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PS didn't quite manage persies but I hear you about marathon feeding sessions. Yesterday we had two 4 hour sleeps and the rest of the day almost constant feeding.
I hope your nipple settle down Ash. The scabs have almost coming off mine and I'm feeling sooo much better now. DD still attaches much better on one side than the other but I've just learnt to be really picky insisting that she gets it right or we try again or have a 5min break.
We've had a pretty rough night here - its seems DD1 has picked up something and woke up really sick at 1am - poor little thing! As well as that Bethany decided to feed every hour and a half all night long and only sleep for about 15 minutes at the time.
I am SOOO tired - hoping a nice hot breakfast will make me feel human again lol
Nice to have you both on Facebook - you're boys are so adorable Lise and I love all your newborn shots Nay!
k4t, DS2 sleeps half the night in his bassinet ( until about 2ish) and the rest of the night IN MY ARMS in bed! I would much prefer he sleep in his bassinet but I also accept that if I want any sleep this is how it has to be for now. I think as long as you follow some basic guidelines then it can be safe, sounds like you're doing all the right things.
Ash, Bethany is gorgeous, so much hair!!! How is DD1 enjoying being a big sister? DS2 also prefers one side so we have the same issues here trying to ensure he attaches correctly on the left. Hope you get a chance to rest up today Ash, I know I'll be having a sleep if both boys sleep st the same time.
DS1 is on here, bbl for more persies xx
Nay, I've also heard good things about chiropractors though haven't used one myself. I did take DS1 to an osteo for his reflux when he was little (about 4 months I think when he started) and that was great. Not sure what a chiro would do but the osteo just held ds in certain positions - sounds weird but worked! I'm trying to make an appointment for ds2. I should add ds1 had a traumatic birth which the osteo could guess without me having to mention it first! Hope you have a more restful day today xx
Ds1 is back so I'll be back again!!
Mel, what a champ you are for feeding your two girls! I think most people would agree its hard work feeding one so good on you!
Maruschke, how lovely for you to have dd2 at home, must be so much easier (apart from the long middle of the night feeds!).
PRMG, hope you can work out what is causing dd to be unsettled. I should keep a food diary too, it's a good idea. You're so good getting out of the house with both girls! I still haven't driven after my c-section and dh is still home in the days ds isn't in care so I haven't gone anywhere alone with the boys. I'm dreading dh going back to work full time, ds1 is VERY full on and testing the boundaries big time as a normal two year old anyway without adding a new baby into the mix and a mummy who can't pick him up. DS2 takes such an age to feed and settle (I have to get him to sleep in my arms before I can transfer to his bassinet) that I'm really worried about the chaos and destruction DS1 will inflict when my attention is diverted...
Well that's as far back as I can go on my phone, plus you're all probably sick of my hundred posts! Will try to stay on top now I've mostly caught up :)
Very tiring night here, back for persies later. DD2 did all her 4-5 hour stretches during the day and 2 hourly at night. Sooo not used to that. And I have the flu :(.
Ash I added you to FB, initials are CH.
Back later.
Maruschke - have added you too :) my last name is Gra.etz
Nawww I see gorgeous newborns :D.
Maruschke, hope you feel better soon, and hope you get some rest xx have also added you on FB - last name for.man
Now I see Atticus! So cute :D.
Ugh have to do the 200km round trip to get this damn bleeding assessed. Golf ball sized clots this morning :(
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Melissa :hug: after DD1 I had clots that big too and it turned out OK. I hope you manage the drive with the twins ok.
I had a few clots after DS1 also and they were nothing. I hope the trip finds nothing serious, must be frustrating having to travel that far with your girls xx
Maruschke, your DDs are gorgeous :)
Melissa - I hope you got the all clear at your appt today :hug:
DD2 has been sleeping so much this afternoon, I'm really hoping it doesn't mean she's planning on pulling an all nighter tonight.
Wishing all mummy's and babies a good nights sleep tonight!
Argh it's going to be one of those nights. I've put DS to sleep three times since 6pm and he wakes five mins after i've put him down. I need a drink!!!
Mellissa - I ended back in hospital after the twins with huge clots.... I hope your alright thinking of you....
AFM - All is well my way, William is such a good baby. The 19 month old is the one giving me problems.
