Babies born ~ May 1st-15th 2011 #1

Em Bree is on Nan HA too. I have considered going back to S26 because they have AR (Anti reflux) but I don't want to keep swapping and changing. The doc said their is no problem in doing it, but I don't feel comfortable doing it. They also say their is no harm in babies screaming in pain for hours at a time, but I beg to differ on that subject too.
I have changed Bree's dummies back to the cherry shaped ones. (I had to buy more) she had them before but she pooped them so I had put her back on the avent brand dummies, and I am wondering if that might be contributing to her seemingly worse colic and reflux lately. She has had a bit of Infants Friend, its hard to say if it is helping.
I gave her some Mylanta this morning after her morning bottle because she vomited x2, they were only small ones, thank fully, and I managed to catch it all without wearing it. YAY She has been fine since then (a couple of screams occasionally for a moment). I have been able to sit down and continue reading a book that I have not touched in about 3-4 months... but the kids are keeping her entertained between her naps too :) Nan bought some nice shiny books which she loves to look at (she has a major fascination with lights) I don't remember if my older 3 were like that? She likes them that much that she even smiles at them when they are turned off LOL
Does anyone else notice that with their bub?

BBB must have been posting at the same time :) Glad to hear you had a great time in Sydney. It's nice to have a break! I hope you are feeling energised again. It does sound like Jake is going through a growth spurt. I remember Bree on one night in particular had a full bottle at about 10pm and then by about 10:45 she was having another one, and left very little of it. I think that was because of a growth spurt. DH spent more time with her over the weekend and when I took over again in the evening, I looked at her and thought, Wow you have grown so much today! I am finding that I just cannot squeeze her into 000 anymore. I don't think it helps with her reflux by having a tight jumpsuit on either, so I have packed most of her 000 away, but I need to buy more 00 and I haven't got any 0's at all. Maybe we should go shopping. I had some stuff here I thought I would bring down and see if it fits Jacob, even if it was only a week or two, but I left it too long now lol... blink and you miss it huh! lol

Oh I have to share with you this little story;

So the other night, I came home from the footy (watching the crows loose to essendon) :rolleyes: anyway, when I got home, Bree was awake in her basinet. I looked at her and gave her a big smile and asked "Do you want mummy to pick you up and give you lots of cuddles, she looked at me and shook her head - No. Oh I said, do you want Daddy to pick you up and give you cuddles, she looked at me, smiled, and shook her head, No. Oh I said, do you want Nannles to pick you and give you cuddles, she looked at me, smiled, and shrugged one shoulder.
It was so cute, it bought a tear to my eye. I know its all coincidence but it is still so beautiful. I just wish I had a camera rolling. It makes all those poos and late nights worth it doesn't it... :D

Wow - everyone has been so busy! I can't believe how quickly time is passing by.

Emc- you have been doing an amazing job, and good on you for perservering with breastfeeding. It can be such a hard journey when you need to supplement feed, and people are far to quick to judge. Your story has reminded me just how little we know of other mum's situations when we see them out and about. We all put too much pressure on each other - which is why I love this forum, everyone is so supportive.

GG- I too have noticed Amelia is fascinated by lights. She loves to stare at the sunlight dancing on our lounge room wall in the mornings. Some times she even talks to it. I wish I could still view the world in such simplicity and aww. I'm sorry to hear you are having a hard time with the reflux. I hope you find a solution soon.

Back shortly... gotta get Amelia...

I feel so amazing this morning! I went to bed at 10:30pm with Jake, and he only woke up once at 2am before we got up at 7:30am!!!!
And his 2am feed was the easiest yet! Left side in bed, then got up to change and playtime, then right side in bed, some burping and back to sleep :)
I hope this is the turning point and it goes like this from now on :)

I love sleep !

BBB Yay, see all that two hour feeding paid off in the end. Bree has done a similar thing, the day before yesterday she was feeding every 3 hours, drinking 200mls each time, she finished 6 bottles of 200 mls (1.2l in one day lol) then yesterday, she was fussing around, didn't finish not one bottle, only ended up drinking 750mls for the day... Hope you have got a good thing continuing now :) just remember, when he asks for frequent feeding during the day, it means, long sleep hours not to far away! :) Well done.

FarmGirl I wish we had some sunshine to dance around. Bree would love it, and I would too, I hate the cold weather. Brrr I think our winter is the coldest in quite a few years, yet so was our last summer too...

