Babies born~December 1st-15th 2009 #1

Hi Tilda - you're welcome, anytime! Definitely would love to catch up when you come to Perth.:dance:

Hi Beany - so lovely to hear from you! That's great you're having fun with your mummy, when does she go back? OMG we do everything the same lol....my period was super light too, only last a couple of days and was nothing that I expected, turned into more of a pale coloured bloody discharge (sorry TMI) yours too? Weird! Michael sounds like he's doing so well, go the formula huh, I think that's what helps Amelia sleep so long at night too and stay in a routine. It's great to talk to someone else who FF's. I still give Amelia a boob before a bottle but I don't know how much she gets, she's only on for 5 mins each side :o. You've made me wonder though as I'm only giving her 125mls of formula, should I be giving her more? Unless the boob is giving more than I think?! Can't wait to catch up with you and Tilda soon. Get back on soon, we miss you! And don't worry, 9.30 pm is my bed time too, ha ha! Oh and have fun at the christening tomorrow, I must organise Amelia's....DH isn't so keen but mum keeps asking and I'd like to! Let us know how it goes. And yes, the smiles are the greatest, melts your heart huh! xx

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Thanks for listening girls! If my back doesn't improve and I feel like I'm getting depressed I'll definitely do something about it. I'm just hoping that it miraculously feels better tomorrow. Well I was just about to say I finally got Matilda to sleep but there she is...I don't know what's up with her today. Usually she's passed out by this time of night even on a bad day. Bye....

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Tilda, we seriously have the same baby! Eva has been really unsettled the past two days too...Just waking up every time I put her down...I know it is really "bad" but have you tried putting her to sleep on her belly? Eva totally passes out that way. And have you gotten her a dummy yet? If not, this might be a good time. It really helps them settle. I know how you feel but don't. I am physically exhausted and feel like crap, and ugly and fat and in pain and tired - you name it. You are a wonderful mother or else you would not be on here and always looking for solutions and always doing exactly what she needs, therefor feeling tired (which is normal since you are a slave to the baby, meaning a wonderful mother!) - don't beat yoruself up for all this stuff - some days are better than others and I get you. I have days (like today for that matter) where I just feel like falling apart. I can't even get to bed since I am so tired...it will poass and will get better and soon she will be calmer. You're almost at three months, Just wait a bit...See if DH can take her for two hours while you go have a hot bath and quiet time. You'd be amazed at how wonderful you will feel after a small break.

Alison, some people are just annoying. I get you. Those bragger types are always annoying and if they are stupid to boot, you just don't get how they get so lucky!

Beany, great to hear from you! Enjoy your mum! It is so great to have family around and yay for Micahel being such a wonderful boy...What a nice schedule :) I love mornings, Eva talks and coos and giggle for a good half hour during her morning change, and washup...They are getting so much more beautiful every day, aren't they? Eva was doing really well for about a week and has been gassy and crying the past two days. i hope it passes...I need the rest! I don't get excited for any changes since I am not sure how long they will stay :)

I need to consider the 9:30 bedtime...it might help me feel better but I can't seem to get to bved once she's down since I want to get things done...but I am wearing myself a bit thin...and not getting thinner...lol

Hi there - hope you don't mind if I crash into this thread?

My name is Rachel. I have two babes - a 15mth old boy and my 2mth old baby girl - Charlotte who was born 3 Dec 09 via c-section.

I haven't read through all the pages of this thread yet......but will do soon so I can try and catch up - hope you don't mind.

Rachel.

Hi Rachel - welcome to our thread, everyone here is fantastic, we're all great friends even though we haven't met lol! Congrats on the birth of your little girl, what are your kiddies names? I am interested to hear your story as we just had our first baby - Amelia on the 30th November by emergency c-section and will probably try and fall pregnant again in 12 months or a little less depending on how I feel! I'm 37 this year so don't want to wait too long. Is it hard with the age difference?.....the OB says I can start trying when Amelia is 8 months but we haven't decided yet, seems a bit scary atm! We too found out at my check up the other day that the infection I had picked up while in labour was a rare and deadly staph infection of the amniotic fluid so it's extremely lucky Amelia didn't die, so given that we just want to enjoy her for a while. I hated having a c-section as it wasn't expected but am fine with it now, especially given that information, it saved her life, thank goodness for my wonderful OB! Will probably have to have another next time though unfortunately. Such is life! I am enjoying being a mum so much, even the difficult days although I do feel blessed to have a very good baby, she's sleeping 9 hours at night at the moment since I put her in her cot a week ago, I think she loves the space. The only issue I'm having currently is my milk supply so she's being BF'd and then FF'd with a bottle each feed, I feel bad but what can I do, she has to eat, need to get over feeling guilty about that.

Anyway, that's my story very quickly, look forward to chatting with you some more!

Hi BS - I hear you on the weight thing, I feel so gross, I need to lose 6 kgs and tone up, badly - I can't wear any of my pre pregnancy clothes unless they're dresses, so depressing!

I did get my new pram though and I love it so am determined to start walking everyday now and shift some of this flab!

Hope everyone one else is well. I need to do some housework now, yuk!

Welcome Rachel. It's always exciting to have someone new join in. Don't worry too much about catching up on the thread - it could take you awhile! I had a baby girl, Matilda, on 6 December. She was supposed to be a planned CS, but it ended up being an 'emergency' CS by definition because my waters broke a week early. But it was all a great experience that I will never forget.

Hi BS - are we living parallel lives or something?? We must catch up for a coffee next time I'm in Brussels :D Thank you for all your support! I'm feeling much better today. My back is still touchy but its not the disaster I was worried it was going to be. Its just when you've had bad injuries before the threat of a reinjury really gets you panicky. DH was a complete godsend this morning and tokk Matilda so I could sleep in for a couple of hours, Matilda was hysterical again tonight due to lack of sleep. Its so hard isn't it when you know they need to sleep but they just fight it! We tried a dummy a week or so ago and it settled her to begin with but within about 5 minutes it had dropped out of her mouth and we went back to square one. So we thought it might just create another issue. Anyway, take care of yourself. You're sounding so tired too. Being Sunday morning over there, I'm hoping your DH was able to give you a sleep in too.

Alison, Beany, and Rose, it will be great to catch up in perth in a couple of weeks! Will be in touch about it.

Hi everyone else. Sorry I can't do great persies tonight. Need to give DH a break so better go.

Rachel, Welcome!

Alison, love your sig pic! What a cutie pie :)

Tilda, I tried four dummies before finding one that worked well. I would really suggest you try to find a shape that helps her - you have NO IDEA what w godsend it is, especially for babies like ours :) - With Eva I had to give it to her a few times before she took it, like the bottle - rememeber we have babies that love staying attached to the nipple, so they have to understand that they can satisfy their sucking urge from something that is not us...You are invited to lunch or dinner at my place if you're ever on my side of the pond! We have to introduce these two! lol

As for me, wanted a sleep in but left baby with DH in bed and got a bunch of stuff done instead! Heres hoping for that 9pm bedtime today :crossfingers:

Planning a long walk in the forest today and finishing up some stuff around the house (yet again!).

hugs to all the mums and bubs!

Hi lovely ladies!