Sending you all sleepng dust soo all your little ones sleep at night for you.........:confetti:
Cathie
Worst night ever! I swear my girls were tag teaming to leave me with the least possible amount of sleep. I think I ended up with a whole hours straight sleep in there somewhere - and that was with DF being up and about helping.
I am so tired!
I have no idea why DD2 wouldn't settle - I'm thinking it's bad wind but it didn't seem to be coming out as much as I'd expect. I'm worried that I might have mild thrush on my nipples and maybe that is upsetting her insides? She really didn't get much sleep at all last night until after 4 and she's still asleep now.
DD1 has a bad head cold and I think she might have a UTI so we're off to the doctors this morning.
My mum is coming over for lunch today so I'm hoping DD1 is feeling much better by then and can maybe spend the afternoon with Grandma so that I can get a sneaky afternoon nap.
I hope everyone had a better night last night!
Melissa - I've been thinking of you hun :hug: I hope everything is ok!
Selfish post ahead ladies...
Sitting here in tears with A on the boob half asleep. Which is what I've been doing for about three hours now. I get A to sleep, put him in his bassinet and he's awake five minutes later. No better in the hammock, in fact he's probably worse as he wakes instantly. DS1 was a shocking sleeper too, had all his day sleeps in my arms while I sat on the couch (he wouldn't even tolerate a sling/carrier, I had to be holding him myself!!), but he at least slept at night. DS2 wants me to hold him day AND night, and I'm just exhausted. I'm tired of him spewing on me (I've changed my top and bra three times already today) and on himself. I'm tired of holding him all the time, I'm tired of not having any personal space. I'm tired of having to sleep half sitting up so i can hold him. DH will be back at work full time next week and I have no idea how I'm supposed to cope with DS2 wanting to be held ALL DAY and still have time to play with DS1, not to mention changing his nappy etc. I just want to scream at DS2 and leave him to cry, but of course I can't do that. I've even thought about feeding him formula in the hope that without my milk issues (too much milk, fast flow/let down etc) he won't vomit as much and I can have some space back.
AAARRRGGGHHH, just ignore me, I just needed to vent.
Ash, hope you get a chance to rest today, and that DD1 is okay xx
Cathie, hope Charlie settles down for you soon!
:hug: Vent away hun! I'm sure over the coming months we will all have a vent or two (or five!).:
Have you thought of expressing a little before each feed to make it easier for him to feed? Over the course of the day you could express enough for DH to feed DS2 once so you don't feel quite so over touched.
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:hug: lise, I remember feeling that way with DD1. DH would want a hug at the end of the day and I just wanted to scream at him "Don't touch me!!!" It's hard when every waking moment is about someone else, whether that be a big person or a little person. I've got my fingers crossed it all settles quickly for you.
Thanks ladies, I feel a bit better this afternoon. He had a good sleep in his bassinet and I got to lie on the couch and read a book, bliss!! We're at the end of a wonder week so hopefully he starts to improve again soon.
I hand express before feeding him but might try expressing properly so dh can feed, thanks Maruschke. I was hopeless at expressing with DS1 (which I found bizarre given how much milk I had???) so have been assuming it would be the same this time round but I should give it a go!
Just wanting to send out a giant big group hug.
So on Sunday, I went to get my bleeding checked out. Had bloods taken, swabs, internal and was sent home with a prescription for ab's and something to control the bleeding which I could get filled if I started feeling like rubbish. Yesterday, I felt ok, bloods had shown very slight elevation in an inflammatory marker but nothing of concern so I hung onto the prescription. Yesterday evening, the ***** totally hit the fan. I was absolutely fine at about 8pm, pumped at half eight and noticed I felt slightly off. Half an hour later, I was shivering uncontrollably, not too much later I started burning up. I think I called my midwife at about 10pm, she came straight over and I went straight to our local hospital to get stabilised. At this point, I was barely coherent, could hardly walk and my temperature was 40.5 degrees. Once I was stable, I was rushed through to the big hospital an hour away ( in hindsight I feel a but ripped off cos I was soooo close to getting choppered out). It's weird, pretty much as soon as I got antibiotics on board (3 lots of iv), I picked up and my temp came down. I have never felt so ill in my life. We don't know exactly where the infection came from, whether it is uterine or not but I definitely do have mastitis along with it. Just can't believe how quickly I went down. I'm in hospital now, hoping I won't be in for long - feel like a crap mum cos I am too exhausted and sick to have the girls with me full time. Crapola last few days, can only get better.