Great news... went back to the doctor yesterday, we finally (and I say finally coz it is a loooong story) got the losec for reflux !!!
I asked the doctor for losec I think it was about a week ago. He refused. I have taken her back 3 times in the last week and had a locum out as she has been getting progressively worse with wind and vomiting etc.
Finally, yesterday he decided to give us the medicine she needs, but rather than go with the losec that I had requested, he gave me some other prescription, which cost about $50. I didn't find out until I was about to pick up the prescription - from the second chemist, as the first one didn't have it in stock. I nearly went through the roof. I asked her if there was anything else that is the same thing but is covered on the PBS? Losec, she says... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr to say I was mad, is an understatement.
I rang the doctor and explained the situation, they were going to get me to talk to the doctors clinic, but the doctor had gone home, instead I had to go back to the clinic and see a different doctor, who still made it seem soooooo hard to get it done. Its not for children under 1 he says. Well apparently all the babies are using this for reflux, its very common in newborns. Well we have to work out the dosage he says. Yes, well the first doctor had to do the same thing for the other prescription.
Both medicines are exactly the same thing, have to be mixed by me at home exactly the same way, everything is the same, except for the name and the price. But I finally got the script, and then they made me sign another medicare benefit form :0 how much money they have made in the last few weeks in appointments alone is incredible.
I still don't understand why they kept telling me to keep coming back - to see how she goes, when all that has done is trained her to be weary of drinking her bottle and allowed her to continue getting worse, she is fussing with her bottle out of habbit now. She did this this morning. She usually drinks the first half well, but then she gets a little wind and gets a bit of reflux and doesn't want to continue... Once she realised that her belly is feeling a bit better this morning after her big burp, she was ok. It just makes me so mad, not only the fact of the situation, but the fact that it makes me so angry. What should have been done by 4pm last night, took until 6:30pm, making dinner and bath time a massive rush, not to mention running the kids to training. I had to leave my dinner on the table while rushing around to and from sport etc. OK, I've vented now, sorry but I feel lots better lol

hi ladies,

we are going very well here. Been introducing Chloe to one bottle of EBM each day to get her use to the bottle as i have a wedding to attend in september. She fusses a bit, seems to prefer the tommee tippee bottle over the avent one. she roughly has about 100mls.

Sleep is going great guns ( hope i dont jinx myself by saying that LOL ) we have a bath, a play and a feed from 730 - 830 then we have afeed top up and she goes to bed. Sometimes ive even been able to put her down while she is awake and she settles to sleep herself :) and the last 5 nights she has slept till anywhere between 530 - 7am! So i dont have much to complaing about.

She is also getting right onto her side, so close to rolling over!

Hope everyone is well.

forgot to say AF has reared her ugly head here.... was hoping she would stay away a bit longer :(

Jim's always been fascinated by lights and dark and light. At my parents he would look up at the ceiling at night time when I was feeding him; and since we got home, he loves to look at the fish tank, even though initially I had no fish in it, the light plays on the air bubbles amongst other things.

In the past couple of days Jim has been taking more formula feeds, but I'm not sure if he's "eating" enough. I have got some more Pigeon bottles from eBay including wide neck ones, so I just have to wait to get the right teat for them. I am going to use the smallest teats for longer to help with him chucking up. He ranges between being a small chucker to some reflux in that once a week or ten days he does a yellow chuck.

Hoping the baby probiotics will arrive by the end of the week, and I put in for a referral to the Infant Feeding clinic, but I don't know how much that will help with BF.

I am going to the GP to get some Motilium though, it makes me dizzy but worth a go to see if we can do a little bit more BF. I intend to at least keep up some BF simply to prevent my ex having any ideas about him taking him off on his own for a long time.

I have an appointment to investigate Mediation for a Parenting Plan; however I also need to get legal advice about it, I have heard with mediation, the mediators take a 50-50 viewpoint - so I'm concerned that it might take away from my being able to make decisions on parenting Jim even at this stage.

GG it is so annoying with doctors, I am lucky that I'm bulk billed, but sometimes they refuse to prescribe the simplest of medications or order unnecessary pathology tests.

I am using the Trixie Tracker website to track what I am doing with Jim, just to see if any useful patterns come to light from it. I am trying to use it for a week anyway. Some things I do get entered after the time I've done them.

Hi Ladies

Gemini_girl - How very frusterating for you at the dr's. If you've been back multiple times why would they nt prescribe the meds? I'd be finding a new Dr that's for sure. it shouldn't be that hard to get a script for an upset baby. No wonder they all drive mercs with all the money they get from unessecary appointments.

Bern - L is almost rolling as well. She actually did roll over on the bed the other day but I'm not sure if that's just a fluke or not haha. I think my bleeding was AF as well lol. Now I'm a bit worried I'm UTD again so soon. Never thought I'd say that haha. We use the Tommee Tippee closer to nature range. I find that sometimes the teat goes back into itself whilst L is feeding. I don't know if she's pushing it back or it's a thing the teat does. Otherwise they are great and I've had no problems with giving her a bottle of EBM.

