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Sounds like we are all toughing it at the moment. Lovely mummies (sorry for not doing persies) - you are all doing so well! You all are who are keeping me sane at the moment.
Well, in a different light, Fraser is sleeping reasonably well. Since his 4 months vax, he has been having 3-5 diarrhea nappies per day. Have stopped the Constipation formula for obvious reasons, and onto Nan HA Gold....not making the slightest difference! The CHN called the other day and I mentioned it to her and she thinks it's to far from the vax, changing the formula was the right thing to do and that it should have settled by today....but nope. Went to mother's group on Wed and he creamed the whole time. All the other mummies were at first telling me it was just a phase, but when it continued for 3 hours, they were tiring of it. I know we are in a Wonder Week (21 weeks minus 2.5 weeks prem) but surely this isn't right. I'm at my wits end with the constant wailing and gave Panadol and Bonjela (as I think it is is teeth) tonight.
Why is this so hard :(
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Hello lovely ladies!
HB, I really hope his arrives today! I paid a bit extra for express delivery, to try and get it before the weekend. I've heard so many good things about them, for teething and for sleeping! Enjoy your night out :)
Beata, Indy only sleeps for about 45 minutes during his day naps, and he'll often only have two :o I wonder if that's one of the reasons he sleeps so poorly at night, cause I'm sure he's missing out on a lot of the sleep babies this age are meant to be getting! I might have to look into that sleep school... especially as they aren't into CC, I don't think I'm tough enough for that :( I often end up feeding him to sleep as well, as he just won't drop off otherwise! If only babies came with an instruction manual, hey :)
Mia, we gave panadol to Indy the last two nights as he was just so grizzly and wouldn't sleep at all! I don't know if he's starting to teeth but he did finally go to sleep, so if it helps don't feel bad. Hopefully all our babies start to sleep better soon.
Hello everyone else, hope there are some of you out there who are having a better time of it :lol:
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HC - good luck with the teething necklace. Fraser has been wearing his since a few weeks old....not sure if it makes a difference but I'm not willing to risk a night without it. In direct correlation to Fraser's current screaming is the fact that he is a lot more tired and is having longer day sleeps, so maybe that is what is needed for some of the babies that aren't sleeping so well in the night? I know that if we spend a day out and about and Fraser doesn't get his usual sleep, he's awful that night.
Anyway, off to the docs shortly. Would it be bad for me to ask to have his voice box removed? :)
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Hi girls,
HB, thanks heaps hun. Reading your post made me feel a lot better :p I woke up today determined to change a few things. I fed Cam at 4 am, and when I put him back down I put him in a sleeping bag (don't normally do that, I put 4 blankies on him during the night). Don't know if that made a difference but he slept till 9 am. I then proceeded to give him a bottle to implement the sleep/feed/play routine (as opposed to the feed/sleep/play we were doing) and it was a bloody struggle, I managed to give him about 100 ml from 210 ml in the bottle. But I thought, right, if that's all you want that's all you gonna have till the next bottle. We played for about an hour and when he started to whinge (didn't display the usaual tired signs like rubbing his eyes/yawning) I put him in his cot. He grizzled for about 15 minutes, with me replacing his dummy 4 times, and then he fell asleep!!!! That was the first time in months! I did pop him back into his sleeping bag, don't know if that made a difference. He slept for 1 hour, I tried patting him back to sleep but he was fully awake and chatting away to me & giving me big smiles ;). I got him up, tried to give him his bottle (again he only took about 110 ml), I played with him for just over an hour, and when he started to whinge again I put him in his cot and viola! he's asleep again. I just replaced his dummy as he started to wake up and he's asleep again.
I'm glad Arlee is back on track with her sleeps :p. Yay for the high chair!! I've been thinking about one too.
Rooey, I think you should look into the sleep school hun, the haidresser friend swears by it. She only went there as they don't do the CC and it was highly recommended. I got the brouchure off the net today, I will give them a call and book Cam in. It's only a day thing from 8.30 to 3.30. They take your bub off you in the morning and observe him, then they spend the time with you and bub from 12.30 onwards, telling you where the problem areas are and how to change them for the better.
Mia, sorry to hear Frazer has the runs :( I would have thought maybe the constipation formula has something to do with it but if you changed him to the Nan that should have improved the situation within a few days. It's good that you're taking him off to the doc, hope he/she finds the cause and fixes it.
Meercat, yay for little Tiah sleeping to 7 am!!! That's great hun :p
Nat, good on you for deciding to complete your Masters, GL with it hun!
Well hello to everyone else. Today I feel better but something is telling me it's gonna take a while to get Cam to sleep longer during the day. I've decided that it he can do 3 x 1 hour naps during the day, it's OK. I will go to the sleep school though, I'm sure it won't hurt, and it's free!