Rachel - Welcome! By all means try to read this thread and catch up, but honestly we 'talk' so much you're better off just jumping in with both feet! I'm a 2nd time Mummy too, my eldest son Craig is nearly 2 1/2 and my baby boy Ryan is 10 weeks. Ryan was a drug free natural birth (VBAC) and Craig was a C-section (undiagnosed breech). Technically we belong in the November Baby Buddies, but Ryan's due date was 9 Dec so I was in the Dec Belly Buddies and love these girls too much to leave.

Alison - I understand perfectly about how your work colleague with the new baby gets under your skin. No one has the perfect baby so don't worry, reality will hit her hard before very long. I don't wish the baby blues on anyone, but I know that all of us here have had at least one really low point in the first 2 months.

Tilda - :hug: I really hope it gets better for you. I have no back issues and my neck and shoulders are painful from lugging around these giant boobs and BFing. That's really great that your DH was able to give you a break. I haven't had a chance to post these last couple of days, but my suggestion was to get out with the pram and take her for a walk. That used to help me with Craig when he was crying and even if he didn't stop then I felt better.

BS - Don't worry hun, if your FB pics are anything to go on then you're absolutely gorgeous! You're my hero for keeping up the makeup with a new baby. I haven't worn makeup for months :( The weight will melt off, you're certainly putting in the hard yards with your personal trainer and the elliptical trainer.

Beany - Hope Michael's Christening goes well and that you enjoy every moment you have your Mum here before she goes home. I'm really sorry that you weren't able to BF, but don't feel guilty. Michael is getting the nourishment he needs and you have your sanity. You will have the chance to try again to BF with your next baby. I hope the antibiotics sort out your MIL's infection.

Sesame - Hope Liam has been good since his immunisations.

AFM - Ryan has been quite unsettled with lots of crying periods, wind, painful poos and fussy feeding since his immunisation on Friday. It's made me realise what a good baby he's been up until now! We are going for Morning Tea with our Mother's Group tomorrow so I hope he's more settled. DH is away this weekend and I'm really glad we stayed here. Travelling with a fussy baby would have been horrible. Last night I had insomnia and ended up posting my birth story, so for those who didn't get to read it back in Belly Buddies: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...orry-long.html

Hi girlies,

How are you all? Hi and welcome, Rachel! Hope you find this link as useful as I do!

Suz - I wonder why Ryan is so unsettled? One of the girls in my mother's group is going throught the same thing. I wonder if it's a growth thing? Hope he settles down soon.

BS - did you have your walk? I need to get out of the house too. Oh, and I've been meaning to ask you - are you still with your trainer? Does he give you new exercises for post-pregnancy or just your old ones? I've decided to get my old trainer back to whip me into shape and I was wondering if he'll give me new things to do seeing that I'm sooooo unfit! We'll see!

Alison - one thing that might help your supply is drinking HEAPS of water. I would drink more than 2 litres a day and I have plenty. I also find that if I rest I will have more after it. That's why you tend to have less after a long day and plenty in the mornings. Maybe that could help, too?

Everyone else - hope you're all doing fabulously!

ATM - I have news. Jack slept for 7 hours on thursday and 7.5 last night! I have no idea what has changed but I'm not complaining. We went up to mum's on the weekend so he was out of routine and didn't sleep well Friday and Saturday but as soon as we were home he was good again. Yipeeee!

I was worried he would never sleep for long periods because he feeds for 5 mins at a time, but apparently that ain't a problem! :lol:

Beany - Wow! Micheal sounds like he's doing beautifully! He's definitely eating well, I can't seem to encourage Liam to take more than about 100mLs, hence I'm feeding every couple of hours. And yes, the morning smiles are fantastic aren't they. :)
Thanks for asking about Dad, I forgot it's been so long since I've been here. Dad passed away 8 days after Liam was born. We managed to get Liam up to the hospital for a visit and Dad passed two days after that. We're all doing well, just glad that Dad's not suffering anymore.

I hope Micheal's christening was beautful!

Rachel - Hi! Looking forward to hearing about your two beautiful bubs. :) :welcome:

Tilda - I hope your Matilda gets some rest and so do you. :comfort:

BS - I saw the forest in your FB pictures, it looks like you live in the most beautiful area. Can I come and visit too?

Suz - I'm with you on the make-up, I really tried for about a week after Liam was born, and nothing since. Oh well!

Carmey - Congrats on Jack's sleeping, it's fantastic news.

AFM - I have news too! Liam slept through Friday and Saturday night! Both nights he went down and 10 and woke up at 5:30. Bliss!!!!! We were up at 3:30 this morning, but I really don't mind, it was just great to have a little break.
Today's just whizzed by! DH is home already, and I'm off to teach a yoga class.....and maybe have a coffee in there somewhere too!

Big hugs girls and bubbs! :grouphug:

Omg sesame condolences sent your way. How wonderful that your dad managed to hold on to see Liam.
Great work for Liam sleeping thru for 2 nights.

Jett has been good. We have got his wind handled with infacol and he has started pooing daily now (instead of once every 5 days) since he is having prune juice.

Sorry I have not been on as often as I would like. This being a mum takes up all my time. But I wouldn't change it for anything.

Tilda hope u r feeling better.

Alison yay for your new pram.

Suz loved ure birth story.

Welcome Rachel.

Carmey yay for Jack letting you get lots of sleep too

BS love the pics of Eva she is such a little cutie. Ure place looks great I would love to come visit too.

Ok Jett is calling. Sorry to anyone I missed will try n get back on after this feed and my dinner.

Sesame - Oh I'm so very sorry to hear about your Dad :( It must have been nice for him to see little Liam. My deepest sympathy to you and your family. :comfort: Thats great he's sleeping from 10-5.30!! Thats fantastic!

Alison - Yeah, I'm still wearing preggy stuff :( I went shopping with my mum & sis on Saturday and bought a heap of stuff in the next size up than my pre-preg size thinking that should be heaps. But alas...:(....everything I bought was still too small. I'm not returning them tho, I'm sure I'll lose the weight....eventually....won't I???! Perhaps Amelia is getting more than you think from the boob? But from what the CHN said, Michael seems to be an exception, feeding only 4 times a day at 240-300mls a time. He's a right little piggy!! So Amelia is prolly getting enough, I'm sure she's let you know if she wasn't!

Tilda - I know the feeling when you know and they know they need to sleep but they just fight it. Thats what Michael is like during the day...as soon I position him in my arms to put him down, he starts bawling. Its really hard cos he won't take a dummy when he's all upset like that...so its like...well what do I do then?!! I'm coping by sometimes picking him up if he's really bad, or standing over his bassinet & singing to him or talking to him until he calms down (that seems to work most the time). Oh, and the dummy both the paed and the CHN recommended to us was Happy Baby...they have longer teats on them and fill the mouth more. I was worried about any damage that may cause to their mouth development and the paed said it won't cause any damage/malformations or anything. Michael doesn't seem to take it for long anyway, he spits it out when he's asleep.

BS - oh yes, I saw that pic of the forest too...sooo lovely! I grew up around the Lake District in UK so I'm used to doing that sort of walking...I miss it so much! There just isn't really anywhere like that here...unless you want to "go bush" I guess...but then its too hot....wahwahwah...there goes the whingeing pom in me!

Suz1 - Oooh gosh, do you think it was the immunisations that caused him to be so unsettled? Michael has his on Friday...I dont' want to take him!!! How was your morning tea? Yeah, thats what I keep telling myself...I hope my boobs work for the next bub!