EMC - I had mediation for our parenting plan for my first 2. Have you applied for legal aid? I'd do that first to get the ball rolling. I got legal aid for my mediation and it didn't take long to have everything all sorted and the plan in place. They do try and do the 50/50 thing but if you don't agree then just say so and they try and work out a compromise etc.... Some plans can take ages as the 2 parties don't agree on anything and that can be frusterating. Mine didn't take long because we bith knew what we wanted and we were already doing it anyway. It was just a formalisation for my divorce. Good luck.

porsche - the tommee tippee teat done the same thing for us.

Porsche Yes I will be looking for a new doctor soon. I am meant to be packing this morning as we have to move soon, not sure exactly when, but it has to be sometime before november, the sooner the better to get it out of the way. Also, I have had a few of the Avent teats go inside out a few times. I think it is because Bree gets so hungry that she just keeps drinking. The avent bottles have the colic ring to allow air flow into the bottle, but sometimes they don't work well and no air gets back in, and when she doesn't stop to let air in, thats when they turn inside out. Its funny to watch because she starts getting annoyed with her bottle when all she has to do is stop for a short moment LOL better go, she is a bit cranky, had enough of reading with DD2 lol

OMG L just rolled over! She did it twice in a row. She wouldn't do it for the video camera though.

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OMG L just rolled over! She did it twice in a row. She wouldn't do it for the video camera though.

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Awesome !

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:leap: for L :)

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OMG L just rolled over! She did it twice in a row. She wouldn't do it for the video camera though.

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Aaaaww how cute... well done Lilly! Wow she is in a hurry huh hehe

Yay for Lilly rolling over

GG - I don't have that much experience as a Mum, but have been reading a lot on reflux. Jim doesn't have a full on reflux just a wee bit. Anyway dummies help produce a lot of saliva which is supposed to be good.

Porsche - Thanks I've got an appointment with the Family Relationship centre to start the ball rolling about mediation, however I do feel I need legal aid and further legal advice before the mediation happens.

Last night my Dad had a conversation with my ex, and his parents during the visit here. Basically apparently when they were harassing me during a breastfeed the other week, I was apparently feeding Jim while he was asleep!? Also my ex felt there was nothing wrong in our relationship, and the break up came as a complete surprise?! Therefore I apparently need to see a psychiatrist BUT he apparently wants things to be amicable! WTF So that is all not a surprise to me.

Anyway back to talking about bubs, so after a couple of days just got in a BF this morning, he was kind of asleep as babies are at this time of the day, so he wasn't fussing at the boob which was good.

I put the probiotics in one of his bottles last night but I'm not sure how much he got. I am interested to see if that helps him be less windy, less chucky. Also I have got some larger bibs to catch his chucks, even though they're small, they seem to end up everywhere but on the bibs we had. I also got a "bib clip" so I can make a tea towel into a bib as well, a bit exxy but very useful.

I have spent a lot of money now, but I hope this will help bubby. I am using terry flats though so that is a saving. I have bought some PUL covers as Baby Beehinds have had a sale so have bought a couple more small ones, some mediums, and some large. You just can't buy plastic pilchers much anymore.

Oh with the formula, I think I will eventually need larger bottles, although most of his feeds are 100ml still. I got two lots of Pigeon bottles on eBay so that was great - have got eleven bottles now, including six wide neck ones. I am hoping the wide neck will help with comping/switching between breast and bottle.

Ok must go and give Jim a cuddle.

emma - what do your x's parents think is wrong with BF Jim while he asleep, Chloe is always falling asleep on the breast but keeps sucking. As far as i know there is nothing wrong with that?

Jinxed myself by commenting how well Chloe sleeps cause the night before she woke at 1am for a feed, although last night she didnt wake till 430 which was good. Had a kind of a headache yesterday where everytime i bent over there was a pressure in my head like it was compacting everything in there... took some panadol doesnt seem as bad now..

My SIL went into labour last night, just got a text saying she has to have a c sect, cant wait to find out if i have another niece or nephew :)

Bern I jinxed myself too, after mY first great night with jake, 4hrs then feed then 5hrs.... Next night I work 7 times with him!! He was good again last night tho.

Em, next time they be stupid ask them where they got their lactation consultant accreditation from... Srsly they obviously have no idea what they are talking abt. The hormones in your breastmilk, especially the hind milk, make Jim drowsy, its normal and a good sign he's getting lots of fatty hind milk!

GG I haven't used any colic meds at all, over the counter or otherwise. Jake only has a bit of a cry when farting in the morning but a dummy or breast usually soothes him, guess I'm lucky this time. How you find something that works for you soon



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