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Melissa :hug: what a scary few days you've had! You aren't a bad mum, just a sick mum :hug:. I hope this is the end of the infection / mastitis etc.
Melissa - I hope you feel better and don't have to spend too long in hospital.
:hugs and sleepy dust: for all the sleep deprived among us (which is obviously all of us just some on some days more than others.)
Lise - I definitely know how you feel being unable to put your little one down. Thankfully DD loves being worn so at least I can get my hands free. Ive decided to wait until she's gaining weight well and I'm less stressed about feeding before I even try to coax her into sleeping in the bassinet. One battle at a time. I fell asleep feeding her lying down on our sides last night and it was the best 4+ hours sleep we've ever had together.
We went on our first mother-daughter outing today to a local sling meet. DD was a little angel - fed well, slept the whole time I wore her and poop stayed contained to her nappy. :) Feeling much more confident wearing her after some expert help too.
Mel - I hope you recover quickly and get to go home, how scary, glad its all under control now. Totally agree with Maruschke - you are not a crap Mum, you are just in the middle of a crap time. Hope you are with the girls again soon xx
Lise - Hugs to you to, we all have those moments, glad it got a bit better today, vent away as thats exactly what we are all here for - to support each other as we are all going through similar things with newborns/settling etc. I've been getting frustrated at not being able to have a shower in the mornings, it seems all I do it feed, settle, play with DS and try to keep my house in order. 15 mins to have a darn shower seems too much to ask!! Fortunately in the last two days I've actually managed one before midday!! LOL
Ash - hows DD1 going? Hopefully she is on the mend for you (and her). Hope you've managed to catch up on some sleep too
PRMG - How are you going? I guess its not long till you move house now?
Char - yay for the housekeeper! Yay, it will be such a big help! I'd be lost without a cleaner now, it gives me so much time back with the kids.
Nat - your little man is divine! Congrats again xxx
Annika has had two much calmer days, she seems to have gotten over the refluxy/spewy weekend, so whatever was bothering her from my diet has clearly flushed through her system. We also introduced the dummy which has really helped her with wind. I read in the ABA book that dummys can be helpful to help windy/refluxy babies expel the wind, and it really seems to be helping. She spits it out once asleep, but it seems useful after a big feed to help her get it (wind etc) moving. She's a champion feeder/sucker so I'm not too fussed about it interfering with successful breastfeeding at this point. She makes some weird sounds in her sleep though, and as I wrap her (and her arms), she grunts and groans and eventually wriggles her way out of the muslin some nights hahahaha. I made an appt for her at the baby chiro after our horrid weekend which I will keep, I am still thinking that her super quick birth and wind/reflux may be related, so will still go even though she seems better, but don't have an appt until next Tues. This Chiro specialises in babies so keen to have her seen.
Better go, she's rousing for some booby juice
Nay
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Mel - Oh my goodness! How scary! You certainly aren't a bad mum, go easy on yourself and focus on getting well again. :hug:
Lise - I was shocking at expressing last time too so haven't wanted to give it a go this time around. I'm interested to read if it is better for you this time around.
k4t - Sounds like you had a nice day out!
Nay - Moving day is getting super close. We've got three weekends left here at home. Glad Annika is settling again for you.
Back later...DD2 is a bit unsettled atm.
Well ladies Jacob finally decided to make his appearance.
I had asked for induction last week to no avail. Was having a rough time coping and at my appt yesterday again induction came up. I found out I was 3cm dilated so midwife did a S&S and got the ok for induction today at 8am from the big boss!
Well LO and behold didn't need the induction. Had irregular contractions from around 3.30am but still nothing too painful or regular when I arrived at the hospital at 8am. They set me up for induction, breathed through the pains, had a joke or 2 with midwife. At 9am they ob did an internal to break my waters and found I was 8cm dilated!!!! Holy crap! At around 9.45 they decided they needed to put a clip on his head to accurately monitor his heart rate and asked I lie on my back. Well, didn't I shock the staff! They could see his head!