Carmey - great that Jack is sleeping so well at night!! Must be great for you to have a good few hours sleep yourself :)

Lani - It does take up all our time, doesn't it! Esp when they won't sleep during the day!! Tho, I must say, I'd rather that than not sleeping at night...anyday!

And welcome Rachel! This is a fantastic group you have joined, hope you find it as helpful as me :)

AFM - Christening went absolutely perfectly!!!! Michael was a complete angel, he was awake for most the service, just looking around. Didn't cry once, then fell asleep after he'd had the water on his head. Then back at our house (we did have enough food..phew!), he was getting passed from one person to the next and he only got upset a couple of times. He would have been awake for a good 3-4 hours, with so much noise and the rest of it...he's such a little trooper. Then he slept for a bit, I had to wake him for his bath & feed, then he slept till 6.15am!!!!!!!!!!! Tho, I think that was purely just cos he was worn out from the day. But I'm not complaining!! He's been a bit cranky today tho, maybe thats from yesterday I dunno. DH mum was able to get a couple of hours out of the hospital so she came to the service, tho because of the nurse taking her time she only made it 5 mins before the end. But it was great that she got to see her grandson in the gown that she christened her own kids in.

All in all, it was a wonderful day - even if I only ate one sausage roll all day and no drink! :lol: (seriously, I don't think I went to the loo in about 9 hours - thats baaad) Plus, sis has new boyf who is just fantastic...fingers crossed he's the one this time!!!

sesame, I'm just so sorry. I can't begin to imagine how hard this has been for you. You're doing so well and you're so strong. Thank goodness he got to see Liam. Love to you, huni. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

We should plan a Brussels bubs and mums trip...! lol...I think that I am more likely to be in Australia sometime soon (I have a friend marrying a guy from Perth - they have not chosen the location of the wedding, but I know Perth is an option).

Sesame, I am so sorry to hear about your dad. I send my condolences to you and your family. You are right though - it is better not to have him suffer...that is worse than anything. I am glad he got to see Liam!

Suz, did you eat anything different lately? Or maybe it is just a growth spurt - hope it ends soon!

Carmey, my trainer is making me do a lot more cardio at the moment (I think he sees I have a lot to lose) and lots of toning and hypopression (I am not sure if that is the word in english...) abs...I went to the physio who explained that straight crunches and sit ups should not be done ever for women since it puts all the pressur on the vagina and perineal muscles! I didn't know that! In any case he has stopped my abs for a while - until a bit after the third and only lets me do breathing ab excercises, as well as working legs, back (my posture has turned to crap from breast feeding and sleeping in a seated position!) and arms (jiggles!)...so he is focusing on everything but not too much on abs except for the deep breathing - which is harder to do than regular situps - I actually have more ab pain after that than with standard ab excercises...And he tells me to do the eliptical whenever I can and walk and do as much cardio as possible.

It is wierd though - I find the weight sort of staying the same. I think my body is looking better but I have not lost an ounce...It is depressing. But whatever. I might beone of those who loses weight with the weaning.

Lani, glad Jett is doing so well. You are all welcome if you are ever over ;)

AFM, another night like clockwork. Eva seems to have gotten her rythm down to Sleep at 8 wake at 12, 3330 and 630, then awake around 8...not exactly the wonderful hours some of you girls are getting, but I'll take it - I did manage to get into bed at 10pm last night (almost 9!) and feel better this morning - I will keep aiming for the 9pm bedtime...

We have workers in the hosue today finishing up the doors to our showers (thiçs is the last big thing left - we have been using the guest showers since we moved in, so it will be nice getting itno our own bathroom!) - then there are a few little things to finish up and the apt is TOTALLY done!

xoxo to all!

Beany, we posted at the same time! I am glad the christening went so well!!!Eva also hates being passed around - she is a mommy's girl for now! I'll enjoy it while I can! Put up some pics if you have any!

Hi Girls,

Sesame - I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad :hug: That's great that he was around long enough to meet Liam. Liam is a good boy for sleeping so long for you.

Carmey - I loved your birth story! I only got to read it last night. Thanks for the reminder to drink more water, I keep forgetting and I think it does affect my supply. Congrats on Jack's sleep, that's great!

Beany - The Christening sounds like it went well. I inherited the Christening gown that my Grandma Christened my Dad and Uncles in, but we aren't religious so I won't get to use it. However, I bet your Mum was proud to see Michael in your gown, that would have been really special. My family are from the Lakes District too, from Buxton. I've never been there but my Dad and Grandma both told me how beautiful it is. Don't worry, you will get to wear the new clothes as your baby weight starts to drop off.

Lani - I know what you mean! It's incredible how much time babies take! There were days with Craig where I didn't get to shower or eat because if I put him down he would start crying. Not to mention all the extra washing and cleaning that babies generate. You are doing well to post considering that you've had a windy baby to deal with. I'm so glad you've got Jett's tummy troubles sorted now.

Brussels - Me too! I'd love to visit! I think the ab exercises you're doing are what we call 'isometric' exercises, like the plank or where you do half a sit up and hold it. My GP said I still have at least a finger-width gap in my abs so I can't start crunches yet. I've been doing isometric exercises and yoga poses since seeing her which will hopefully close it up. Sounds like your personal trainer is pretty good! Stick with it, I'm sure you'll see results soon. But we do all seem to lose the baby weight differently. I lost weight over Christmas without dieting or exercise, but the other new Mum in my Mum's Group (her bub is 5 months old) said today that she's only lost her baby's weight and hasn't lost the rest (and she was much trimmer and fitter than me).

AFM - Ryan seems to have settled again and both boys were really good today. It looks like it was just the immunisations that initially upset Ryan. But it does appear that when one boy is upset that it upsets the other one, so when Craig was tired and having tantrums yesterday it upset Ryan. It's a vicious cycle that I didn't have with only one kid. DH got back today after spending an extra night away (he was too tired to drive home and decided to play it safe). Morning Tea with our Mother's Group was great and we're getting together again at a different girl's house on Friday.

Hi Sesame - oh no I'm so sorry to hear about your dad, I'm glad he's out of pain now and it like the other girls have said it's wonderful that he held out for Liam to be born, I'm sure he's looking over him and you with such pride. :hug: Yay for Liam having a big sleep, doesn't it make such a difference! I've been told once they start doing that they pretty well stay that way, Amelia had a couple of set backs as well but is has done 4 nights in a row of 8+ hours so here's hoping, she did another 10 hours last night....we're very lucky so far.

Hi Beany - thank god it's not just me, how depressing is this clothes thing. I bought some really nice shorts online and they arrived today, size 12 which I thought would be safe as I usually wear between a 10 and 12 and while they fit I have this massive big muffin top hanging over the top, seriously I nearly vomited when I saw myself in the mirror, I'm hideous! :redface: I was looking at my wedding pics earlier and I just want to look like that again, guess I'll have to get the personal trainer back if I want to do that as that's how I did it then! I need to get cracking and stop eating crap.....I just can't get motivated. Tomorrow I'm visiting a friend who had a bub a few weeks ago, she lives near one of the shopping centres so we're walking the prams to the shops, it's only about 15 mins each way but then we'll walk around the shops so should be good exercise. I'm really glad Michael's christening went well, did you do "Church of England"? That's what we'll be doing I think, DH isn't keen as he's not religious at all but even though I don't go to church or anything either I still want to christen her. Mum is hassling me already.