Hope everyone has a great weekend :p
PS Lil man just woke up, 30 minutes later......I've already patted him 3 times, not having a bar of it. This is going to be a looooooooooong day.
B xxx
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It didn't come today Mia :crying: Indy's usually a lot worse if he hasn't had his normal day as well. Gah what I wouldn't give for a good nights sleep!!! Hope the doc went ok.
Beata, sent off an enquiry for the sleep school. Just took an hour to get him to sleep, how is a baby meant to self-settle when all they do is scream as soon as you put them in the cot?!
Hello all you other lovely ladies!
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Mia I hope Cam went okay at the Doc's and his tummy has settled down :crossfingers:
Beata hope things are going well at your end, sounds like Cam had a few good runs with his naps, if he's only been going 10/15mins at a time, anything longer that that is bonus so well done! Hope you get into the sleep school soon too, how great that it's a free service and doesn't follow CC methods, terrific!
Rooey I hope your beads arrive soon, DD has had them on for 4 days straight and I think she's sleeping better and not as red rosy cheeks, but it could be coincidence? I'm not 100% sure she has been teething so don't know if I should leave them off until she really is to see if they do make a change? DH isn't comfortable with her wearing them around her neck so they end up around her ankle alot, which end up coming off into her sock, so they're prob not as 'on' her skin as they should be anyways. Good luck with yours!
As for us, the day sleeps have calmed alot, getting an hour, sometimes hour and half again, generally 3 times a day. I'm still staying close to her room around the 40min mark to settle her but am having to do this less and less. Every other night she's still seeming wide awake when she wakes for her 1/2am-ish feed, but I put her back in her cot and she just babbles for about an hour then drifts back off. Not so much babbles, but tests her whole vocal range rather loudly, but happily, so I leave her as I figure if I go in and interact she'll get too used to being played with at 1am!
I think maybe the 'wonder week' has passed, woohoo! Things seems to be calming back down, and we've had success with 2 bottles of EBM over the last 2 days. She has refused bottles for weeks but has taken one the last 2 days so I'll try to keep it up to get her used to it, then I might have a bit more freedom :)
Hope you all had a great weekend, and a good week to follow
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Hiya girls!
It'a 6.33 am and I need to sleep!!! lol.
Hope you're all going well and that those with bubs that won't sleep much are not losing their minds!!! I know I do sometimes...;)
Have tried very hard to reverse the sleep/play/feed routine to sleep/feed/play but it's proving very difficult. The only way to feed my little guy it seems is when he is ready for a nap/bed. I have tried getting him to fall sleep on his own, and I have succeeded on two occasions, but most times I have to put him to sleep. I definitely will be booking him into the sleeping school. I thought I'd give it a week or so of trying on my own, but I'm not having much luck. He has dropped one little nap in the late aftrnoon, and as a result he is getting so grumpy by 7-7.30 pm. For the last week or so I've also noticed that when he finally goes down after his evening 7-7.30 bottle, he wakes up 2 to 3 times and cries. I need to re settle him, which usually means rocking him back to sleep. I don't understand why he has begun doing this, he has for a long time just slept through till his dream feed after his evening bottle. He is aslo continuing to wake up 3 to 4 times a night, I usually get up and put his dummy in or just pat him back to sleep. He used to sleep right through.......what is going on???????? :wall::wall::wall:
BTW, what is this teething necklace you girls keep talking about??? Would be very interested.......Cam has had very red cheeks for the last 2 days and is dribbling lots, checked for bumps in his gums but there isn't any yet.....
B xxxx
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Hi everyone,
Sorry I'm not going to be able to do personals because I need to go to the airport. My best friend is coming down from Brisbane today and will be staying with us for a week - Yay :dance:
Anyway, I know how everyone is feeling with the lack of sleep. Last night Angus woke up every 3 hours and wouldn't settle unless I fed him. He is also being particularly difficult with his daytime naps today :wall:
My Big Question: At gymbaroo today, the instructor mentioned an article in this magazine they have. It was called Don't sit me up Until I'm Ready. It was saying that the baby should not be seated upright until they are ready, or their ability to do so will be delayed.
About 6 weeks ago I changed Angus' bassinet to the seat in his pram and he has recently been using his jumparoo and new highchair.
Does this mean I should stop using them and go back to the bassinet attachment??? I am really confused and wondering what everyone else is doing???
Thanks & sorry about the panic!