So stats were
Born 10.08am
Weighing 3.25kg/7lb 1oz (yep he surprised us all, considering last week I was measuring 35cm/weeks)
Length 49cm
Head 36cm
He played around to get on the boob (was more interested in licking it) but we got a good feed and he's pretty much slept since!
We were discharged just after 3pm so enjoying newborn snuggles!
What a beautiful birth story! I bet you were surprised to find you were at 8 cm!!! Enjoy the newborn snuggles. I saw photos on FB and he is just gorgeous :D.
I got DD2 weighed today and she has put on 300 grams in a week, little piggy! Glad to know my EBM is sustaining her so well :D. She had a 6 hour sleep today, I just wish she would do that during the night instead of during the day!!!
Hope everyone else is doing OK with their bubs.
Cmkm - hope your first night went well :)
Nat- hope you are enjoying your babymoon x x
Wow cmkm, when he finally decided to arrive he really wanted to make a grand entrance!! So glad you got to have a vaginal birth and don't have to worry about the ramifications of a c-section. Hope all is going well at home so far.
Go Maruschke, what magic EBM you have! How long until DD2 is strong enough to suck from the boob? And she had a six hour sleep, I'm jealous, even if it was during the day!! The longest DS2 has slept is 4.5 hours :(
And speaking of sleep, it's now 1pm, ds2 woke at 9:45 and I'm still trying to get him to sleep :wall:
cmkm - Congratulations again! He's a beautiful boy, and what an entrance! Glad you were able to avoid the c/s and the complications that were going to follow :hug:
Maruschke - That's fantastic! What a little champion feeder you have! I'd love DD2 to have a huge sleep at night too....oh boy, I can dream right?
lise - Hope you could get DS2 to have a sleep for you. It's so hard when they're unsettled.
AFM - We had our MCHN check yesterday and for the first time, I loved the nurse. She was great and naturally the sucky bit is when we move in three odd weeks, we change councils, so I have to transfer to another clinic. Doh! DD2 gained 210g in five days, she's such a feeder! We think there was a discrepancy with her length at birth because yesterday's measurement said she was 55cms. It was checked and double checked and that means she's grown a whopping 4cms in two weeks...hmmm. I tend to think that the measurement taken at birth (at 3am!) was a little out.
She's going really well. She was a bit unsettled yesterday, but it was so cold here in Melb yesterday that I had trouble keeping the house warm. She was happy to snuggle into me often, but as soon as I put her to bed, she'd crack it. Today she's back to being happy again. She's a really cruisy baby, I'm just enjoying her so much. DD1 is being a gem with her, really gentle around her. We're copping some attitude still from DD1, but I'm convinced it's just because she's 3!!!!!!
Cmkm - what a wonderful birth story. Enjoy your little one. I hope the sleeping keeps going for the next day or two.
Maruschke - it sounds like you have magic EBM. I wish my boobs could learn yours' secrets! Great job.
PRMG - Good luck with moving. We may be moving in January and I'm dreading it big time - always so stressful. I can't imagine doing it with such a little bub but I'm sure you'll manage things brilliantly.
Just a quick post from me today. DD is finally gaining weight (at least a little.) I haven't got her book in front of me and don't remember the exact numbers but the MCHN is hoping for her to be back to birth weight by 3 weeks. I'm still struggling to express as often as I should be but I'm so relieved things are going in the right direction. She had a really unsettled night last night. I think she's getting overtired. We haven't got any consistent evening routine yet. Always seem to run out of time and be doing stuff like bathing her at 9-10pm etc. What is 'bedtime' for your little ones?
Oh, and I had my first post-pregnancy sushi yesterday. Yumm!
DD2 has her last bottle EBM feed at 10 pm, then a nappy change, and then goes down for the night. Last night she woke at 2.30 am but only took 30 mils, then up again at 6.45 am. I got suddenly engorged last night so I didn't sleep a wink despite DD2 being so good.
I lost three posts yesterday and was so cross I gave up! Now I have to remember what I said ;)
PRMG, I don't know how it works in Melbourne but do you HAVE to change clinics when you move? Can you just forget to tell the clinic?! Or will it be too inconvenient when you move to go back there? I can empathise about the attitude - DS1 has been testing the boundaries but its also hard to tell if he's playing up because of Atticus or because he's two!
k4t, yay for DD gaining weight, that's great! Can't help you with the night time routine, last night DS2 went to sleep around 7pm and woke about 11pm for a feed, but other nights it's around 9pm. I'm thinking we need more of a night time routine also but he's still so random during the day that I'm not sure how we would implement it...