Hi BS - gee you sound like you're getting a great workout good on you! That's interesting about the abs, I am going to start doing something tomorrow but now I'm wondering if I should. I do some where I lie on my back and raise my legs up and down without touching the ground, it kills but it's great for the tummy muscles. I've never had a six pack or totally flat stomach, well not one I can remember, but I so have to get rid of this flabby tyre, it upsets me so much every time I try clothes on I feel so revolting. :o

Hi Suz - I must be like the girl in your mums group, I lost 8 kgs instantly but have only shifted 1 kg since and still have 6/7 to go, booooooo.

Hi Carmey, Hi Lani!

Time for a cup of tea for me.......I caught up with my pregnancy aqua class friends and their bubs today, had a lovely day.

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Hi Girls,

Brussels - Me too! I'd love to visit! I think the ab exercises you're doing are what we call 'isometric' exercises, like the plank or where you do half a sit up and hold it. My GP said I still have at least a finger-width gap in my abs so I can't start crunches yet. I've been doing isometric exercises and yoga poses since seeing her which will hopefully close it up. Sounds like your personal trainer is pretty good! Stick with it, I'm sure you'll see results soon. But we do all seem to lose the baby weight differently. I lost weight over Christmas without dieting or exercise, but the other new Mum in my Mum's Group (her bub is 5 months old) said today that she's only lost her baby's weight and hasn't lost the rest (and she was much trimmer and fitter than me).

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I'm the same with only having lost the baby's weight :( sucks for me! As for the excercises, that is not it and the physio told me to be very careful not to do those things...be careful beacuse the pressure can cause more opening and also put unneccessary weight on your vaginal and perineal muscles...if you look up "physiotherapy ab exercises" you will find some examples...It is sort of deep breathing then you have to hold the breath and spread the ribs very far with your muscles and usually apply pressure to either your knees, the floor etc..sounds easy but is really VERY VERY hard to do. There is no jerky or strong movement realy just breathing and using your muscles...but it is hard and it hurts!

RE: the mini pill...I read online that it can make some women very hungry and gain weight - I have been feeling hungry lately but am not sure if it is the BF...anyone else feel this way. I also crave sugar where I did not before. I am also breaking out a bit on my face...i am seriously considering going the condom route now...ugh. i hate condoms :( - I would be glad to hear if you guys are hungrier...I am curious to know if it is the pill or me...

Alison and Beany - clothes! Ha! I am in tights and muumuus! Well not muumuus but the baggy stuff I wore while pregnant! :( - I tried on a pair of my baggy prematernity jeans and could not slide them over my fat butt! I refuse to even go into my ****tail dresses :( so depressing!

Alison - you should avoid those ab exercises...try doing side abs and core breathing and resistance rather than the pumping up and down. I think it is safest to maybe see a physio or get a dvd or look up online some good exercises...The physio sacred the crap out of me - she told me "you can do abs if you want, and you'll have a 6 pack but pee in your pants :o" eeeesh!

And if it makes you feel any better, you should be really happy that you still fit into your "size" even with the muffin top! I used to be a size 4 american (I think that is an 8?) and even as small as a size 2 (so 6 i guess?) at the height of my fitness (hello, one year before getting pregs!) and I cannot even fit into my baggiest stretch pants which are a size 10, I am talking can't even slide them over my ass! Kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok enough whining - I am super tired so am complaining...Dh got the brunt of it tonight! He was like 20 minutes late from the gym and I was in a foul mood and my back hurt from carrying the baby since she would not be put down so I was late on her bath and she was grumpy and tired, so I got annoyed and very nicely ignored him for a good half hour - I did not want to yell so I kept it shut then explained to him that I needed him and that he works a lot and it would be nice if he could be here for bath time. He promptly bathed the baby then brought her to me for a feed then burped and put her to bed. I then proceeded to feel bad since he he really is so helpful and hands on and I was *****ing because he was 20 minutes late :(

On the good side I ran and speed walked (when I say speed walked I mean FAST) 5k at my training session today! I was sweaty but I could have gone for more! I was so happy and my trainer gave me a big hug and told me that he is happy to see how motivated I am. I didn't want to tell him I tried on pants earlier that day and toyed with the idea of killing myself! lol

But I am aiming to run a 10K race at the end of may, so I was really happy to see that I might have a chance at making it. It took me an hour to do 5K today, and I usually am able to run a 10K in about an hour, so I need to get back there...that is going to be my long term goal and if I get there, I'll be so so so so so happy and proud of myself. So here's hoping....

I am dead, need a shower and a sleep so am off to bed - I think tonight will be 10pm too...but two nights in a row is already not so bad...I'll get to the 9pm sleeptime one of these days!

bis kisses to everyone!

Morning girls,

How did everyone go last night?

Suz - glad to hear Ryan is settled again. How funny that the boys are in sync - have you heard of that happening before?

Alison - OMG, my muffin top is the worst! I also hate when I sit down and I can feel this tyre of fat all around my waist. My stomach was always super flat and I always had a six-pack. Now I have a 24-pack. Boooooo. However, I am definately going to do more strengthening work, so do things like planks, leg lifts etc rather than sit-ups (thanks Brussel!).

BS - Having that 10km race goal is fantastic. I think it's the quickest way to get to your pre-baby weight. I'm going back to my running group tomorrow night where we do 10km. I have only been doing around 6km at the moment so I'll see how I go. I also have a goal - I want to do the Sydney Half Marathon. Then next summer I'll get back into triathlons (I'm a member of BRATs - Bondi Running and Triathlon club). My old running pace for 21km was 4:40/km. At the moment I am running 5km in 32 minutes. A long way to go!

ATM - Jack slept for 7 hours again. Clever boy! I just have to learn to go to bed when he does. But last night was a double whammy with Desperate Housewives and Brothers & Sisters. Does anyone watch that? I cried and cried!

xx

Hi Girls, it looks like a few of us are quite depressed about our weight! :wall: At least you girls have age on your side, it's so much harder to trim up in your mid 30's....hang on, I'm 37 this year so I guess I'm in my late 30's now! Doubly depressing! :o

BS - a size 6 or 8 here is tiny tiny tiny, I haven't been a size 8 since my early 20's! I'd kill to fit into my size 10's and 12's to be honest!

Carmey - wow, running 5 kms, I don't think I could even walk that far at the moment so you go girl. I think you look slim as so you must think I'm a big heffer ha ha! DH took a pic of me and Amelia on the couch the other day, no way am I posting it, it's a close up of my arm and I have tuck shop lady arms for sure! I think I'll have to join the "Biggest Loser" soon. :o

Today I'm off to see a friend who had a bub a few weeks ago, she lives near a shopping centre so we're going to walk the prams to the shops - it's only about 15 minutes each way but then we'll walk around the shops for a bit so it's good exercise, certainly better than nothing!!!!!! Had another great night, 5th night in a row of Amelia sleeping through, yet again she dropped her last feed, she's done it twice now in the last 5 nights, hope that's ok! So, basically she's sleeping from anywhere around 9.00 pm or 10.00 pm and sleeping through to 6.00 am or 7.00 am. I definitely think the cot is the key as she loves the room, no doubt the formula helps too but I'm still bf'ing before a feed, I figure some is better than none, I'm persevering girls, I'm persevering!