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hey nat,
i have been sitting Hamish up now for around 3 or so months. he has been wanting to sit up and is so close to being able to do it himself. we changed his car sear around too about 4 weeks ago now coz he was trying to sit up with it in the rear facing position!! little worm!! lol. i think its entirely up to the parent really. each baby is so different. go with what u think.
afm, we got Hamish a jumperoo last friday and he loves it!!! its the ocean wonders one by fisher price. he loves being able to stand and bounce and play with toys at the sametime. its so cute!
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Nat, I think you have to do what you want to do. Fraser has been trying to sit up by himself for about a month now. He's also in his Jumperoo a lot of the time (has been since we got him it about 2.5 months ago!) and screams when we try and lay him down, apart from at bed time. I feel that Fraser feels he is ready to sit up by himself.
Thanks for those who asked after us about our docs appointment. The doctor couldn't find what is wrong, but he agrees there def is something wrong as Fraser shouldn't be squealing all of the time. I took a urine sample (that was fun!) so just waiting on the results of that. It does still seem to be his tummy. He's still having very wet poos about 3 times a day and there are a lot of "rumbles in the jungle" all of the time. Poor bubba - just wish he could tell me what is wrong!
Teresa - how are you going with the car seat turned? I asked our CHN and she said not until Fraser was 8 kg, under any circumstances, and preferably not until 1 year. Fraser too tries to sit up. We bought him a Rainforest Mirror that plays tunes and has flashy lights, and that seems to keep him a bit more occupied. Also, we got some of those Rockabye Lullabies for the car - ABSOLUTELLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!! They are your fave songs done with chimes and it's great! Really calms the car journeys down!
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mia - he loves being able to see where we r going now. our book for our carseat says 9kgs but he is at least 2kg off of being that!!! besides he has fantastic head control and we thought it was time. only thing is when he falls asleep his head sometimes flops forward and we have to push it back gently but within 30secs its back down again. we just keep an eye on him when that happens. must be comfortable coz he doesnt complain lol. i hope you get anwers soon for fraser. it must be so frustrating knowing that something is happening but u dont know what because he cant tell u!
oh Hamish has the worst nappy rash from teething at the moment!. its much better then it was yesterday but still not nice. doesnt help that i get it looking almost good and he goes and poos and makes it worse again :doh:
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Teresa - thanks - it is very frustrating. Sorry, just a quickie - have u tried Nappy Mate Paste for Hamish's botty? It's very good!
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i am using bepanthen, curash powder and sometimes moo goo. i did put about 3 liners in his nappy yesterday and put some sudocream on out of desperation. that helped. so did his bath last night. will bath him again tonight. it is looking better. not supposed to use zinc based creams with the cloth nappies but got so desperate yesterday. DH has gone away and taken my bank card accidently with him so i dont have any money until he gets home on friday so i have to make do with what i have
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Heya mummies! Long time since I posted in here, just realised there was a new thread, lol!
Nat- did the article say what they meant by 'ready', do they mean the baby should be able to sit unsupported before you sit them up? Coz I just bought a Bumbo today and it says that baby can be sat in it as soon as they can hold their head up, and that it actually promotes development...?
I really feel for all you ladies with sleep/nap issues - although I really cannot complain, I did get a taste of what it's like to have a crying unsettled baby at night. For 3 nights and days Blake kept waking and crying hysterically and was really clingy and hardly finishing any of his bottles. I thought I had lost my beautiful placid baby! But I took him to the Dr and turns out he had a sore throat, the poor bubba! As soon as we started on the antibiotics I had my sweet little smiley baby back - phew!!
I'm going to invest in an amber teething necklace when I go to the Pregnancy, Baby and Children's Expo next week. I know of 2 babies IRL that have these and noticed a definite improvement within a day!
Beata - you can get either a necklace or bracelet made of baltic amber beads, and when worn against the skin, the warmth releases a natural painkiller into the bloodstream. Have a google of amberbebe or allaboutamber
As for us, I am happy to say that all is going really well :D On Monday I decided to start putting Blake in his cot for sleeps - up until now he has just been sleeping in his rocker or my lap (i know, very very naughty!!) and his bassinet at nights. I didn't (and still don't) really have a 'plan of attack' i'm just putting him to sleep as i usually do - cuddling/patting/rocking with dummy in and blankie on his face - then placing him in the cot and creeping out the room with my fingers crossed, lol. During the day he's going a max of 1hr before he wakes n cries for me. At night he's sleeping from about 8:30 to 4:30 then i put him in bed with us till around 7. I probably should be re-settling him and putting him back in the cot, but at 4 in the morning i just can't be bothered, lol!
Does anybody else find that their bubs like to have a little blankie over their face to go to sleep? or is mine just odd? hahaha! It must block out any distractions for him or something, but as soon as i put it on his face *bang* eyes close and sleeping begins :) might be something to try if all else fails?