Another crappy night with DS2. I think all up he spent 4 hours max in his bassinet yesteay, the rest of his sleeps were all on me, including from 111pm last night. I completely lost it last night, I'd just had enough, and I even yelled at DS2 that I just didn't want to hold him any more. And then of course I hid in the toilet and cried for being a bad mother. I have my six week check up next week and I'm not sure if I should be asking about reflux meds for DS2 (he doesn't seem it be in pain as such, more just the constant vomiting, especially when he's flat. I elevate one end of his bassinet but it still seems to wake him up...) or anti depressants for me. I think part of his issue is he's over tired but he's so hard to get to sleep! How does everyone get their baby to sleep and how much sleep do they have in a 24 hour period?
lise - arrrggghhhhh, but may I just say you are NOT a bad mother at all, that's a tough day babe, no wonder you lost your patience. Our going to sleep routine is pretty basic, DD seems wakeful in the mornings so we put her in the bouncer etc, or lay her on the playmat - not that she plays as such, but gives her a chance to kick her legs, or have a different view from the bassinet or our arms. She probably sleeps about 20 hours in 24 - but she's only just hit 2 weeks so I know it will get less and less as she 'wakes' from her newborn sleepiness. To get her to sleep I am a big fan of wrapping her up tight in a muslin wrap and will rock or pat her in my arms and pop her in the bassinet just prior to her dozing off, or once asleep. When she is a bit restless we generally do bath/feed/wrap and this is a winner. Last night she was a bit unsettled after a feed at 230am so I just took her back to bed with me :) I think this post is ok to link as its not commercial, but here is some interesting 'norms' re newborn sleep patterns
http://www.cyh.com/HealthTopics/Heal...np=122&id=1902
k4t - 'Bedtime' is whatever time her feed is after I put DS to bed - so 8-9ish, We've bathed at 9pm a few times, mostly cos it's just easier sometimes once I have DS sorted for the night. I keep the lights dimmed overnight for feeding and this seems to help keep her sleepy until daylight (so far :D ) I remember with DS that he was most wakeful at night around the 6 week stage - so am bracing myself for that!
PRMG - I just rang up CYH (same as MCHN over there) for our home visit, they have a bit of a backlog apparantly. They are coming out on Aug 20th so I wont have DD weighed again until then. DS has had a bit of toilet training regression since DD has been home, however its more because I forget to remind him to go do wee's like I would have have regularly done (the day just flies by and I realise its been hours since he's gone to the loo and as a consequence his jocks are wet), so we are making a conscious effort to get back on track with that!
Maruschke - Nice work on the 300gm gain - what a champ DD2 is!!
Must away, I swear every I get on the PC to write a decent post DD knows and awakens for a feed LOL! I'm too lazy to post via my phone (which is how I read most posts), hate typing on the iphone keyboard :rofl: Anyway, in a nutshell, we have had a great week so far, hope I don't jinx myself by typing that!! :o
Nay
I'm back!!
Anyone else feeling a little melancholy at no longer being pregnant? Annika completes our family so there will be no more pregnancies for me, or another birth, and although I am happy with our family exactly as it is, it's bitter sweet for me, especially as our journey to get pregnant was a challenge. I think its part due to the big emphasis that had been in our life previously to get pregnant, but then also the fact that I enjoyed both pregnancies a lot, and I guess it feels like it's the 'end of that era'. Probably sounds dumb but anyway......
double post!
Nay, not dumb at all. It's a chapter of your life that has ended, but it's brought you two wonderful little people. I get the bittersweet about it. Each night since M has been born, I've gone to bed and reached down to hug my belly and then remember that it's no longer there. Even after the pregnancies I have had, I still have had a couple of moments of "that won't ever happen again" so for you who loved being pregnant, I understand why you're feeling the way you are :hug:
I understand Nae. I feel like I am mourning the end of my own fertility (even though it sucked to begin with, LOL). Getting ready to discard our last frostie and tie my tubes and say goodbye to that part of life for good.