Have a great day everyone!

Hi girls!

Alison - I hear you on the weight, unfortunately. I lost heaps in the first few weeks postpartum (not being able to eat will do that!) but I'm pretty sure I've gained some of that back. I just keep eating junk all the time, need to seriously stop that. And I bloody well need to start exercising again.

BS - go you with the 5kms! I'm with the others who wouldn't even be able to walk that right now! I was actually really fit through most of my pregnancy - it was only at the end that I wasn't able to keep up my exercise. Need to start again!

suz - Glad that Ryan's settled down.

sesame - I'm so sorry to hear about your father :(

beany - Glad that the Christening went well :)

Carmey - Liam's the same with the short feedings generally - and with short sleeps most of the time. He's starting to stretch out his nighttime sleep now, though, which is lovely.

Rachel - hi and welcome :)

And hi to anyone I missed!

AFM - This would be almost funny if I wasn't feeling a bit like death. On a whim, I decided to bake some lactation cookies the other day. Which are absolutely delicious, by the way, and doing absolutely nothing for my weight. I've been eating a few - okay, maybe more than a few ;) I actually didn't think they were doing anything, until last night. I woke up at about 2am super engorged (about what I was when my milk came in). And typically, Liam had a really long sleep last night (about 7 hours, then 3 hours) and didn't wake up for ages to feed. I should have gotten up and pumped, but I kept on thinking that he'd wake up. Thankfully he's had three long feeds this morning (which is unusual in and of itself, since he only feeds for a short period most of the time) and the engorgement has gone down. But I'm pretty sure I have a blocked duct again now. Running a low fever and generally feel a bit off - had to actually pop Liam off in the middle of a feed and shove him at a sleeping DH so I could dash to the loo this morning. I'm feeling better now after some painkillers and a hot shower. I'm trying to megadose with vitamin C to prevent this becoming mastitis and feeding as much as I can, but if it doesn't resolve I'll do the doc.

Lesson here - the lactation cookies work :) Alison, could be worth a shot to try to up your supply?

Liam's been pretty unsettled the last few days. I think it's just a developmental stage - he wants to talk and interact all the time and keeps getting distracted on the boob. He spent so much time yesterday popping off and looking around at everything - it was way cute, but frustrating at the same time. After his huge sleep last night he's asleep again now, so maybe there was a bit of a growth spurt involved as well.

Some interesting reading for anyone with unsettled bubs - I just finished reading The Happiest Baby on the Block, which has some awesome ideas for settling bubs.

Whoops, Liam's awake - have to go and feed him I think :)

Hi Rose - great to hear from you! Oooh recipe please....I hope I can make a wheat free version but would absolutely love to try it!! :D

This is the recipe I used: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ally-work.html

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to make them gluten free :)

Adding to my post from earlier:

I took Liam out today in a sling. Just up to the shops to run a few errands, but I was a bit worried about it, since he's been unsettled lately. And he snuggled into the sling and went to sleep after about 30 seconds. Awww :)

I'm really happy, since it's the first time he's really settled in the sling enough to sleep for a while - usually he'll be happy for a few minutes and then start grizzling. I've been popping him into a sling or wrap every day to get him used to it, and it's working.

And now he's asleep in his bassinet again :)

Hi Girls!

Rose - Slings are the greatest if your bub likes them. It will change your world :) I just walked the kids to the local shops for a loaf of bread, with Ryan in the sling. He slept the whole way. With the cookies, I've gone back to eating porridge again and noticed that I've become engorged again. Thanks for the link, because I checked the thread and it seems that oats are one of the active ingredients in the lactation cookies. Hope the blocked duct clears up soon, apart from that you sound like things are going really well :)

Brussels - Thanks for the tips on the exercises. I used the Hospital Physios and their exercise classes with Craig, but didn't this time and couldn't remember what I was allowed to do. I've been staying away from sit ups and the plank. From memory the physio had me doing something like pelvic tilts until the two halves of my abs closed up again. You have some great goals! You've got me thinking...

Carmey - It doesn't sound like you've lost too much fitness. Hope you survive the whole 10km tomorrow night. Well done again Jack! I'm not managing to keep up with any TV, so I missed both of those :(

Alison - Walking to/from and around the shopping centre is a great way to start exercising again, especially after a c-section. Some things I've read have said that you shouldn't do any heavy exercise such as running until 6 months after having a baby. I guess it really depends on how fit you were before you fell pregnant. Us older girls do seem to have our work cut out for us. I've got only 1kg to go to reach my pre-pregnancy weight, but in the mirror I look like a balloon that's been sitting behind the couch for 6 months! That's great about Amelia's sleeping. Craig dropped a feed around this age and started to sleep longer at night too, so you're right it's probably here to stay.

AFM - The Wii Fit is telling me that I should aim for a BMI of 22. That means I have to lose another 11kgs after getting back to my pre-pregnancy weight (so 12kg all up). I'm not sure about this as a goal, so maybe I'll do a race like Carmey and Brussels?

OK, time to feed Ryan.

Hi everyone! Just a super quick post while M's gorgeous godmother does some laps with M around the garden. Within minutes of M's godmother arriving yesterday, she had her tightly swaddled and asleep in a darker room where she stayed asleep for 3 hours in the middle of the day :o. She's my hero!!!! (And BS can't remember if I told you about my dummy experience, but used it again last night just to settle and took it out before she fell asleep, so it wouldn't startle her if it fell out and that seemed to work). And today has been much better too. I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't try the swaddling again :redface: but I was convinced M wouldn't tolerate it. But its stopping her from startling herself awake. Anyway, I really, really hope I can maintain this improvement. If I could just have one whinge though, my shoulder is hurting bad (I think its related to the back thing I had the other day). Hoping it improves with a bit of rest. But that's so hard to get!! Can't wait for my physio to get back from hols next week!!! Anyway, I'd better go, but all of you stop worrying about your weight. You all look gorgeous in your pics. REALLY!

Sesame - so sorry to hear about your dad. But its wonderful that he got to meet Liam. That will be a very special memory.

Oh thanks Rose, I'm going to try them, I can substitute the flour for gluten free flour, easy! Thanks a bunch!

Hi Suz, Hi Tilda..........my shoulder and neck are killing me too, grrrr.

Sorry no persies, dying for a shower as went for a big walk and am very sweaty!

xx

sesame - I'm so sorry to hear of your dad's passing :comfort:. I hope you find some comfort in that he held on to meet Liam. My thoughts are with you and your family.

Lani - Glad you've managed to get on top of Jett's wind problems.

beany - Good on Michael for coping with all those cuddles after his Christening. Glad you all had a great day.

BS - That's great that Eva's settling into a routine. You must be feeling so much better now that you're able to be active again. Good luck with your goal. I'm sure you'll be managing that 10k run by May.

suz - I don't know what would be worse - both boys being upset at the same time or taking turns so that it seems like you are constantly trying to settle someone :hug: Hopefully you get plenty of good days in between.

Alison - Yay for 9 and 10 hour sleeps! Does Amelia sleep much during the day? Isn't the Strider Plus fantastic? I'm glad I spent the money on it up front, even if I did have to wait until January for it to arrive. Its so easy to use. I've also got it in the kingfisher blue - another thing we have in common lol. Did you enjoy your walk/shopping today?