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Morning ladies,
Quickie post today as I'm off to bed soon, soooooo tired today.
Mia, I feel for wee Fraser, give him a cuddle for me! I wonder what is causing his wet pooey nappies? Could it be some intolerance to something?? Weird about the gurgling sounds in the belly, to me it sounds like something is not agreeing in his tummy. I hope the urine sample tells you what could be wrong! Fingers crossed. Oooh, I'll look into the Rockabye for the car, sounds good :)
Nat, can't help you with the 'dont sit me up til I'm ready'.....Cam doesn't even try to sit up. He only pulls his head really forward when I try to get him up with his arms, and when he's had enough in his bouncer. I've got gymbaroo class today so I'll ask.
Teresa, I was going to suggest a fantastic zinc based nappy rash cream which works wonders for Cam, but I guess you cant use it as you use cloth....sorry can't help! Hope Hamish's rash gets better soon.
ReeRee, hello lovely! So nice to hear from you. Glad to hear all is going well with Blake. It's really good that you have something like a blankie over his face to send him to sleep. Cameron has been struggling with his day naps (no probs with night sleep apart from waking a couple of times during the night but he is only looking for his dummy or wants to be burped so is quick going back to sleep), and my SIL has suggested a while back to get him used to holding onto something when he's falling asleep, like a blankie, so that comforts him/sends him to sleep. I have tried putting blankies in his fists as he's gettig sleepy but it doesn't seem to be woring ATM. Lucky you've got something to send Blake to sleepy land! Thanks for the info on the amber necklaces hun, I will definitely look into it...
Alright, I will countinue with persies later. Woke up with a really fuzzy head today. It's dad's b'day today and I havent got him anything, very stressed as he is extremely difficult to buy for. Oh well, at least I know he likes cake! lol
Have a great day everyone and hi to all!
B xxx
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Hi ladies!
So far so good with Indy's teething necklace, his cheeks aren't flushed anymore and he's less grizzly during the day, whee! Still waking a few times a night, but I'm going the Pinky McKay route. He likes falling asleep on the boob, so I'm going to let him, it's so much less stressful for him and us. He usually goes to sleep in his cot after daddy cuddles at night, but when he wakes I end up co-sleeping with him in the spare room. I'm getting better sleep co-sleeping with him, so it's a winner!
Hope you're all well and have happy babies. Mia, I hope Fraser starts to feel better soon, poor bub.
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Hi everyone,
Nat, with regards to the sitting up, I've worked with littlies for many years and have never heard of sitting too early being detrimental to their development. Yes, you should make sure it isn't for extended periods, but short periods of assisted sitting is fine - as far as I know - just my honest opinion :) I'm always mindful not to leave DD sitting with assistance for too long.
Teresa DD loves her jumperoo too, and now her feet can touch the floor so we've taken out the photo album that was helping. She's really starting to manipulate the toys too instead of just bouncing. I guess being able to reach them better has helped! It's fun to watch them enjoy it isn't it?
Mia we use Nappy Mate Paste too, although we've been lucky with very few red bots, but we use it each night for a protective layer before she goes to bed. When do you get the results from Fraser's test?
ReeRee it's wonderful to hear Blake is just cruising along, and his throat is better too. Glad he is sleeping so well also. I went to the expo today, it was pretty chaotic with all the prams but I had a quick wander around (was wearing DD instead of battling it out with a pram!) and was in and out in less than an hour. Very impressed I didn't buy anything, although I really want one of those bubba mats - the contempory one (if you saw them) Hope you have/had a good time.
Beata hope your Dad's birthday went well and the fuzzy head has cleared. I feel like that often ;)
Rooey glad the necklace arrived and is working it's magic, it's nice to go natural when you can.
As for us, I took the plunge and stopped swaddling DD for sleeps. I was all geared up for a week of awful nights and day sleeps and the little monkey has been sleeping right through to 4.30/5am, completely missing the 1/2am feed! Now that I've said it outloud it will probably change, but I'm amazed at the difference! I always thought having her hands out was what woke her, but I think it may have been the battle to have her hands out that was actually waking her.
I am just besotted with her at the moment, she cracks me up all the time and is getting really cheeky. Tummy time is almost non existant because everytime we put her on her tummy she rolls over, and is pretty close to rolling from back to tummy too. Leaps and bounds at the moment!
Hope you all have a wonderful weekend, get lots of sleep and lots of happy bubs :)
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Ree Ree- I put a blankie just over the edge of DS's dummy to stop him from pulling it out and crying when he cant put it back in. We call it Ninja-ing him because he looks like a ninja :) Just make sure Blake can still get plenty of fresh air though :)
