DH had to go to work yesterday and I hadn't washed or ironed any of his clothes:(. The hardest thing is I can't tell DH I'm struggling a bit because I really want a 3rd child (I know, strange time to be thinking about that) and he's not sure so I don't want him to be put off by a grumpy and teary wife. Was feeling even worse after I pulled out a pair of shorts to wear because it's such a beautiful day and I couldn't even get close to doing the buttons up and these were the shorts I was wearing at the same time after Danielle's birth!

Sorry about the me post but I really needed to get that out.

I'll try to be a bit more positive next time

It sounds like we all need some hugs...and sleep. We didn't have a very successful day. We were meant to go to the clinic and to my 6 week post natal check, but it wasn't meant to be. It was pouring today and would have been hard to get emily there without getting drenched. I figured she will prob get weighed at the pead tomorrow and that was all I wanted to go for.
Then, when trying to get ready for my ob appoint, I hear this dripping and find our ceiling is leaking through one of the light fittings! Luckily defence housing have a 24 hour maintenance line and they sent someone out to fix a slipped tile on the roof pretty quickly. But we didn't make it to the doc.
Also I was trying to cook frozen dumplings and nearly set them on fire so didn't get any food til 4pm, when DH came home.

And I'm worried pumping is damaging my nipples. I found a black mark on one today, i'll have to go to the doc i think.
I am exhausted!

Sorry about the me post.
hugs to everyone

Aaawwww, I think a group hug is in order girls.

Captain - I am the same as you matey, I try not to let onto DF if I am having a shyte day, not because I want more kids, but more cause I know that he doesn't have the time to help me out. As for the clothes, eeeekkkk, I had to buy a pair of elastic waist shorts the other day cause nothing fits. My tummy has a little bit of a tyre happening PML, funny though, I only have about 3kg to get to my pre preg weight but I was a little chubby before that. Hope you have a better night.

eej - Ouch luv, sorry if you've mentioned anything before, but have you also been rubbing anything on your nipples.
I feel for your leaky roof, we are still yet to get our dodgy roof fixed that leaked all over our stuff just after we bought the house, damned PITA.

Wishing you all a long sleep tonight ;)

Eej, I've had "the black spot" too. It goes away. I thought it was the result of a bruising encounter with Matthew not latching properly. I didn't think of the pump. Hmmm. hugs for missing your appointments today, but very glad you were able to sort out the water leaking problem so swiftly. Wish Teacher Housing was as quick to fix things!

Sue, well done to you for only having 3kg to go. I still have 10kg to lose! Mind you, I did put on a lot of weight and I have lost 14kg already. I really need to exercise. Only a couple of weeks to go, before I can. :)

Captain, your night sounds like my night with Matthew but without the extra wake up to settle Danielle! Hope we have better nights tonight.

Pam, sounds like we need to make a pact not to feel guilty! I'm still finding that a bottle of breast milk makes Matthew sleep longer and then worry that doing that will affect my supply! lol. I think I was born to worry.