Carmey - Good on Jack for sleeping so long. Hopefully he keeps it up. I recorded Brothers and Sisters. Thanks for the heads up...it often makes me cry.

Rose_Red - I'd better steer clear of oats then if thats the effect they have. I have too much milk as it is. With the blocked duct, I find that massaging any lumps while Amelia is feeding always helps.

Tilda - Well done on your choice of godmother for Matilda :). Sometimes its easier for someone else to settle bubs though...they don't smell of milk like we do. I hope your shoulder pain eases soon.

rachel - Welcome and congratulations. I'm another of the december belly buddies whose bub was born in November.

Hi to Andi, kanda, willow and anyone I've forgotten.

AFM - Its been a while since I've had a chance to post. I'm usually limited to reading as I don't often have both hands free to type. Amelia will only sleep on me at the moment and its been too hot to put her in the sling. She is currently sound asleep in her pram. The last 3 weeks or so we have had absolutely no routine. Some nights Amelia would catnap and be up all night, others she would sleep and wake at 1-2am and 4-5am for feeds. Saturday and Sunday nights, she went back to feeding at 11pm and then at 5am which she had been doing at 5-6 weeks. Then last night she didn't settle after her 11pm feed. I left her with DH to go to bed and he woke me at 1:45am to feed her again. She still wouldn't settle after her feed. Eventually I took her to bed with me at 3am and she fell asleep sucking on my finger. Imagine my surprise when I next woke at 11am this morning! Boy did my boobs hurt though.

Other good news is that we have finally sorted Amelia's wind problem. It was definitely a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance and block feeding (feeding from one side during a 4 hour period) seems to have worked. Now its just dealing with her reflux. It doesn't seem to affect her everyday but when it does she has this high pitched squeal after feeds. I think thats why she is sleepig so well in her pram at the moment - she lying on a slight incline.

I'm off to get a few things done while I have both hands to myself. I'll try not to be such a stranger.

Hi Hannah - I was just thinking about you earlier today! Oh goodie you got the Kingfisher Blue too, it's gorgeous I love it and everyone is jealous ha ha. I took the pram for a good walk today (was knackered afterwards) and I just love it, it's so easy to push, so easy to put up and down, I was worried about the cost too but it's definitely worth it. Did you have to wait because you got the 3 wheeler? I was going to do that but it wasn't coming into the shops here until the end of the month so I didn't want to wait lol. Amelia catnaps a lot during the day but I don't care if she's doing 10 hour nights! She'll sleep for a while if she's on my lap or I'm holding her, I can only get about 20 or 30 mins if I put her in her cot at the moment - night time is fine so far, hope I haven't jinxed myself! She did sleep while I walked from my friends to the shops and around the shops today for about 2 hours, she loves the new pram, I think she enjoys being higher and being able to see me. I'm glad you're getting on top of Amelia's wind problems, she should start to sleep better once you completely get it sorted. :D I wish we were in the same state, would be cool to meet seeing as we have such similarities hee hee.

AFM - the girl from work who had the baby is still annoying me, she's letting the baby (1 week old) sleep for 6.5 hours at a time, I told her you shouldn't let them go more than 3 hours at that age but she reckons the nurse said it's fine - I don't believe her as we had our babies at the same hospital and they told me that! Also, she is constantly expressing so she can drink.....that just irks me as I struggle to get much milk and would love to have enough to express like that but it wouldn't be so I can get p*ssed. Sorry girls, she's just irritating me, I knew this would happen so will have to try and keep my distance, this comparison thing is going to do my head in otherwise!

Well, off to bed, nighty night my BB friends!
xx

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Other good news is that we have finally sorted Amelia's wind problem. It was definitely a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance and block feeding (feeding from one side during a 4 hour period) seems to have worked. Now its just dealing with her reflux. It doesn't seem to affect her everyday but when it does she has this high pitched squeal after feeds. I think thats why she is sleepig so well in her pram at the moment - she lying on a slight incline.

I'm off to get a few things done while I have both hands to myself. I'll try not to be such a stranger.

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Hannah, I don't have much time to post and reply to everyone, but seriously try the burp technique i mentioned a few posts back! Eva has reflux and had the hindmilk problem. You're doing well feeding from one side completely, but seriously do the burp technique in betwwen breasts, it is a life saver!

Alsion screw that annoying girl! lol Every nurse says something diff - I had nurses in the same hospital tell me to do on demand and some told me to wake every 4 hours max. I chose on demand, so her baby is sleeping that much let them...It is the beginning. She has not understood that there is a quiet before the storm :) Newborns are just little blobs...they have not started crying yet :) lol Don't focus on her negativity. Amelia is gorgeous and easy to handle and you should be bragging to her, but you're not like that so let her keep talking - she'll end up looking stupid at the end. ;)

I have to run guys - got eva bathed and down to bed and have to get a few things done while aiming for a 930 bedtime! I have 45 minutes!!!

xoxo

Alison - I've got the 4-wheeler but I had to wait due to shipping delays. The strider plus is a very new model. It was supposed to be out in November but it didn't end up arriving until mid-January. I'm glad your Amelia likes it. Mine does too. We also bought the car capsule that fits to the pram so I can take her in and out of the car without waking her up. I definitely let you know if I'm ever in Perth...would be cool to catch up.

Keeping your distance from that girl sounds wise. Motherhood is hard enough without having to compete with other mums. Thats what I love about chatting to you girls. We share our experiences and help each other out. No judgement or competition at all. Also, I second what BS said. Wait until her baby is 3 weeks old...thats when the crying will start.

BS - I have tried the burp technique, but we don't often have a problem bringing up the wind. Sometimes her reflux is silent. I'll hear a wet burp but nothing comes out. Then she starts screaming, I think because it burns her throat. Usually she'll settle down if she does manage to vomit. Although I have noticed that her worst days are right before she does a big poo. Last night was a bad one (up from 11 until 4 this morning) and then she did an evacuation poo after her 9am feed. She's been much happier since.

Alison - Try not to let the girl from work irritate you. Everyone is different, there's no rules, and if you try to compare you'll always find something that makes you question your intuition as a mother. Know that you're doing your best, and she's doing hers, and try to keep your distance if you can. :)
I'm sorry to hear about your milk supply. Maybe Rose's engorging lactation tea might help?

Hannah - I was just thinking about you too! It's great to have you back. ;)

Hi everyone else! Sorry if I've missed a few posts, it seems that our babies are giving us more time on the computer these days. :juggling:

AFM - Having a lovely day with the boy. He's been smiley and playing all morning, now sleeping, and hopefully will wake up for a feed soon. Have any of the exclusively BF'd bubs out there gone a long stretch without pooing? I read that it's normal for babies to go up to two weeks. :o Lord help you dealing with the first one after two weeks! Liam does at LEAST 4 a day, and they're beauties! This may be way TMI but it actually makes a Mum kinda proud. Ha ha!

sesame - Liam's gone for 3 days at the most without a poo, I think. And then what a poo it was! I don't worry about it, though, so long as he's breastfed, since it's pretty much impossible for bfed babies to get constipated.

Alison - Glad that you like your new pram! Gosh, you went out for a walk yesterday in the humidity? I went out for about ten minutes and about died from it! Was planning on going out today, but the humidity is worse. Bleh. And just ignore that girl. I *hate* the way some people need to compete. For the record, the ABA recommend what you said - until the baby regains his or her birth weight, they're not supposed to go more than 4 hours between feeds.

Hannah - Glad you've sorted the wind problem :) Do you have her crib/bassinet up on an angle as well? We've found that this really helps Liam.

suz - Yep, it's the oats that work as a galactologue - as does the brewer's yeast. I know a few people who take brewer's yeast capsules to keep their supply up, too.

AFM - Liam's being a booby monster atm - yesterday evening he was cluster feeding for the first time in a while, and then he did the same this morning. He's been chucking a lot, too, so I think he's having issues with figuring out how much he really needs to eat. It doesn't bother me so long as he doesn't complain, though it's kind of icky smelling like milk all the time ;)

Hi Sesame - 4 poos a day far out!!!! Amelia poos pretty much every day, she can go a day without it but she is on formula as well so that's probably why. Even the first few weeks of exclusive BF'ing she only poo'd once or twice a day. Sounds like you have a pooing machine on your hands, typical boy......he'll be reading the paper while he does it soon. :lol:

Hi Rose - I guess that's why they say beer helps too, pity I don't drink beer ha ha. And I'm glad you said that about the ABA, as if a nurse would tell her 6.5 hours between feeds is fine for a 1 week old baby. Oh well, I was trying to help but she doesn't want to know so she can find out for herself. I've decided to ignore it, each to their own as they say! Yeah it was icky walking yesterday, I got so sticky and sweaty. I thought it was cooler today as it's overcast but I haven't been out yet so will find out shortly, I hate it when it's humid!

Well I thought I was going to have my all nighter ruined last night, fed Amelia and put her to bed at 9.00 pm but she woke up at 3.30 am.....I went into her room thinking I'd have to feed her but her eyes were still closed so I just popped her dummy in her mouth, put on her music and she went straight back to sleep until 7.00 am. Now all I need is to stop waking up myself, I'm so used to it now I can't not!!!! :o Amelia has the cutest denim dungarees on today from Pumpkin Patch, got them in the sale, they only had Newborn size left so she'll only probably get a couple of wears out of them. Oh and someone told me yesterday when your baby has lots of bubbles or foaming at the mouth that's a sign of wind, is that true? Amelia has just started bubbling at the mouth the last week but she doesn't seem bothered.

Best go get dressed, it's 10.30 am and I'm still in my jammies ha ha!

Alison - I don't know about the bubbling, but Liam has been super drooly of late :) What music do you play for Amelia?

Do any of the rest of you play music for your bubs and if so, what?

We've tried playing white noise of different kinds for Liam, and recently have been playing Baby Einstein classics.

And a random thing - catch of the day have a cheap box full of baby stuff on today :)

Alison - Just quickly, I read that the drooling and bubble blowing is the start of the "everything in the mouth" phase. Liam's become a dribble-guts too, it's totally normal.

Hello!

On the drooling...Michael started drooling heaps maybe a couple of weeks ago, and bubbling at the mouth too. I'm glad to hear its normal! He's also taken to ramming his fists in his mouth and chewing on his thumb...can't be teething yet, can it?? Anyone else getting that?

Another question - some times (he hasn't done it for a few weeks, but did it today a couple of times) when he's asleep he can start an almighty cry...a really loud one. Just completely out of the blue, sometimes it wakes him up, other times he goes back to sleep (tho not for long). .... (can you believe he did it right now?? What are the odds!!!!). He's mega unsettled today and cranky...I'm really not sure whats wrong with him :( He was a complete angel yesterday, smiling, giggling, awake...just lovely.

Alison - I think our bubs are poo-twins! Mine is usually once a day but can go a day without as well. Must be the formula. Which formula are you using btw?

Ok, that will have to do for now...sorry girls...he's just really unsettle atm. So hard in this sticky weather...having to hold him and pick him up is uncomfortable for both of us I think.

Hannah, I noticed the same with Eva..When she has not pooed in a while she has worse reflux - I guess it comes out of the other end...Eva used to have those little silent burps too and it was never enough but with the technique I use now she lets out huge burps - scares me sometimes and I can feel her whole chest deflate...It is too bad it does not work for Amelia. The poor thing...Do you also make sure not to put her on her back half hour after eating, sleep her on her side...also Rose is right about lifting the pram/bed a bit - I roll a towel inder her matress and stroller pad so she is always up and even have a pillow for her changing table to keep her head elevated - I found this helps a lot....and are you avoiding spicey, and acidic foods (even tomatoes?) and dairy? This is what my osteo told me to do and it worked really well - I ate salad dressing with dairy in it for two days in a row without knowing and she was very gassy again, so did you try to cut out the lactose? I also avoid the peppers, tomatoes, oranges etc...and I find that it helped a lot. She never cries hysterically anymore, just whines a bit and usually I pick her back up and she lets out another burp and it's done. Good luck. I really hope you find a solution...You can also maybe try an osteopath that speciatlized in babies? Ours adjusted her neck and no joke, she was calm the day after and started pooing a lot more often! You are right about this forum - I love that no one judges. I enjoy the suggestions and experiences from everyone else, but whatever my decision is, I am happy that you girls never judge! Aren't we lucky ;)?

Sesame - the osteo told me not to worry unless it is over a week and you're getting 4 a day...Wow, Liam!!!! :o He said that bf babies don't have a lot of waste so don't poo as often sometimes and not to stress unless it has been more than a week - I worried about that since Eva poos every 5 days or so. He explained (the pediatrician too) that as long as it is not hard, they are fine! He also said they can poo as much as after every meal...So don't worry! He explained that breast milk is so easy to digest that it usually comes out pretty easily in most babies...Sounds like you have a champ on your hands and at least you are sure he is getting enough to eat! I wish Eva would give me once a day - she would be more chill!

Rose, sounds like your cutie is pushing up supply :) ! I get you on the milk thing...but better to smell like milk than throw up...Eva seems to have a radar for when I have just put on a new shirt :ROFL: I have all the baby einstein lullaby CD and classics (betthoven, Mozart, Bach, Vivaldi etc...) as well as some Cds a cousin got me where they sing and put her name into all the songs in hebrew...Or I play some pop or Bob Marley (she loves Bob Marley!) or the beatles or even some Beyonce and stuff like that...Basically whatever I listen too...I played baby einstein for her from when I was 4 months along so she calms down with it. I usually play her music during bathtime and during breakfast while she is winding down for her 9am nap...Sundays is always reggae though!! :)

Alsion, I don't think I ever heard that about the wind, but eva also started discovering her drool a few weeks back (I have the senior citizen baby in this thread...hehe). And man, she has found her hands and has started nibbling on her sleeves etc...And she bubbles sometimes at the mouth but it is usually when she plays around with her tongue or makes brrrrrr noises etc...I never heard that can mean gas...I have to look into that!

Beany, Eva has been doing the same for weeks...I keep telling DH to watch out, because soon she will discover that she can put stuff in her mouth! It is starting already...She even refuses the dummy and shoves her fist in her mouth instead! I get the screaming rarely but I think it is nightmares...I have a frined with a baby 3 weeks younger than mine who does it ALL the time. She just cries out but stays asleep. I read that the stimulation from the day can cause that, but it is nothing scary for them just a way to release stress, sort of like having a little nightmare. They get sort of overloaded during the day and release it by crying at night or by crying out in their sleep etc...My friend's baby does it very very often to the point where she can differentiate which cries are sleep cries and which mean she has woken up without even looking at her...

AFM Eva slept a whopper last night!!! I got her bathed and in bed by 8...She ate at 7 before her bath then I kept waiting for her to wake up (was in bed with a book)...by 11 nothing so I fell asleep...the I woke up at 1:00, nothing, 2:30, nothing, 3:00, nothing...she finally woke up for a feed at 5AM :o - I could not believe it! My boobs were like footballs though and she only ate one side (she usually drains two) and a bit from the other, which I gave her to relieve some of the pressure until her morning feed...then diaper change (wasn't even very wet) then back to sleep until 8:30!!!! She had a nice big feed this morning (not like her usualy every hour nibbles) and back to bed at 9:30! She is sleeping soundly now.

When I told DH he got so happy and said, oh I see the light at the end of the tunnel approaching! I won't get to excited just yet. If this goes on for five days straight, I'll start believine it!

It is snowing massively again here today :( stuck at home again. All the buses are not running and the accidents are the only thing being announced on the news...I won't risk going out since I have nothing that important to do - Instead am catchin gup on laundry and organizing the house.

xoxo

Hi BS - ha ha the senior citizen in the thread :rofl: I'm glad you said that because Amelia has just started sucking on her hands too and boy does she drool, her clothes get soaked!! Obviously it's just a stage then, phew, I thought I might have a drooler on my hands, especially after being told she has a small chin by the paed, I thought it might've been that ha ha.

Gotta run, dinner awaits, yummy beef stir fry tonight, nice and healthy - DH is getting the cooking going while I have a shower so best get that in quickly!

Hi Girls,

Ryan's due for a feed so will have to make this quick. Might even have to finish with one hand while I feed him.

Brussels - Ryan had the same night as Eva last night. Your poor boobs, mine were killing me too! He had his last feed then straight to bed around 8pm, then didn't wake me until 5am. Sounds like all our bubs are starting to stretch out the night sleep.

Beany - Yep, that sounds like a nightmare. Craig still does that where he cries in his sleep, but now he yells 'Mummy!' as well and doesn't even wake up. I've even had episodes where Craig will just scream and scream and I can't settle him because he isn't even awake. Ryan hasn't started them yet.

Sesame - Good tip. All the bubs seem to have found their hands and have them in their mouths now. Ryan poos nearly every feed, at least 4 times a day. He pooed on my Mum today :lol:

Rose - Damn, I missed the Catch of the Day! We play whatever we're listening to, plus lots of kids stuff that Craig likes (Wiggles). I also sing and whistle to the kids. I used to play Craig a lullaby CD but he got to the point where I couldn't get him to sleep without it, so I don't have that as part of Ryan's bedtime.

Hannah - Hope you get to post more now that Amelia's reflux is more managable.

AFM - The pram thing is getting me down. I really need something for my toddler and I don't want to give up my pram. Tomorrow I think I'll buy the toddler skateboard and give it a go (if I hate it I'll sell it on eBay). Anyone getting headaches? I think I'm getting dehydrated and am trying to keep my fluids up. Craig has been really hard to get down for a day sleep lately and as a result our evenings usually have a tired tantrum. Today my Mum visited and we took him for a walk to the park. He fell asleep in the living room for 2 hours and is in a much better mood now. We visited my SIL and my niece yesterday. She had a nasty breakup with her partner and lives 30 mins drive away, but doesn't drive. I haven't seen her for ages and it was great to see the little cousins together. Craig is 2 and his cousin Ella is 4, but they're almost the same height!

Better go, I hear some very noisy fist sucking going on.

sesame - Amelia's nappies almost always have a little bit of poo in them. It seems to come out everytime she farts or sneezes. But she has a big one about every 5 days.

Rose - I've been playing some of the Baby Einstein stuff too. Also, some friends gave me a CD of Metallica songs redone as lullabies. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, though.

Alison - Amelia started bubbling at the mouth a couple of weeks ago too. According to Babylove, babies start to produce saliva between 8 and 12 weeks. Its around 15 months when they figure out to swallow it.

beany - I hope Michael is more settled today. Amelia wants to sleep on me all the time but its been too hot to put her in the sling, so I'm not getting much done around the house. Thankfully, today she's been happy to sleep in her swing.

BS - I do keep Amelia up for at least 30 minutes after a feed. She hates sleeping on her side unless she's in bed with me, so we curl up together and I give her my finger to suck on if she's unsettled. I have lifted one end of the bassinet but I think she hates it because she can't see out of it, whereas the pram she can still see whats going on if she wants to (although, she is currently sleeping in her bassinet and has been there for over an hour now). I haven't really been avoiding any foods except cabbage. After a whole week without wind issues, I ate some coleslaw and we had issues again, so cabbage is a definite no-no. Since she isn't really having issues with wind anymore, I haven't bothered cutting out anything else, but I don't eat a lot of spicy food anyway. I don't think Amelia's reflux is wind related. It's to do with the sphincter between the throat and the stomach being immature so not keeping the food in the stomach. It's worse when she's stressed, ie right before a big poo or when it the weather is really hot (which it has been quite a bit lately). Today has been a pretty good day though. Well done Eva for sleeping so well. Hopefully its the beginning of a pattern.

suz - Glad Craig is in a better mood. Funny you mentioned headaches. I used to get tension headaches once every 2-3 weeks that last 2-3 days but they became much less frequent while I was pregnant (maybe the muscle relaxing effect of progesterone?). Yesterday I got my first one since Amelia was born and its a doozy. I've even had a few dizzy spells with it. Am trying to keep my fluids up (its been so hot here the last few days) and just relax today.

AFM - Had a terrible night last night. Amelia has gone back to being a wake at night. I think its because DH gets home at 11:30pm and he and I are chatting about our days while she's having her late feed. Also DH is so excited to see her that he wants to cuddle and chat to her and she's up until 3-4 in the morning. Its a vicious cycle: we're up late, so we sleep late and DH doesn't get cuddle time before he goes to work. We need to hold off chatting until she goes to sleep. Amelia is stretching out her sleeps though, we slept from 4-11 this morning.

I'm also working on getting her into her bassinet again. I love having her sleep with me, but DH is sleeping in the spare room at the moment as we suspect he has sleep apnoea. Also, he has a bad back and he complains that our mattress is too soft, but it doesn't help that he has to be aware of the baby in the bed as well.
She has currently been in her bassinet for the last hour and a half and has only woken up once. I even managed to wrap her which I'd given up on because she used to fight to free herself when she had wind. I also caved and am using a dummy to help her settle for sleep. I didn't want to use one, but it can't be any worse than her relying on me for comfort. Why should I deny her an alternate source?

As for me, I had a breakdown at 2:30 this morning. I felt like such a terrible mum and started questioning whether I should have had Amelia at all. I felt selfish for having her when I don't feel capable of giving her all that she needs. Being everything to another human being is a lot to live up to. Plus, I'm having a hard time with my mum being sick. She spent all of last week in hospital (her third admission already this year) and its really only just hit me that she could die. Up until last week I thought I was being positive, but I think it was denial.